Petition to Reject Mississippi HB 786

Nearly two weeks ago, Ariel Draper started a petition to push Governor Phillip Bryant to veto Mississippi House Bill 786.  The goal of the petition was to get 1,000 signatures in support. The petition had three signatures when the bill was signed into law today. (Presumably, one of those was the petition’s author.) The petition used rather incendiary language. . .

Mississippi House Bill 786 introduces legislation that would grant the following :

To provide that killing a person while acting as a participant of a church or place of worship security team is JUSTIFIABLE homicide ; and for related purposes.

Literally making a “Church Police” legal, allowing a church’s “security team” to take it upon themselves to decide whether others live or die, and have legal protection!

The reality is quite a bit less dramatic. The bill enables churches to appoint volunteers for church security who must be appointed in writing, and receive relevant training. The law gives them the same legal protections that private security guards enjoy. That’s considerably different than granting a church security team the power to execute people at will.

If you parse the petition carefully, you may note that everyone in society “take(s) it upon themselves to decide whether others live or die, and have legal protection!” That is precisely what the use of deadly force in justifiable defense of self and others is. From the bill:

A church or place of worship may establish a security program that meets the requirements of subsection (2)(b) of this section, and a member of the security program shall be immune from civil liability for any action taken by a member of the security program if the action in question occurs during the reasonable exercise of and within the course and scope of the member’s official duties as a member of the security program for the church or place of worship.

The bill contained two other major changes. It made Mississippi a “Constitutional” or permitless carry state by adding belt holsters, sheaths, and shoulder holsters to already generous methods of concealed carry that do not require a permit. From HB 786, as it was sent to Governor Bryant:

(24) * * *  A license * * * under this section is not required for a loaded or unloaded pistol or revolver to be carried upon the person in a sheath, belt holster or shoulder holster or in a purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or fully enclosed case if the person is not engaged in criminal activity other than a misdemeanor traffic offense, is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a pistol or revolver under state or federal law, and is not in a location prohibited under subsection (13) of this section.

The other major effect of the bill is to provide a mechanism to prevent state resources from being used to enforce any future federal regulation or executive order that infringes on the Second Amendment or the Mississippi Constitution of 1890:

SECTION 5. No federal executive order, agency order, law not enrolled by the United States Congress and signed by the President of the United States, rule, regulation or administrative interpretation of a law or statute issued, enacted or promulgated after July 1, 2016, that violates the United States Constitution or the Mississippi Constitution of 1890 shall be enforced or ordered to be enforced by any official, agent or employee of this state or a political subdivision thereof.

Mississippi now joins nine other “Constitutional” carry states to make 10 total. That is 20 percent of all the states in the Union.

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14 Responses to Petition to Stop Mississippi Church Protection Act and Constitutional Carry Garnered Three Signatures

  1. Apparently Bloomberg failed to get his minions to mobilize nationwide. Not that it would have made any difference in Mississippi, that sort of liberal steamrolling only works in states with Liberal populations and governments like Connecticut and California. Don’t even ask me what happened in Colorado, because that was a crying shame.

    • ” that sort of liberal steamrolling only works in states with Liberal populations and governments like Connecticut and California.”

      It kinda happened here, too.

      And, your CO example: CO is “Little California” these days. It was not REALLY a surprise the control they got there. But, the State is not completely gone as they were able to pull it back a bit with the recalls.

      Moral: Nowhere is immune. The Proggies reach their vile tendrils everywhere. Sometimes the stick more than one would expect.

      • Agree with you there. We have to fight the Libs from the high population counties up near DC and Maryland all the time. This is a never ending battle, and you can never let your guard down.

  2. Living in CA, a fellow Marine, whom I had not seen in 30 years, invited me to his home in Mississippi. Walked in and was gob-smacked. Beautiful house, dead animals on walls, rack of rifles, big yard, massive detached two story garage, and two bulldogs. All at half the cost of my home. Not ready to pull stakes and head east, but nice to know my clan is in the promise land.

  3. Thanks, Dean, for being the only writer I’ve read who actually got this thing right.

    The bill doesn’t not create a church police force, establish training guidelines, or legalize church carry. It only provides for churches to appoint members with enhanced concealed carry permits (a permit with a safety instructor certification that the holder has completed safety training and can carry in tropically restricted area like schools, churches, and the like) as official security in order to afford them castle doctrine protections on case a shooting becomes necessary.

    And the amendment that provides de facto constitutional carry and protection against federal intrusions is icing on a delicious cake.

  4. Epic fail libtard!

    I live in MS and do appreciate this law. However, I do have some criticism of it. First people with enhanced concealed carry permits could already carry in churches, so why make it a law spelling it out?

    Also, are pocket and other holsters (that are not listed) accepted as constitutional carry? I feel like they should have not have been specific about the carry method.

    • I think they were trying to include everything with the term “Sheath.” I mean, there are so many varieties of holsters these days that to list them all would be impossible.

  5. The other two signatories were dead voters in Chicago.

    Anyway, I still don’t understand what a “sheath” is. Did they mean to say scabbard or holster, but didn’t because they couldn’t spell it?

  6. Ten states that recognize the RKABA as it was intended. New Mexico is good, One can carry OC without a permit, an unloaded firearm concealed with a mag in a pocket or belt, and Shall Issue of CC of a loaded firearm .

    But we don’t have Constitutional Carry nor CC on School or university grounds. Darn it!! I need to work more on that.

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