See All Open Sight Releases New Design, Adds Tritium Option

The See All Open Sight is a pretty unique product, and I jumped on it early in 2014 for my “Ultimate Mosin Nagant” build, then followed up with a review on the sight itself. In response to customer feedback, version 2.0 has received numerous updates to nearly every aspect of its design . . .

Consumers’ biggest sore spot with the See All was its mounting system. It had a fixed groove machined into the bottom and had to slide down the gun’s rail from the end to wherever its final destination was (which isn’t actually possible on some firearms), where it was then fixed in place via a set screw. All of this is gone, and the new version mounts to a Picatinny rail via a more typical cross-bolt clamp system.

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As V2.0 is sleeker and lighter, See All is milling it to fit in the rear sight dovetail of various pistols. Five dovetail-fit pistol models are going to be available right out of the gate (I believe 1911, GLOCK, M&P, XD, and FN).

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For 2016 the reticle has been changed from the delta (a solid black triangle) to a more standard crosshair. [EDIT: the crosshair is a new option, but the delta will still be available.]

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Also available is the option of Tritium illumination. A Tritium vial is embedded in front of the fiber optic slab, and sets the whole FO aglow. See All towed a trailer down to range day so you could step into it and close the door, and the sight worked as advertised in the dark.

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  1. avatar Steve says:

    Tried it at SHOT. GREAT on a long gun, lousy on a pistol. The owner of the company was an incredibly nice guy, and I don’t fault him for trying something new, but, like a ‘ghost ring’ rear sight on an AK, it just doesn’t work…

    Maybe with a ton of practice it could be viable, but it was one of the slowest sight pictures I’ve ever tried to acquire on a handgun.

    1. avatar Jeremy S. says:

      It’s definitely easier to acquire on a long gun, both because of the consistency of having a cheek weld and because the reticle appears larger when the sight is closer. People have the same issue with red dots on pistols. If you don’t have that muscle memory to bring a given pistol up to the same place at the same angle every time, these sights are not as fast. I still think they’re easier to teach new shooters with, though, as it’s much simpler for a beginner to figure out how to line things up properly than with irons. But I do agree, and think the See All is at its best on a shotgun followed by on a rifle.

      1. avatar James in AZ says:

        Could you please explain to me how does this thing achieve “parallax-free”? I couldnt figure it out for the life of me

        1. avatar Jeremy S. says:

          No matter where your eye is in relation to the back of the sight, if the gun is staying still then the crosshair is staying exactly on target. Look through the rear lens too high, too low, to the left or right, and the crosshair will appear to move as your head moves but you’ll note that it’s staying exactly over the same spot downrange (so you can trust the reticle alignment even if your eye is off-center). This is the meaning of no parallax. You can see it in action just over a minute into the video. Even easier to see after about 3:11 into this video:

        2. avatar James in AZ says:

          @Jeremy S
          Thank you! But man, i was curious about HOW it did this? Are there a series of lenses within that green fiber optic? Is this like a reflex sight without a power source? I couldnt find any technical details on their website or any patent online

        3. avatar Jeremy S. says:

          Oh haha, sorry. There’s just one lens, but it’s flat on the inside and convex like a magnifying glass on the outside (eye side). It may be the curve of that lens that makes it parallax free, as it may be taking the single point of light/focus from the reticle and spreading it out on the eye side of the lens. Or something haha. Not my area of expertise. As for the reticle, I believe it’s a decal that’s applied to the face of that green slab of fiber optic material. You can’t see through it, but the fiber optic slab glows pretty brightly and makes that reticle pop. It’s pretty dang tiny in actuality, and the glass lens magnifies it. The farther away you are, the bigger the reticle appears.

  2. avatar James69 says:

    Dammit. I just got one of these about 2 months ago. Well, anyway I love mine have it on my 12ga turkey gun, shoots magnum turkey loads and dosen’t miss a beat. Looks like I’ll be getting the new one for my 7.62 AR pistol. Cool. On the bright side the old ones that work great might go on sale!! Total Win!

    Any idea on the $$$???

    1. avatar 7350 says:

      Same here. I paid a gunsmith way too much money recently to put a rail on my Winchester 1300 Defender just so I could put a See All Open Sight on it. I bought the sight a few months ago thinking that it had been an established design for several years and that it probably wouldn’t change for a while. Guess I was wrong. The newest iteration of the sight looks great though and should be around for a very long time in its new form.

  3. avatar Geoff PR says:

    Dumb question:

    Has anyone considered making a red dot sight with the dot illuminated by a fiber optic lit by a tritium vial that can be user replaceable?

    1. Trijicon already makes those, sans the user-replaceable tritium. I’ve used one. They’re nice.

    2. avatar int19h says:

      Meprolight M21 has a dot lit solely by tritium and fiber optic, no batteries. Not sure if it’s replaceable tho.

      The problem with them is that they wash out when looking out of a dark place into a bright one (e.g. out of a window on a sunny day, or from under a tree onto open space).

  4. avatar James69 says:

    I was drawn to it because it requires no batteries and so far very durable and the $100 price tag also very lightweight. Weight is a real consideration for me as I have to hike in 3-8 miles thru rough terrain when hunting deer or turkey. Those of you who hike/camp know every oz matters.

  5. avatar Sian says:

    Might get one of these when I build my lightweight AR. It weighs less than a front/rear iron set.

    1. avatar James69 says:

      Yep, and has high vis ,now even in the dark. I’m glad they changed the mounting. It would suprise you the amount of variance in something as simple as the rails. Makes ya wonder if the other parts of the rifles are badly sized (out of spec) too? If they goofed something as simple as rail size what else is hosed up?
      Would be a good topic for a write-up. Somebody should take one of the High end AR’s and one of the lowest and see. We might be shocked.

      1. avatar Jeremy S. says:

        Well “out of spec” is an interesting topic, because a lot of the specs allow for a certain level of tolerance that might result in a loose fit on the rail of one gun and a tight fit on another, but both could be well within official spec. But, to your point, I’ve slid my V1 See All onto a bunch of different guns and I had to hammer it onto the rail of one while nothing but gravity is needed to slide it down on some others…

  6. avatar fishydude says:

    And they show it on the FNX45. Pretty cool. Might have to get one 😀

  7. avatar BDub says:

    Definitely interested in one of these for my 930 JM PRO. So far I have been disappointed with most of what I have put on it. I am a little worried about how high it sits on the rail. I wonder if a direct mount option would be possible, to get it lower?

  8. avatar David PA/NJ says:

    Did they say when it will be available? There’s no mention of the 2.0 version on their website.

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