BREAKING: Dallas Cop Shooting “Person of Interest” May Not Be the Shooter.

(courtesy wfaa.com)

Dallas police are looking for a man in a camouflage shirt who was photographed marching in tonight’s Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas before the shooting started. The latest reports indicate that ten police officers where hit and four killed by at least two shooters. Early media reports in fluid situations like this are frequently incorrect. In fact . . .

UPDATE:

11:14pm CMT: Jed Hannay reports “CBS DFW is reporting the man named as the suspect is not the shooter. His name is Mark Hughes according to his brother Cory Hughes. Cory is saying his brother did have a gun downtown but he did not shoot it and he is not the shooter. “He did have a firearm. He did have an AR-15 with him. I told him to go give that gun to the police so there would be no question about the shooting. People, trust me, there is no way it is him!”

In addition, the individual pictured was photographed while marching with the crowd. The latest reports indicate that the shooting came from at least two elevated positions above the crowd.

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  1. avatar strych9 says:

    Yeah, the guy I’m watching get interviewed on Fox basically just justified the shooting of police.

  2. avatar formerwaterwalker says:

    Yeah-with a shite eating grin on his smirking face…

  3. avatar BlinkyPeteReturns says:

    In b4 “Inside Job!!!”

    Seriously though… It’s bizarre that he ostensibly arrived to kill police officers, but walked around at a tense, us vs. them event with a scary black gun. No tinfoil hattery here; just wondering if this is the right guy.

    1. avatar Klaus says:

      Right or not, he sure is their convenient guy.

  4. avatar Jp says:

    Prayers to their family members. And speedy recovery to the wounded.
    Shits getting out of control.
    And obamas reaction: chirp chirp….

    1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

      Obama’s reaction will be quite jubilation as he and his media lackeys will spin this into reasons for restricting our rights and this time they may get everything that they want.

    2. avatar Stuki Moi says:

      It’s a local Dallas matter. Obama, and the Feds in general, stick their desperate-for-coverage face into too much as it is. Grassy Knoll type shootings may well be of federal concern, but this is not.

  5. avatar Taylor TX says:

    Damn quite a bit of news this week that gets the feels going to keep everyone not thinking about the Paintsuit Server Dog and Pony Show.

    Jeez I need to work more this week for a couple more cases and lowers, its about to get real.

  6. avatar tjlarson2k says:

    Check out the FOX News headline:
    DPD Chief: Rifles used to injure and kill officers

    Apparently disembodied rifles are to blame for the shootings…. ridiculous.

    1. avatar Russ in AK says:

      What exactly is wrong with that headline? Were rifles not used? Do you have evidence to support the theory that they used a different weapon?

      “Rifles used to shoot officers” is both grammatically correct, and factual. The rifles were used by the shooters to shoot the officers.

      Nobody said anything about “disembodied rifles”.

      1. avatar tjlarson2k says:

        Probably because it’s the same old anti-gun narrative and vilification of firearms. Rifles are evil weapons that are associated with killing the police.

        Who cares what weapon they used? How about this for a headline:

        “11 Police officers in Dallas were shot by multiple attackers during a social justice protest for the recent Louisiana and Minnesota events.”

        1. avatar Russ in AK says:

          “Rifles used to injure and kill officers” isn’t vilifying firearms at all. It’s simply a statement of fact. Granted, it’s an awkward headline, and that detail would be better suited for the body of the news report, but it’s not vilifying anything.

          The story under the headline may well vilify guns and gun owners, but the title is innocuous on its own.

        2. avatar tjlarson2k says:

          Here is the difference between FOX anti-gun rhetoric and NBCDFW reporting: No where on the NBCDFW site or the video is a rifle mentioned…

          http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

        3. avatar Danny Griffin says:

          So the snipers used a slingshot? I think sniper implies gun. Not sure what you are getting at.

  7. avatar stevor says:

    this guy needs to be found so he can be invited to the White House so o’bama can have a “beer conference” and set him straight (and if he’s not straight, o’bama will invite him back for a “date”)

  8. avatar Danny Griffin says:

    This guy might very well NOT be the shooter. OC as protest.

    1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

      He’s either not one of the shooters or he’s really, really stupid. I’ll give it 50-50 odds either way.

      1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

        Not the shooter.

        1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          Jury’s still out one whether or not he’s stupid. Not sure a BLM (black lives matter, not bureau of land management) protest is a wise place to open carry.

        2. avatar Daniel hammond says:

          They arrested the guy marching must have some evidence to tie him in

        3. avatar Danny Griffin says:

          Nope. He was there exercising his 2A rights with an unloaded AR15 that hadn’t been fired. He was down on the street with his brother and friends when the shooting started. At the urging of his brother, he gave his rifle to a cop while the shooting was still going on.

  9. avatar pwrserge says:

    This is my shocked face. Just goes to show you that we know who the most racist and violent people in America are. Hint: not conservatives.

    I seem to remember showing some math predicting this just a while ago.

    Told you so.

    1. avatar RealityCheck says:

      Racism much?

      As of now there is zero info on any suspect’s race, religion, or political affiliation.

      This guy was just an open carrier in the wrong place at the wrong time. You know, the kind of guy you would normally be vigorously defending.

      1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

        This guy was just an open carrier in the wrong place at the wrong time.

        Probably. When he found out the police were looking for him, he went to the police to be questioned. I doubt this guy is the shooter. Probably just OCing a rifle in protest.

        1. avatar troutbum5 says:

          Probably not the best place to OC in protest. Or to be anywhere near at all.

      2. avatar DJ says:

        Oooor he was part of the plan.

        A diversion is always useful.

      3. avatar Pwrserge says:

        Yeah, I don’t need reports to connect the dots about police officers getting shot at a Thug Lives Matter riot.

        1. avatar RealityCheck says:

          As in “I don’t need facts, I already know what I believe! ”

          So what happens if the shooters turn out to be white? Or Hispanic? Or ISIS? Just pointing out that at this point we don’t actually KNOW anything about any of the shooters.

        2. avatar Pwrserge says:

          Yeah… White shooters at a Thug Lives Matter riot? I’ll take bullshit theories for 1000 Alex…

          In the meantime. $100 on Afrocentric Black Supremacists with $50 side bets on ISIS sympathizes and Bernie supporters.

      4. avatar HP says:

        Congrats, you’ve managed to extrapolate a racial component from a statement where no mention of race was made. Who’s the racist?

    2. avatar More Dead Soldiers says:

      As I recall, your “math” was utter garbage and you got really mad when I pointed out the flaws. 🙂

      1. avatar Pwrserge says:

        … You still don’t know what inductive reasoning is, do you commie?

        1. avatar More Dead Soldiers says:

          Yes, and the use of flawed premises to reach conclusions is the greatest pitfall of using inductive reasoning. Or in your case, concocted premises.

          Please stop embarrassing yourself. 🙂

        2. avatar Pwrserge says:

          Ah, but you must produce evidence that they are flawed. Shouting loudly and kicking the floor crying “you racis” is not an argument. Show data that murderers are significantly more conservative than the general population in the US or go home you sub-human commie scum.

        3. avatar More Dead Soldiers says:

          But I did produce evidence that your premises are garbage. It is not my fault you are too ignorant to recognize your own logical holes. Specifically, your obviously biased sample groups and assumptions regarding uniformity that were demonstrably false. Pretty basic stuff to tear down your logical house (hut?) of cards.

          “Show data that murderers are significantly more conservative than the general population”

          Now now, I already called out this strawman the last time you used it, have a little dignity and don’t try to same lame stunt another time. 🙂

          By the way nobody is calling you “racis”, I’m just saying you are terrible at math, logic and dialectic.

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          Somebody banhammer this assclown. I’m tired of his bullshit clogging up my feed.

        5. avatar More Dead Soldiers says:

          Awww, you are mad someone is calling you out. AWWWWWWW. Your tears are delicious to me. 🙂

          Pro-tip: if you don’t want to get called out for being bad at math and logic, don’t post stupid stuff masquerading as math and logic.

        6. avatar Charles R. Miller says:

          There it is. “Commie.” Tells you a lot about the mentality of these people.

  10. avatar Taylor TX says:

    Possibility the guy in the picture was just OCing
    Update 11:14: CBSDFW is reporting the man is the suspect is not the shooter. His name is Mark Hewes accorging to his brother Cory Hughes. Cory is saying his brother did have a gun downtown but he did not shot it and he is not the shooter. “He did have a firearm. He did have an AR-15 with him. I told him to go give that gun to the police so there would be no question about the shooting. People, trust me, there is no way it is him!”

    1. avatar BlinkyPeteReturns says:

      I really hope that’s the case. They apparently have one shooter cornered now.

  11. avatar RealityCheck says:

    Initial reports are usually wrong, as we all know. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy wasn’t involved at all. Reports say that there were two snipers, they have one cornered, and he is wearing bulletproof tactical gear.

    Does it make sense that tac’d-up snipers are working with a guy in a camo t-shirt and a big grin?

    Time will tell, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out to be a case of an open-carry protester in the wrong place at the wrong time. At least, that seems possible. Hopefully citizen video will emerge that proves his involvement or lack thereof.

  12. avatar Russ in AK says:

    Nobody should be surprised by this. After all the warrantless shootings by police in recent years, the public is justifiably fed up. And when you can’t effect change through public speaking and protesting, petitions, legislation or litigation, that doesn’t leave very many options.

    I’m not anti-cop, by any stretch of the imagination. But you absolutely cannot shoot somebody if they are not posing a credible, imminent threat to your life or to the life of a third party. It doesn’t matter who they are, or what they did, and it doesn’t matter if you’re wearing a badge or not.

  13. avatar Rikoshay says:

    The bad thing about killing a cockroach is the 5000 that show up for its funeral.

    1. avatar More Dead Soldiers says:

      Yeah those cop funerals are always a big dog-and-pony show.

  14. avatar Chris says:

    Baaaaad time to open carry a rifle just to make a point. Twitter feed says he was not involved and handed his rifle over to PD after the shooting began, FWIW

    1. avatar Stuki Moi says:

      Bad or ballsy. Either way, above my pay grade.

    2. avatar Chris says:

      OC “suspect” turned himself in.

    3. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      “Baaaaad time to open carry a rifle just to make a point. “

      And why exactly?

      This guy just did more for “out gun rights” than probably 90+% of those who post here…especially the anti-OC crowd.

      HE WAS NOT THE SHOOTER!

      What better message could there be to crack the narrative…about OC, about MSR’s, about guns in general?

      Here was a guy OC-ing as a statement of protest, and HE WAS NOT THE BAD GUY.

      Meanwhile, the REAL bad guys laid in ambush from tactically superior positions…no “openness” to it.

      It’s sickening how deeply the “OMG! I see a GUN…GUNZ BAD” meme runs through US society.

  15. avatar DJ says:

    So… the deception plan worked?

    I’d be somewhat suspicious.

    Seems like these guys were tactically proficient. It would make sense to have a decoy to focus attention while the direct action team escapes and evades. YMMV.

  16. avatar John Z Martinez says:

    Local CBS 11 interviewed Mark Hughes who was interviewed, tested, cleared and released. His rifle was retained and he was cuffed again when he asked for his possessions back, which included his rifle.

    Hughes brother protested that they were cleared and needed their firearms for protection. Couldn’t agree more.

    1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

      He was cuffed again after being released? Why?!

      1. avatar John in Ohio says:

        It reads like illegal detainment as punishment.

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      They illegally detained him a second time because he asked for his property back? I’ve seen situations where they threatened that and other harassment but not where they actually carried through. Have a link?

      1. avatar John Z Martinez says:

        Sorry, no link. Was live interview by local CBS affiliate channel 11.

  17. avatar Chris says:

    So it turns out this is what a responsible gun owner looks like. The guy turns is weapon over when asked by officials in an active shooter situation, leaves the scene as ordered, and still turns himself over for questioning right afterwards. I honestly don’t know how to tell the good guys from the bad when people OC’ing.

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      ” I honestly don’t know how to tell the good guys from the bad when people OC’ing.”

      Oh, bullshit.

      If you can’t tell the difference between the actions you just described and someone SHOOTING AT YOU, you have a serious problem.

      1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

        Unless your last statement was sarcasm and I missed it the first time, in which case…my statement applies to those that say that kind of junk in seriousness.

  18. avatar Zach says:

    I see a man legally openly carrying an AR. Problem?

  19. avatar LHW says:

    Wrong place. Wrong time.

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      Faulty logic.

      There’s no way to predict “wrong place, wrong time.” No way.

      If you are going to argue there is a ‘wrong place, wrong time’ to carry a weapon, the only “solution” is to NEVER carry, not even at home.

      That’s what the anti’s want.

      Don’t fuel their position by buying into their tautology.

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