Quote of the Day: Any Killing is an Act of Terrorism

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“Any killing of a human being should be an act of terrorism. I think we need to control our gun law in this country. No matter what, any killing of any human being is an act of terrorism.” – Salihin Kondoker whose wife was wounded in San Bernardino yesterday in San Bernardino Shooting: Suspects Left Baby Daughter With Grandma [at nbcnews.com]

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  1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

    So, that includes:

    Killing in self defense?

    Killing by accident?

    Killing by The State?

    Mercy killing?

    1. avatar thx855 says:

      Thou shalt not kill I guess. Mercy killing? Maybe the Christmas sweaters were really bad and he thought he was doing them a favor. Personally I think someone spiked his Christmas nog and that set him off. Gonna be a strange life for that kid they left behind. Is it still 3 shooters? In any case, marksmanship. Only 14 fatalities? Were they shooting in the air like you see them do at weddings? Maybe that was it, they were celebrating in their cultural style. Oh well, time to invest in the iiia on the body, plate carrier in the trunk and a trunk monkey.

      1. avatar Mark N. says:

        The triage videos from yesterday reflected lots of leg wounds. So somebody was shooting low.

        1. avatar Joe R. says:

          The tactic is called “herding” it wounds and scares the target to bunch up in choke points for killing (shooting center mass) while reducing the herd’s coalescence with the people on the ground (and overall). It reduces the chance of a coalition counter-attack by the out-numbering target field.

          In response to those the OP was talking about, what about the fwads that holds your hands behind your back while someone is killing you? Terrorism? Or is it just POS SOP from the evil blue house of liberal (D)? Or both?

  2. avatar Anonymous says:

    Lets just redefine terrorism to be whatever we want yea?

    Terrorism: (n) the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    1. avatar CZ Guy says:

      Well that would make Hillery one of the worst…

    2. avatar Anonymous says:

      Well… Terrorism is a ridiculous propaganda tool as well. The founding fathers of this country were all terrorists according to today’s definition. Freedom fighters = terrorists.

      1. avatar Kyle says:

        Would have to disagree there. The Founders were not at all about killing innocent people and torturing and so forth. They were men committed to order and liberty and who understood the dangers of insurrection and terrorism to a free society.

        1. avatar Anonymous says:

          The founding fathers were most certainly insurrectionists.
          Insurrection: (n) a violent uprising against an authority or government.

          Definition of Terrorism:
          Terrorism: (n) the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

          The colonists (many supported by some founding fathers) made political and commercial attacks for political aims. The whole concept of the rebellion was to force the hand of the British or have the British release control of the colonies to the new american government (a win by intimidation). The former occurred rather than the latter and a war was fought.

          Your definition of terrorism (“The Founders were not at all about killing innocent people and torturing and so forth.”) is not the common definition today.

          Back then, nobody even used the word “terrorism.” Terrorism is a political term of recent birth:

          https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=on&content=terrorism&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cterrorism%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bterrorism%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BTerrorism%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BTERRORISM%3B%2Cc0

    3. avatar Sexual Tyrannosaurus says:

      So that makes all military forces terrorists, as per Clausewitz. Which is correct according to the etymology, “terrorism” was first used to describe military attacks on civilian targets in warfare, before governments redefined the word.

  3. avatar Craig says:

    Last time I checked, terrorism is a politically motivated attack for a cause. Kind of hard to figure out a political motive for most murders, like dead prostitutes, gang shootings and infanticide.

    Words have meanings; why is this so hard for people to understand?

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      Control the words, control the “understanding.”

      The Progressives are trying very hard to redefine “terrorism.”

  4. avatar Madcap_Magician says:

    When everything is terrorism, nothing is terrorism…

    1. avatar John L. says:

      So … If everyone has guns, no one has guns?

      Outstanding! An AR and a Beretta M9 for every citizen! Then no one will be armed!

      /antilogic

      1. avatar GusMac says:

        Terrorism is an act, not a physical object. The point I believe he was making is that once you label everything as terrorism then the word is meaningless. It is already nearing meaningless at the rate the far left are going. I fail to see a lack of logic in his statement. I only see it in comparing an act to an object.

      2. avatar Yellow Devil says:

        No…just no.

        He is saying that if the term “Terrorism” is applied so haphazardly and to every and all situation that involved some form of violence, then the actual, legal and political meaning is rendered moot.

  5. avatar CZ Guy says:

    Sorry for his loss, but doesn’t understand freedom or liberty.

    1. avatar SD3 says:

      …and because, we all know California does absolutely nothing to deliberately control how, who, what, when, where, or if firearms are sold.

      1. avatar CZ Guy says:

        Worked out well for them didn’t it?

  6. avatar John L. says:

    My heart goes out to him – I don’t know what I’d do if I lost my wife like this, I can’t even imagine what he must be going through right now. Nor, honestly,do I want to try.

    I understand that right now he’s likely full of grief, despair, confusion and rage. Which is why a responsible journalist would give some space and time for some rationality to return rather than vamping for quotes immediately.

    1. avatar Charles says:

      He did not lose his wife, she was shot in the arm and is recovering. I would be relieved and pissed at this point.

  7. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    Control the gun laws? What does that mean?
    I’m guessing that the two “muslim pacifists” broke a California gun law or two in their “workplace violence” act. Not to mention the pipe bomb issues.

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      Gun control control. It’s a restriction on who can propose gun control, how much they can propose, etc. Maybe a one gun control statement per month restriction. Or a ban on high capacity gun control organizations. Or on (gun rights) assault groups like CSVG.

  8. avatar John says:

    I am sorry for his loss. His loss, however does not make him an expert on anything, except for maybe emotional reaction.

    That said, I totally agree with his statement as quoted, ” …we need to control our gun law…”

    Gun laws are totally out of control. The ever growing body of laws that serve only to disarm the law abiding create ever growing pools of potential victims. It’s time to write laws that allow those willing to take action, to be prepared to take action, should the need arise.

  9. avatar Shire-man says:

    I guess the major fault of the gun control set is they believe people follow laws or that all the guns will magically disappear and never come back? It’s the only way somebody can conclude that an armed defender is a worse option than a decree banning attackers from attacking.

    What happens when you declaw an outdoor cat? It gets eaten. So either stop declawing outdoor cats or lock all the cats up indoors for their safety.
    P.S. don’t declaw your cat. It’s an f’d up thing to do.

    Too bad they had to call people with guns to come help them out. A lot of time was lost and a lot of people died while they waited for others to do what they should have done for themselves.

  10. avatar neiowa says:

    “Salihin” you live in the US but don’t have a clue? Arm your wife of leave her defenseless? Leave her in the cesspool of Kalifornia?

  11. avatar PeterK says:

    The circle is now complete. I hereby declare the term terrorism to have exactly zero meaning.

    Find another word, people!

    1. avatar GusMac says:

      Completely agree. A number of isms started out barely realistic to start with but now the extinction of meaning for once (and still sometimes) valid isms seems to be increasing thanks to the screeching of Constitution denying Statists.

    2. avatar Mack Bolan says:

      I’m going with Islamed.

      Islamed = Being shot, stabbed or blown up by a practitioner of the religion of peace.

  12. avatar Salvatore says:

    And here is a perfect example of why gun free utopias like California are they way they are. The people actually think this way. They refuse to take responsibility for their own safety so they will endlessly sell their liberty. Unbelievable. These fools are completely unphased by the reality that terrorist attacks have recently taken place in some of the strictest anti-gun nations on earth. But, what good are facts when you are afraid to embrace your own security. “Protect me nanny state by denying me my constitutional rights.”

  13. avatar DavidinNC says:

    Something just doesn’t sit right with me when the loved one of a victim – whether said victim survives a tragedy or not – feels compelled to jump in front of a news camera as soon as possible. We’ve all been guilty of knee-jerk reactions here and there, but maybe these folks should make their family, and not the national media nor the national public, their priority.

    1. avatar Sprocket says:

      It’s probably the result of the need to do “something” about the attack on his loved one. In more clear thinking societies the men of the village would be retrieving machetes from their huts and getting ready to take care of business. Since that is not an option for us, we jump in front of the news cameras.

  14. avatar Avenger says:

    Peasant 1: We have found a terrorist, may we burn her?
    (cheers)
    Vladimir: How do you known she is a terrorist?
    P2: She looks like one!
    V: Bring her forward
    (advance)
    Woman: I’m not a terrorist! I’m not a terrorist!
    V: ehh… but you are dressed like one.
    W: They dressed me up like this!
    All: naah no we didn’t… no.
    W: And this isn’t my Keffiyeh, it’s a false one.
    (V lifts up carrot)
    V: Well?
    P1: Well we did do the Keffiyeh
    V: The Keffiyeh?
    P1: …And the guns, but she is a terrorist!
    (all: yeah, burn her burn her!)
    V: Did you dress her up like this?
    P1: No! (no no… no) Yes. (yes yeah) a bit (a bit bit a bit) But she has got a beard!
    (P3 points at beard)
    V: What makes you think she is a terrorist?
    P2: Well, she looked at me!
    V: She looked at you?!
    (P2 pause & look around)
    P2: I got better.
    (pause)
    P3: Burn her anyway! (burn her burn her burn!)
    (king walks in)
    V: There are ways of telling whether she is a terrorist.
    P1: Are there? Well then tell us! (tell us)
    V: Tell me… what do you do with terrorists?
    P3: Burn’em! Burn them up! (burn burn burn)
    V: What do you burn apart from terrorists?
    P1: More terrorists! (P2 nudge P1)
    (pause)
    P3: Wood!
    V: So, why do terrorists burn?
    (long pause)
    P2: Cuz they’re made of… wood?
    V: Gooood.
    (crowd congratulates P2)
    V: So, how do we tell if she is made of wood?
    P1: Build a bridge out of her!
    V: Ahh, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
    P1: Oh yeah…
    V: Does wood sink in water?
    P1: No
    P3: No. It floats!
    P1: Let’s throw her into the bog! (yeah yeah ya!)
    V: What also floats in water?
    P1: Bread
    P3: Apples
    P2: Very small rocks
    (V looks annoyed)
    P1: Cider
    P3: Grape gravy
    P1: Cherries
    P3: Mud
    King: A Duck!
    (all look and stare at king)
    V: Exactly! So, logically…
    P1(thinking): If she ways the same as a duck… she’s made of wood!
    V: And therefore,
    (pause & think)
    P3: A terrorist! (P1: a terrorist)(P2: a terrorist)(all: a terrorist!)
    V: We shall use my largest scales.

    1. avatar Bob says:

      This is why you waterboard suspected terrorists. To see if they float or sink.

  15. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    Police are a terrorist organization. Got it.

    1. avatar Sexual Tyrannosaurus says:

      Waco PD fits the bill.

  16. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    Sigh.

    No matter what, any killing of any human being is a tragedy. He is deep in personal tragedy and fear of it getting worse. Perfectly natural. Yet not all tragedy and fear is terrorism or frankly worthy of re-ordering the world, when the quick cure is worse.

    Sadly, there is half the truth to his statement. Any killing of any human being probably scares him some, and probably scares everyone some, and probably should. So, all killing = terrorism… just, no.

    I got a hangnail, which scares me, so terrorism!

    Sigh. Because terrorism is scary, does not mean all scary things are terrorism. Nor does our bereaved proclaimer have the right to live in a world free of scary things.

    Hes emotional.right now, and just wants the badness to go away. So, he will grasp at any power word that might help. And the agenda-mongers will flog his quote and his grief.

    Its not reporting, it is advocacy, exploiting a man in the middle of a tragedy. Screw them.

    1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Some time people dying is not even close to being a tragedy. Anyone going to shed a tear if Cali decided to off Charles Manson.

  17. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Breaking news! The allah couple were armed to the teeth. They did NOT have the dough to purchase what they had. DUH…

  18. avatar WayneMHK says:

    Why isn’t this guy walking the streets of Chicago with that message?

  19. avatar Brian in WI says:

    So the cops that killed the terrorists are also terrorists. Makes sense…

  20. avatar Stuki Moi says:

    There already is a word for killing. It’s called, drumroll, killing…. We don’t really need another one, do we?

    If the World Trace Center gets blown up in a forest, and noone’s there to die from it, is it still terrorism?

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