Montana Governor Set to Torpedo Constitutional Carry: Third Time Unlucky

Montana has “permitless” or Constitutional Carry for areas outside of city and town limits, which accounts for more than 99 percent of the state. Bills to extend Constitutional Carry to the entire state have passed the legislature three times.

The first time was in 2011. Democrat Governor Brian Schweitzer vetoed HB 271, and the legislature was not able to override the veto. The second time was in 2015. Democrat Governor Steve Bullock vetoed HB 298. The third time happened on February 15, 2017. The Senate passed HB 262, which will now go to Governor Bullock again.

HB 262 passed the house 60 to 39. There are 59 Republicans and 41 Democrats in the House. The bill passed the Senate 31 to 18. There are 32 Republicans, 17 Democrats, and 1 vacancy in the Senate.

Governor Bullock was re-elected with 50.25 percent of the vote in 2016. The Republican candidate received  46.35 percent and the Libertarian candidate 3.4% of the vote. Here is Governor Bullock’s statement on Second Amendment Rights:

As a lifelong gun owner and as Montana’s former top cop, Steve Bullock is a staunch supporter of our Second Amendment rights and fights for the right of all law-abiding citizens to own and responsibly use guns.

The absence of any mention of self defense, or the right to *bear* arms are obvious “tells” that this politician is not serious about protecting the right to keep and bear arms.

In Montana, a Governor has 10 days to sign a bill, veto it, recommend amendments, or take no action. If he does not veto the bill, it becomes law in 10 days. If the Governor vetoes the bill, the legislature may override the veto with a two thirds vote in both chambers of the legislature. A veto seems likely. It does not appear that there are sufficient votes to override a veto.

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  1. avatar Wood says:

    Start warming up the tar vats, and plucking chickens, Montana.

    1. avatar Desert Ranger says:

      Don’t pluck the chickens. Just use live chickens!

      1. avatar jwm says:

        Kinky, you use the feathers.

        Perverted, you use the whole chicken.

        1. avatar Doktor says:

          You know, it tourist like you guys that are killing constitutional carry because if Montana passes it you would show up and dirty up the place.

          We got rid of our speed limit once and the out of staters flocked here to race killing plenty of people and an astonishing amount of wildlife.

          If we pass CC we’ll be littered with wannabe cowboys just itching for a old west gunfight.

          Just get your permit the old fashioned way and stop your wining.

        2. avatar Shallnot BeInfringed says:

          @Doktor… Really? Bullshit! Don’t blame your state’s problems on the visitors to your state, they’re not all caused by outsiders who “show up and dirty up the place”! Wisconsin has had legal, unregulated open carry for nearly 40 years before Montana was admitted to the Union, so I don’t think you can blame ” killing constitutional carry ” on us…

          “wannabe cowboys”… “old west gunfight”… “Just get your permit the old fashioned way and stop your wining.” Wow dude, you seriously sound like a FUDD – do you even own a gun? I doubt it, with an attitude like yours!

          Besides, the only “wining” (sic) around here is coming from you… would you like some bread and cheese with that whine?

  2. avatar rc says:

    Sorry you got stuck with a Democrat Montana…this happens every time.

    1. avatar No one of consequence says:

      Got stuck with? You mean “elected,” I think. The people chose him, it wasn’t an accident.

      1. avatar Doktor says:

        The republican that ran for governor was an over the top millionaire who pretended to be a Montanan and alienated way to many real Montanans. I mean really, how bad do you have to be to lose an election as a republican last time around. Yes he was that bad!

        1. avatar tmm says:

          I’ll bet that has never happened anywhere else…

  3. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

    Montana is a funny state, the rural areas and even much of the larger towns are fairly conservative. The populace for some reason has a penchant for electing moderate to slightly progressive dems to the governorship and federal senate.

    Governor Bullock is the kind of politician that believes a citizens 2nd A right only extends out into the woods while on the hunt, provided said gun has a wooden stock. Otherwise firearms belong on the mantle or safely locked up in the home. He believes that his constituents have no reason to carry a gun while within city limits.

    1. avatar rc says:

      Sounds like a Fudd…only more so.

      1. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

        Precisely, most moderate democrats(some republicans too) in the western plains states think that progun means traditional hunting and only that.

    2. avatar Missouri Mule says:

      So Ben Carson WAS right. The 2A is by zip code!

  4. avatar Pwrserge says:

    So what you’re saying is that if the governor came down with terminal lead poisoning, open carry would be the law of the land…

    1. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

      An “accidental” grizzly bear attack might be less conspicuous in said state.

      1. avatar Pwrserge says:

        I was thinking tragic helicopter accident. Anybody got the number for Pinochet’s Helicopter Tours?

        1. avatar sagebrushracer says:

          I was thinking a bear, delivered via helicopter would be odd, but fitting.

          I also would bet he does not home carry, so a bear would probably be able to go to town, so to speak.

      2. avatar Pwrserge says:

        Otherwise, there’s always the tendency of communist leaders to have bath time accidents. Like electrocuting themselves in the tub after shooting themselves in the back of the head… 27 times. Sad, really.

        I mean you can’t even take your ice pick into the bath anymore.

        1. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

          Sounds like a treacherous profession to be in, wager it also has a high turnover rate at that.

        2. avatar Pwrserge says:

          Yeah… especially when mustachioed Georgians get involved.

        3. avatar Geoff PR says:

          If it’s a house of somewhat modern construction, code usually specifies electrical outlets in bathrooms are all GFI.

          Staircases, on the other hand, can usually provide the blunt-force trauma necessary for a broken neck or ‘positional asphyxiation’ if the nasty tumble knocks them out…

      3. avatar barnbwt says:

        “You know, something tastes off about my breakfast this morning…Dear God, there’s a BEAR in my oatmeal!!!”

    2. avatar Vhyrus says:

      I like the cut of your jib, sir. Should the need arise, I would heartily invite you to molon the labe with me at any time.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        This is what comes of supporting gay marriage. 🙂

        1. avatar Turd Furgeson says:

          …bingo.

        2. avatar Vhyrus says:

          I can’t be gay. According to the left media I am married to my guns.

        3. avatar Esoteric Inanity says:

          “According to the left media I am married to my guns.”

          Guess that makes any progeny……………..a son of a gun.

  5. avatar ACP_arms says:

    Bullock was born in Missoula, nuff’ said…

    Since when is the state AG the “top cop”? Isn’t the state AG just the states top lawyer not a cop?

    1. avatar Vhyrus says:

      Agreed. Pretty sure the top cop is the chief of the state police.

  6. avatar Mark N. says:

    Either he is not worried about getting re-elected, and/or most Montanans don’t care if they have ConCarry or not.

    1. avatar BigSky2111 says:

      He is termed out and does not care anymore. He at least hasn’t gotten to the point vetoing bills with a branding iron on the capital steps like his predecessor.

  7. avatar Chip in NH says:

    We had constitutional carry vetoed twice in New Hampshire by a Democratic governor.

    We’ve now got a Republican governor. The legislature passed it again. We’re expecting it’ll be signed into law soon (possibly next week).

    Hope Montana can get complete constitutional carry one of these days (and the rest of the country too).

  8. avatar VerendusAudeo says:

    “Constitutional carry” in Montana is nothing but cheap political points. The vast majority of people don’t actually care about carrying, because there’s very little street crime in the cities, and there’s not much ‘public’ in sparsely populated areas.

    1. avatar Kyle says:

      then passing it should be of no consequence whatsoever, whats the harm?

    2. avatar Turd Furgeson says:

      …yea, you’re right. Having those Constitution-free zones make perfect sense.

      Something about the supreme law of the ‘land’ tho……….

  9. avatar Kyle says:

    I thought only the Coastal states were dumb. Montana has a case of the dumb too?

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Just the Governor’s house, it would seem. Can’t imagine what he hopes to accomplish in stonewalling this besides his own political annihilation.

      1. avatar Julius Corrino says:

        There’s also Missoula…

  10. avatar James Ryder says:

    Why can’t Republicans win the Governor’s race in a Red State like Montana? It doesn’t make sense. Trump beat Clinton big league at the top of the ticket.

    1. avatar History Warning says:

      The trouble is Butte, Missoula, Helena and Bozeman control state politics. Butte is a weird town, Very conservative except for they vote anyone pro labor in to office. Missoula votes like Boulder CO (Government can’t be big enough). Bozeman votes whatever way sounds like the best free ride. And Helena votes to keep itself in power….. Montana is an odd place to live, Wonderful but odd.

  11. avatar CV76 says:

    How in the hell did Dumbocrats ever win Montana WTF?! Impeach that smiling bastard.

  12. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

    “The absence of any mention of self defense, or the right to *bear* arms are obvious “tells” that this politician is not serious about protecting the right to keep and bear arms.”

    No, the obvious tells were these: “As a lifelong gun owner and as Montana’s former top cop….”

    Anyone who prefaces anything with their 2A bona fides is about to betray their supposed stance and assault your liberty. Anyone who boasts of their military or police experience is prone to do so, too. They’re just playing on your sense of patriotism, as though you and they are united against the common enemies of civil society. Wrong. Governments are the single greatest threat to civil society, which is why we must remain vigilant, armed, and skeptical of double-talking politicians.

    That goes double for a Democrat in a red state. It’s just pure, obligatory lip service. There is absolutely no valid, practical, philosophical, ethical, moral argument against constitutional carry. Yet, this jackwagon is about to veto it….again….despite the fact that this bill passed with super majorities in both chambers.

  13. avatar Nynemillameetuh says:

    Montana resident here. Public land access and labor are why people vote Democrat in Montana. Bullock ran hard on those two. His Republican rival did not. The Libertarian candidate ran as a spoiler, which is just What They Do.

  14. avatar jimmy james says:

    Does Montana still have drive up/take out liquor by the drink? It did when I went on a hunting expedition some years ago. Gotta love that and a state that allows it. I’d move their in a heart beat if it wouldn’t cost me half of everything I (we) own.

  15. avatar Libertarian says:

    Since 2005 white Brian Schweitzer they vote anti gun people in hightest office 🙁

  16. avatar Robert T Foy says:

    Doktor? Doktor of stupid comments obviously.Montana fire the ass clown come election.

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