Question of the Day: Would You Take the “Pledge Against Gun Violence?” [VIDEO]

“Last week, more than six hundred voices echoed across the gymnasium of St. Augustine High School in New Orleans, Louisiana,” thetrace.org reports. “They belonged to students gathered to recite a pledge, but not the familiar ode to the stars and stripes. This one was a pledge against illegal drug use gun violence.” Sorry, I couldn’t resist. Hey, I could have put unprotected sex. Or drunk driving. Nodding off in math class? Anyway, in its unending search for PR, the civilian disarmament complex has revived an ancient student pledge (original name unknown). So, what good is it? would you take it? Here it is . . .

I will never bring a gun to school. 

I will never use a gun to settle a personal problem or dispute.

I will use my influence with friends to keep them from using guns to settle disputes.

My individual choices and actions, when multiplied by those of young people throughout the country, will make a difference.

Together, by honoring this pledge, we can reverse the violence and grow up in safety. 

The Student Pledge Against Gun Violence

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  1. avatar blahpony says:

    I can almost feel the warm fuzzy safety from here.

  2. avatar Dustin says:

    I would not take this oath.

    Some of it is common sense, no need to oath-ify it…

    Some of it opposes common sense…

    Some of it seems to exist in defiance of reality…

    Overall, it appear to be written by a very confused, or very stupid, person.

    1. avatar Patrulje says:

      I went to military school and could not make it past the 1st pledge.

  3. avatar Chip in Florida says:

    OK.

    But I can still own the gun, right? I just can’t use it to settle a personal dispute if I take this oath.

    1. avatar Joe Liberty says:

      Depends on how you define “dispute”.

  4. avatar Another Robert says:

    Well, I don’t go to school, I won’t commit to not using a gun to solve a problem as long as being attacked by someone intent on causing me or mine harm can be classified as a “problem”, I won’t expect my friends to make such a commitment, and I can only pledge regarding my own actions, not someone else’s. So no, I guess I wouldn’t take that one.

  5. avatar jans says:

    So knives, hammers, baseball bats, fists and feet are okay, right?

    1. avatar Anonymous says:

      Yes death by other forms of violence is fine – as long as it isn’t “gun violence.” Bat violence, brick violence, knife violence, etc – all those are acceptable and no oath is needed.

      1. avatar Chrispy says:

        But hey, at least nobody will get shot.

        (Sarcasm)

      2. avatar Bob says:

        I don’t know that the iwb kydex brick holster is really going to catch on. I think I will OC my brick

        1. avatar Kapeltam says:

          Roman bricks are fairly thin. You might be able to iwb one of those if you find one that’s short.

  6. avatar Patrulje says:

    I promise not to shoot anyone that doesn’t deserve it.

  7. avatar Kapeltam says:

    I got a better one.

    I pledge to take my gun everywhere I legally can. I pledge to use it to stop any one trying to kill or serious injure myself or my loved ones. I pledge to inform my friends and use my influence to support and promote their exercising of the second amendment protected rights. Our combined actions will see that our rights to defend and protect ourselves and others from all threats will ensure freedom for generations to come.

    1. avatar Mk10108 says:

      Well done.

    2. avatar VTAero says:

      “I will never resort to violence at school.
      I will never use violence or coercion to settle a personal problem or dispute.
      I will use my influence with friends to keep them from using violence or coercion to settle disputes.
      My individual choices and actions, when multiplied by those of young people throughout the country, will make a difference.
      Together, by honoring this pledge, we can reverse the violence and grow up in safety.
      The Student Pledge Against Violence/The student pledge for nonagression”

      A few very minor changes to the original… If I took pledges or believed the mattered I’d take this pledge, it’s essentially the nonagression axiom in pledge form. You actually have to sign something similar to join the libertarian party.

  8. avatar PeterC says:

    I’m sure that’s very nice, Dear.

  9. avatar Joe-in-NC says:

    Need to get the gang bangers to recite that too, then it will be all unicorns and rainbows.

  10. avatar Ralph says:

    There’s nothing wrong with this pledge — for children. But any adults who feel a need to take this pledge automatically revert to childhood and have to go back to thumb-sucking to relieve their stress.

    1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

      Or go on to college, find their safe place, curl up in a ball and whimper “mama”…

  11. avatar dh34 says:

    So was this some sort of mandatory school thing? if so someone needs to be called on carpet. I don’t want my kids doing any sort of pledge that isn’t the Pledge of Allegiance.

  12. avatar Tile floor says:

    If the other party in the dispute pulls a gun on me, you’re damn straight I’ll use a gun to finish said dispute.

  13. avatar Joe R. says:

    F O R
    For-violence.

    The 2nd Amendment is the acknowledgement of the right to the means of violence against your a-hole neighbors who bunch up and call themselves “government” and say you don’t have any rights.

    hella big violence

  14. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    +1 Ralph. Man I’m glad my kids are out of public school…

  15. avatar Ian says:

    Lost me on the first line. I used to take a gun to school every day. Not much time between last bell and sundown. It’s just not reasonable to waste 30 minutes going home first during hunting season.

  16. avatar dph says:

    Now if they can get UT students to take the same pledge for dildos. It’s time to stop the dildo violence. Makes as much sense as the gun pledge.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      I really have no problem with the UT students carrying dildos as long as they follow EXACTLY the same rules as students opting to concealed carry under the new Texas permission.

      * Student must be 21 years of age or older.
      * Pass a background check.
      * Get a government permission slip including a minimum of 8 hours training and demonstrated proficiency in their use.
      * Always carry your dildo concealed. (Where is personal option, but I have a suggestion…)
      * Gun Free Zones on campus are also Dildo Free Zones and you must secure your dildo in a safe location before entering.

      1. avatar Chrispy says:

        I thought you were going with the other rules for a minute there…

        Always assume it’s loaded… Keep your finger off the trigger… Never point it at something you’re not willing to destroy

  17. avatar GunGeek says:

    St. Augstine is a private parochial school. Most of the public schools here in CA have declined to permit Eddy Eagle or similar gun safety programs. In fairness, Common Core and other demands leave little time for non-scholastic essentials.

    CA public high school scores have gone from among the nation’s highest to among the lowest. Meanwhile the Santa Clara County Office of Education worries about salad bars and removal of junk food vending machines. Abysmal student test score and drop-out rates testify to their priorities.

  18. avatar CoolBreeze says:

    Never is a long time.
    Define “dispute”.
    The last two paragraphs are BS.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      As with most Lib/Prog efforts at addressing violence (of any sort) this totally fails to differentiate between criminal violence and self defense.

      A pledge recited under duress by immature students with no real understanding of the issues is ridiculous security theater and I’m reasonably (100%) sure that students involved in gangs, criminal activity or with some psychopathic intent or sociopathic grudge will pay absolutely no attention to these frivolous promises if they decide they need a gun to make a point on campus.

  19. avatar Boyd says:

    I can’t take this pledge. I’m homeschooled so yeah I think I broke every rule. As far as personal disputes my family has a little competition every now and then to see how accurate and fast we can shoot the targets to see when rule of law is no more who gets to hold the gun. And my friends join in to so yeah I’d say I encourage my friends to settle this personal dispute with a gun.

  20. avatar Defens says:

    I would not take this silly oath,
    I would not stunt my mental growth,
    I would not take it, Sir or Ma’am,
    I would not take it, Sam I Am!

    1. avatar ACP_arms says:

      Bravo…

    2. avatar Dustin says:

      I will not speak it here or there
      I will not speak it anywhere!
      I will not speak this stupid sham
      I will not speak it Sam I Am!

  21. avatar CZ Guy says:

    Kinda like the dim wit local 16 year old chick that started a no text and driveing pledge at the local school. A wonderful idea. Mom and Dad were so proud, the local news paper lauded her efforts. Then she went and killed someone with her car, while she was texting…

  22. avatar Shire-man says:

    I don’t take pledges unless somebody is paying me then I take the pledge, cash the check and promptly disregard any pledge made.

  23. avatar pg2 says:

    How about they pledge to never use real or fake guns to make ridiculous anti-gun videos?

  24. avatar James in Florida says:

    I’d love to but since i live in a ” stupid oath ” free zone.I just can’t.
    Maybe some other time.

  25. avatar Jack says:

    But knives, and steel pipes are still OK for settling personal disputes?

    Her’s my pledge “Don’t start nothin, won’t be nothin”

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Or how about this one:

      “Don’t fvck with me and you will never know I’m carrying a concealed pistol.”

  26. avatar SkyMan77 says:

    Reminds me of MADD and DARE… I wouldn’t and neither will my Kids… Apples and Oranges as they say… Guns are not a crutch they’re a tool…. We can thank Holder for this tripe…. I think the Eddie the Eagle campaign has it right… This is brainwashing and I find it dangerously irresponsible…

  27. avatar EJQ says:

    What would happen to the Rifle team at my kids’ H.S.?

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Just went back and checked and sure enough, the pledge only speaks to “guns”. No mention of rifles or pistols or grenades or RPGs or….

      That’s a bit sexist if you ask me. “This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun.” But brings up the question, for the girls, does a dildo qualify as a “gun” by default or only if it is a smoothbore?

  28. avatar Corodon says:

    Wait, if I claim I can ring a steel target at 1200 meters and one of my shooting buddies calls BS, how am I supposed to resolve this personal dispute without using a gun?

  29. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

    I will always reserve the right to initiate violence, with whatever tool might be at hand, upon whomever I might deem necessary, at my sole discretion. I say this because I’ve learned my bitter lessons from engaging in such silliness when I was younger.

  30. avatar I'mRonBurgundy? says:

    Oh I’m completely committed to reducing violence. That’s why I carry.

  31. avatar Katy says:

    What about professional disputes? Are those still ok? If you disagree with a grade you got, that isn’t a personal dispute at all.

    Although, I suppose the first line means that the issue needs to be resolved in the parking lot and this away from the campus cop.

    It seems to me that it would be prudent to let teachers at this school CC.

  32. avatar C.S. says:

    My concealed carry pledge speaks for itself.

  33. avatar Roymond says:

    I remember settling an issue with guns.

    The argument was over who should get the first try at fixing a piece of machinery. We emptied our guns, set them on our laps, got blindfolded, and the first to disassemble and reassemble (correctly, of course) won.

  34. avatar General Zod says:

    “I will never use a gun to settle a personal problem or dispute.”

    I’d say an armed intruder in the house is something of a personal problem that should perhaps be solved with a firearm. It could also be seen as a dispute, as trespassing, breaking and entering, and burglary are something of a sore spot with me…

    Just as one example of the idiocy of this “pledge”.

  35. avatar Aaron Clark says:

    Sounds a lot like the pledge taken by university students in Europe after World War One. The pledge to never take up arms in a arm conflict no matter what the situation. Worked wonders back then right?

  36. avatar Roymond says:

    My buddy says he already requires his guns to be nonviolent. They’re told to stay where he puts them, and if they get up and run around and break things they get a time-out in solitary.

  37. avatar Mikele says:

    We used to recite the pledge of allegiance. ?

    1. avatar Omer Baker says:

      Me too, but since learning the history of the pledge of allegiance and thinking about what it says I can’t in good conscience use it as an oath.

  38. avatar "lee n. field" says:

    The did something like this at my kids’ school, back in the ’90s. Parents complained pretty darn quick. My daughter refused. Made me proud.

  39. avatar thatsomeguy says:

    Not many whites taking the oath

  40. avatar Phil LA says:

    I already took the pledge. But my state calls it a concealed carry permit.

  41. avatar Silver says:

    I will never intrude upon another’s Constitutional rights.

    I will never demand another endanger himself on my behalf.

    I will never devalue myself so much as to render myself defenseless.

    I will never allow the principles of this nation to be subject to the whims of petty politics.

    I will never comply with unconstitutional laws.

    That’s the only pledge any true American should take.

  42. avatar Paelorian says:

    This pledge is immoral. Sometimes a “dispute” is that someone is actively trying to murder you and/or others, has the means to do so, and you and/or others are in imminent danger or death or grievous bodily harm. In such case, it’s morally imperative to use whatever means possible to save lives, and highly commendable to prepare by arming. Even for a child. If I was being murdered, it would be righteous for me to toss my weapon to my young son for him to shoot the murderer and save me if it was possible for him to do so. In addition, this pledge is not for any length of time. While it may be appropriate for children to not bring firearms to school (except for a class trip to the range or firearm instruction day, right?), I take my word seriously. There’s nothing wrong with going to school with a gun, when you’re a responsible adult. Kids shouldn’t be asked to make promises about their behavior as adults. Carry a gun to a graduate school with campus carry and be a benefit to society and public safety as a responsible armed civilian.

    1. avatar Paelorian says:

      And how are the rifle and handgun team kids going to bring their sporting tools to school?

  43. avatar Bayoushooter7 says:

    This is where I live. I wish this site would have a write-up about the ongoing investigation New Orleans is having regarding the current police response times.

    Just google: “New Orleanians on average wait over 1 hour for police to arrive”.

  44. avatar Chip Bennett says:

    Wrong audience. Ask the gang bangers.

    We lawful gun owners are already demonstrably, empirically, the most law-abiding segment of society.

  45. avatar derfel cadarn says:

    I do solemnly swear to do violence unto death in the defense of myself, loved ones and innocents throughout society with no exception and restriction on methods or weapons.

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