Quote of the Day: Some Pigs Are More Equal Than Others

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It’s one thing to accept that my husband’s mostly-safe job has a slightly increased risk of death by psychopath. It’s quite another to accept that he can’t do anything about it. Granted, it isn’t likely that someone would try to murder him and his students in cold blood. We now have to agree, though, that the risk is no longer entirely negligible. If news rooms were being shot up at the same rate, I’m guessing we’d be seeing major movement on the protect journalists front. – Rachel Lu in I Want My Husband To Have A Gun On Campus [at federalist.com]

[h/t JP]

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  1. avatar Professor Bangity says:

    So, what’s he gonna carry? I guess that depends on what he’s gonna teach. American history professors should carry either 1911’s or Smith revolvers.

    1. avatar Craig says:

      Philosophy 1022: 9×19 vs .45ACP – classical debates in our society.

      Biology 3006: Alaskan Wildlife and their relationship with humans.

      1. avatar dh34 says:

        I would say American History would be. 1911 or Colt Peacemaker.

        European History would be the 9mm.

        Urban Studies: Saturday Night Special (70’s version).

      2. avatar JR_in_NC says:

        Nicely done. +1

    2. avatar Moe Sizlak says:

      Mauser Broomhandle, accept no substitutes

      1. avatar Cliff H says:

        As iconic as the Broomhandle is, why doesn’t anyone manufacture a knock-off these days?

        1. avatar Gunr says:

          Judging from the looks of one, I’d say there not very comfortable to hold. and maybe shoot. Not sure, just a thought.

        2. avatar bontai Joe says:

          I think no one makes a replica Broomhandle because they are expensive to make, as in a lot of high tolerance parts and springs. They are also loaded via stripper clips into an integral magazine which is awkward for us folks used to ejecting the empty mag and stuffing a full one in.

        3. avatar CA.Ben says:

          Because making them would require hand fitting more parts than a custom 1911. C96s only had a single screw, the one that held on the grip panels. They were also made using no pins. All this was achieved because the parts interlocked perfectly, which makes them impossible to mass-produce.

          Unfortunately, there isn’t much of a market for $4000 C96 clones. Especially when you can buy a real C96 for around a grand.

      2. avatar Seth says:

        Broomhandle belongs in the “Philosophy of Star Wars” class, of course.

        1. avatar Philthegardner says:

          As long as the good prof admits that Han Shot First!

    3. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      Her husband is the equally impressively credentialed Asst. Professor M.T. Lu, who’s only teaching one course this semester: “Philosophy of Human Person.”

      It’s a Tues/Thurs undergraduate course that’s part of the university’s core curriculum and which just let out about twenty minutes ago. So he probably wouldn’t have too much direct contact with students of age to carry concealed, anyway, but anything’s possible.

  2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    Rachel Lu — I Want My Husband To Have A Gun On Campus

    But the much more important question is whether her husband actually wants to have a person protection firearm on campus.

  3. avatar Adub says:

    Taurus TCP or Ruger LCP

    Toss it in your pocket and nobody will ever know you have it.

    1. avatar Former Water Walker says:

      Yep Adub-no one would know in a nemisis or uncle mikes. I’ve carried a pepper blaster for years and have never had anyone look or question me.And it prints(thicker) than little 380’s. Better to break the law than DIE…

    2. avatar Gunr says:

      Yes! I’ve got a little TCP.
      Better be judged by 12, than carried by 6!

      1. avatar Former Water Walker says:

        And the TCP costs very little for what I believe is the best 380 overall. I had one and sold it but it ran perfectly. Great trigger too. I certainly would buy another…

        1. avatar Gunr says:

          Tried an LCP and a TCP together, the TCP has a much better trigger, at least on mine. And, the best part, being a veteran got me a 5% discount, which put the net cost at $190.

  4. Ms. Lu is headed down the right road, but gets sidetracked by the bedwetters’ premise that all college students are wild and crazy wet-behind-the-ears freshmen. Virtually all institutions of higher learning enroll significant percentages of “returning” adult students in their student bodies, at both the undergraduate and graduate school levels. Additionally, virtually every state sets 21 as the minimum age for issuing CCW permits. It’s entirely feasible to permit a sufficient number of responsible adult students to carry on campus, without relying on either hoplophobic faculty or recent high school graduates.

    By the way, Professor Amy Bishop was the only one who went heavy (without permission) to her last faculty meeting at University of Alabama in 2010. It did not end well for the others.

    1. avatar Hank says:

      Bingo. My wife is a returning student, and a CHL holder, and it’s an injustice that I may carry to my office every day, but she cannot protect herself beyond the door of her car. Likewise, my f-in-law was a professor and CHL holder, and he was not even allowed by the university to park on campus if the firearm was in his truck. He was told he could park a block away. Because, as you well know, violent campus attackers are always considerate enough to allow you a one-block head-start.

      1. avatar John says:

        god lib logic is sub retarded,, instead of gunfree zone signs ,may as well post open season signs

    2. avatar CarlosT says:

      You’re right that the anti-gun side’s wailing about gun-toting freshmen is BS, but I think she intended that idea as a starting point for a domino effect. These people are permitted to carry, nothing happens. Then you push for an adjacent group, and get that.

      So first it’s faculty and staff, with a permit managed by the university. Then it’s grad students. Then maybe then student population 21 and over. Then scrap the university system and just use the state’s CCW.

    3. avatar FedUp says:

      Amy Bishop?
      Never heard of her, but what a case study in missed enforcement opportunities.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting

      1. It’s no surprise you’re unfamiliar with Dr. Bishop, FedUp. As soon as the press realized she’s a doctrinaire leftist and rabid Obamao supporter (one of their own, in other words), they buried the story for want of any hoped-for tea party connection. After getting away with murdering her brother in her formative years, she had to suspect she was more equal than other animals.

  5. avatar Shire-man says:

    Somehow I doubt newsrooms would ever seek to protect themselves from anything. They’re sick and would welcome a bloodbath in their offices for numerable twisted reasons.

  6. avatar Gregolas says:

    Rachel, just have him carry concealed anyway.
    As city prosecutor, then as an adjunct professor at two “car pool colleges” I simply ignored their injunctions against carrying guns.
    None of them paid me enough to come home in a box.
    If, as in my state, all they can do is fire you, then the decision to carry concealed is easy IMHO.

    1. avatar Kendahl says:

      You were in a different position compared to staff and students. Teaching was a second job for you, not your sole income source. It would be hard to find another academic job if you were fired from your previous one for violating a school policy to which most schools subscribe. An expelled student would have a similar problem trying to resume his education at another college.

    2. avatar John says:

      good point ,if everyone just ignored the doctrine what would they do ? if everyone just refused to enroll or patronize these zones ,they would become ghost towns ,or would have to recognize ccw’s.

  7. avatar Chip Bennett says:

    We now have to agree, though, that the risk is no longer entirely negligible.

    No, actually: we don’t have to agree on that point. The risk of a would-be criminal bringing a gun on campus and using it to attempt to kill your husband is entirely unchanged by the passage of this or any other law. Because criminals aren’t beholden to laws. That’s sort of inherent to being a criminal.

    1. avatar Accur81 says:

      I think she just means that statistically the risk is low. When I ride a motorcycle it is one of the most dangerous forms of transportation available – statistically speaking.

    2. avatar CarlosT says:

      Also, did you read the article? The context of the quote is that campus shootings are a thing now, albeit a fairly infrequent thing, so the risk now is very low, but now no longer negligible.

      Therefore, she supports campus carry, if not for everyone, then as a compromise starting with faculty and staff.

      1. avatar Chip Bennett says:

        Also, did you read the article? The context of the quote is that campus shootings are a thing now, albeit a fairly infrequent thing, so the risk now is very low, but now no longer negligible.

        I did not read the article. I only read the quote as excerpted here. That said: I still don’t agree with her premise. Campus shootings are no more a “thing” now than they have ever been in the past. The risk is non-zero but negligible now – just as the risk has always been non-zero but negligible.

        School shootings are so rare as to be statistically irrelevant. Violent crime in general is on a precipitous, two-decade-long decline. We don’t have to concede that either point is untrue, in order to support/assert the right of people on campus to be armed in self-defense.

        1. avatar Geoff PR says:

          The full article is worth the read, Chip.

          BTW, a full year in Mass? What were you (not) thinking?

          🙂

        2. avatar Chip Bennett says:

          The full article is worth the read, Chip.

          Thanks for the heads-up. I’ll give it a read.

          BTW, a full year in Mass? What were you (not) thinking?

          🙂

          Let’s just say: taking one for the team.

  8. avatar Fred says:

    At one of our out of office get togethers the topic of concealed carry licenses came up because half a dozen of them wanted to get 10 people to take the class together so the price would be reduced. My office is a little strange compared to most, but I always feel bad for people when they say they can’t carry because their employee won’t allow it. That’s how you know your employer doesn’t care about you, they would rather you be a victim of crime or even die than take the tiny chance you would cost the company a lawsuit. Deeply telling of corporate culture and trust.

    1. avatar Mk10108 says:

      Our local state and federal government does care as well. Immune from lawsuits, deny lawful self protection., then create laws that make people felons if the choose to ignore unjust laws and carry anyway.

  9. avatar Kendahl says:

    Sensible woman. Incremental changes are the easiest to make and that’s what she is suggesting. Kansas is a good example. They went from no concealed carry to licensed concealed carry and now constitutional carry. That the sky didn’t fall after each change made it easier to argue for the next one.

  10. avatar Tex300BLK says:

    Case in point, a cute blonde journalist gets shot and there is more outrage, handwringing, and screaming calls to “do something!” than just about any gun tragedy with less of a body count than Sandy Hook. That should tell you something.

  11. avatar nw says:

    I study at a university where my contract states I cannot carry a firearm, so I risk expulsion if anyone figures out I’m carrying. On the other hand, visitors to the university who are not students or employees are not bound by this and can carry (even openly) with impunity, at least outside of the buildings.

    Does this make sense to anyone here? I’m told the policy exists to ensure the safety of all members of the university community.

    1. avatar nw says:

      Just in case my first comment wasn’t clear, I do leave my gun at home when I go to school. For me personally I simply cannot afford the risk of being expelled, but I understand if others choose differently.

    2. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “Does this make sense to anyone here? I’m told the policy exists to ensure the safety of all members of the university community.”

      If you have to ask that question, I fear you have nothing further to gain at that institution…

      Sorry, dude.

  12. avatar GuyFromV says:

    Gun article headline photo trigger discipline alert.

  13. avatar IdahoPete says:

    “Academics aren’t underprivileged, of course. They’re just extremely squeamish about guns. That’s why we see communities of healthy, intelligent people choosing to be sitting ducks for murderous psychopaths. It’s infuriating; aren’t universities supposed to be gathering places for smart people? So how do they conclude that it’s a good idea to permit (nay, insist!) the guy with the murder-and-death wish the cozy security of knowing he’ll be the only one around with a firearm?” … “Might we consider a compromise? Don’t start by allowing everyone to carry. Universities can exercise more control by issuing campus-carry permits, probably to eligible faculty and staff.”

    Anyone else see the contradictions in these two statements? Faculty and styff are “squeamish”, and “choose to be sitting ducks for psychopaths”, but that is the “select” group she wants to be able to carry on campus.

    1. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      I think she’s just acknowledging that academics as a whole are squeamish types, but that there are some among them who might choose to carry if offered the option. She even specifies that it’d be voluntary and that if they don’t like it, then don’t carry.

      As for staff, that covers many other people who are not teaching or researching. That group probably isn’t monolithic and could include quite an array of views on this subject.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        For those who haven’t,…

        Read the full article..

        She makes a solid case, meaning, her hubby’s career is probably now doomed.

  14. avatar Ralph says:

    If news rooms were being shot up at the same rate, I’m guessing we’d be seeing major movement on the protect journalists front.

    If newsrooms were being shot up at the same rate, Brian Williams would be there dodging gunfire and saving puppies, Dan Rather would be making up some stories about it and Fareed Zakaria would republish a TTAG article under his own name.

    1. avatar John says:

      and hillary would tell us how she dodged sniper fire in bosnia ,,chuckle

  15. avatar Hannibal says:

    The risk of your husband being at a school that happens to be shot up and which he could make a difference in is actually… negligible.

  16. avatar Wee Liam says:

    Finally, someone who GETS it!

  17. avatar Jack Holan says:

    Don’t forget these new guidelines won’t necessarily apply to Senators & Representives. So if you see a Psychologist for Depression as an example No Gun Purchase even though your professional who knows you over an extended period of time knows you haven’t any history of violence, currently aren’t violent or suicidal and based on longevity it’s unlikely will become such and is trained in the use of both hand guns and rifles. Now the EXEMPT CONGRESSMEN can be loonier than a looney toon but gets a free pass regardless symptomatic of irregular dysfunctional behavior Weiner. Lawbreakers in office give a pass tax cheats who pay when caught years later but if it were you or I we would be on our way to the slammer or big Al Sharpten. You get the I idea there will be 2 classes of people for but gun plus Terrorists&Criminals. At any given time 1:4 seek a Mental Health Provider for Anxiety or Depression. Does this cutely by sleight of hand changing HIPPA Records that now go to IRS DHHS and FBI exclude this large number of the citizenry when in fact most are not being treated for an anger issue. This a nice Diabolical plan like Obamacare and Digital Records to keep track of a persons diseases and treatment.
    Once we open Pandoras Box there is no end the envelope will be pushed always Remember Obama wanted to bar Retirees and poor people whatever level that means. The two governments that banned private ownership of gun on taking power NAZI Germany & SOVIET Russia.

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