Incendiary Images of the Day: Josh Renville Dontcha Know Edition

Josh Renville (courtesy startribune.com)

High school student Josh Renville (left) wanted his scowling (a.k.a.. bad ass) yearbook picture to include his AR-15. As reported by startribune.com, Fargo North High School Principal Andy Dahlen had not one, not two, but three reasons why that wasn’t going to happen: “Weapons are banned on school property. Another rule prohibits publishing materials in school-sponsored media that violates federal or state law or promotes violence, terrorism or other illegal activity. A third policy forbids clothing that promotes weapons.” Josh’s old man was none too pleased . . .

Charles Renville put up a Facebook “pose free or die” page. Yes, well, at the end of the proverbial day, Josh (right) capitulated. Through the magic of Photoshop, Josh has replaced his AR with a bald eagle (Talons much? Ouch!).

You might think this kind political correctness in our schools is creating a nation of wimps (young Mr. Renville excepted, of course), but I couldn’t possibly comment. Still, Josh’s trigger discipline is a lesson to us all.

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  1. avatar Viro says:

    In twenty years, looking at either version is going to make him cringe.

    1. avatar -Peter says:

      Yes, but that’s any high school senior photo.

    2. avatar Shire-man says:

      Not necessarily. I know plenty of folks in their 40’s, 50’s and 60’s who are locked into the high school mentality. I suppose high school must be when they peaked to stunt the rest of their development.

      1. avatar Hank says:

        You’re being generous. I swear half the population never socially matured being the third grade playground.

      2. avatar Pg2 says:

        Sadly, right on. Facebook seems to attract people trapped in high school as well.

      3. avatar OODAloop says:

        Just think of all the Millennial guys that will look back at their cool high school senior photo with that kick-ass, well groomed man bun 20 years from now. It’s the current generations version of a mullet. Business up front, old librarian in the rear…

  2. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

    those talons have got to hurt….

    1. avatar Angryaz says:

      Those are the talons of tyranny, and he don’t give a #$&#
      Pretty sad about my weak sauce high school pics now…..

  3. avatar Geoff PR says:

    That’s one big-assed bird.

    I’ll say one thing about that FakeBook page of his, he doesn’t have to worry about cutting the grass for *that* yard…

  4. avatar Owen says:

    I wonder if he could make a “yearbook correction” copy of the original in a paste-over size and distribute them to all his classmates.

    1. avatar Curtis in IL says:

      Genius!

    2. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Oh, that would be tempting!

    3. avatar NineShooter says:

      Owen, I’m fairly close to the student’s area, and I’ll make an effort to get this idea to him and his family, and promote it, as well. I’m not a rich man, but I’ll forgo a couple of boxes of ammo to help make this happen.

      Good thinking, and thanks for posting!

  5. avatar Omer Baker says:

    Think how you would look at a teenager in Europe peacocking with the EU flag prominently displayed. Or perhaps 30 years ago with the USSR red and yellow? That’s how I feel about the stars and stripes. I have way too much in my life now worry about propagandizing for the empire.

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      I’m proud to be in pictures with the flag, and hope that I live up to the ideals it represents. I have a lot more photos of me with the Texas flag than the Stars and Stripes, but the few I have of me at a young age I am particularly proud of.
      https://www.flickr.com/photos/voodoomedic/4284506265/

    2. avatar BillC says:

      Thanks to the awesomeness that is the United States of America, you don’t have to wrap yourself in her flag, pledge to it, or salute it and what it represents. Go about on your way, hating everything.

    3. avatar On the can says:

      If it wasn’t for that flag you despise so much there would be no EU flag, but there would definitely be a USSR flag in place of it continent wide.

      1. avatar Hannibal says:

        And if it wasn’t for the USSR flag there would have been a Nazi flag over all of Europe. So?

      2. avatar Art out West says:

        No, my friend. It was the men that stood, protected, fought, bled, and died for our freedom. I love our flag, but realize that it has always been about the people and not the fabric.

    4. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Cool story, bro.

  6. avatar Big Jim says:

    That’s just typical Of high school That was originally set up As a socialist Type environment. The creator Of our educational system in this country Based his creation on a socialist type education system which is obvious when you see all the Crazy restrictions In schools against your constitutional rights. Your constitutional rights do not end when you walk on to school property, no matter what that principle may think.

    1. avatar Jeremy in AL says:

      Home school.
      Don’t let the government raise your kids.

      1. avatar Pg2 says:

        Don’t let the government make medical choices for you or your kids either.

      2. avatar Ethan says:

        +10
        Have your kids indoctrinated with the amoral, pacifist socialism doctrine? No thanks, think I’ll pass.

        Not to mention anyone with an ounce of drive and two brain cells can teach any curriculum better than the “methods” devised in public school bureaucracy.

  7. avatar Chris says:

    When I was in Jrotc in high school,2001. We would march around with m14 often. Our in school armory had a dozen m1 garands and maybe 2 dozen m14. The had plugged barrels but still. I was lucky enough to be taught marksmanship by a retired marine sgtmaj, we even had an indoor rifle range for our air rifles.

    1. avatar Chip in Florida says:

      When I was in JROTC (1984) we still had a rifle range in our school.

      Granted they were pellet guns, but you could still put an eye out if you weren’t careful.

    2. avatar Defens says:

      When I was in high school, we would often bring our chipped flint hand axes and ornately carved mastodon femurs to the cave.

      1. avatar DAN V says:

        Farago, implement a +1 button for this man! Or switch to Discuss, so I can log in with a connected account.

      2. avatar Bourbon guzzler says:

        When I was in High School, we just brought reefer to school.

  8. avatar Robert says:

    Unless that gun is stolen I can’t think of what laws he broke. The kid is not promoting violence. His clothing has no weapon on it. Sure, weapons aren’t allowed on school property but that is a DEPICTION of a weapon, not an actual weapon on school property.

    If the school goes nuts over seeing a picture of a gun then the administrators there have some state flags that will need redacting in books. Several state flags or state seals have images of guns or spears on them. The North Dakota state seal has a bow and arrows on it.

    1. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      The North Dakota flag depicts an eagle clutching arrows in its talon, too. North Fargo H.S.’s own mascot appears to be some kind of ancient warrior, sporting a metal battle helmet.

      This is all on top of the district’s armed SRO program. Seems as though the district’s real quarrel isn’t with depictions of weapons, per se, but rather depictions that run counter to the “State holding a monopoly on the use of force” theme.

      Hey, teachers, leave them kids alone!

      1. avatar AR says:

        Can I get my pic with the flag of Mozambique in the background? You know, the place where “two to the heart, one to the head” was invented?

  9. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

    I remember in high school in the late 1980s kids would wear t-shirts that read “Kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out” or “Join the Army, travel to exotic lands, meet interesting people, and kill them”, and nobody said anything. ROTC kids would haul their targets around campus and brag about their BB gun marksmanship.

    That was in addition to the Marlboro Man sweat pants or Joe Camel polo style shirts we all wore, even if you didn’t smoke. My personal favorite was the Corona beer “La playa mas fina” long sleeve shirt. Hell, I might even still have that in a closet someplace, right next to my “Frankie says relax” concert T, another artifact that wouldn’t pass muster today.

    The pussification of America continues unabated.

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      Our principal once paged me over the school intercom to borrow my pocket knife. Gone are the days.

      1. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

        Nice. Closest I came to anything similar was when I got busted n middle school for selling candy. Used to buy from the local wholesaler and sell at school at regular retail prices. Atomic fireballs, jolly ranchers, and laffy taffy! Oh my! Still can’t believe they let a monster like me just roam the streets.

        When I got busted by the Asst. Principal, he went to pull my file so he could call my parents. When he returned to call me into his office for that phone call, he found me at the office front desk selling packs of watermelon Bubbalicious to the Principal. Case dismissed.

    2. avatar 16V says:

      In the front end of the 80s, at a school about 50 miles from a major metro, we brought our guns to school if we were going hunting at a friends afterwards. On the bus. If you could drive, there was a parking lot full of vehicles, most had gun racks, all had something loaded in the rack.

      Every guy carried a pocket knife and nobody called the cops when they busted some kid with pot.

      Halcyon days.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        You just described southwest Oklahoma in the 70’s.

        Half of those beater pickups had a propane tank bolted to the truck bed.

        It was somewhat common for the family farm to have hanger.

        Less common (but nice) was an occasional WW-II T-6 trainer next to a Piper Cub…

    3. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Corona shirts…

      So, you clowns were the reason a cheap Mexican beer, which you had to put citrus in to make it drinkable, suddenly became an overpriced “import” beer.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        Give the marketers props, that con job *worked*…

        1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

          Con job, indeed

    4. avatar DaveL says:

      I once had a reserve CO who was an assistant principal at a local high school. I remember him discussing civilian attitudes towards the military: “Some people think soldiers are all bloodthirsty warmongers, but the truth is not everybody is like me.”

      1. avatar AR says:

        Justice Scalio explained to 2 newbies (Sotomayor and Kagan?) how he carried a cased .22LR target rifle on the NY subway from home to school for his JROTC classes.

        Evidently he’s now got Kagan hooked on Sporting Clays.

        1. avatar AR says:

          *Kaygan*

    5. avatar Frank in VA says:

      “Kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out”

      Haha. I bought that same shirt around 8th grade at a surplus store. I managed to get out the door a few times with a jacket covering it to wear it to school until my Mom got wise and put a stop to it. She didn’t mind me keeping a 20-gauge model 870 on the wall rack in my room with full shell tube (labeled as ‘loaded’), a habit I started after I saw Red Dawn the first time, but the shirt apparently crossed a line of ‘decency’.

      Just to show how things have changed, in the 80’s I brought an antique shotgun to high school for an English class skit. The teacher and school disciplinarian approved it ahead of time. The school honcho just had me bring it by his office first to verify it was unloaded and I had no ammo with me, and then turned me loose in the halls. No drama at all.

  10. avatar Bungameng says:

    Meanwhile in the Czech Republic…

    https://www.maturitnitabla.cz/tablo/918/civilni-obrana (NSFW)

    1. avatar LifeAbounds says:

      WTF !?!

      LMFAO

    2. avatar PeterW says:

      “This is my rifle, this is my gun”?

    3. avatar Geoff PR says:

      One woman. fully clothed…

      *sigh*

      I thought you Europeans had that equality thing down by now? 🙂

      1. avatar Scoutino says:

        That’s the teacher. In CZ students usually don’t make yearbooks. Highschool seniors take pictures of themselves and their teachers and school principal and arrange them (sometimes in funny way) on a board which they display in some store window for passers-by to see.
        Btw this is trade school and future gunsmiths.

        1. avatar AR says:

          Not enough eyebleach. I may have to sell my CZ’s after that.

  11. avatar Almost Esq. says:

    This school needs a nice civil rights violation law suit. The student in question did not violate any of the rules in question. This is arbitrary and capricious, and is beyond even their own insane rules. In short, I say sue them!

  12. avatar lasttoknow says:

    I think creating “wimps” is the goal of all political correctness. Wimps are easy to control, lack initiative and boldness.

  13. avatar gs650g says:

    Glad my kid doesn’t go to government school

    1. avatar pg2 says:

      With common core, they’re all the same.

  14. avatar LJM says:

    I just wonder if he would need a Falconery license to tote such a bird, openly nonetheless.

    1. avatar Chrispy says:

      Couldn’t a bird of prey be considered an “Assault Eagle”?

      1. avatar BINC says:

        Yep, no one needs an eagle with more than 10mm talons

        1. avatar LJM says:

          That would be .10mm Talons, sir.

  15. avatar tsbhoA.P.jr says:

    “in sunnyslope, there was no hope.
    towards transcendence we did blindly grope.”
    fish karma.
    i agree with the above pussification comment, but the shirt and sweat examples offered were lame even back then.

  16. avatar Ralph says:

    In his grade school picture, he was eating a Pop Tart.

    They grow up so quickly.

  17. avatar Milsurp Collector says:

    The entire U.S. public education system was designed to operate like this from day one, trends of the past 30 years are just a sign of rapid growth in the wrong direction. It’s not even about cultivating kids to be afraid of guns and gun owners anymore. Their goal is to turn anyone who rebels against the pop-culture/international socialist narrative into a pariah, and put pressure on the weak-willed kids to prevent them from ever fighting back a la current policies on “bullying” and “fighting.”

  18. avatar Chris says:

    The Eagle “replacement” is hilarious.

  19. avatar DerryM says:

    What we are allowing the Public School System to do to our children is an abomination. When I was in Public High School we presented a shortened version of the play “The Life and Death of Sneaky Fitch”. A Western where each Act featured the central character shooting down an opponent in a Old-West Gun Fight. We used real guns with blank cartridges and no one thought anything about it. We went through a couple hundred blank rounds in rehearsal, performance and just fooling around. None of us performers was over eighteen.
    This show was done several times over the years because the Student Body loved it, and it was pretty humorous.
    Impossible today.

  20. avatar Desert Ranger says:

    The only reason to ban the photo from the yearbook is his lousy trigger discipline!!!

    1. His finger is not on the trigger.
      Look again. His trigger finger is straight and outside the trigger guard.

  21. avatar Mmmtacos says:

    “Weapons are banned on school property.”

    So that means pictures of weapons are banned on school property as well? This is completely bunk, and the first of his allegations to try to duly justify his poor reasoning.

    “Another rule prohibits publishing materials in school-sponsored media that violates federal or state law or promotes violence, terrorism or other illegal activity.”

    What laws did he violate? You fail to mention that. Secondly it’s interesting you think a picture of a gun is on par with promoting terrorism. Thirdly I fail to see how he’s promoting violence in the slightest… he’s simply holding a gun.

    “A third policy forbids clothing that promotes weapons.”

    Now you’re just being plain stupid. It’s an American flag shirt, and you’re being incredibly disrespectful in your implication that the flag promotes weaponry. It stands for a great many things, freedom and liberty, concepts you’ve probably lost any real understanding of. It doesn’t stand for any type of material object, but perhaps the protection of the right to keep and bear those sorts of objects, not the least of which are weapons.

    Pack your bags, renounce your citizenship and please exit the United States of America, Andy Dahlen, you are not welcome.

    1. avatar Scoutino says:

      ‘Thirdly I fail to see how he’s promoting violence in the slightest… he’s simply holding a gun.’
      Don’t you see? #gunviolence.
      Gun–>violence! It’s so simple.
      Repeat the mantra “gunviolence” in the news, debates, all over media for couple of years and watch the sheep equate guns with violence.
      Propaganda. It works!

  22. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Home school people. It is what it is. PC world-for the children. Glad my kids are out of high school…

  23. avatar Hannibal says:

    Reason 4: he looks like a tool

    Reasons 1-3 are silly though. But since when does everyone pick their own yearbook photos? In mine it was a big deal if you picked your own clothing for it…

  24. avatar Adam says:

    I’m from North Dakota and I got out of High School in 01′ and back then we couldnt have guns in our senior pics. This rule had been around for awhile and its not because a “liberal” is pushing it on one school.

  25. avatar Swarf says:

    Kid gave his right arm to have an eagle in his picture.

  26. avatar kevin says:

    The other day was my kids’ catholic school open house day, and in walking through the building I could see art projects from many different grades. Of note:
    – A fifth grade project involving “people of the world” featured a kid-constructed cutout of a Buckingham Palace Guard complete with rifle.
    – A “greatest American” project featuring legendary war hero Audie Murphy.
    – A six grade project featuring kid-made replicas of prehistoric weapons.
    – Numerous other pictures of heros, soldiers, etc. featuring period relevant firearms.

    No mass killers have come out of that school, as far as I know.

  27. avatar pres stone says:

    the kids a dipshit. guns aren’t so you feel tough or look cool.

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