What Gun Do You Grab? – Pistol-Packing Drone Edition

Let’s say you’re minding your own business in your yard. You’ve just fired up the barbecue in preparation of smoking a few racks of babybacks, perhaps enjoying an adult beverage or two and generally enjoying your own existence. But suddenly, a pistol-packing drone appears over your back fence – which gun do you grab? . . .

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Sure, a Benelli M2 would seem the obvious choice. A 3″ load of #4 shot accurately administered should knock the little whirring bugger right out of the sky before it gets off too many shots.

Then again, there’s a lot to be said for a Daniel Defense DDM4. Great ergos, lighter weight and much more capacity.

When the remotely-triggered electronic dealer of death hovers over immediate vicinity, which gun would you grab?

comments

  1. avatar RocketScientist says:

    Shotgun. No doubt. Small, moving target in close range? In an (sub)urban environment (as stipulated in the post)? Yeah, shotgun.

    1. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

      shotgun for sure ….then i’d find the a//hole with the remote….

  2. avatar GWHNick says:

    Scattergat everytime. I do not want to be slinging 556 projectiles into the air having no clue where they will land.

    1. avatar Garrison Hall says:

      Yep. There’s a reason bird guns are called bird guns.

    2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      What GWHNick said … I cannot ever think of a situation where it is okay to shoot a rifle into the air — especially at low angles to the horizon.

      Shotgun with #4 shot sounds like the winner to me.

    3. avatar derek says:

      “556 projectiles” . . . that must be the magazine from hell!!! 🙂

  3. avatar Wayne says:

    Throw the FAA at them! that’ll do the trick; they’ll legislate them to death, you save ammo…win/win???

    1. avatar Bob (a different bob) says:

      May the bans and hissy fits begin…

    2. I’ll save ammo because the drone has to lower altitude to hit a human target. It also turns slow so I will run around behind it and smash it to the ground with a baseball bat. Free gun!

  4. avatar jans says:

    There is a new calf somewhere, born of DiFi (Fein-stein). There will be a federal law in 3, 2, 1…

  5. avatar working4change says:

    any and all Drones will be shot down or jammed. thank you for idiot providing a Free target that costs do much money.

    if its in range it will be come down, then be smashed in 1/4″x 1/4″ or smaller pieces. dont try to retrieve the leftovers.

    1. avatar Alan Longnecker says:

      He’s serious. I’ve seen his calipers.

  6. avatar Benellishot12 says:

    Is this a serious question? WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TRY TO SHOOT A MOVING DRONE IN THE AIR WITH A 556 RIFLE…OR ANY RIFLE AT THAT?!?!?!

    The question should be…which shotgun do you go for first?

    1. avatar Chadwick P. says:

      Well yes the shotgun is best unless the drone is the size of a car then I’m going for FMJ because the S has hit the fan.

  7. avatar General Zod says:

    SuperSoaker. That drone’s electronic and unlikely to be weatherproof…

    1. avatar Anner says:

      A super soaker…filled with lighter fluid! Kill it with fire mwahaha!

      1. avatar My Older Brother Chet says:

        A garden hose is like a belt fed super soaker…and even the most rabid anti gunner owns a hose. That or an Ithaca Mag-10 Road Blocker. Because you cant spell overkill without the kill.

        1. avatar Pieslapper says:

          There is no overkill, there is only open fire and time to reload.

        2. avatar Chadwick P. says:

          Pieslapper nailed it!

  8. avatar styrgwillidar says:

    Well– birdshot is gonna do a lot less damage to the pistol and take out more of the motors on the quadcopter, I mean, if you’re gonna shoot it down you may as well salvage what you can. You can always use another pistol. Right?

    1. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

      I like where your going with that….Honey look what I found…LOL

    2. avatar 505markf says:

      Hmmm…. Amazon home delivery by drone? Works for me.

  9. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    I have a sign in my back yard. It’s a gun free zone, so the drone couldn’t be there.

    (Sarc off now)
    Benelli, hands down!

    1. avatar tfunk says:

      Dammit! That’s what I was gonna say! 🙂

  10. avatar Curtis in IL says:

    “perhaps enjoying an adult beverage or two…”
    Some TTAG readers have opined that one should not be armed in that situation, so they could only seek cover and call 911.

    1. avatar styrgwillidar says:

      Perhaps they could revert to Roman times and use netting with weighting on the seams making it suitable for throwing? Added benefit being if you foul the props and bring it down…. you have now acquired an undamaged pistol!!

      1. avatar Alan Longnecker says:

        Are you a licensed retarius?

        1. avatar styrgwillidar says:

          Not since they ended the games a few centuries back… been meaning to renew my license…

        2. avatar Markarov says:

          I think you mean: retiarius

      2. avatar Geoff PR says:

        “Perhaps they could revert to Roman times and use netting with weighting on the seams making it suitable for throwing?”

        Yep. A small cast-net would do the trick…

        http://www.walmart.com/c/kp/cast-nets

      3. avatar Cloudbuster says:

        Hmm. How big of a fine wire net with small lead weights on the edge *could* you pack into a 12 gauge shell? Not very big, but still, for the lulz….

        1. avatar Geoff PR says:

          Someone makes a 12 ga net shell.

          That or a bola, two lead weights tied together with a wire…

      4. avatar Leadslinger says:

        Net-Gun

    2. avatar Chadwick P. says:

      Yeah that’s a silly notion when you are on your own property. I don’t care what the law might say on that one. The law of the land says my property with the freedom from unreasonable search and seizure and my right of defense. Alright well all of those rights mean nothing to most all alphabet agencies so maybe there is cause to worry.

  11. avatar 5Spot says:

    Speaking of which, some yokel has been flying a drone over our local. Professional and fast. 200-400 ft.
    Looked on the FAA site for the PDs that have drone use apps in….none by us.

    Are there FAA legal frequency jammers yet? Legal, non-pew pew pew countermeasures????

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      You could fry the CCD with an IR emitter. It won’t hurt the copter part, but without the ability to see through the camera, it’s not going to be easy to fly.

      Also, wi-fi jammers are legal in the USA (unless there’s a local ban, you’re subject to), so you could just get one of those. Many of the consumer oriented, Parrot-style drones use wi-fi, because of the high data rate. And the beautiful part is most of the drones have a failsafe that causes them to descend slowly when they lose the connection, so it will literally drop right into your hands. A government grade drone won’t use wi-fi, because of the short range.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        “Also, wi-fi jammers are legal in the USA (unless there’s a local ban, you’re subject to), so you could just get one of those.”

        I need a cite on that.

        In general in the USA, deliberately interfering with an authorized transmission is Verboten.

        The FCC is not known for being reasonable.

        But, they have to catch you.

        A single 30 second jamming transmission that crashes a drone is gonna be real tough to prove.

        Unless those drone flights are regular and they keep crashing…

        1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          “In general in the USA, deliberately interfering with an authorized transmission is Verboten.”

          That statement is correct. I would never openly admit to “jamming” anything in any situation.

    2. avatar Warlocc says:

      Look around for an owner. Non commercial drones don’t have all that much range or altitude. I can’t let any of mine get more than 100 feet away from me or so, before I have trouble controlling them. If there’s no owner nearby, FAA rules are being violated. Give ’em a call.

  12. avatar Flubnut says:

    Can Cannon. Duh. Blizerian already answered this question here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxbkWLLTMI

    Scroll to 2:45 for the proof. Warning: A little NSFW T&A, plus Dan dressed in his best Richard Simmons shorts. Eeesh!

  13. avatar MAC][ says:

    CIWS! Oh wait…do I have neighbors when Skynet comes for me? Ok, well then shotty for the win!

  14. avatar Ralph says:

    But suddenly, a pistol-packing drone appears over your back fence – which gun do you grab?

    The one on the drone.

  15. avatar Chris M says:

    That sounds like a job for Vera!

    1. avatar MAC][ says:

      +1 for the Firefly reference

  16. avatar Tom says:

    Uhhh none. . In most back yards, it is not legal to discharge a firearm. And as much as we all don’t like it, you don’t own the airspace over your property, so you aren’t within your rights to do anything about it, unfortunately. Maybe you could fly a cheap rc airplane and have mid air with it! Or a potato gun with one of those nets like the inspector gadget would use to catch it!

    1. avatar Curtis in IL says:

      I may not own the airspace but I have a right to stop an imminent, credible threat of death or grave bodily harm.

    2. avatar styrgwillidar says:

      You’re going to have to argue self-defense. Would a reasonable person be in fear of imminent serious bodily injury in that situation? A pistol equipped quadcopter appears, is it like a criminal pointing a firearm at you— do you have to let him take the first shot?

      1. avatar JasonM says:

        I think you could easily convince, the cops, DA, judge, or jury (as needed) that it presented credible threat of serious bodily injury. In the states I’ve lived in (all in the south or west), if a reasonable person would consider an attacker a threat of serious injury, it’s legal to use lethal force to neutralize the threat. And you don’t have to know the attacker is a threat (e.g. wait for him/it to shoot first), just believe that it’s a threat. The bar for shooting a mechanical device is probably much lower than for shooting a person. Or at least the scrutiny after the fact would be.

    3. avatar neiowa says:

      This should work
      http://www.troybuiltmodels.com/items/ESMD3A1-81FAF.html

      R/C ESM Aichi D3A1 Val

  17. avatar Alan Longnecker says:

    Either the one you’re wearing, or throw the dog chain at it. It’s a tiny helicopter, they’re born with a desire to crash.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      Rotary wing flight is naturally born with a desire to crash.

  18. avatar ValleyForge77 says:

    How about one of those soda can launchers? I KNEW there was a good use for that thing!

  19. avatar AllAmerican says:

    What? Ya’ll don’t have at AAA in your back yard?

  20. avatar Jim R says:

    Mossberg 500. Whatever ammo I have on hand (if it’s #8 or 00 buckshot, it’s getting blasted until it comes down)

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      No buckshot!

      Just small birdshot.

      All you want to do is shatter just one of its carbon fiber propellers.

      Then you have a new (to you) drone or sell it on eBay…

  21. avatar davidx says:

    I’m with General Zod; SuperSoaker.

    Otherwise I’d have to whip out my Particle-Beam-EMP Blaster, which could tend to short out neighboring electronics as well.

  22. avatar BDub says:

    A well thrown disc will knock a quad-rotor out of the air.

  23. avatar JQPub says:

    man, I won’t even launch a .22 into the trees when I’m squirrel hunting, so I’m going to have to go Benelli (understanding of course that my Stinger AA missiles are out of reach)

  24. Mossberg 500 with 00 buck.

  25. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

    My cat goes all hunter-killer when she sees any flying object.

    No one has tried to infringe on my right to deploy feline weaponry. Yet.

    (They can have my cat when they pry her from my cold dead fingers. )

    1. avatar MAC][ says:

      I heard your cat’s a pussy.

    2. avatar 505markf says:

      Well, it’s called a catapult for a reason. Now we know why.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        Come up with an attachment for that AR platform soda can launcher to launch your cat

        (With a parachute, I’m not cruel).

        You’ll get major page hits for the YouTube video…

  26. avatar Noishkel says:

    Option 3: build your own hunter killer drone to shoot down the original drone.

  27. avatar Eyjafjallajokull says:

    I’d just sick my wife on it. I swear she has a broomstick somewhere she can use to get close, and then that poor drone will wish it never ventured into my back yard.

    1. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

      Sometimes going to gun is not the best choice. Case in point.

  28. avatar PeterC says:

    My little CZ 28-gauge side-by-side is an absolute demon on doves. It should work well for Sporting Drones.

  29. avatar John L. says:

    None of the above.

    High-power-microwave system would be my preferred solution here: EMP the sucker.

  30. avatar David says:

    I keep going back and forth between a blunderbuss and a wooden canon. Love me some old skool and low tech 🙂

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      You should check out my new atlatl.

  31. avatar Bob Watson says:

    LH Remington 870, 28″ bbl, 10 shot magazine tube extension, red dot sight, 3″ 00 buck = drone be gone.

  32. avatar Model 31 says:

    shotgun to its back end. then go add handgun to the collection…approach from behind.

  33. avatar Brett says:

    Definitely grabbing a shotgun in this highly unlikely scenario.

  34. avatar Gordon Wagner says:

    #7 birdshot.

  35. avatar Winningstads says:

    Rossi circut judge loaded with 410

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “Rossi circut judge loaded with 410”

      With a laser on that Judge…

  36. avatar Broken 3ight says:

    Tennis ball(s). When I hit it and it crashes, the dogs will finish it off and bring it back.

  37. avatar AlanInFL says:

    FIM-92 Stinger.

  38. avatar SkyMan77 says:

    Shawn Graber’s $100 Mossberg 500A would do the trick.

  39. avatar Gunr says:

    How about that 12GA rotational gatling gun, or machine gun they had on that gun store, before they went off the air.
    Will something or other, with Red Jacket.

  40. avatar JWM says:

    This is why I don’t bbq in my backyard. It turns into a Bond movie. I’m tired of phucking up super villians.

  41. avatar Siris says:

    A friend of mine was in his back yard when a “camera drone” (quad copter) came flying over and hovered. He flipped it off and the drone shook around acknowledging him. He grabbed his shotgun and came back out and drone simply climbed and hovered out of range.
    If it’s in a hover, Id get someone to distract it, get its attention and Id grab the rifle and hit it while hovering. Idk if a Shotgun will reach 100yards up. Maybe throw some bird shot and hope it peppers the props maybe.. Still think if it’s hovering, the one shot would be best..
    Or..
    Find the pilot. He’s most likely outside and in line of sight of the drone where a well chunked rock should rid the problem.

  42. avatar 505markf says:

    40mm Bofors. Might as well make a statement. Why? Cause ‘merica! (with a nod to the Swedish firearms industry).

  43. avatar Jon says:

    I would take a shotgun, but not the M2, a 2 gauge punt gun would do a much better job at totally destroying the drone.

  44. avatar RetroG says:

    Bow or crossbow. Generally speaking, no restrictions on firing one near buildings.

  45. avatar Anonymous says:

    Oh yea. Like it. Send that link to Feinstein.

  46. avatar Josh Feola says:

    Last I knew it is illegal to attach a weapon to an aircraft, and as far as the govt is concerned a drone is an aircraft. I’m sure the Feds will be looking for the poster of this vid as soon as they get wind of it.

  47. avatar KarVer says:

    Cheap Wal-Mart Mossberg pump, with a sawed off barrel. With Turkey an dove shot loads. A neighbor on the deck, can fire his sidearm. While we all move away from the propane. (1Lb of propane = 10 sticks of DyNamite!). Sending the other friend to grab a semiautomatic 20G hidden behind a door.

  48. avatar Matt Mann says:

    Shotgun. Throwing rifle slugs into the air is a bad idea, mm’kay? Rifles fired in the air are bad, so don’t do that, M’kay?

  49. avatar ThatGuyYouKnow says:

    frozen mini marshmallows from a potato cannon might do the trick. Not sure how I know this but I am certain it will upset the rival fans at a college football game… the key is to freeze them over night , just sayin.

  50. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Yeah shot gun-I was going to say punt gun but it’s already taken(but you might get a flock of ducks too)…

  51. avatar cknarf says:

    M91/30 w/bayonet. Throw it like spear, explode drone instantly.

  52. avatar Fletch says:

    More drones have been killed with .22lr than any other caliber.

  53. avatar Illinois_Minion says:

    Where is my 0.9mm gattling gun?

  54. avatar Will P. says:

    Shotgun all day. I wish it was a 3 1/2 chamber. With #4 buckshot out of a 3 1/2 magnum that’s 54, .24″ pellets. It’s like doing 2 30rd mag dumps from that AR at close range.

  55. avatar TEdgar says:

    The one on my hip – S&W model 64, 3″ barrel

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