New From Winchester: M-22 Subsonic .22LR Ammunition

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This year’s SHOT Show, as always, featured virtually everything the most ardent gun guy or gal could want where things that go bang are concerned. And maybe it’s just us, but it certainly seemed that suppressors were more prominently featured at this year’s show. Just check out Tyler’s silencer-centric coverage and see for yourself. One in-the-know friend of ours figures that the ATF dropping the CLEO sign-off requirement will probably result in 250,000 more suppressors being sold. Never ones to let grass grow under their feet, Winchester’s now out with a subsonic .22LR round specifically marketed to take advantage of the trend . . .

New M-22 Subsonic™ Ideal for Suppressed, Unsuppressed Semi-Autos

EAST ALTON, Ill. – Winchester Ammunition delivered one of the most significant innovations to hit the rimfire world in 2013 with the introduction of the 17 Winchester Super Magnum, but where new rimfire loads are concerned, the company is far from over. In 2016, Winchester Ammunition continues to invest in its rimfire product line with the development of a new M-22 Subsonic .22 LR round.

The M-22 is designed specifically to function in semi-automatic firearms, while remaining subsonic from both pistol and rifle length barrels. The new M-22 Subsonic features a 45-grain black-plated lead round nose bullet that has the equivalent energy of full velocity 36-grain rimfire products. In addition, the M-22 Subsonic utilizes non-corrosive priming and clean burning powder for reduced muzzle flash.

The M-22 Subsonic was also created with suppressed firearms in mind, but performs just as well in unsuppressed rifles and handguns. During Winchester testing, M-22 Subsonic rounds measured 129 dB from an unsuppressed rifle. That is significantly quieter than a full velocity .22 LR fired from a suppressed rifle, which typically measures around 138 db. With the addition of a suppressor, M-22 Subsonic achieves a remarkably quiet 116 db.

M-22 Subsonic will be available in 100-round plastic packs and 800-round bulk packs.

“Suppressed firearms are growing in popularity. This is the perfect round for shooters looking to reduce the noise of each shot even more,” said Brett Flaugher, Winchester Ammunition vice president of marketing, sales and strategy.

About Winchester Ammunition
The iconic Winchester brand celebrates 150 years of legendary excellence in 2016—a historic milestone representing a steadfast commitment to the hunting and shooting sports traditions and future generations of sportsmen. A world leader in delivering innovative products, Winchester is The American Legend, a brand built on integrity, hard work and a deep focus on its loyal customers. Learn more about the history of Winchester by visiting Winchester.com or connect with us on Facebook at Facebook.com/WinchesterOfficial.

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  1. avatar pwrserge says:

    Until we get federal preemption on NFA items it’s rather pointless. You can bet that most anti-gun states will rather quickly pass bills handing the denial authority back to themselves.

    That’s why I love the Hearing Protection Act. The latest version includes a federal preemption clause.

    1. avatar James69 says:

      yeah until they require them on everything that goes boom. I can just see it now a $400 single shot cricket rifle. 12 gauges with a 3 foot can on them etc..

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Please tell me how states would be able to get around that anyway. Regulation of NFA items or even firearms should be preempted at the federal level. Period. That way, we don’t wind up fighting this battle over and over in every state. If we lose at the federal level, it won’t matter anyway.

        1. avatar sagebrushracer says:

          I have full faith that the slave states will find some way to fudge it up IF it passes.

          I mean, look what they did to the 2nd Amendment, thats about federal preemption as it gets, yet here we are.

  2. avatar Jeff O says:

    That’s great.

    More .22LR types that aren’t available.

    1. avatar James69 says:

      + 10,000 It’s plated with teflon……..

    2. avatar Bartjoebob says:

      People want wildcats in 333 and 555 for $.03/ per round… Not this

      1. avatar James69 says:

        Those days are gone forever. .22 is the new .223.

        1. avatar SteveO says:

          …and I recall that gasoline prices would never get below $2.00/ Gal, too.

        2. avatar BDub says:

          You mean 22LR is now considered military-grade, cop-killing, 30 rounds a half-second, armor-piercing, machine-gun ammo?

      2. avatar Sovereign says:

        I was thinking this as well. I’d rather see regular .22 production up. I can’t tell you the last time I saw a brick of .22. I can’t even tell you the last time I shot my .22.

      3. avatar Jim Jones says:

        Gentlemen, http://www.ammoseek.com or http://www.gunbot.net is your friend. I have routinely been able to find .22LR for $0.07 to $0.08 per round, and I now have more .22lr than I’ll probably ever need, all this after Newtown. Is it hard to find in bricks & mortar stores? Sure. But this is 2015, and the internet is your friend.

        1. avatar SteveInCO says:

          How much did you have to pay for shipping?

        2. avatar int19h says:

          I have already crunched those numbers in the other news story that we had a few days ago. Basically, you can still get it at ~9c/round for the cheapest stuff, even with shipping. Or ~11c for CCI Standard.

        3. avatar Jake_in_AK says:

          Yeah- doesn’t help some of us. Nobody will ship to Anituvik, and the last time I saw a box of .22 was last December.
          I pretty much only shoot centerfire these days because I can reload, and powder/ primers are available in the big towns, and brass/bullets can be shipped out here

        4. avatar Bartjoebob says:

          $.05-.06 per round is about the max I’m willing to pay for 22 plinking ammo, shipped. Manufacturers are ignoring the demand for what the public wants- federal 550 and Winchester 555 bulk packs and the like- period! They keep dreaming up all this BS niche ammo that no one is going to use just to declair they “did something” to the press- just like our feckless president. Here’s an idea, make 22,cheap and plentiful as an introductory cartridge for all the millions of new gun owners out there. They will get hooked and upgrade to bigger calibers with better margins. Duh!!

    3. avatar SteveInCO says:

      I am reminded, for some reason of the old joke they told in the Soviet Union… A guy walks into a shop and says, “You wouldn’t happen to have any meat, would you?”

      “Comrade, this is the bakery. We wouldn’t happen to have any bread. Go across the street to the meat shop. They wouldn’t happen to have any meat.”

      I’m not sure what made me think of this.

      Say, you wouldn’t happen to have any .22 LR, would you?

    4. avatar BDub says:

      I have come here to plink cans, and chew bubblegum. And the store only has bubblegum.
      – Roddy “Sadface” Piper

      1. avatar Noisemaker says:

        HA! Winner of the Internet, January 2016!

  3. avatar James69 says:

    New with extra dirt!!!

  4. avatar James69 says:

    Sure pre-order it now and it will be in next week….or so, maybe

  5. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

    M-22 is the worst 22lr I have ever used. Back in the darkest days of the shortage a 2000 round can showed up at the local Dick’s so I bought some. My 1911-22, which eats everything else , won’t eat it. It even jams in my Savage MK II bolt fun.

  6. avatar BDub says:

    How much energy does a 45 grain sub-sonic bullet even have? And whats the drop and wind look like on that?

    1. avatar SteveInCO says:

      That funny feeling was the bullet landing on your toe after it dropped from the muzzle.

      1. avatar Defens says:

        You like rainbow trajectories, you might like trying a box of Aguila 69-grain subsonics. Not recommended for silencer use though, since they drop a bunch before they clear the baffles….

        1. avatar BDub says:

          Yikes!

        2. avatar JNZ says:

          “You like rainbow trajectories, you might like trying a box of Aguila 69-grain subsonics. Not recommended for silencer use though, since they drop a bunch before they clear the baffles….”

          …. This is the worst site in the world if you want anything true. But excellent for subjective nonsense.

          The 69gr rounds are FINE through a suppressor, the issue is that most 22s have a 1:16 twist, which is entirely wrong for Aguila SSS rounds. You need a 1:7-1:9 or so twist to stabilize them.

          The issue is NOT that they are “drop a bunch” into the suppressor baffles, it’s they aren’t leaving most 1:16 22lr barrels with any degree of stability. THAT is why they aren’t recommended for suppressors, basically the only thing they are good at is being fired from 22lr AR15 conversions.

  7. avatar Rob C says:

    Your headline might as well have read: “New from Winchester: Jack’s Magic Beans”. Tell me another fairy tale….

    1. avatar James69 says:

      Now that’s funny.

  8. avatar ACP_arms says:

    I found out that Winchester’s 40gr sub-sonic truncated hollow-point will cycle
    the action of my 10/22 – 8 out of 10 times.

  9. avatar Lawbob says:

    The only problem I had w m22 is that I’m out of m22.

    Cycles fine in Mark 3 22/45 and ar22 (tac Sol)

    45 grains should allow it to have more powder and cycle more semi autos in subsonic.

    1. avatar Matt iin TX says:

      I would love to have the regular m-22. I worked well in all of my guns. Shot very clean. No leading problems. No dead rounds. Haven’t seen any for sale locally in two years.

  10. avatar mike says:

    800-rd bulk packs… pssshh… i believe it when i see it.

  11. avatar TXGal says:

    Picked up a brick of 500 rounds of CCI Quiet for $28.00 at local Academy for my Ruger LCR 22lr
    It was behind the counter but they had it.

  12. avatar CanadianShill says:

    Last time I shot normal M22 out of my 10/22 within 20 rounds my rifle wouldn’t hit within 2 feet of where I aimed, the soft lead smeared down the barrel, I’m assuming from getting scarred while being chambered… No more straight lead .22 for me…. Sad panda

  13. avatar Dave says:

    I’ve never had problems with M-22. Sure, it isn’t the most accurate stuff, but it runs fine in my S&W 15-22, and groups at around 1″ at 50 yards from my Savage MKII. It even runs ok in my P226 .22 conversion, so if I could find any more I would definitely buy it.

  14. avatar slow joe crow says:

    Winchester 22 has a reputation for being dirty shooting and often hard to chamber. Aguila looks like a much better deal since hv and sv bricks are easily found fr $39.95 on line. Even better, my lgs occasionally has CCI sv on the shelf for the same price.

  15. avatar Mark Bennett says:

    Just a point to folks out there. I live in Europe and although we are hassled to death with stupid laws and restrictions on our guns, one thing we do have much easier is buying ‘sound moderators’ (as I like to call them. They cost from about $50-$150 for rimfire types to about $400 and upwards for centre fire weapons – no taxes to pay and no paperwork in most cases.

    So the point I wanted to make is that I tested a range of 22LR ammo. The so-called subsonic rounds (that cost more) and various other (no super speed stuff) 22LR rounds. Conclusion, just buy regular CCI standard. It’s 1070fps and the speed of sound is 1125fps (yes I know air density and temperature can change this a bit). Using CCI standard is already subsonic.

    There are of course lots of other similar range of speed 22LRs out there. I have quite a few sound moderators and they all work just fine on pistols and rifles. Sound is never silent but good enough to shoot without disturbing anyone close by.

    I hope my American friends get this long term pain-in-thee-ass ‘silencer’ issue sorted out. Having to complete paperwork and pay a unwarranted tax is really not right. You’ll see the whole market open up with great models and prices if this becomes the case.

    Regards to you all and remember to keep fighting for your rights – registered weapons lead to confiscated weapons – don’t ever be misled or fooled by politicians.

  16. avatar Narcoossee says:

    I’ve been waiting for an order of regular M-22 for about three years. I’d prefer Winchester focus on taking care of existing backlog.

  17. avatar Dan l says:

    Come on, if your an executive at winchester you would make and market premium 22, not the cheap stuff, profit margin is way way higher, especially these days, where if a box of 22 gets to a store shelf, someone will buy it almost irregardless of price. At 10 cents a round 22 is so over priced, I can get subsonic 9mm reloads for 18 cents a round, would much rather have it…..

  18. avatar commonwealth109 says:

    I’ve used plenty of the regular Winchester M-22 and I like it just fine.
    If we actually see the 800 round bulk packs of the M-22 SubSonic then I will be very happy!

  19. avatar MarkCZ455 says:

    We should not equate this new product to the M22 of old. This is a entirely new product from Winchester. The name is only shared. If borrow tech from the only 2 other 45 grain 22lr ammo I know of then it going to be a great product. From the reading it sure sounds like the tech is borrowed or very similar.

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