Mobile Safe Storage

An attendee at Busch Stadium in St Louis was shot and mugged in November of 2015.  Justin Hulsey was inspired. He designed a business to make events safer and more convenient for the public. Because the Stadium is a gun free zone, he developed a way to minimize the time that people will be left unarmed. He created a way for them to safely store their self defense tools during the event they are attending. From fox2now.com:

Hulsey calls it Mobile Safe Storage.

He is outfitting a 22 foot-long step van with armor and security cameras and has hired security guards to surround it when it is parked in public.

Hulsey`s plan is to begin by parking it at Paddy O`s on game days, offering visitors a chance to lock up their guns, or any other valuables they either can’t or don`t want to bring into the stadium or leave in their car.

He believes being able to carry a gun to the stadium will give visitors a better sense of security, while also cutting down on the number of guns getting into the hands of criminals.

‘If we can just stop one firearm from being stolen out of a car and used by a criminal, we succeeded,’ Hulsey said. ‘This isn`t about making millions, it`s about making a difference and we are passionate about it,’ he said.

It is an idea supported by former St. Louis County Police Chief Tim Fitch.

It’s a business that many in the city applaud. Mobile Safe Storage fulfills a need. But the Mayor’s office may be using the zoning laws as a political power tool. The desire seems to be to  prevent the business from operating. From fox2now.com:

Hulsey plans a soft launch on July 15 as the Cardinals start a ten-day home stand. But a spokesperson for the Mayor`s office says the company has no business license and that running a business from Paddy O`s parking lot is not allowed under the bar`s current occupancy permit, and would be, ‘illegal.’

Hulsey however says he has been speaking with the city and believes the way he has set things up with the bar; he has done everything he needs to do to begin doing business legally.

Mobile Safe Storage will charge $10 cash for storage during an event; $15 if a credit card is used.

Mobile Safe Storage is a for profit version of the Knife Check tent set up by Knife Rights at the annual NRA meeting in Louiville this year. Hulsey’s version is a bit more robust and secure, because it involves firearms.

Justin Hulsey had the idea first, but bureaucratic obstacles have been adding delays to the implementation. The potential for this business is considerable. There are stadiums all over the country that would benefit from this service, as well as numerous other events.

In Arizona, most public facilites are required to provide secure check in facilities for private firearms, if they ban possession on the premises. Private venues may ban firearms, and are not required to check them.

Concealed carry permits approach 10 percent of the adult population in some states. All states have some form of concealed carry. No permits are required in 10 states.  Missouri is likely to become the 11th permitless or “Constitutional” carry state in September. If that happens, it can only help the Mobile Safe Storage startup.

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46 Responses to Mobile Gun Checking on Schedule for 15 July Trial Run in St. Louis

  1. A better idea would be to let us carry at stadiums that seat 5000 or more and on buses and the Metro train, Just sayin’

    • Even if it were not illegal to carry in a stadium per state law the MLB, along with NBA, NHL and any other major sporting corporation you can think of are as anti gun as they come. MLB doesn’t even want off duty cops carrying.

  2. Excellent! Now expand to permanent facilities at state lines on major highways so when I travel into NY state I can store my carry in PA, instead of being disarmed for my entire road trip.

    • Tom Gresham of Gun Talk Radio suggests drop you favorite “gat” or “heater” off at the Pennsylvania border gunsmith for a cleaning.

      • Dean, my worry is that if that were to pass, it would require a “lowest common denominator” status for CWFL across the nation, i.e. every jurisdiction goes to “may-issue” just to keep New York & California happy. I’m willing to bet it’d be proposed in tandem with magazine restrictions and so forth.

        “National concealed carry? Sure – but the only guns you can carry are on a roster and hold ten rounds or less…”

        • None of the versions put forward so far have anything like that in them. They say that the states have to honor the permits from other states. Some versions even say that if you can carry in your state of residence, you can carry anywhere in the U.S.

          Why would other states kowtow to New York and California? The are some of the most arrogant and detested politicians nationwide!

    • I would never go behind enemy lines (NY, NJ, MD etc) unarmed. There are resistance fighters located there who are attempting to overthrow the enemy and I wish them luck, but there is no value me to risk such a trip. Anyone wishing me to spend “tourist dollars” need only recognize my weapons carry license from my home state.

  3. Hope it’s better than the mobile safe storage for NY schools where students could check their phones. Got robbed often.

  4. To me, the real question is why anyone attends these events at all. I went to a playoff game for the Bronco’s a few years back and really didn’t have much fun at all. Arriving two hours early you had to wade through a massive crowd of people who were so shitfaced that you could get drunk just by breathing nearby to them.

    As the game progressed the crowd became more and more intoxicated to the point that I’m sure a good 15% of them don’t remember the second half of the game.

    If I wanted to hang out with a bunch of people who are fucked up out of their minds I’d go to Burning Man where at least they don’t arrest the hot chicks for walking around naked… oh and if you choose to, you can do some of the good drugs.

    • Mind you I haven’t been to Burning Man since years 1-3 at Blackrock – last I heard.read, the UC presence is horrid, and a whole bunch of people for merely doing.(and sharing) some drugs.

      Back when i went, you could still pile into the hotsprings. Now it’s just a bunch of web 2.0 paper millionaire 20-somethings in rented $600K VanHools trying to get their “geek cred”. Almost as bad (or maybe worse) than the frat-boy problems of year 1 & 2. Oh well, change is the one constant in the universe, and all that.

      If I had a pile of unallotted cash, I’d still likely show up for a few days anyway. It is a great place for weirdness and innovation. One can meet some seriously interesting creative/inventor types – if you stay away from the drum circles ‘natch…

      • If you’re going to hang out with a bunch of people who are wasted, they might as well be interesting.

        Football fans out of their minds on booze and drugs are not interesting. They’re annoying.

        • The majority of Burning Man aren’t wasted, that’s what makes it interesting – brilliant creative people.

  5. Because a real mass shooter seeking to shoot up lots of people is going to actually defeat the purpose of his mission, see the gun free zone sign, and not bring his guns or check them. Meanwhile, the people who have no intention of hurting anyone are going to follow the law, check their guns, and be ready and defenseless for the mass shooter.

    • Point is to keep people from leaving guns in cars – especially when it’s rather easy to profile what cars have guns in them to steal.

      • You won’t find any gun or political stickers on my car. But I still don’t leave a gun in it. If I can’t carry at my destination, I leave it at home, or don’t go.

        • I have a console vault in my truck, and a borderline lefty vanity license plate. Scraped the NRA sticker and bow hunting stickers off quite some time ago. I’m “in burrito” now. Stealing my gun would take considerable criminal effort.

      • They are all in one vehicle (with lost of cash too) so a very enterprising crew could knock it over and have a great hall.

    • I don’t know if they’ve got metal detectors in STL or Denver, but in Cleveland we’ve got metal detectors at Quicken Loans Arena and at Progressive Field, so it’s a bit hard to get a Glock through there.

  6. So how will the leftists attempt to discredit and demonize this practical and useful solution to a problem of their own creation?

  7. Good idea, until an enterprising robber steals the truck full of guns and valuables. One stop shopping. Why bother to rob multiple people when they can rob just one truck.

      • Indeed robbing this van would be very dangerous. Stopped by the armed security the ATF, State Troopers, etc. would be on them right away. If they were prosecuted my guess is the DOJ and the Trial Judge would prosecute them for any and every federal firearm crime in the book.

    • If it were my truck, I’d have several secret switches and failsafes so that even if you get past the organic security, unless you no exactly what to do you can not: 1: enable the fuel pump 2: start the truck 3: release the parking brake

      Then there’s the matter of the onboard GPS and remote disable.

      Anyone who tries to steal this would be in a world of hurt.

      • I’m sure it would get ME in hot water but the theft-revenge device I would install is something my father used to talk about. Apparently, in the olden days, one would fray the ends of a wire into the seat material and hook the other end to an extra ignition coil wired in tandem to the engine’s main coil. With a flip of a switch, your passenger gets a jolt to the seat of the pants. I’d install it on the driver’s seat with a delay so that the engine has to run for a few seconds before zapping the crap out of the unsuspecting… um, suspect. I’d probably also put in a dead-man switch to cut off the engine/lock the parking brake once they bailed out as well.

  8. I need something like this when we go into Canada next year for a few hours. I have to cross at Sumas, WA and will only be there a few hours. I can’t leave it at a gunshop as they say they need to check it in and since I’m not a Washington state resident I would not be able to retrieve it.

    • I’m sorry. We have I-594. He would need to get a back ground check before you could transfer them to him. Then you would need a back ground check to get them back.

    • I had to go into Canada for 8 hours last year. I just got a room at the Holiday Inn Express on the US side. With business points it was $39 though regular rate was $89. I throw the pistol in the room safe and came back at the end of the day. Sure beat the hassle of gunshop storage or traveling without it for the USA part of the trip.

      • A great idea if they have a hard-key based safe. If it’s one of the electronics that are in 99% of all hotels I’ve ever been in, well you might want to watch this…

  9. The metro trains are “only” misdaemors that can be ignored white ccw but the public bus felony not ……..

    https://www.missouricarry.com/apply-for-permit/carry-area-restrictions/ thats 6 only under illinois off place group realy draconic

    The other good detail in the constitutional carry / dedly fore reform bill that comes law white override in near future looks it lowered this felony to misdaemor.

    https://legiscan.com/MO/bill/SB656/2016

    Not perfect but after override here passed you can ignore the bus prohibition if you can live white misdeamors for the moment

  10. I like this idea also. I hope he succedes in short order. I wonder what kind of insurance he has to have though

  11. OK, so how is this going to work, legally?

    Will they be FFL’s? They’re making money off guns. I’m assuming they’re not storing people’s guns for free, so they’re making money off guns. The ATF wants people making money off guns to be licensed. Even if that isn’t the reason why they’d need to be licensed, what of the case where someone drops off a gun and doesn’t pick it up again (for whatever reason)? In this case, a transfer has taken place.

    OK, so let’s say they’re a FFL. If they’re declared a pawnbroker, then you need to fill out a 4473 to get your gun back. If they try to claim to be a gunsmith (let’s say they offer basic cleaning while your gun is with them), then they wouldn’t have to enter it into their bound book, as long as the owner picks up the piece before COB on the same day. There would also be no 4473.

    Lots of little wrinkles in an idea like this.

  12. No one mentioned the fact that people with various levels of gun handling skills and lack of familiarity of their firearms will be unholstering and holstering them in the presence of a lot of people. Or they have had a bit too much to drink and even though they signed a waiver and can be refused the return of their gun until a later date they get belligerent. Or we have a large crowd who are anxious to leave and tempers flare with guns available. Not to mention the thug who’s milling around watching people get their guns back and decide to follow them and cull the weakest looking ones from the herd and violently attack them in order to obtain a firearm. The list can go on and on when you introduce a large number of firearms being handled in large crowds.

  13. Better idea…Force Police ,Federal, state and local governments–“run by the people, for the people…” To obey the US constitutional Bill of Rights—Period. Or Else !

  14. Mayor Slay needs to get in gear if he wants those of us from the County to continue visiting his shit hole of a city. There are already numerous places where I don’t feel comfortable walking or driving even if I’m armed. The area around Busch is relatively safe if you pay $25+ to park in one of the lots right next to the stadium. Unfortunately, you don’t have to go far to leave that relative safety. The Cards draw over 3.5 million fans per season, and we have the right to protect ourselves before and after the games. The beleaguered STLPD certainly can’t do it for us.

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