Blue Force Gear Quote of the Day: The Trace On UT Cop’s Negligent Discharge

 

(courtesy khan.com)

“A police officer at the University of Texas at Austin accidentally shot himself yesterday. Cory Morrison was standing outside a patrol car, talking to fellow officers, when his handgun went off and sent a bullet into his right leg, a local TV station reports. Police did not say whether Morrison was handling the weapon at the time. Officers are trained to keep a round in the chamber when their guns are holstered.” – News item from The Trace email blast.

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  1. avatar olivehead says:

    Finally, we’ve found one of those much talked about but rarely seen guns that “just go off.”

    1. avatar SelousX says:

      If it was a Taurus Millennium, I might just believe it!
      ?

    2. avatar Vv ind says:

      They will now be pulling all service weapons and moding triggers to a 18.75lb pull to prevent guns from just going off randomly.

      1. avatar Omer Baker says:

        A tactical pry bar will then be issued to officers to facilitate firing their duty weapons.

    3. avatar Robert Duchien says:

      The Holster did it.
      Sudden Holster Initiated Triggering

      1. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

        I know you are hoping but the mostly likely cause of the ND is that his uniform shirt was slightly untucked and got a piece it stuck in the trigger guard disabling those three internal safeties that make Glock a safe action pistol.

        1. avatar Mark N. says:

          Yup, I’ll go with Glock also as my first guess.Odds on favorite given how many police departments purchase them, probably due to Glock’s aggressive marketing and low low every day prices!

  2. avatar Pwrserge says:

    You can almost hear the swishing sounds as they try to sweep this one under the rug after realizing it doesn’t fit their narrative.

  3. avatar JoshFormerlyinGA says:

    “Officials didn’t say if he was handling the gun at the time it went off” I’ll bet there is a 99.999% chance he was handling or otherwise manipulating the gun when he shot himself.

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      “Cory Morrison was standing outside a patrol car, talking to fellow officers,…”

      In other words, just showing off for his friends when he had a ND…

      1. avatar kenneth says:

        Exactly!
        +1

    2. avatar BDub says:

      My guess is he pulled it out to show it off, then tried to re-holster with his booger-hook still in the fun-ring!

  4. avatar BillC says:

    It “proof” that UT’s upcoming policy for campus carry about not keeping a round in the chamber is “true”.

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      The timing and location certainly are, shall we say, peculiar to say the least.

      I would like to know the exact nature of the leg wound. Did the bullet graze his leg and create no significant pain/damage? If so, I could only wonder if Officer Trigger Happy intentionally inflicted a grazing wound on himself to bolster the currently proposed University of Texas policy that requires concealed carriers keep their chambers empty on their handguns.

      Seriously, what are the odds that a cop just happens to shoot himself at a time when the University is possibly prepping for a court battle over empty chambers?

      1. avatar Jeff says:

        Reported to be a serious but not life threatening in-and-out wound to the right leg.

        1. avatar Mark N. says:

          I’d guess that that is pretty hard to do with a holstered weapon. I’ve heard of butt cheeks, but that was an IWB holster. so this story has an odor of tuna about it.

      2. avatar BDub says:

        Hanlon would like a word – “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”

      3. avatar DaveL says:

        I could only wonder if Officer Trigger Happy intentionally inflicted a grazing wound on himself to bolster the currently proposed University of Texas policy

        I certainly hope the campus police isn’t employing anybody anywhere near that level of crazy. If they were, I think it would be pretty obvious, since we’d be talking underwear-on-your-head, foaming-at-the-mouth, squirrel-raping crazy.

    2. avatar Cliff H says:

      “Officers are trained to keep a round in the chamber when their guns are holstered.”

      So apparently he un-holstered his “gun” at which time the training no longer applied and he removed the round from the chamber – loudly.

  5. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    Good grief.

  6. avatar Shire-man says:

    Highly trained.

    1. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      Top. Men.

      1. avatar Scott in IA says:

        Who?

        1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

          TOP. MEN.

  7. avatar Rusty Chains says:

    In other news Colt owner John Smith reports his pistol held up the local 7-11 last night while he and his wife were at Bible study.

  8. avatar Chief Master says:

    Why is everything italicized?

    1. avatar Mr. 308 says:

      Definite slant in the tone of this article.

    2. avatar Mighty Mo says:

      Mines not italicized…….straighten your head up.

    3. avatar peirsonb says:

      Hold alt while pressing F4. It’ll go away.

      1. avatar tmm says:

        Hold “alt” and press “F4”? OK, I don’t see what g…

        …lost signal…

        1. avatar Calvin says:

          NO CARRIER

          Now get off my lawn.

  9. avatar Matt in Oklahoma says:

    same thing happened when I was in college once too, pulled it out and it just went off while I was talking LOL

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      …then she pointed at it, laughed, put her clothes back on and left. And you were never able to get a date with any of her friends after that…

      1. avatar Matt in Oklahoma says:

        bhahahahahahaha You Don’t Know Me LOL

        1. avatar FedUp says:

          I’d recently read a comment that pointed out NDs are NDs, and while your penis might accidentally discharge, your gun never does.

          Then I saw your ‘it just went off’ joke, and…

  10. avatar Jim says:

    I never have understood how lying about an ND wasn’t treated as a Giglio violation…some agencys are just looking for a reason to Giglio officers just to get rid of people they don’t like, but they don’t seem to mind “adjusting the narrative” over a blatantly obvious lie about a really clear mechanical function. It’s not like anyone (who isn’t intentionally ignorant) is confused about what makes the gun go off, or any room for “interpretation.”

    I mean I can see an agency cutting a guy they like some slack, because it happens all the time. So, say you lied about being drunk in your off-duty shooting, and they never bothered to test you, so there is no proof you were drunk, so they sweep it under the rug. But if you lied about pulling the trigger during your ND, and you got shot, the simple fact the gun went off is proof SOMEONE pulled the trigger. It not like they can say “there wasn’t really any evidence of that” and pretend it didn’t happen…the gun went off, there’s only one way for that to happen.

    How the hell does a officer, or in this case the whole agency, have any credibility (or ability to testify) after they lied about simple mechanical physics in the friggin’ press release?

    1. avatar Mr. 308 says:

      a) it makes the department look bad and b) the public seems to take everything presented to them by the media as unquestionable truth.

      1. avatar Jim says:

        The public and the media doesn’t have anything to do with Giglio issues…I’m talking about the courts. What prosecutor in his right mind (oxymoron, I know) would take a case from an officer, much less an agency that is on the public record as demonstrable liars. Its just amusing how wrapped around the axle they get about cops shooting armed criminals, but don’t seem to have a problem with the agency itself publically lying, then relying on the same agency for legal testimony.

        It’s not like any of this is actually surprising…

        1. avatar Mr. 308 says:

          My bad, I misread you.. and you are absolutely right.

  11. avatar FedUp says:

    If the holster has the expected powder burns, I’d say the admonition about booger hooks and bang switches goes double for that moment when you’re shoving the pistol into the holster.

    Remember Marshal Idiot at the El Paso federal courthouse?
    Was disarmed upon entry, had to check his gun. Retrieved his sidearm to leave, grasped it in the fedcop normal way with finger on the trigger, shot himself in the butt while reholstering (superficial, missed the brain), and gave a BP officer a disabling foot wound.

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/law-enforcement-military-homeland-security-discussion/55281-negligent-discharge-courthouse-deputy-u-s-marshal-merged.html

    1. avatar Bob15 says:

      Finger, trigger

      Fewer letters to type, one less syllable to pronounce, less likely to make one sound like a cretin, doesn’t reflect poorly on people of the gun.

      Try it.

      1. avatar BDub says:

        Not as much fun or funny. Over-ruled!

  12. avatar kenneth says:

    Is the tired old empire getting too easy to even bother making fun of it anymore? Or is it just me?????

  13. avatar jwtaylor says:

    Red flashing horn blowing bullshit alert meter here. They department originally reported he was checking to see if the weapon was loaded at the time, as was reported in several local outlets. Now they don’t know if he was handling it?
    Please, TheTrace, tell me how he was checking to see if it was loaded while not handling it.

    1. avatar Jim says:

      How else is “the narrative” supposed to inform the ignorant masses that guns are evil, sentient talismans, that will cause destruction and mayhem all by themselves?

    2. avatar Jeff says:

      All they had to do was do a GSR test to see if his hand was on the gun when it went off by itself…. ‘Cept they don’t want any evidence.

      1. avatar jwtaylor says:

        That’s just it, the campus police already released that his hands were on the weapon. They already said he was checking to see if it was loaded. (The answer was yes.)

  14. avatar Broadsides says:

    Unsubstantiated reports indicate that some of these types of accidental discharges are often followed immediately by other types of accidental discharges…some urine related.

  15. avatar Achmed says:

    When did they transition to Nambus?

    Anyway, there goes high-integrity, infallible law enforcement again. And I say that as a former fed. Golly, if this can happen to a cop how can we let joe citizen have those icky gun thingies???

  16. avatar Stinkeye says:

    “Police did not say whether Morrison was handling the weapon at the time.”

    They didn’t have to say it, because he was, period. No other way for it to fire.

    Or did his “whistle lanyard” pop off a round, completely and totally outside of his control? Quick, somebody get Farnam in here to do an after-action report that completely absolves the cop of any responsibility for his own stupidity…

  17. avatar Chris says:

    Police did not say whether the sun rose that day, either…

  18. avatar dph says:

    Those damn sentient guns, they are going to hook up with SkyNet soon.

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      Laugh all you want. I, for one, will welcome our robot overlords.

  19. avatar wright says:

    Surprised they didn’t say he should be issued 1 cartridge to be kept in his pocket like the late great Deputy Fife. Oh wait, he was a cop so it doesn’t fit the narrative.

  20. avatar Jimbo says:

    Off course they’ll write the article in a way to disassociate the human interaction with the trigger that made it ‘go off’.

    If they can get enough people to think that guns just ‘go off’ and repeat it enough so that people don’t realize that the trigger was pulled, then that would be a win in their book.

    1. avatar Mr. 308 says:

      ^^^ This.

      Isn’t it interesting how coordinated all these reports are, everyone in the industry seems to have gotten the very same memo, and orders to comply.

      In this short little report there are 4 references to ‘goes off’ or accident not including the headline that says ‘goes off’. 9 Paragraphs and 240 words and they get this lie in there 5 times.

      And not even the slightest hint that this may have been negligence instead of a freak accident.

      It’s almost like the media and the police (the state) are all colluding together. That can’t possibly be.

    2. avatar BDub says:

      I just had to explain that this weekend….to an Iraq War veteran no less, during a conversation regarding this exact subject – the round in chamber policy at UT.

      After accepting that these NDs are in fact the result of people putzing around with their guns and pulling the trigger, he calmly said, “well that wouldn’t happen if there wasn’t a round in the chamber.”

      It took me a while to recover from that, but I replied, “anyone careless enough to pull the trigger on a loaded weapon by accident, is careless enough not to know if they do or don’t have a round in the chamber. A policy mandating an empty chamber just lays the ground work for misplaced confidence that the gun is empty, likely increasing the chance that careless people pull said trigger and find out the hard way.”

  21. avatar FormerWaterWalker says:

    Wow guys-no one mentioned GLOCK brand GLOCKS…

  22. “Officials didn’t say if he was handling the gun at the time it went off.”

    Officials, you say? Not the Police Commissioner or DPS or anyone specific then? Just “officials?”

    They didn’t say if he was handling the gun? Was the question posed to these “officials” or did they simply not mention it?

    Great investigative reporting!

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      When PDs have Public Information Officers (in other words, tax paid public relations spinmeisters), what reporter needs to investigate anything? (it’s much easier to just let the PIO write the story for you)

  23. avatar Paul53 says:

    Experienced Police Officer seeks full time employment as far from Texas as possible.

  24. avatar wright says:

    If Barney Fife had a son.

  25. avatar Tal says:

    It went off because he pulled the trigger.

    That’s the entire story right there.

  26. avatar Ralph says:

    The gun is black and the cop made a furtive movement. Turnabout is fair play.

  27. avatar Wilson says:

    I won’t pretend to know what happened here, but I will point out that a cheap, damaged or defective holster can protrude into the trigger guard and discharge a gun while it’s being reholstered.

    Check your gear! If it’s worn out or seems anything less than 100% legit, replace!

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