Anti-Open Carry Kroger Petition is a Damp Squib

Anti-open carry Kroger petition (courtesy faceboo.com)

TTAG reader JT writes:

MDA/Everytown started yet another Facebook petition directed toward Kroger employees. Two days later you can see the petition has really taken off…. Or not. 17 likes and 3 shares later it’s kind of flat-lined. What is of interest though are the comments, mostly written by Kroger employees, we obviously don’t agree with their position . . .

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  1. avatar ThomasR says:

    Those Kroger’s employee’s make total (gun) sense.

  2. avatar Gary Schulze says:

    This is just so…beautiful. Made my day. MDA, you have been deemed irrelevant. Resistance is futile.

    1. avatar Greg says:

      Rubbish.
      Never underestimate the other side.

  3. avatar JFrame says:

    That’s why I shop at Kroger. I like common sense.

  4. avatar Noishkel says:

    Hmm. I thought MDA deleted all dissenting commentary. Must be messages they hadn’t got to you.

    1. avatar Ben says:

      That’s exactly what I was thinking. Something is fishy… it normally takes under five minutes to get banned if you comment something that doesn’t parrot their drivel.

      1. avatar Geoff PR says:

        I imagine most of MDA’s volunteers are people with no lives manning their keyboards frantically banning every negative FakeBook comment they see…

  5. avatar Another Robert says:

    What’s with this anyway? Trying to go after Kroger again? Is this serious?

    1. avatar Noishkel says:

      Well Kroger resisted them. They’re probably their first real big public failure.

      1. avatar Another Robert says:

        Seems like they would try to cut their losses and let it fade away. I don’t think they are the PR geniuses some people make them out to be.

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        They will do what Mikey says. Looking for sense-look somewhere else.

  6. avatar MarkPA says:

    Kroger: My only serious complaint about your company is that you have failed, FAILED! to open a store in my area. If you did I’d shop in your store and make a special exception for EDC; I’d OC in your store.

    1. avatar arsh says:

      Exactly. Around here there’s a Cub Foods monopoly (3 in this city an no options without a commute). I wish they’d close one and Open Kroger. i’d spend more just to support a company that recognizes rights.

    2. avatar Jon in CO says:

      Have some patience, (I’m a Kroger subsidy employee) they are pushing stores EVERYWHERE currently. They’re doing remodels on current stores nationwide right now to get them back to mainstream and modern. There’s a small town about 20 miles east of here and the only thing out there is a Walmart. They just dropped money on a plot to pretty much take over. Kroger stock has doubled over the last couple years, so it’s also a great investment. Be patient with them, and I’ll bet they get a store near you soon.

      1. avatar MarkPA says:

        OK, thanks. I’ll resume biting my bullet.

    3. avatar Scrubula says:

      You in pennsylvania? There’s one fred meyer somewhere in your state (fred meyer is owned by kroger)

      1. avatar Eric L says:

        They also own turkey hill mini markets.

        1. avatar Matthew says:

          And for those in nicer neighborhoods they also own Harris Teeter .

  7. avatar Tile floor says:

    There’s a reason why I exclusively shop for my groceries there.

    Plus their produce is pretty good

  8. avatar Gregory Smith says:

    Would i sign the Open -Carry Kroger Petition? Uh,not no,but hell no..What has actually happened to make people fell unsafe?Nothing,nada,zip..More bs from these lying delusional lunatic anti gun groups.

  9. avatar B Fitts says:

    I looked for this petition on both Facebook pages and it isn’t there anymore lol

  10. avatar Ralph says:

    Forcing Kroger’s hand would have been a coup for MDA because of Kroger’s size — it’s the country’s largest supermarket chain by revenue and second-largest general retailer, behind only Walmart. But it seems that MDA has bitten off more than it can chew.

    Nevertheless, gungrabbers are relentless, especially when they are financed by Bloomberg’s huge money. I expect that MDA will open up a second front at shareholder meetings and try to pressure Kroger’s management from the inside.

    Rust never sleeps. Neither do the forces of citizen disarmament.

    1. avatar BDub says:

      “But it seems that MDA has bitten off more than it can chew.’

      What more can you expect from a toothless organization.

      1. avatar barnbwt says:

        “Mom’s Demand More than they can Chew” …lol

  11. avatar Benny the Jew says:

    Businesses take note: not only do you have zero to fear from ignoring or standing up to MDA and Everytown, you may actually get a little richer in doing so! Nothing to lose, and good bit to gain.

  12. avatar Joelt1 says:

    Here’s the link to the petition. I half-expected MDA to censor the comments on the post myself, but perhaps MDA’s facebook editor left to go work on Clinton’s campaign..?

    https://www.facebook.com/MomsDemandAction/posts/773744669410122

    I was getting them on my Facebook page all the time, and when I clicked the “Why am I seeing this post?” button, I was told that it was because MDA was specifically reaching out to people that had Kroger tagged in their employment history.

  13. avatar pod says:

    MDA/Everytown is using what’s called Open Graph search on Facebook. Try it for yourself.

    Type “People Who Work For Kroger” in the Facebook search bar. Then you will get a list of people who work at Kroger. It could be a few hundred or a few thousand. Depends on who is doing the query.

    From that list you can use one of many tools to harvest the Facebook numeric user IDs of all those people. Pop it into a CSV (Excel) file and then upload that list into your Facebook ads manager. Then create an ad focusing on those people.

    TTAG could do this, and target “People Who Like Moms Demand Action”. Then do an ad speaking to them exclusively.

    We’ve got to beat them at their own game.

    1. avatar MarkPA says:

      “MDA/Everytown is using what’s called Open Graph search on Facebook.”

      I take it that the sponsor of the ad – MDA/Everytown in this case – controls the content of the Facebook page. If that’s the case, a Webmaster on the MDA/Everytown payroll ought to scrub-out the responses from this Facebook page that don’t meet it’s standards for PCness.

      Conversely, if some organization – let’s call it PotG.Org – and used Open Graph to target “People Who Like Moms Demand Action” then the PotG Webmaster would control the content of responding comments.

      Hmmmmmm. Could get interesting.

      PotG just want to “have a conversation” – a real conversation.

      We could control the content in a novel way. Suppose we:

      – display – in the usual way – whichever comments seem to directly address the issues whether pro or con.
      – suppress comments that are ad hominem attacks, marking them as such, and allowing the curious reader to click on such suppressed comments and see the text which the Webmaster finds unworthy on that account.
      – suppress comments that are off-point or redundant (or otherwise unworthy) marking them as such and allowing the curious reader to click and see.

      The strident Pro-Rights and Gun-Control commenters would – sooner or later – get frustrated by having their useless comments suppressed.

      Such a site would attract those (few?) individuals who are uncommitted, or merely sympathetic to gun-control, would eventually find the “conversation” they genuinely want to be informed by. Is this idea commercially viable? Would it work? Who has the infrastructure to kick-it-off and maintain it?

  14. avatar Joelt1 says:

    I like the comment that one person left, “That’s not even a Kroger!” ….. True enough, the pictures in their “Groceries not Guns” campaign aren’t taken at a Kroger store. My guess, they were denied the request to come in and take pictures, so they went to a sprouts or something instead.

    1. avatar JFrame says:

      Sprouts already has their 30.06 sign up, so I just moved on to Kroger.

  15. avatar NYC2AZ says:

    I’ve switched my shopping from Safeway to Fry’s. Safeway has lost my business due to their choices and Fry’s has gained it… “Capitalism, a love story.”

  16. avatar barnbwt says:

    *damp squid. The phrase is “damp squid.”

    1. avatar Joelt1 says:

      http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/a+damp+squib

      It’s a similar, but valid phrasing. A squib being a type of firework.

      1. avatar Another Robert says:

        “Damp squib” was the original phrase I expect. I’ve never heard of “damp squid” until just now.

        1. avatar barnbwt says:

          watch more British comedies 😉

        2. avatar Another Robert says:

          aha… 🙂

        3. avatar Geoff PR says:

          I’m familiar with the military meaning, ‘squib load or squib round’, much like a gun with a bad powder charge that leaves the bullet lodged on the rifling lands.

          That turns into a ‘Ka-Boom’ when you fire another round into it…

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_load

  17. avatar Bob says:

    So tell me, Culture, how does MDA’s strategy taste?

    1. avatar sagebrushracer says:

      hrmm, interesting flavoring. I am getting strong Misguided Self Righteousness and Media Darling with hints of Lost Cause and Desperation.

  18. avatar Sixpack70 says:

    Shame on those #gunbullies and keeping all of those criminals out of the store and from harming others while shopping! Imagine what would happen to all of those poor criminals if those open carries were out in the parking lot! Then the criminals wouldn’t be able to rob anyone, but people would “feel” safe so that is what counts the most.

  19. avatar Governmentknowsbest says:

    Nice lol

  20. avatar Eric G. says:

    Heh, As a 3 year Kroger employee in the middle TN area, I can state as a fact that two thirds of the people who work in my store have their carry permits, and most of them have their carry pieces in their cars at all time.
    We are not allowed to keep them in store while on the clock but if we are in the store off hours you’d be surprised how many open carry guns you see.
    Never once had anyone complain about them either. Two of our LP/Security Guards are retired marines also. To quote Mr. T, I pity the fool who tries to start something at my store

  21. avatar Paul53 says:

    Gotta love the anti’s. The harder they try, the crazier they’re revealed to be!

  22. avatar James Stewart says:

    Kroger has a marvelous cheese selection. That has nothing to do with firearms but cheese is great.

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