California Just Got Even Tougher On Guns the huffingtonpost.com headline proclaims. “The state has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Voters just said they’re not enough,” the strap-line ads, helpfully. Copy that. No wait. Don’t copy that. Highlight and delete Proposition 63 ASAP. Which could actually happen, should a case challenging its provision or provisions reach the Supreme Court — now that the Trump administration will elevate a strict Constitutionalist to the Supremes. Meanwhile, HuffPo wonders where the NRA was in all this:

However, the nation’s most prominent gun lobby ― the National Rifle Association ― largely stayed out of the fray, spending just $95,000 to try to defeat the measure. (In contrast, the NRA has put up almost $4 million to fight a background check measure in Nevada.) That disparity could be credited to California’s demographics ― the state is largely Democratic, and polls indicated the measure was likely to pass. The laws signed by Brown earlier this year also may have discouraged the NRA from spending much on the campaign, as some of the components most objectionable to gun rights activists were already set to go into effect.

As the former roasted chicken magnate Kenny Rogers sang, you got to know when to hold ’em. The NRA had to deploy its limited resources where they could do most good. Despite the Golden State’s goose-stepping march towards civilian disarmament, I reckon the NRA did an excellent job defending gun rights in this election cycle.

Anyway, again, gun rights advocates now have a plan B. It will take years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to implement and there’s no guarantee the Courts will strike down these unconstitutional regulations, but some hope is better than none.

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44 Responses to California Passes Prop 63: Background Checks for Ammo Sales, Mag Ban, Mandatory Stolen Gun Reporting

  1. That’s why we need federal preemption of all gun related laws and a mandatory USC 1983 charge for anybody who attempts to enforce them. With Trump in office with a GOP Congress, we have a chance to pass this. Don’t squander it.

    • we HAVE Federal preemtion; it’s called the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
      If we only had a leader willing to enforce it. We could imprison literally thousands of corrupt Commie-fornia Soviets.
      The language reads: “Shall not be infringed”. That is not unclear.

      • There is nothing specifically assigning that power to the federal government. There are also no personal consequences to would be tyrants. Both need to be passed into law.

        The 2nd amendment needs teeth.

        • The 2nd Amendment has it’s own teeth. It should be a last resort, but not if those running against it are counting on that. Thomas Jefferson was no firebrand or prone to inflammatory rhetoric.

          Extract from Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith
          Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
          the people can not be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong [. . .] will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it’s natural manure. http://tjrs.monticello.org/letter/100

        • USC 1983 provides significant teeth to enforce the Second Amendment. The problem is getting all of the state and federal government executive branches and courts to recognize our natural, unalienable right to keep and bear arms to be an actual right.

        • The 14th Amendment provides the State pre-emption the 2nd Amendment needs. Its just not being applied.

    • Quit calling California the golden state. That time is no more, libs and Democrats have successfully transformed the golden state into what it is today, THE GOLDEN SHOWER STATE.

  2. Pretty much all of this had already passed via Brown earlier this year. If anything, it causes conflicting statutes.

    • Well, if they don’t leave immediately, you can suggest they come visit and bring a U-Haul to take back some ammo.

      It will probably be cheaper for them.

    • Pat Brown, CA Gov (January 5, 1959 – January 2, 1967) essentially did to the CA economy that Obama has done to the national economy. All his socialistic ideas and programs put the state in the red. The voters got sick of it all, and replaced him with Ronald Reagan, CA Gov (January 2, 1967-January 6, 1975) for two terms. During those terms, Reagan, without cutting jobs or raising taxes, put the state into the black.

      The state is not beyond redemption. It only needs the people in control to offend even their own supporters as they strive to turn the state into the utopia envisioned in the 1960s while sitting around in a haze of marijuana smoke and dropping acid before going on to become politicians and professors bent on destroying the nation from within.

      As Abe Lincoln is claimed to have said, “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time, however, you can make a fool of yourself anytime.”

  3. Dear people of California, drive on over to Texas, maybe visit Big Bend, it’s beautiful this time of year. And while you are here, pick up some reasonably priced ammunition, maybe a lot of it.

        • Conservatives, pragmatically speaking, are handcuffed for a variety of reasons from attaining effective political power in California.

          I wish it wasn’t so, but it is.

        • “Visit, not to stay. The conservative Californians don’t need to leave their state, they need to lead it.”

          We have a winner! Damn right!

      • Pretty consistent with the past few years. Harris and Travis county and most surrounding areas were a given, as is the entire southern part of the state. Go home commiefornians.

      • It appears that a lot of Californians have escaped California for Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Nevada and Texas to make those places just like California. It’s only a matter of time before they rule those areas.

        That’s why having a state constitution that protects human rights is just as important as the federal constitution.

  4. Another election and more gun control in California. In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning.

    • Approved gun list shorter

      Background checks for ammo. Next year it will be a 10 day wait.

      Open carry band

      Legal rifle purchased now band

      Now working to band sherriff issue.

      The infringement continues.

  5. Sad that Commiefornia is such a lost cause. Once a red state, now the home of global warming pseudo science loons like Ahnold Schwarzengger, the RINO failure govenator steroid addled fool who drove H1 Hummers, cheated with illegal alien maids, and is now saying he wants to throw “climate change deniers into gas chambers.”

    What is it about Commiefornia that makes everybody crazy?

  6. “I reckon the NRA did an excellent job defending gun rights in this election cycle.” Not in Nevada. The ballot issue for universal background checks passed by about 10,000 votes with Bloomberg’s group spending $11 million dollars and the NRA contributing about $2 million. A little more concerted effort on educating people as to what the bill really was about, because most people who supported it showed they didn’t understand it, and the bill would have failed.

  7. The cure for this insanity is National Reciprocity. Unlike many of the abysmal redefinitions of the interstate commerce clause which have bloated our federal bureaucracy and repressed liberty, national reciprocity is a classic example of why we have a federal government. Those states which unconstitutionally infringe upon the free exercise of keeping and bearing of arms need to be put in their place. National reciprocity will gut their repressive regulations to the core and expose them for the fraud they are. Citizens of those states will rise up in rebellion when they are prevented from carrying and yet citizens of the other 49 states are free to exercise their natural, civil, and Constitutionally protected right while within their repressive state. No other issue is equally paramount to restoration of the true 2nd Amendment rights of the People. No other issue will tear open the liberal wound which festers in this country and allow us to excise the necrosis.

      • IF the Constitution was actually adhered to by all states equally then the 2nd Amendment would have nullified all gun control laws completely. However, since our Constitutional Republic has been distorted and twisted, many states and judicial jurisdictions choose not to fulfill their Constitutional obligations. No other topic more readily exemplifies this condition than the right to keep and bear arms. It is therefore within the power of the Federal Government to correct the inequity and legislate in support of the 2nd Amendment nationwide. And now is the time to git er done.

  8. Have CA [vote to] de-ratify the Constitution, then secede, and we’ll come and take our real estate back.

    Other than that CA better cut it out, and STFU.

  9. California? Fear not folks. “The Big ONE,” will bring real political change. Watched that movie “San Andreas.” Just wait for the wave…………………

  10. Jeez can this earthquake happen already or can we at least quarantine CA so the infected dont leave?

    EDIT: pg2 has the right idea haha.

  11. Will the mandatory stolen weapon requirement include Federal, State and local government employees ? They seem to have a special knack for loosing their weapons.

    • I’d have to go back and look, but doubtful. As stupid as he is Newsome is mart enough to know that LE carve-outs are necessary for anti-gun bills to pass. But the question is probably a bit moot; Brown signed a law that a firearm left in a vehicle must be secured in the trunk or in a lock box (with explicitly no LE carve out). That should slow the smash and grab burglaries.

  12. Prop 63 passed along what were probably pretty much party lines–62% in favor, 38% opposed, which is fairly close to the democrat/republican demographic split.
    The good news about 63 is that it is in large part redundant of the laws passed and signed by the Legislature in the last session, which included the “large capacity” magazine ban that now includes formerly grandfathered in mags purchased prior to 2000. New laws also include an ammo law, requiring that information be recorded by the seller, and requiring all sales to be face to face, but not including the licensing provision of 63. Moreover, discussion seems to indicate that the new State law ammo ban was to go into effect 1/1/17, while 63 doesn’t go into effect for a whole year. Also, the legislature passed bills that purport to amend 63 before it was even passed, and I have little doubt that a legal battle is looming as to which takes precedence, and which may delay implementation of those specific provisions. And to top it all off, the DOJ has neither the computers nor the staff to process 10 million background checks and issue licenses, much less store or analyze the incoming data from sales. 63 recognizes as much, and includes a provision allowing a massive loan to pay for those infrastructure requirements. But since when has the government ever completed a project of this magnitude on budget and on time?

  13. Some enterprising Nevadans should set up shop about two miles from the ca border, fence off a nice big parking lot so plates can’t be read/photographed and sell ammunition to californians at a reasonable mark-up. Might as well be able to make some coin off ca stupidness and do some good for those few good people stuck living in the new state of despair.

    • They’d better start now before the illegals purchase all of those used Scooby vans from the Clinton campaign and set up shop on the interstate.

      Psst… Eh, amigo. ¡Tengo su calibre disponible! ¡Mis municiones estan baratas y frescas! 🙃

  14. This is why people voted for Trump, for all his flaws. They’re not blind. They see that the left will push, and push, and push, and will never stop their war on the ‘other’ culture of America.

    ” now that the Trump administration will elevate a strict Constitutionalist to the Supremes…”

    Well… we’ll see about that.

  15. So, does this mean Californians must maintain proof of purchase and passed background check on all ammo they posses?

    This would prevent them from crossing state lines to by ammo?

    Does this mean possession of ammunition with out proof of lawful purchase is a crime?

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