BREAKING: High-Speed Chase and Shootout Happening Right Now in San Bernardino

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I’m listening to the radio scanner right now for San Bernardino, and the local police department is currently in a high-speed chase with some suspects in an SUV matching the description of the suspects who fled the mass shooting earlier today. The chase reached speeds of 80 miles per hour, and reports indicate that the suspects were shooting at the police through the back window of the SUV. It ended on a residential street, and it looks like one suspect is down and another in the car with a further suspect detained alive who bailed out of the car during the chase. Live feed here. Make the jump for more pictures.

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This image shows the first feed of the scene with a dead body clearly visible at the bottom. There appears to be an AR-15 rifle near the body and a significant pool of blood.

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Another suspect who was reported to have escaped from the SUV is being sought in a nearby residential neighborhood.

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  1. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Someone just got shot it appears…

  2. avatar Serg says:

    And liberals call gun friendly states like AZ and TX the Wild West…

  3. avatar kevin says:

    All this militarized police equipment doesn’t seem so excessive any more.

    1. avatar Model 31 says:

      Yep. This is what its for.

      1. avatar JasonM says:

        Fortunately this sort of event is very rare. Unfortunately this sort of paramilitary deployment is not.

        1. avatar Model 31 says:

          Mostly agreed.

        2. avatar jwm says:

          Agree with all 3 of you. Cops need this type of gear for these rare instances. But, like SWAT, it should only be rolled out for very specific cases.

        3. avatar Tile floor says:

          Yup as long as it’s used responsibly and not excessively I don’t have a problem with it

        4. avatar Kyle Fletcher says:

          actually this sort of thing is very common, there have been over 350 shooting in the US and we are only at day 336

      2. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

        Oh geez……the po-po fanboys are coming out of the woodwork….

        Nobody said it’s never needed, only that it shouldn’t be handed out to every podunk hamlet, shire and whistle-stop in the land, for use on every piddly warrant served or public nuisance.

        1. avatar foo dog says:

          cut the crap, Jonathon. Take your anti-cop screed to cop block or someplace else, plz.

        2. avatar Tex300BLK says:

          I disagree, I think it is reasonable that this kind of equipment to be available to any law enforcement agency regardless of population size. Yes this kind of crime is usually concentrated in large metro areas but that doesn’t mean those cursed with living in “podunk” towns should have to accept their primary first responders being under gunned if something terrible happened.

          Now, before I get called a po-po fanboy, let me clarify that what should happen (as noted above by others) is that there needs to be more accountability and a more clearly defined rule set around when and how the equipment gets used with penalties for breaching them.

        3. avatar Model 31 says:

          “po-po fanboys” Really?
          No doubt some police use armor and swat when its overkill -“going home at the end of the shift.”

          Live victim in imminent danger = go in with armor.
          Pot plant growing on window sill -no victim or imminent danger = no go in with armor, find another way.

        4. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

          Foo dog? So now the rule is that unless one is 100% rah rah rah cheerleading for the police, then they’re anti-police and must be silence or sent away? FFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUU! You cannot silence me. Nice false dichotomy there. This is why the police aren’t generally well respected: too much Us vs. Them attitude.

          As for your asinine “Max power everywhere all the time” approach, well, that’s just stupid. It’s absurd and foolish to treat every risk identically, whether by probability of occurring, of detection, and/or of severity. Your view would have us deploy an entire Army division to guard a cornfield in Nebraska as readily as we would a contingent guard D.C. It’s a gross imbalance between threat and response. Likewise, kitting up every small suburb with MRAPs and the like is a wasteful deployment of resources.

          You can come at this topic from a myriad professional disciplines: economics, business administrations, operations research, statistics, law enforcement, engineering, you name it. Each will result in the same answer that different situations score different risk profiles and necessitate different countermeasures. That you take such a hostile tone over such a rudimentary principle bespeaks a vinegarish and staggering ignorance.

    2. Watching it on CNN because FOX was not even talking about this. The idiot Tom Fuentes is pissing me off with all the stupid shit he is saying. He said “Everybody is concerned about police militarization, but now you see why we need it with so many assault weapons in the public hands with armor piercing rounds.”
      My wife told me to stop watching it because I am getting so mad.
      Another fucked up thing he said was “Sometimes they just blow up the vehicle that may contain an explosive device” What!? Yeah and destroy as much evidence in the process. What a moron!

      1. avatar Tex300BLK says:

        Could be worse, you could be watching it on Univision where they are lecturing Americans about how such easy access to guns leads to this kind of thing, and that it is incomprehensible how we cant figure out how to do something about it.

        1. Univision aired Obama’s comments too?

    3. avatar James Lee says:

      It still does. I’d rather have sporadic mass shootings than SWAT team breaching people’s doors for prank calls. Cops are not meant to be like this. It’s a police service, not a police force. But at the end of the day, it’s not the guns, but the people. It’s the militarized training the cops are receiving these days that is threatening our lives. But cops still don’t need AFVs, no apologies. Officer safety? Well, how about taxpayer safety? Don’t wanna be on the mission without armored vehicles and NOD when responding to a call? Quit the job, no one’s begging them. SWAT teams should only be available on the city level, and deployed only in situations like this. There is no need for SWAT team at every PD, they’re chalk line drawers anyway, unless the incident is protracted like this one.

    4. avatar Stuki Moi says:

      “All this militarized police equipment doesn’t seem so excessive any more.”

      Only in the context of noone else being allowed to have any equipment. the correct, and cheap, way of dealing with three guys/gals trying to shoot up 30, is for the 30 to shoot back. Not to disarm the 30, only to rob them of all they’ve ever made to buy missile batteries for the 30-minute late crew.

      I’m not saying it’s not appropriate for cops to have heavier weapons. There are limits to how prepared to defend oneself one can expect everyone to be, and commuting in an Mrap dressed in level 4 armor “just in case”, is probably above that limit for most people.

      But the response to an attack must always start with those most likely to be where the attack occurs. Which is, definitionally, those attacked. Until the general population is properly armed, using their helplessness as an excuse to further arm those who are already well equipped, is more likely to be a threat to the public, than an aid in those rare cases when even well armed citizens could use some.

  4. avatar COtto says:

    http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web

    http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/8710/web

    At least one subject in custody
    Another dude in the back of the SUV, still breathing with an AR strapped to his chest
    Supposed IEDs at at least one, possibly more locations
    At least one officer transported to hospital

    1. avatar Adam says:

      Although I use that website frequently police and fire have encrypted channels to use during high risk situations like this.

      1. avatar Brentondadams says:

        They seem to be to busy. They are pretty clear about who, what and where right now

        1. avatar Adam says:

          I can only refer to how it works in my county. Anytime there is a barricaded subject or confidential info needs to be talked about the encrypted channels are used. I work in EMS/Fire and we have three different private channels to use and so does law enforcement.

      2. avatar Brentondadams says:

        They keep taking about calling each other back on cell phones. Occasionally someone will break in and just spell it all it out. Addresses, names, everything. Sounds like their just searching now. It’s quiet

  5. avatar ed says:

    http://i64.tinypic.com/2zxqywm.jpg
    Loading up into their tactical skid steer loader

  6. avatar Out_Fang_Thief says:

    Did anybody notice the censorship of the helicopter video feed? When the video first came in, it looked like there was a body in the street, with a pool of blood coming from it, and a rifle a few feet away. Then the helicopter maneuvered itself and placed a small tree between its camera and the scene to block the view of the body, and rifle, laying on the road. WTF? Is that what passes for news coverage? Every goddamn day the media insults our intelligence with their liberal bullshit!

    1. avatar NJ2AZ says:

      they also just said expressly if the 2nd body they just pulled out comes into view, they will cut away

      for the childrens!

    2. avatar Tex300BLK says:

      Seriously? Go to Liveleak if you get off on seeing someone’s brains splattered on the sidewalk. Some people have kids who are still awake during the evening news.

  7. avatar barnbwt says:

    Really hoping it isn’t just a handful of women delivering papers this time…CA police have been known to get a little trigger happy in these deals. Condolences for all victims involved, and may death come quickly to the perpetrators (but not too quickly). And may our glorious leaders on both sides of the aisle be thwarted in their inevitable attempts to exploit this event for political power.

  8. avatar NYC2AZ says:

    Apparently a picture of the one they caught alive in cuffs on the ground.

    http://m.imgur.com/cR7yrp8

    1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

      Disregard the last. Bad info.

  9. avatar Ralph says:

    Two dead shooters, a third might be holed up in a nearby home.

    This doesn’t seem like run-of-the-mill terrorism to me. It seems more personal.

    1. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

      From the target perspective yes because it looks like a typical deranged, Disgruntle current or former employee but how did he convince his two buddies to help? This incident is a departure from the typical mass shooting pattern.

      1. avatar MattG says:

        Was thinking along the same lines. The mentally ill usually work alone for fear that they are going to get found out. Other than the Columbine shooters it’s very rate to find two nut bags working together let alone 3+. These guys aren’t crazy but they have some sort of axe to grind. Whether its foreign or domestic, I think it’s pretty clear that it was terrorism.

      2. avatar SD3 says:

        That’s the power of Aloha Snackbar.

    2. avatar ANgryaz says:

      I know that area not a high value target agreed personal

      1. avatar pyratemime says:

        Value is subjective. Someone looking for a soft target and huge horror factor may find very high value in a government building where they may hit disabled people.

        If this is terrorism then every school and day care in the country better take notice and prepare.

  10. avatar Pete S. says:

    Pretty sure not Muslim terrorists. Probably workplace related shooting.

    1. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

      Three angry employees get together?

    2. avatar FedUp says:

      Three murderously disgruntled workers?
      How often does that happen?

      1. avatar Pete S. says:

        True, but how often do Jihadists target a healthcare company xmas party? Someone got fired and grabbed his brothers or someone at the healthcare company denied someone’s mom/daughter/son/etc coverage.

        1. avatar DaveL says:

          The combination of the target selection and level of organization doesn’t make much sense.

  11. avatar Southern Cross says:

    What are the odds the surviving suspects are reported DOA at the police station?

    Or if alive, they are kept in-communicado and eventually disappear into the criminal justice system?

    I bet this is the incident a number of parties have been waiting for and drooling over.

  12. avatar pod says:

    One disgruntled guy, sure. But he convinced two others to go in on it, and maintain total operational security while they planned it out? Sure, you could get three people together who feel the same about the issue, but once the plans became mere talk and started materializing into “Well, we’re gonna do this!”, one of parties involved would definitely have second thoughts and either back out, or rat his pals out.

    1. avatar Troutbum5 says:

      Could be that the guy in the meeting was doing recon, then went back out and got the rest of the team. Maybe drug cartel targeting a couple of officials?

      1. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

        Not exactly the kind of demographic that does business with the cartels. If it was one specific person they were after then why take out the room? They could catch him alone.

        Let’s review the options again

        Disgruntle employee: He doesn’t need a team. He runs in with his Glock and shoots a bunch of people.

        Cartel: Already explained.

        Terrorists: Plausible tactics, implausible target.

        Did the hit team that couldn’t shoot straight hit the wrong location?

        1. avatar jwm says:

          Maybe they hit the wrong place. Dumber things have happened. Or maybe they went to the right place, got spooked for whatever reason and then just hit the first easy target they found.

        2. avatar Troutbum5 says:

          At this pont, nothing really makes sense. It won’t until LE gets everything sorted out. And writes the narrative they want us to believe.

        3. avatar S_Domini says:

          You missed a possible option:

          Anti-govt extremists targeting a gov’t / Obamacare building

        4. avatar Five says:

          Yup, that is a possibility. But, that one seems a bit odd as-well. If they were out of state (Utah), why would they pick, and how would they know about, as San Bernardino city employee Christmas party. Can’t rule it out, but there are just as many oddities with that theory as any of the others, definitely a strange pattern for the last several generations in the US.

        5. avatar SD3 says:

          Why “implausible”? A target- rich environment with victims incapable of fighting back. Sounds like as good a target as any for Islam.

        6. avatar tdiinva (Now in Wisconsin) says:

          #S_domimi

          Your wet dream.

          But since we are into wild ass speculation I will give you some more plausible wild ass speculation SOCAL probably has the largest population of Iranian expats in the country. What if one of the county officials was a thorn in the regime”s side? What if he was an FBI informant within the community and got compromised. This squares the circle of the personal, target location and the apparent professionalism of the hit team. MOIS, the Iranian intelligence service, has carried out many high profile hits on people it doesn’t like around the world. If Muslim names start popping up and there is a dead Iranian among the victims I will be going with hit in an anti-regime activist.

        7. avatar S_Domini says:

          tdiinva

          I live in LA. In Beverly Hills. I know all about the Persians in Socal and they are not in SanB, they are in my neighborhood. And your story is absurd.

          And my wet dream is for these types of things to never happen again.

        8. avatar tdiinva (now in Wisconsin) says:

          Absurd? Perhaps, but no more than your white Christian antigovernment terrorists shooting up healthcare workers over Obamacare. That was the entire point of my retort. Consider yourself punked.

          And please spare me the moral preening. Given that it happened you damn well wanted it to be domestic terrorists.

    2. avatar MIkeP says:

      My hunch is there were four, not three, possibly resulting in confusion over “3 suspects, two dead, one in custody, one possibly holed-up in a church”. Why four? Three shooters and someone in the driver’s seat keeping the get-away vehicle running and ready to bolt.

  13. avatar Adub says:

    I just don’t see how three people would target a center that works with mentally handicapped people.

    1. avatar Five says:

      Two most likely are terrorist or mafia/cartel hit. It seems like they targeted a conference room being used by city employees (not the medical facility employees or patients). Given that, I’m leaning towards mafia/cartel. Still, little weird reports floating around that makes it impossible to rule out terrorism, though if it was ISIS, they’s have already claimed responsibility, instead they’re just enjoying the show.

      1. avatar S_Domini says:

        If it was ISIS why wouldn’t they have hit 3rd St. Promenade in Santa Monica? More visible, more people, more known. San Bernardino isn’t exactly on the map of most jihadis.

    2. avatar Refugee camp occupant says:

      Because it’s the softest of soft targets. Guaranteed no one was carrying there.

      It’s why they didn’t shoot up a gun store or Boot Barn.

    3. avatar TravisP says:

      You’ll lose your mind trying to understand savages

  14. avatar John E> says:

    My initial thought was cartel, but with pipe bombs i’m gonna go with jihadi. Social workers and the mentally disable make super soft targets. Most mh centers are gun fee zones.

  15. avatar Another Robert says:

    Terrorist-wise, what’s “high-value” about an indoor concert–except there are a lot of easy targets there? It would appear to be the same here. Your typical crazy operates alone, doesn’t have an escape plan, and kills himself when the cops show up. This doesn’t fit that pattern at all.

    1. avatar Five says:

      True, but then the odds of the attack coinciding with a one-off Christmas party in a rented conference room seem long where-as the concert hall was filled with regularly occurring events. Seems like if it was terrorists looking for a body count and they had a team of three, they would have waited for Star-Wars in two weeks and hit a gun-free-zone movie theater.

      1. avatar Jeff the Griz says:

        My movie theater is not gun free. I will still waiting a few days to see my movie.

    2. avatar marco says:

      Because it was in Paris. They also attempted to his a soccer game that was well-protected.

      What is NOT part of a REAL terrorist MO is hitting nowheresville. Some radicalized locals may hit their own targets, but organized ones, even though SB is 200,000 people, isn’t a “known” target, like big cities. Look for coastal cities, major population centers of the state, historical cities. No San Bernardino, that’s silly- it doesn’t get the same press coverage.

      1. avatar Marco says:

        Substitute “press coverage” for “emotional impact” and “symbolic imagery” of hitting a marquis city.

  16. avatar foo dog says:

    good LA area AM station, here: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/knx-1070-newsradio

    Its been my experience, with SoCal wildfires, power outages, etc
    After scanner freqs, (which may be hard to interpret lacking experience)
    that local AM radio stations provide best real time info for lay person, from listeners calling in, their own traffic helo updates, and the hosts tend to actively collate information from local sources faster than the clueless LameStreamMedia.

    YMMV.

  17. avatar TravisP says:

    The name Farooq Saeed is getting passed around, but not much else other than this possible name

    1. avatar Former Water Walker says:

      Yes Travis-reported on O’Reilly right now. THIS looks very islamic to ME. Aloha snackbar…without the chant. Well see-or not…”workplace BS”.

  18. avatar foo dog says:

    Here is overhead from local ABC affiliate traffic helo, streaming live.
    Earlier they were talking about not focusing on a body on the ground across from the SUV as it was too “graphic”.

    http://abc7.com/live/

  19. avatar foo dog says:

    Waiting on a scheduled 1645 PST local LA Sheriff news conference- running late:
    http://player.radio.com/listen/station/knx-1070-newsradio

  20. avatar Jason says:

    Oh God. Has anyone seen the tweets from the Democrats? Close the gun show loophole! No more online sales! Blaaaaaaagh! No guns! Lol. Sorry, I feel bad for these victims. But, Cali has the stupidest gun laws in the US. And these suspects still seemed to commit the crime. The only thing the laws did? Prevent these victims from defending themselves if they so chose to own and carry a firearm on their person. But they were stripped of that right and decision by the liberals. So the liberals have this on their hands. Banning guns or whatever you wanna call it, it does nothing. It just leaves the innocent at the mercy of people with no mercy. Today was just another example.

  21. avatar Don says:

    “looks like the FBI will be taking this over pretty soon”

  22. avatar foo dog says:

    Search warrants being served per CBS: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/show/live-video-2/

    1. avatar SD3 says:

      Ooooooh, next they’ll convene a grand jury.

  23. avatar Model 31 says:

    I think not cartel…publicity is bad for business

  24. avatar Royal Tony says:

    Not one to drag out the Jump to Conclusions mat, but I have a feeling we would know damn well by this point if it was a “White Christian Militia Extremist with an NRA hat and a TTAG coffee mug”. The media just can’t contain themselves when it comes to shame-bludgeoning any non democrats.

    Oh and don’t look to Reuters for updates if you have a heart condition. Every update sounds like a presser from CSGV: “So far in 2015, there have been more than 350 shootings in which four or more people died, according to the crowd-sourced website shootingtracker.com, which keeps a running tally of mass shootings.” for one.

  25. avatar foo dog says:

    People in the area east and south of Mountain View and San Bernardino here:
    https://www.google.com.br/maps/place/Mountain+View+Ave,+San+Bernardino,+CA+92408,+USA/@34.0759378,-117.2428259,15z/data=!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x80dcabbd83ca25bf:0x657c55f0ecb795e2!2sMountain+View+Ave,+San+Bernardino,+CA+92408,+USA!3b1!3m1!1s0x80dcabbd83ca25bf:0x657c55f0ecb795e2

    are being asked to stay indoors. Streets closed off.
    Redlands is where the search warrants are being served- south and east.

  26. avatar foo dog says:

    County presser on now:
    http://abc7.com/live/23340/

    two dead suspects at scene of SUV stop, one male, one female

    1. avatar foo dog says:

      San Bernardino PD Chief did a good job on presser. Next one will be around 9PM PST, he says.

  27. avatar DerryM says:

    Two Suspects dead. One Male, One Female. Third Suspect detained. Residence in Redlands, CA under Police/FBI investigation/ NO ID’s on suspects released yet.

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