Press release [full text after the jump]: “December 28, 2015 – Brea, California, USA – KRISS USA, the pioneer of the KRISS Super V Recoil Mitigation System, is pleased to present the 2016 KRISS Vector Generation II new pricing as part of its cost reduction strategy. All models of the KRISS Vector Generation II have been reduced in price by as much as $446.00 MSRP thanks to more efficient production.” A cynical man might suggest that KRISS’ price reduction has more to do with moving product than cost efficiencies. As my father used to say “everything sells at a price.” So, what gun have you been hankering for that costs too much, that you’d buy if it were less expensive? How much would you pay?

KRISS USA reduces pricing across all KRISS Vector models, effective December 2015.

December 28, 2015 – Brea, California, USA – KRISS USA, the pioneer of the KRISS Super V Recoil Mitigation System, is pleased to present the 2016 KRISS Vector Generation II new pricing as part of its cost reduction strategy. All models of the KRISS Vector Generation II have been reduced in price by as much as $446.00 MSRP thanks to more efficient production.

KRISS USA successfully relocated their Virginia Beach, Virginia manufacturing facility to a more spacious facility in Chesapeake, Virginia in early 2015. The Chesapeake facility allowed for a restructuring of production to a more efficient process, resulting in savings across the entire Vector product line.

The KRISS Vector Generation II SDP, pistol variant with no stock and a 5.5” barrel, 9mm and .45ACP feature a new starting price of $1,349.00 and $1,369.00, respectively. Cerakote color options are available for the Vector SDP in Flat Dark Earth (FDE), Olive Drab Green (ODG), and Alpine White for an additional $80.00.

The KRISS Vector Generation II CRB, carbine variant with adjustable stock and 16” barrel, 9mm and .45ACP feature a starting price of $1,499.00 and $1,519.00, respectively. Cerakote color options are available in FDE, ODG, and Alpine for an additional $80.00. Also available is the KRISS Vector Generation II CRB Enhanced which features Combat Grey Cerakote, an Enhanced Barrel Shroud, a Magpul RVG Vertical Grip, a KRISS Hand Stop, a MIL-STD 1913 Side Mounted Picatinny Accessory Rail, and an extra magazine. The CRB Enhanced is available in 9mm for $1,699.00 and in 45ACP for $1,719.00. Fixed stock versions of the KRISS Vector Generation II CRB are available where state law prohibits adjustable stocks.

The KRISS Vector Generation II SBR, short barreled rifle variant with adjustable stock and 5.5” barrel, 9mm and .45ACP feature a starting price of $1,549.00 and $1,569.00 respectively. Cerakote color options are available in FDE, ODG, and Alpine for an additional $80.00.

The KRISS Vector Generation II is also available in a select fire SMG variant for law enforcement, military, and Class 3 weapon dealers.

The foundation of every Vector is the patented KRISS Super V Recoil Mitigation System. All Vector models are compatible with Glock pistol magazines. Converting between 9mm and .45ACP can be done without tools by changing lower receivers. Additional features include the enhanced pivoting trigger, ambidextrous short throw safety lever, flip sights, and the MIL-STD 1913 Picatinny top rail.

For more information about the KRISS Vector Generation II, and pricing, visit the newly reconstructed KRISS USA website at www.kriss-usa.com.

About KRISS Group

KRISS USA is the North American extension of the Switzerland based KRISS Group. KRISS USA delivers proprietary technologies to the firearms industry, enabling more efficient solutions and corresponding to the 21st century requirements for the global law enforcement, military, and civilian markets.

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155 Responses to Question of the Day: What Gun Would You Buy If It Cost Less?

  1. The answer to which gun I would buy if price was no object – is always the same answer… GAU-8, with accessory carrying case (A-10)

      • It’s neat and everything, certainly kinda spendy to shoot; but if you think it’s hard to find a range that allows .50 BMG, wait until you start looking for a spot to bust caps with THAT thing…

        • No range seems to have a problem with it here in NC. All it is is just another semi automatic in pistol caliber. To be honest it is really not any better or worse than a host of other weapons on the market.

        • So run 20 miles offshore! Maybe get some info under the table about routes used by drug smugglers. Might be a long time before your current range sees you again! That would be too much fun!

  2. I’d totally buy a Tavor if it sold for around $1000. At its current price point it’s out of reach for me.

    • A Tavor would be considered for $1,000. Maybe a couple Pythons for that price while we’re in Imagionationland? Heck, lets throw a couple HK416 and 17’s, and a few of those Crane EBR M14’s in the back of the half track to fill the corners.

    • As an early adopter who paid over $2k for a Tavor, I feel the need to throw out some peer-pressure and say, “C’mon, ya puss! Buy the gun!”

  3. A Freedom Arms 97 worked over by Hamilton Bowen into his version of the SAA. Ivory (maybe Woolly Mammoth) grips and a medium amount of engraving and inlay.

  4. Since the Vector’s recoil system would only be an advantage in full-auto, if the price dropped on all arms $446.00, I’d like to have an Auto-Ordinance M1A1Semi-auto Thompson, with a barrel of 1944 Mil-spec length.

    • Have you shot a Vector? If you think it only has an advantage in FA you clearly have never shot one. That is where it has it’s biggest advantage, but it is still very noticeable in semi.

  5. Either item made by FNH chambered in 5.7. I just don’t see a reason for a 80% polymer gun to be that expensive.

    The Tavor is the same way, $1700+ for the same amount of polymer is ridiculous.

    • Ummm, you do realize that steel is very very cheap as well, right? Being made of polymer vs metal will make little difference in actual cost.

      • Cheese wiz plastic (injection molding) is a lot cheaper to manufacture than high quality steel parts that require precise machining.

      • yeah, which brings us to problem 2, it would be sooo much fun to shoot, and sooo expensive to feed. worse than .22lr if you can believe that!

        • This is one of the few times we Canadians have you guys beat. We can get the Chinese made knockoff of the m1a for like $700 Canadian dollars. I got mine for like $500, years ago. Apparently the receiver quality is better too though I don’t know too much about it.

          The advantage here is that you can buy the cheap m1a, send it out for gunsmithing/mods and get back a much better gun for the same price as a stock SA M1A. I love mine.

  6. Dan Wesson 17 in original case with all the unchangeable barrels with barrel changing wench Have model 15 now with 4″ & 6″ barrel. Thinking of getting 2″ barrel Sweet double/signal trigger

  7. Big Horn Armory model 90 carbine. I’d say .50 BMG but I don’t have anywhere to shoot over 200 yards, so I’d need that too. I have a few other calibers that I’d buy if the ammo was cheaper. I was looking at a Ruger no.1 RSI international in .257 Roberts. I like the cartridge but I can’t find ammo for less than $1.40/round. Now they’re out in 6.5×55 which can be had for 65cents/round, so I’m leaning toward the Swede.

  8. SVD Dragunov for about the price of the 7.62x54r VEPRs: $1200.
    That or a PKM for at most $2000, or if we’re still dreaming, its little brother the PKP for a little more.

  9. Kriss Vector yes but it need other change on federal level >> re open the register 4 full auto, in semi not so intresting
    Another one would an fostech origin 12 and an anzio 20mm but to expensive.

  10. Franchi SPAS-12,

    just forced to sell unfired model for $ reasons [musta been a fing straw purchase of mine a few years back then, hunh?]. Anyone interested see 2A in Tulsa, OK. Really nice gun,

    Had to also part with a NIB Century AK style weapon.

    Trade all ya all prayers.

    • I have had thousand dollar firearms, and I make a lot less than 100k. I save, and I watch trends buy cheap and trade up.

  11. Heck, I’d be happy to get some magnum revolvers at what they sold for 5-10 years ago. I never thought I’d see the day when you could buy two Glocks for the cost of one S&W .44 Mag. And Ruger is breathing right down S&W’s neck with their wheelgun prices.

  12. I’d probably be more apt to pick up a sig if they were cheaper. If I could get a navy 226 for like 600 I’d be all over that. I’d trade in dat sweet glock I got even. 🙂

  13. Realistic firearms that are slightly out of my price range vs. necessity, the list is the following:

    Springfield M1A.
    High quality AR-10
    S&W 686
    Springfield XDm 4.5″ (or maybe the 5.25″)
    H&K VP9
    Walther PPQ 5″

  14. If I’m gonna dream, might as well dream big! One of the bullpup long rifles, like a GM6 Lynx or DTA SRS, or, holy grail moment, one of the twelve Walther WA2000s still here in the US.

  15. Springfield Armory M1A
    Cooper Firearms Western Classic in 6.5×55 AND in .280 Rem AI
    Cooper Firearms Excaliber in 9.3×62
    Browning Automatic Rifle – the real one

    I could go on and on, but that’s a good start.

    • I have one, It is a great rifle But the problem is Bushmaster has no support, parts are impossible. and there are no barrel kits out, you can’t make your own.because the retainer ring has been on BO for 2 years. all those promises and a whole bunch of nothing This one had so much potential wasted because it is left to die. Mine is gathering up dust because i don’t want to risk shooting it because it breaks i can’t get any parts Bushmaster and Remington really screwed me over on this one and i will never give them another dime

    • Ordinance
      noun
      1. an authoritative rule or law; a decree or command.
      2. a public injunction or regulation: a city ordinance against excessive horn blowing.

      Ordnance
      noun
      1. cannon or artillery.
      2. military weapons with their equipment, ammunition, etc.
      3. the branch of an army that procures, stores, and issues, weapons, munitions, and combat vehicles and maintains arsenals for their development and testing.

  16. A Parker Invincible. The first one, specifically. But the current owners aren’t about to part with any one of the three of these shotguns anytime soon.

    One of Lefever’s highest grade guns would also be nice.

    Absent that, a Winchester Model 70, pre-war, .220 Swift or .257 Roberts, highest grade possible. A pre-war Model 52 would also be a nice acquisition.

    A S&W Model 52-2 match pistol (it was chambered in .38 Special) in 95%+ shape would also be a nice acquisition. A Colt Python or three.

    I can honestly say that there are darn few modern guns that would attract more of my attention if the price were lower. However…if the workmanship were better at the current price, or even at a higher price, then a couple of the modern offerings might attract more of my attention.

    • Every time I can afford one 52s are nowhere to be found, but God forbid I buy something else because one will pop up guaranteed if I’m skint.

      • Are we talking about the Win 52? If so, there are places I could point you towards to find 52’s that won’t be the usual public used gun places. 52’s, being so much favored by rimfire competitors, are often found in the shops that cater to rimfire shooters. Same thing with 40X’s, 513T’s, etc. They’re much like high-grade double guns – they have their own niche markets.

        • Winchester Model 52 with the bull barrel and the marksman stock (which I believe was requisite for the bull barrel set up), with a good set of aperture sights, globe front if possible. Love a very fine target .22 bolt action, but something about those Marksman stocks in fine condition…I begin to salivate.

          Barring that, I’ll keep searching for a Winchester Model 70 Alaskan Stainless Laminate in .375 H&H Magnum to go with the Model 70 ASL I have in .30-06.

  17. S&W M&P R8 2 at half the price. It is probably worth it at 1000 + but I am not putting that much down on a wheel gun.

    • I like the R8 well enough, but for just plain smooth and shiny, one of the 627 PC 5″ guns will do nicely. Trigger’s always seemed better out of the box every time I see them in the great glass enticement chamber.

  18. Something with a giggle switch.

    Ohio Ordinance Semi Auto BAR.

    ok, the first two would have to be a *lot* less.

    Scar 17. nice rifle, but $3 grand and I won’t even like the trigger.

    • Ordinance
      noun
      1. an authoritative rule or law; a decree or command.
      2. a public injunction or regulation: a city ordinance against excessive horn blowing.

      Ordnance
      noun
      1. cannon or artillery.
      2. military weapons with their equipment, ammunition, etc.
      3. the branch of an army that procures, stores, and issues, weapons, munitions, and combat vehicles and maintains arsenals for their development and testing.

  19. Realistically, a FN FiveseveN. I want it, just not for the price it is to shoot a debated caliber that only about 4 guns shoot (FiveseveN, PS-90, AR57, and that Matercraparms).

  20. MAG 58 machine gun or M60 for old times sake plus these days jeep or young person to carry it and all the ammo.
    Not sure how I used to lug 600 plus rounds of 7.62 link and gun around many years back.

  21. Kriss vector pistol for sure.
    Actually, pretty much all of the AR/Sub pistols. Love the look and feel of them, but I don’t see myself spending the money (especially with our pain-in-the-butt coupon, permit, and renewal system).

  22. FN SCAR 17
    Sig MPX
    Tavor
    S&W Model 41

    Appealing but not role-filling enough compared to other less expensive guns to be worth the asking price.

  23. Desert Tech SRS-A1. I got to shoot one for a day at a precision shooting school. That rifle is amazing. $3,400 for the chassis then another $1600 for caliber kit. (bolt and barrel) I will have one someday!

    Or an MP5

  24. sig p210.
    whatever the best colt woodsman is.
    (pops told me to, but i still haven’t.)
    ithaca 1911 in 10mm (they’re gonna. i hope).
    a glokk lower so i can get a mech- tech upper and a soda can launcher.
    a t- bolt in .22mag (or izh biathlon).

  25. DT’s MDR in 308, SCAR Heavy, M1A, maybe another TAVOR, and of course a B.A.R.

    KrissV is an overpriced pistol to me unless it has burst fire, which we’ll never get unless the BATFE is disbanded, the remains set on fire, its ashes sprinkled with holy water and then buried at the four corners of the Earth.

    • If you are willing to buy and have shipped to an FFL, they can already be had for under $800 in stainless if you keep your eyes open. Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore had them for $749 a week ago.

      If you are only willing to buy local, can’t help you there. 😉

  26. As a purveyor of old military firearms, I have always wanted to break into the 21st century by purchasing a currently issued sniper rifle or dmr. Not a custom built lookalike or even a new in box example, we’re talking about an M24 SWS with a camo paint job, U.S. property markings, and wear from use. While it’s not impossible to find these on gunbroker, I do not have the thousands of dollars of disposable income to purchase one yet : (.

  27. I miss my SKS. I’d like to replace it and get a case of companions to go with it at the price I bought mine for. 99 bucks.

  28. So many as I’m financially challenged at the moment-a new Glock anything, Mossberg 630, a decent AR, Ruger 357, etc. I can’t even afford a $200 Taurus(which I know will work) right now…

  29. I’d love a Sig 510, but good luck in the US market for any reasonable price.

    I’d also like the Rolex of machine guns the MG51 to go along with the Rolex of battle riffles.

    Both in original 7.55×55 Swiss please.

  30. If – if! – I could get a HK MP7A1 fully tricked out with silencer, I’d be all over that and write the check tomorrow. Wicked little thing, love it. If only HK loved US consumers back. Unfortunately, it’s a very one-sided affair.

    Second choice would be one of the big boomers, maybe a Barrett, maybe a Steyr (as I am very partial to their products and quality) in .50 cal. Then something like a Wilson or a Kobra in .38 super. All of these tend to be massively over-priced, but at a more reasonable range would be very desirable.

    Third, and this is really more for giggles, if FN would cut the price of their semi-auto repros of the M-249 ( the FN M249S) in half (or better!) I’d certainly buy one.

  31. MP5

    It’s iconic but way too expensive for what it is. Knock-offs run $1,400+.

    If somebody could make a version that looked the same, chambered in 9mm, for half the price, I’d buy two.

  32. A 22lr double action revolver with a 3 inch barrel and a reasonable trigger pull. Why? Because I don’t like to have to trade off between only using standard velocity or high velocity in semi auto’s who are finicky about ammo.

    • Well, sure. Yes. If price is no limit, I’d like the gun that has an airplane built around it. I refer, of course, to the A-10 Warthog firing depleted uranium rounds. Now that’s a gun!

      However, the question was: what would you buy if the price was reduced? I’m not sure the A-10 or the Sherman will ever fall within normal peoples’ price range with a price that is merely “reduced”!

  33. “The KRISS Vector Generation II SDP, pistol variant with no stock and a 5.5” barrel, 9mm and .45ACP feature a new starting price of $1,349.00 and $1,369.00”

    Wonder what the street price will be?

  34. I would by a 357 Korth (5k starting price) revolver and an Accuracy International sniper rifle in 338 Lapua (10k starting price) if I had the money or if they were more accessible monetarily. Alas!, I spent all my money in Sig pistols and Anschutz competition rifles so NO DINERO except for ammo but I am not complaining.

  35. Anything in .50 caliber.

    Also, I’d like a Webley Fosbery.

    As for the Kriss… I’ve said it before, “I’d rather look at genital warts than that horrible thing!”

  36. Price reduction??? You’ve got to be kidding me!!! $1500 for the 16″? That’s the going price at two of the LGS in VB that I frequent.

  37. IIRC, a Colt M16 was something like $750-1000 in 1985.
    Bring back that price, and throw the Hughes Amendment under the bus, and I’ll help bring Colt back to solvency.

  38. Mateba 6 Unica .454 Casull Semi Revolver would another on wish list if price not count ore an belt fed 50 bmg fat mac anti material rifle white suppressor ore an compact 338 yogi hunting rifle (i like “overkill”) …….

    Another custom ideas as project would an 2 stage bullpup shotgun ore rifle in the fn p90 art white suppressor chambered in 12 gauge up to 3,5 inches and 458 socom / 50 beowolf ore 510 whisper …………

    An Serbu AoW white conventional drum mag too

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