TTAG Daily Digest 4.4.16

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Lefties like to say that government’s just another word for the things we choose to do together. It’s also another word for inefficiency, corruption, sloth, incompetence, and waste. Which of those options explains why our men in the field are still using faulty EOTech sights, four months after the .gov settled a lawsuit against the company for covering up the problems? We’ll leave that up to you. Meanwhile . . .

9 years for teen who stole stepdad’s guns – That should learn ’em.

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Suspects accused of injuring people with BB guns in San Leandro – If these knuckleheads had tried this in a more gun friendly state, they may be enjoying the use of a few new orifices today.

Two Coast Guard Academy Cadets earn title of national champion in pistol – That’s right…the Coast Guard.

"Krystal Muhammad with a shotgun and other members of the New Black Panther Party stand guard across the Muhammad Mosque in Dallas, Saturday, April 2, 2016." Jae S. Lee/The Dallas Morning News)

White Idiots With Guns Meet Black Panthers With Guns, Retreat And Declare Perfect Victory – “You’d think that with so much in common — love of guns and dressing like pretend soldiers — the opposing militias would get along better in the great big brotherhood of armed loons.”

Manchester weapons haul (courtesy manchestereveningnews.co.uk)

Pictured: The deadly weapons taken off the streets of Manchester as gun amnesty is launched – The UK ain’t got game. Just sayin’ . . .

comments

  1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    “white idiots with guns meet black panthers with guns, retreat declare perfect victory”

    I have a better title for this article after reading it… “White idiots with guns meet black idiots with guns in the ghetto, nothing is accomplished, nothing is gained – mediocracy holds sway.”

    See those skills. I should be an editor.

    1. avatar dh34 says:

      As soon I realized the link was to Wonkette, I closed the tab. No need to lose a brain cell reading that. Wonkette is the journalistic version of a nocturnal emission.

      1. avatar Benny the Jew says:

        A nocturnal emission from the colon, you mean.

      2. avatar neiowa says:

        Same is true for any link to the WashPost (NY TImes South) and their EOTech newsflash.

  2. avatar pod says:

    Teen gun thief – good, throw the book at him. If you are going to have laws concerning crime with firearms, or the theft thereof, enforce them.

    Whites vs blacks with guns – show up somewhere with firearms in a group, don’t be surprised if another group shows up to counter you. In a state with permissive gun laws, don’t assume everyone else is unarmed.

    Manchester gun amnesty – Unless those are Airsoft – holy s–t on the G36 and the SCAR.

    1. avatar Red in CO says:

      Oh, the G36 is airsoft. Shitty airsoft too, the kind of cheap plastic spring gun you buy at Walmart for $20. As for the SCAR, I can’t say for sure without seeing more of it, but it looks like an airsoft gun to me (I love the crap out of airsoft and know the gear pretty damn well, so yeah, I do feel reasonably confident in those assertions).

      1. avatar Steven says:

        Look at the barrel diameter on that SCAR. I reckon you’re right about the airsoft.

        1. avatar sagebrushracer says:

          yeah, the types of folks that actually have a g36 in England are not likely to turn em in.

        2. avatar pod says:

          The photos are low-res and hard to tell but good point and good eye. I should know by now that in Commonwealth countries, Airsoft is a big deal and half the time when there’s an amnesty, people ditch their Airsoft replicas, including the blue Beretta.

    2. avatar Nick says:

      Some of the rifles up top are air guns. The one with the large tube below the barrel (similar to a shotgun tube mag) is a PCP air gun. The other looks like a break barrel. PCP guns are usually pretty expensive (both to buy and shoot, compared to other air guns) and well made, surprising to see one in a buy back.

  3. avatar Scrubula says:

    I get that eotech lied about the extreme temperature POI shifting. Nothing excuses that, but we’re not fighting at -40 degrees or 122 degrees. Switching out the sights costs money and time, and I don’t think military brass are known for being efficient.

    1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      “Nothing excuses that, but we’re not fighting at -40 degrees or 122 degrees.”

      Except that whole Iraq thing.

    2. avatar Nick says:

      I’ll give you the -40F bit, but 122F is quite believable. Think about it.

      Black body optic in direct sunlight in the Iraqi desert. I find it difficult to believe that the absorbed heat from both the ambient temperature and absorbed sunlight wouldn’t elevate it above thaT.

    3. avatar PPGMD says:

      The trunk of a car can easily get to 120+ degrees in the summer here in the south.

      And this is just one of a long list of Eotech issues. Any new government order requires the ordering agency to sign a disclosure of performance limitations. The list is pretty long, some of them are fixed, but one or two aren’t.

    4. avatar TravisP says:

      Could it be thats the sight those soldiers still want?

  4. avatar Hello World says:

    I’m sorry, but the Coast Guard is really the unsung hero of the all the branches. They put their lives on the line, act as defense, save lives and much more, yet they’re treated as a joke for some odd reason. And yes, they do need guns.

    1. avatar The Other David says:

      And they have some pretty bad-ass helo-borne snipers to take out drug-running boat engines.

      Among other targets of opportunity in today’s world…

    2. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Did a counter-narco deployment with some Coasties, nothing bad to say about them. They knew their stuff.

    3. avatar Dave Lewis says:

      Coast Guard guys and gals do lots of old school “boat and deck” naval stuff- including boarding hostile vessels. They don’t shoot Harpoon or Tomahawk missiles very often. Their combat is at the 5.56 and 12 gauge and 9mm end of things – it’s often up close and very personal.

      1. avatar Red in CO says:

        Indeed. A sizable chunk of Coast Guard operations involves drug interdiction, storming enemy vessels (and of course, drug runners don’t exactly use yachts, so the fights are close and brutal).

    4. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      I never really got that. Between drug interdiction, search and rescue, and disaster response, the Coast Guard more than has its hands full with real work. On a per person basis, the CG might even see more serious action than the other service branches.

  5. avatar WRH says:

    “Lefties like to say that government’s…”

    ‘Lefties’ are left-handed people. ‘Leftists’ are people that lean towards the left side of the political spectrum. The two terms are not interchangeable. I find this far more annoying than the ‘clip/magazine’ thing; at least they both hold ammo.

    1. avatar Prudikal says:

      I get the clip/mag thing confused a lot. just to be sure a clip is what the m1 garand uses right?

      1. avatar Nick says:

        A clip is any piece of metal that holds the shells, but they are not completely enclosed. They are generally loading aides.

        Yes, a clip is what the M1 Garand uses, however there are also stripper clips that have several rounds secured only by the rim and when used, the cartridges are pushed off the clip into the magazine.

        By contrast, a magazine is a mechanical device that feeds ammunition into the action. Ammunition is typically completely guarded (except the opening) against solid contaminants (though not always, the Chauchat was a notable example)

        Many old military guns that have fixed magazines usually had some method of loading using a stripper clip. Russians accomplished this with a notch in the bolt/action for the clip.

        1. avatar Prudikal says:

          ok, thank you!

      2. avatar Nagurski says:

        Generally speaking, a magazine has a spring and a clip doesn’t. If you stick to that, you will be right 99% of the time.

      3. avatar daveR says:

        Clips feed magazines.

        Magazines feed the gun.

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          That doesn’t work with a Garand.

        2. avatar Katy says:

          My understanding is that the Garand has an internal magazine. Therefore, your en bloc clip is feeding the magazine, which is then feeding the weapon. The big difference between the en bloc and a stripper is that the en bloc provides the feed lips for the magazine, essentially acting as both clip and magazine.

        3. avatar Sixpack70 says:

          Actually it does, the clip is inserted into an internal Magazine on the M1.

    2. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      In common usage, “lefties” more often refers to left-handed people and “leftists” more often refers to left leaning politically orientated people. However, “lefty” and “lefties” are acceptable to use in either context. They’re interchangeable as matter of language, though personal preferences will vary.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Both are slang, use as you wish.

  6. avatar Chip says:

    Great accomplishments for winning individual events at the NRA Intercollegiate Pistol Championships! Check out the men’s individual champion taken as an aggregate score of the three main events…USMA Cadet Jeff Schanz. USMA team also took second place overall as well.

  7. avatar Frank Masotti says:

    Um what is wrong with Iron sights? Soldiers in WW1 trough the first gulf war used them, including the spec ops operators.

    1. avatar Nick says:

      Nothing is wrong with them. They still work.

      That said, in WWII the US was using Sherman tanks, Jeeps, and carrying 30-06 rifles. The fact is, technology advances and the military would be foolish not to use the best available.

      Holographic optics allow for both eye open aiming and much faster target acquisition. In the modern fighting style these are huge advantages over iron sights. The change in fighting style has also dictated the choice of weapon, transitioning from the club sized, but powerful 30-06 rifles to more compact low recoil rifles with burst fire.

    2. avatar Mark Horning says:

      Nothing, and if you have co-witnessed irons you would know immediately if the sight had drifted.

      The problem with the EoTech goes way back, back to the begging of the company. Hopefully L-3 can sue the former owners for fraud to recoup some of what they lost in this mess.

  8. avatar col potter says:

    So, it is the fault of the left that our soldiers are still using faulty sights. I would just about bet libs are not making that decision but even if right wingers are wrong it is the libs fault. Got it.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      UUuuhhhh, they’re Libs! *EVERYTHING* is their fault. Was, is, shall always be.

      1. avatar int19h says:

        Indeed! If not for them damn libs formenting trouble, this here would still be a peaceful and orderly possession of the Crown. Troublesome bunch, these libs.

  9. avatar FormerWaterWalker says:

    Ummm…I just wasted a minute of my life reading about black and white panthers. That’s what passes for “journalism”. Protesting a mosque-get a life…

  10. avatar Anonymous says:

    A broomhandle Mauser – nice piece of history. I hope they didn’t destroy it.

    1. avatar John P. says:

      That might not be the Mauser you want. I’m not sure the Broomhandle is real, but the HSc looks like it is.

    2. avatar Ddub says:

      I like the solid plastic blue Beretta fs under the scar, super scary.

  11. avatar Rhett says:

    A marine told me the electronic dot sights were giving them confident head shots at 100 yards. He said the brass was really interested in why all these confirmed kills had these head shots and the dog sights proved why.

  12. avatar Docduracoat says:

    Red dots have been the biggest advance in aiming during my lifetime.
    Put a combat grade red dot on an AK and it is now a modern rifle with a greatly increased hit probability at increased range.
    Put one on an AR type and you increase hit probability, can engage multiple targets faster and still out range the AK.
    My Eotechs work fine here in Florida, I just hate the way the reticle looks “fuzzy” to those of us with the common eye problem called astigmatism.
    Still holds zero in and out of the car in summer.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Mine never worked right, even after one repair, I was VERY pleased to be able to return it after owning for 7 years, and getting my refund! Now using magnifier behind a red dot.

    2. avatar Mike R says:

      I have an Eotech in the desert and never had a problem. The lawsuit was because of the claims regarding temperature not because they don’t work. Any electronic device subjected to extreme temperature variation could become wonky. If the SOCOM soldiers believed they were at risk they would dump them immediately but WAPO wants to trash the DOD and evil corporate beneficiaries.

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