“I am apt to believe that [Independence Day] will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance; it ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more.” –John Adams

71 Responses to Quote of the Day: Happy Independence Day Edition

  1. Sadly the 56 Men who pledged their lives and sacred honor to the founding of this Nation, knowing they would be hung as traitors if caught, has been diminished, usurped, abused, and only remembered by a minority of this Country. We’ve lost much of what they Founded.
    “A Republic if you can keep it”.
    Benjamin Franklin

    • “We’ve lost much of what they Founded.”

      Some of us are tenaciously holding on to to the Liberty we have left.


      The trolls that infect TTAG are going to be out in force.

      Let’s not feed them. Just laugh at them instead.

      (Yeah, I know I’m just as guilty of feeding the little sh!ts.)

      • Geoff PR,

        My responses to the trolls do not constitute feeding them. Rather, I provide a concise, verifiable FACT which clearly shows that they are lying. And I only do this for the benefit of people who are uneducated or sitting on the proverbial fence.

        Beyond that, I totally understand and completely agree with your sentiment.

  2. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance; from this time forward forever more.”
    Or until ISIS threatens us and we cancel the proceedings and shelter in place sucking our thumbs in fear.

    • “Or until ISIS threatens us and we cancel the proceedings and shelter in place sucking our thumbs in fear.”

      What’s this ‘we’ sh!t?

      You snivel and suck your thumb, I’ll do what I can to ride out the attack and protect the ones I love. (This also includes ones I might like to love… Never let a crisis go to waste and all… *cough*)

      • Some of the military bases have canceled 4th of July celebrations due to fear of ISIS type attacks. I went to the Osgood fireworks show unarmed and had a good time. i may go to the Madison fireworks show tonight.
        No, I am not being sarcastic in my above statement.

        • Why did you go to the Osgood fireworks show unarmed? Why not be armed?

        • Some of the military bases have canceled 4th of July celebrations due to fear of ISIS type attacks. I went to the Osgood fireworks show unarmed and had a good time. I may go to the Madison fireworks show tonight.
          No, I am not being sarcastic in my above statement.
          The us in the above post refers to the craven populace and officials that are cowering in fear of ISIS inspired attacks and suggesting mass paranoia to see and shoot vigorously. This whole thing reminds me of the movie 1941.It is going to be a long war.
          The network communication on the website somewhat blows.

        • @ uncommon-sense.
          I just did not see the need to go armed as the people who actually live in Ripley County and attend such proceedings are usually pretty decent people. I also went unarmed to show that the morons promoting ISIS mass hysteria in safer areas of America are a bunch of nuts.

  3. My wife suggested bacon for breakfast after read this to her. I told her bacon wasn’t on the list, but it should be.

    • Bacon is hated by the Islamic terrorist Jihaddi.

      Therefore it seems to me that Bacon, one of nature’s most perfect foods, (*cough*) should have honorary status on that list.

      (Respectfully submitted)

      • Absolutely … everything is better with bacon … bacon, bacon, bacon!!!!!

        Sadly, I only had turkey sausage with my breakfast today : (

        • I love the photo I saw on the net, showing the Mexican dude, and he says:
          “I don’t always talk to vegans, but when I do, it’s with a mouth full of beacon!”

        • Another Robert, grind your beef and bacon in 50/50 amounts and patty them out. Burger/bacon in one.

        • JWM: Whoaaa, doesn’t that sound good–never thought of that… 🙂

      • Ham or pork chops can fill in for bacon. Anything from a pig is verboten by the Fundamentalist Muslims. Chopped up ham on some scrambled eggs sounds delicious. Have some and celebrate the 4th. Perhaps some BBQ pork chops for dinner or lunch ? Funny how some of these things that used to cause illness when not cooked adequately became religious beliefs. Can see how it happened when nobody knew what was really going on. But, now that we do, it seems insane that these restrictions are still there. Pretty much the same restrictions for Fundamentalist Jews. OTOH I know a few Jews who pay no attention to the prohibitions on pork anymore. They must be Reformed Jews…;-) !

  4. NPR used the occasion to thank George Washington for his efforts breeding draft-mules…but only after some tripe about tranny four-year-olds.

  5. My youngest daughter was interested in reading 1984 and so I bought it for a July 4th present. She has read Animal Farm. In college, she had to read some dumb socialist book about the English working class by Friedrich Engels. I often times wonder if Orwell got the future more correct than anybody else. The latest Confederate flag controversy is a good example of rewriting the past when you take it out of Civil War games and Civil War battlefields. Most people do not know how bad the New Deal really was.
    Still think Robert Heinlein and Ayn Rand got it more right than they did wrong.
    I still think Benjamin Franklin and Patrick Henry were more right than wrong.

    • Removing the Confederate Battle Flag from contexts where it’s historically appropriate (such as games and artwork depicting battles it was actually flown in) has to be the height of PC stupidity. I didn’t think I’d live long enough to see PC stupidity actually top the condemnations of the second Lord of the Rings movie for being titled “The Two Towers” (because, you see, it’s insensitive to the victims of the 9/11 attacks–funny how that’s the only time I ever noticed the Left caring about that). Are they going to start removing swastikas from WWII movies and games? Oh, wait, I forgot how anti-Semitic the left has become, so never mind.

      I don’t disagree with you in the slightest re: Ayn Rand and Robert A. Heinlein. Both had a strong disdain for what Rand called “evasion,” a refusal to accept facts staring one plain in the face.

      One of my favorite Ayn Rand quotes is: “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.”

      Hopefully we as a nation figure that out before it’s too late.

      • Just reminds me of something; My son bought a model WWII airplane, came with two sets of decals, one to fit it out as Swiss and one to make it look Finnish. The Finnish national insignia for their airplanes at the time was–get this–a blue swastika. The model company actually cut the wing- and fuselage-roundel insignia in half, so it wouldn’t form a full swastika on the decal card. It had to be applied to the plane in two pieces to make the whole swastika. Funny how folks try to deal with politically-incorrect stuff like that. Wonder if the Confederate battle flag will meet a similar fate.

        • The swastika is outlawed in some places, like Germany. Could be that they did that so the product is marketable in Germany and other such places.

        • Swastika was around a long time before Hitler and his pals. One of my ancestral family heritage symbols is a white swastika which is not canted at an angle. Werner Voss had a white non-canted swastika symbol as well in WWI.
          Big deal.

        • @ Grindstone: Thanks, maybe that explains it. Pretty sure the directions were in several languages, now that you mention it.
          @ Indiana Tom: I also note that pre-WWII, the insignia for Latvian aircraft was a RED swastika. I think the symbol actually goes back to ancient India. I do believe the Nazis were the first to “cant” the symbol to suggest [unstoppable] forward motion.

        • The 45th Infantry Division also used to have one as their symbol.

          @Tom, tell that to Germany.

        • There is a town named “Swastika” in Ontaria, predating WWII of course, and they refuse to change it just because some shithead sullied it. Good for them.

  6. Our responsibility as Americans is to remind our children and grandchildren about the significance of this day and why we celebrate it.

    Sometime between the parade, the bar-b-que and the fireworks, we need to sit down with them and talk about why 56 people “mutually pledged our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

    If this republic fails, it will be because succeeding generations never truly understood why it was created in the first place.

    • “If this republic fails, it will be because succeeding generations never truly understood why it was created in the first place.”

      That’s why public schools (and quite a few law schools, I hear…) refuse to teach understanding the ‘whys’ of the construction of our Constitution.

      A constitution taught as a ‘suggestion’ is easier to ignore than ‘shall not’…

    • Oddly enough, the local Christian radio station here has made that idea kind of a theme. They are running ads featuring college-age people answering–or not answering-questions about the Revolutionary War. Easy stuff, like who were we fighting against, what year was independence declared, who won (!!), who was the first Pres. And the kids are either saying “I dunno” or “Were we fighting France?” or, “That was in 1667, wasn’t it?”, or, in one particularly clever case, “Of course we won, that’s the one we were fighting each other”. It’s really pretty appalling…

      • How many people did they poll and how many actually got the questions correct? Did they air any of those? There will always be dumb kids.

        • Not many, and of course they didn’t air the correct ones, the point of the ads was “sit your children down and teach them about the country’s heritage”. But for Pete’s sake, Grindstone, these were college-age adults in a country with compulsory high-school education. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty inexcusable. Not knowing who George Washington is? At all? Despite one respondent’s query “is this a trick question”, it wasn’t.

        • A “trick question” is any question where you will look like a moron for not knowing the correct answer.

          Of course that definition makes some sense when the question is hard, or obfuscatively worded to try to “trick” you into supplying the wrong answer. If the question is simple and your answering it wrong doesn’t just make you look like a moron but proves it…

  7. “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” ~Ronald Reagan

    Happy Brithday America

  8. Wow, that was a phenomenal quote from John Adams! I have never heard that before.

    I just might have to go do an open carry walk in my local town with my children and a flag.

  9. Not meaning to slight John Adams, but the quote was from a letter he wrote to his wife on July 3, in which he was referring to July 2, 1776, as being our day of independence. His sentiment was in the right place, he just got the date wrong.

    • Or perhaps we did. The Second was when the actual unanimous vote for independence was taken (otherwise Adams would have had nothing to say about independence to his wife on the third). The fourth was when the Continental Congress approved the document. It might be better known as “Declaration Day” to the Second’s “Independence Day”

      The Fourth rose in prominence because it’s written on the actual document, and of course both Adams and Jefferson died on that day fifty years later, in 1826.

      I can’t hold the quirks of later culture against the man, I believe his argument to be a good one.

  10. If everyone ate bacon we would have world peace????????????. In the meantime I heard isis might be making an appearance so I went out and bought a Beretta 92A1. Put 300 rounds thru it and being up to now a polymer guy I might be crossing over to the dark side of aluminum and steel, external hammers and safeties. Now I just need a proper holster.

    • Give a CZ-75 a try as well. (I’ve got a lot of experience with both, and both are good guns.)

        • Cool. Be aware there are two different styles, one with a decocker and one with a cpcked-and-locked safety. If you find yourself liking how the gun shoots but hate the initial DA pull, or hate the way the controls operate, all hope is not lost, try the other one.

      • Gotta give you that one–and ditto it re “community service” requirements for high-school graduation, etc.

    • “maybe we should bring back the draft so people appreciate what they have here?”

      You may be on to something, Dr. Diggler.

      In retrospect, it would have been beneficial to me.

      As the late John Belushi once said:

      “But, Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!”

      • If I knew in 1984 what I know now, I would have signed up in the Air Force when they came calling. Apparently I did rather well on the ASVAB because ALL branches were courting me and offering scholarships and such. Unfortunately, my hippie oldest brother, socialist middle brother, and “snarky as hell about HIS time in the Army” father, tainted my view of service.

  11. inspirational. sometime between a double shift today and an 8hr shift tomorrow i promise to manage at least some guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations.
    a half stick and a 5000ct roll of crackers. and a mexican beer.

    • Oh, man, back when I was working heavy industry, overtime during holidays was *very* profitable.

      And no one around of any importance it the bargain.

  12. I bought some guns today to celebrate…happy b-day USA, with all bumps and warts, still the best of the rest!

  13. I went out to several of my local gun stores, figuring I’d throw some extra support their way on this day of independence (perhaps even take advantage of a sale or two), and with the exception of the chain stores (e.g Dicks and Wally’s), they were all CLOSED!!

  14. Happy 4th! Do hot dogs count as pork for the followers of the moon god? I’m doing my part for America…

  15. I, and a few good friends were up a 4:30, drove to the shooting pit and ran drills with handhandgun and carbine for 2hours or so, back in town for barbeque. We felt that way we could celebrate the 4th irritate the White House, and maybe get ready to welcome ISIS .

  16. Got up at 2.30 am so we could be in the rabbit killing fields at daylight. No fireworks, just 12 bores.

    All and all a good morning.

    I hope you all have a good day.

    • Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

  17. Dragged out my bolt action and shot a few sub-MOA groups (Up yours King George!), along with a couple that were just a bit bigger (but well under 2 MOA).

    That gun would be awesome in the hands of a truly competent sharpshooter.

  18. After spending some time in a 3rd world country, and no, I don’t mean at a resort in a place like Cancun, one starts to realize the vast majority of people on this planet actually live in really tough conditions where every day is a great struggle to survive under the hopelessness of tyranny and oppression, where one’s lot in life has little chance of getting better no matter how hard the effort. We, who are American citizens by birth, truly did hit the greatest lottery of all. May we all realize our great fortune, not take it for granted, and work hard to preserve it. Happy Birthday America!

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