Off Duty Officer Drops Gun On Playground, 6-Year-Old Picks It Up

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By Brandon via concealednation.org

An off-duty Webb City, Missouri police officer was at a playground with his family when his child had become distressed while on top of the slide. The officer climbed the slide to retrieve his child and at some point, his holstered firearm fell out and onto the ground. Where this story gets really bad . . .

is when a 6-year-old child found the firearm and pulled the trigger, sending a bullet into a nearby slide.

No one was injured.

There is no mention of the type of holster that the officer was using to house his off-duty firearm, but it sounds like it didn’t offer much in the way of retention. I am not sure as to the orientation of the officer or his holster, but it seems that it should have been secured better than it was.

For example, climbing a slide should not interfere with a properly holstered firearm.

Responsibility: It’s for everyone.

comments

  1. avatar Frank says:

    Only LEOs and military are trained enough……Never mind.

    1. avatar The Original Brad says:

      Sarcasm – I recognize it. A rational person gets it and scoffs, but we’re not talking about rational people here. We’re tlking about peple who have a whole different World View. To them, the incident shows only this: “If that can happen to a trained LEO, imagine what could happen to a regular civilian!! The horror!!!””

  2. avatar Lucas D. says:

    Cops negligently leave the darnedest things where kids can find them.

  3. avatar MattL says:

    This sort of thing is exactly why I make my holsters with a lot of retention. Something might still cause my gun to get pulled out, but it’d have to be a lot of force, and I’m definitely going to feel it come off.

  4. avatar RetMSgt in Pa. says:

    Exactly how does one not notice the missing weight of the sidearm?

    1. avatar Virginia Gunner says:

      I wondered that too. I can see how you might not notice an LCP or other micro poly .380 fall out as light as they are. I sometimes wake up from a couch nap with mine on and don’t immediately realize I am still carrying. And that is the kind of gun a 6 year old would have no trouble pulling the trigger on with small hands.

      But if the guy was carrying his duty gun, like a Glock or Sig, then good question. How the hell did he NOT feel it fall out?

      1. avatar Karl says:

        My friend when off duty, carried a small.380 not his duty weapon.

  5. avatar Ralph says:

    The officer must be terribly traumatized. His recovery will require a month off (with pay) and a promotion.

    The six year old shooter was arrested for felony firearms possession and is currently being held on $10,000 cash bail.

    1. avatar Rick the Bear says:

      Ralph,

      I could certainly see that here in MA. After all, the child didn’t have an LTC.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        And in Washington it would be an illegal transfer.

    2. avatar Anonymous says:

      LOL!

      Leave it to Ralph.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to leave ammo.

        1. avatar Rick the Bear says:

          Which/what caliber(s)? 8>)

        2. avatar JR_in_NC says:

          ,22 LR, of course. If he doesn’t need it himself, he can sure trade it for others.

          .22 ammo…the new currency.

        3. avatar Ralph says:

          JR FTW.

    3. avatar IdahoPete says:

      AND the police department is suing the holster maker and the gun maker for selling “unsafe products that might fall into the hands of a child.”

  6. avatar Sammy says:

    I guess anybody can be a cop.

    1. avatar Stinkeye says:

      Not so; some departments will disqualify a candidate whose IQ is too high. I guess if you’re going to aim low, you shouldn’t be surprised when you hit the target.

      1. avatar Rog Uinta says:

        This is absolutely 100% true. And the courts have said it’s OK.

        http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

  7. avatar Sexual Tyrannosaurus says:

    >Responsibility: It’s for everyone.

    Except government “employees”.

  8. avatar gemalo says:

    You’re never too young to meet Eddie Eagle.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      . . . and shoot him.

  9. avatar Anonymous says:

    Where’s David K???

    He’s going to pop in here any minute telling us how much “Cop Hate” we are spreading on this incident and all cops in general.

  10. avatar Mikial says:

    Great, one more thing for the antis to point to as evidence that all guns are evil and all gun owners are negligent. Wouldn’t it be nice if cops were actually trained adequately to carry a gun?

    1. avatar Silver says:

      The antis entire mantra is that only our governmental overlords and their costumed enforcers are good enough to own and carry guns, so this story is one of many that blows that narrative out of the water. They’ll bury this.

  11. avatar ThomasR says:

    Many people carry a CC weapon with no extra retention system other than a tight fitting holster. Bad idea.

    1. avatar MDC says:

      says you.

  12. avatar Indiana Tom says:

    when a 6-year-old child found the firearm and pulled the trigger, sending a bullet into a nearby slide. Gee, that was fun, can we do it again?

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      That kid’s a loser — he was aiming for the teeter-totter.

      1. avatar Pieslapper says:

        Much better muzzle discipline than a NYC cop.

      2. avatar Gunr says:

        I wonder how he would do on dogs! Two hits out of three, and he can skip basic training!

  13. avatar Rick the Bear says:

    gemalo,

    I was thinking along those lines as well: too bad the youth didn’t take some wort of “don’t touch” safety class.

    If only some organization offered such a class……..

    1. avatar Dustin says:

      I thought the Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Moms had something about Freddy Beagle or something. You know. Safety. For the Children?

      Oh, wait, no… That was some other people that actually give a damn.

  14. avatar Will says:

    Where’s the Glock hate? What are the odds that this was a Glock?

    I blame Glock.

    1. avatar Dustin says:

      No manual safety.

      Happy now?

    2. avatar NWGlocker says:

      it was the short trigger pull

  15. avatar Roymond says:

    Whoa. The piece I wear in case of coyotes stays on crawling through brush, going up a ladder, even climbing trees. I want to know what this guy was using, so I can make sure to never get one.

    1. avatar Mikial says:

      Isn’t it interesting how people will spend hundreds of dollars on a gun and then scrimp and buy a $15 holster? I use a $60 Crossbreed IWB and I can pretty much guarantee that i will not lose my gun no matter what I’m doing . . . as long as i have my pants on. 😉

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        I’m glad you didn’t forget to put that last part in.

  16. avatar Chip Bennett says:

    Research project idea: negligent discharge number/rate, LEO, law-abiding non-LEO, and criminal non-LEO: comparative.

    1. avatar Dustin says:

      Seems like an obvious thing to compile what with all the “highly trained only ones” crap the libtards throw around.

    2. avatar FedUp says:

      The cops will outscore the law abiding hands down, if only because cops handle guns every day, and a whole lot of other gun owners, even CWP holders, don’t.
      I suspect the cops will beat the gang bangers in the ND department too.

      1. avatar Dustin says:

        Or maybe its the huge ego coupled with a total absence of gun safety?

        1. avatar Silver says:

          And the arrogance that comes with knowing they’ll suffer no consequences. Citizens are more careful because they have more at stake when they carry.

      2. avatar Chip Bennett says:

        The cops will outscore the law abiding hands down, if only because cops handle guns every day, and a whole lot of other gun owners, even CWP holders, don’t.

        Your assertion presumes that regular carry of firearms increases the likelihood of a negligent discharge. I would assert to the contrary, that it is improper handling of firearms that increases the likelihood of negligent discharge.

        Regardless, to test the point: make a subset of daily permitted/constitutional carriers, to differentiate them from those who merely lawfully possess, but do not regularly carry, firearms.

    3. avatar gman says:

      Chip – Whoa there buddy. What about the law-abiding LEO and criminal LEO categories? After all, apples must be apples.

      1. avatar Chip Bennett says:

        By “law-abiding”, I’m referring to people in lawful possession of the firearm. I assume that all LEO fall into that category, so no need to differentiate.

        It might be instructive to differentiate between permitted/daily carriers (including those who carry “constitutionally”), and those who merely own, but do not regularly carry.

  17. avatar Pieslapper says:

    “I am not sure as to the orientation of the officer…”

    Why are we questioning his sexuality? /sarc.

  18. avatar FedUp says:

    How in the world???

    Pocket carry? I can see that easily, if you knee gets higher than your hip, it could drop right out of your pocket. And any holster you can slip in your pocket isn’t going to have level III retention.

  19. avatar Hannibal says:

    Oh for fuck’s sake. I’m all for forgiving mistakes, but this is just too much. I have seen cops off-duty who had stupid cheap “Mike’s” holsters that fall off easily and that’s bad enough, but on a playground? There is just no excuse I can think of for this.

    One of two things has to happen. One: departments need to mandate holsters the same way many mandate particular carry guns. This sucks for those officers who are not idiots and will no longer be able to pick and choose an effective means of carry based around their individual needs.

    Or two, the better option: someone moronic enough to screw the pooch this bad is no longer part of the department. Not because he would make this mistake again- I doubt he would- but to show others that there is a price for that level of dumb.

    1. avatar Bob108 says:

      I had been an USAF SP in the 80’s. if we had “lost” a firearm like that, there would have been a minimum of 30-days corrective custody (jail) and a quick change of AFSC (fired) in our short military career.

  20. avatar Alan Longnecker says:

    No IGOTD?

  21. avatar Fuque says:

    Playgrounds are gun free zones

    1. avatar Stinkeye says:

      Apparently not.

    2. avatar Ray says:

      Playgrounds are free gun zones.

  22. avatar Russ Bixby says:

    Did they shoot the six year old during recovery of the dangerous thingie from unanointed hands?

    Was the six year old at least ticketed for unlawful possession and discharge? How about the negligent parent of the six year old?

    There’s a debt to society; who’s gonna pay it?!?

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