Question of the Day: What’s Your Favorite Bullpup?

Post people love ’em or hate ’em. On the pro side, they’re short, maneuverable and fun to shoot. As for cons, mag changes can be awkward, ejection can be an adventure and some people are a little skittish about having a round (especially a 12 gauge, in the case of the KSG) going boom immediately adjacent to their face. But if you’ve shot one, you know that they can be a hell of a lot of fun. Not to mention an effective home defense option. Iraq Veteran 8888 (above) seems particularly taken with the FN P90. And why not? What’s your favorite bullpup gun?

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  1. avatar Bob S says:

    IWI Tavor. It takes Pmags! 😀

    1. avatar TheBear says:

      That’s why I like my MSAR E4

    2. avatar Jeremy S says:

      Love my Tavor. Took to it immediately and it’s my go-to rifle.

      1. avatar Avid Reader says:

        Me too. I likes me my Tavor.

      2. avatar JSIII says:

        Gotta 3rd the Tavor love. It is my go to SHTF rifle now, replacing my LAR-15. It is a little heavier than the LAR-15 but the Ergos make up for it.

    3. avatar Art out West says:

      Tragically, I don’t own one yet, and have never even shot one! Dreadful! I like the idea of the bull-pup, and the Tavor is the one that interests me most.

      I guess that is part of the problem with being a cheap gun guy. I can compare Mosin 91/30 vs M44, Marlin 60 vs 795, Sigma vs Hi-Point, Pardner Pump vs Stevens 320, but not Tavor vs Aug.

      1. avatar Lost Down South says:

        Art-

        Take a look at Shernic Gun Works and their SKS bullpup stock.

        http://sgworks.com/

        If you already have an SKS (preferably a Norinco, not a “collectable” model), a couple hundred bucks gets you in the door.

    4. avatar Guy says:

      +1. The TAVOR is GTG.

      Trigger tweaks and complete replacements are also available without permanent alteration of the rifle, and are super easy to install and replace in seconds.

      The rearward center of gravity also makes it more manageable to shooters with limited upper body strength with no need for and adjustable stock.

      Right and left-handed versions and conversions are available, but it’s also reasonably ambidextrous in any configuration.

      There are many benefits to the TAVOR such that if I had to pick just one semi auto carbine, assuming equal availability of replacement parts (which I know isn’t a reality), it’s probably the one I’d go with. It shares the stable with my AR’s though, and they get along quite nicely.

    5. avatar Jim R says:

      Same here. No question about it.

  2. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    Love the P90!

  3. I love my PS90. Just wish I could afford to shoot it more often.

  4. avatar Colin in CA says:

    FN FS2000

    1. avatar William B. says:

      Same here. I’m a lefty, and I love the front ejection, not the least of all for the looks you get at the range when NOTHING comes out of the gun for the first few rounds until the tube fills with brass, like, “Hey, where’s the brass going?!” Some hate the looks, but I kinda like the Space Invaders thing. And it’s ergonomic as heck, with an incredibly accurate barrel.

  5. avatar Rick the Bear says:

    AUG! AUG! AUG! (A3 variant)

    (I will acknowledge that the PS90 is very cool. Its food isn’t cheap.)

    1. avatar Red in Texas says:

      +1

    2. avatar Danny Griffin says:

      (I will acknowledge that the PS90 is very cool. Its food isn’t cheap.

      $19.95 / 50 rds. for FN ammo (or $17.99 for AE) isn’t that bad. I already have two Five-seveNs, no need for a P90. I’d like a Tavor.

    3. avatar custom7 says:

      +1, after getting a Tavor I am not seeing how a stock tavor trigger is necessarily better than an AUG A3 a neu trigger.

    4. avatar Dan A says:

      Another vote for the AUG A3 here, though if I were left handed I’d probably change my mind due to the placement of the charging handle and accessory rail.

  6. avatar Dustin says:

    I <3 my RFB! Down with sissy bullets!

    1. avatar Nick says:

      I want one, but it’s a kel tec… I have never even seen one in person, let alone had the chance to buy one.

  7. avatar RKBA says:

    Like your children, you love them all the same, but some more than others for different reasons.

    My favorite is the one I am holding at any given moment. I <3 Bullpups!!!!

    The P90 is probably the finest of the bunch. Not so much the cartridge, but the bullpup, yes.

  8. avatar Tsn4 says:

    Never shot one, so for what it’s worth, I like the Tavor. If I had the $$ I would very likely own one.

  9. avatar PeterC says:

    I have a tough time choosing between my RFB and my Tavor. The Tavor is much handier, but the RFB is wonderfully noisy!

  10. avatar Ing says:

    Good question. I wish I could answer it with more experience.

    I’ve only ever shot one: a Ruger Mini-30 in a bullpup conversion stock. I’ve never encountered a heavier trigger pull. First try, I thought the safety was still on. Second try, I thought maybe something was broken. When I realized what I was dealing with, then the game was on. And it was a LOT of fun.

    I like the idea of the Tavor. It sounds like a heck of a machine, and I’d like to try one out sometime.

    1. avatar TTACer says:

      Assuming that was the muzzelite conversion. Biggest POS in the history of small arms. Not really comperable to anything else, even the worst knock-off Chicom AK conversions.

      1. avatar Ing says:

        If a POS bullpup is that fun and (despite the trigger) easy to handle, then I really do need to get my hands on a high-quality one.

  11. avatar TheBear says:

    I have multiple bullpups. I like them all.

    I’m looking forward to my DP-12 shotgun.

    1. avatar joe-in-NC says:

      I am very interested in the DP12 also

  12. avatar Josh says:

    Having never owned or fired a bullpup my opinion is pretty much for naught, but I’m most enamored of the DesertTech MDR.

    … if it ever ships and if I can ever afford one of course. In 7.62×51, too. I love the idea of big bullets from a small gun. And yes there is the RFB but it’s a Kel-Tec and a unicorn.

    1. avatar TheBear says:

      Small gun with big rounds? How about the GM6 Lynx.

      50 BMG bullpup with a reciprocating barrel. I want one. I may have to choose between a GM6 or an armored car in a year or two.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        God! I need one of those. I bet they’re cheap, too!

      2. avatar Geoff PR says:

        Now *that* looks cool!

  13. avatar Noishkel says:

    High Standard Model 10.

    Why? No reason. |3

    1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

      Saw one last weekend at the gun show. Had a 1700 price on it.
      Brought back fond memories

      1. avatar Noishkel says:

        Well believe it or not that’s where I saw that one at. Although I think that guy wanted over $2K. Plus the one I saw was really chewed up too. Rare piece or not that’s kind of ridiculous, IMHO.

  14. avatar Mike says:

    Never even handled a bullpup, but if I had to choose one that caught my eye it would be the Tavor – mainly because the 9mm conversion with the integral Manticore Arms/Ratworx supressor sounds like an ideal home defense weapon.

  15. avatar Ralph says:

    Tavor. The trigger not so much, but the same may be said of several bullpups.

  16. avatar preston says:

    draw between the AUG and the TAVOR, and a P90 lol

  17. avatar Brian says:

    I live the look of the Singapore SAR-21. Too bad I will (probably) never get to hold or shoot one.

  18. avatar Seth says:

    I have always wanted a collection of bullpups. I think it started with the AUG and then just increased when I saw the FS2000, etc.

  19. avatar Ross says:

    The ones I can’t get righ now… Desert Tech MDR & IWI X95.

  20. avatar Gunr says:

    My neighbor has a “Pit bull pup”
    Does that count??

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      It only counts of you were able to shoot it.

      1. avatar DJ says:

        The local SWAT team might shoot it. Would that count?

        1. avatar Gunr says:

          Only if they hit it at least once out of 500 rounds fired.

    2. avatar PeterDvornik says:

      You can’t own those in New York and Kalifornia, they arent on the state-approved list of dog breeds…

      1. avatar Broken 3ight says:

        Know who else tells living things they aren’t allowed to exist? Nazis.

  21. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Never shot one but fondled a few in the gun shop…just saw Michael Bane on Shooting Gallery in Israel. The bullpup Galil looked fantastic in full auto! Or it could have been a pistol with a brace. The Tavor looked great on auto too

  22. avatar nynemillameetuh says:

    I’ve never fired one, but the AUG balanced the best for me out of the triumvirate. Tavor felt like a 2×4 and the FS2000 felt like a fish.

    1. avatar Gbo says:

      If the fish you shouldered for feel comparison was a tuna, that explains why it felt that way. What we do know is that the tuna is a fish with superior ergonomics, if not a little bulky looking…

  23. avatar Defens says:

    I had an original AUG for awhile and really enjoyed it – sorry in a way that I sold it.

    My favorite, though, is my Bluegrass Armory Viper – single-shot .50 BMG with Lothar match barrel. If you don’t like having a 12 ga going off next to your face, having a 50 might make you even more skittish.

  24. avatar Kevin A. says:

    I like the look of the L85. I’ll never get to shoot one, though.

  25. avatar PeterK says:

    Haven’t shot any of them. :p Currently partial to the hebrew hammer, though.

    1. avatar Timmy! says:

      “Hebrew Hammer” is what I call my Tavor

  26. avatar Royal Tony says:

    I like the Cold War look of the Kel-Tec M-43. Especially if it ever gets chambered in 7.62 x 39, or put into production, or if I can find one… Bastards…

  27. avatar Rambeast says:

    Tavor, hands down. The trigger may be a bit heavy from the factory, but it beats the squishy triggers of the Aug and FS2000. The PS90 is nice, but the ergos are horrible, and the price to feed it is a deal breaker.

  28. avatar Chuck in IL says:

    Tavor, por favor.

  29. avatar Sdog says:

    I have a tavor and I really like it but my vote is for my NATO stock aug. I can use my ar15 mags with it. Maybe once I get the geissele trigger pack for my tavor my opinion will change.

  30. avatar knightofbob says:

    Not going to be a popular choice, but I’m fond of the Walther G22. My favorite plinker, and I haven’t experienced any of the failures supposedly common to them after thousands of rounds. If only they had caught on.

    1. avatar Timmy! says:

      I saw two of those at the last gun show. If one or the other is at the next show, and I have the money, it is following me home.

      1. avatar knightofbob says:

        I’d encourage that purchase, as long as it’s not your go-to .22 until proven. They’re supposedly finicky. I’ve tried to get mine to fail, and it just fires everything. I do clean it thoroughly after every session, but it’s a .22, I shoot bottles and squirrels with it.

  31. avatar arsh says:

    Tavor is the only one that’s ever peaked my interest but I’d rather just own an AR. The one’s I’ve seen are not worth the effort. One of my friends got one for free and he hardly touches it, that says a lot.

    1. avatar Nick says:

      I’d be glad to take it off his hands for him. I have an FDE one and love it. I hardly even touch my AR now. It’s more accurate and more comfortable to shoot, even with the 12lb trigger.

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        You might consider attaching an 11 pound pull, spring. to the trigger to pull in the opposite direction, getting your trigger down to a 1 pound pull.
        Probably not Kalifornia approved. In fact I don’t approve of it either.

  32. avatar jjimmyjonga says:

    tavor

  33. avatar GaPharmD says:

    My Tavor…post geissele trigger change. Not to mention with the 9mm conversion.

    1. avatar foo dog says:

      This is the way I’d like to go, someday. I like the proven operational history of Tavor.

      Like ropingdown pointed out, the 9mm conversion makes flash and sound much less damaging indoors to the shooter, using one for home defense.

  34. avatar savaze says:

    A few years back I was in northern California shooting at an old friends ranch with my father and wife in-tow. My father had a Beretta .22 bullpup that ruined my wife on the rest of my long arms. She fired that thing all day, refusing to share. I barely got a look at it, so I don’t even know what model it was. I should have offered to buy it, my dad had it in trade and traded it for something else after we left. Ever since that day she’s not interested in using any of my guns. She has some of her own, but she’s never been that interested in shooting, usually only lasting for 20 minutes or so.

    Pros according to her – less arm fatigue, less bulky (I think she meant shorter or compact because it was kind of a chunk’ster), cute

    Cons according to her – you had to fight the magazine to get it out (you had to press the mag release while physically jerking the mag out, nothing looked out of place when I inspected it so I must be a design feature – though I have no experience with the gun)

  35. avatar Don Nelson says:

    Had a Valmet M82 back in the ’80s. It was very well-made, but had the usual sloppy trigger due to the linkage. Bullpups seem to be a solution looking for a problem.

    1. avatar Raoul Duke says:

      If you don’t think having SBR-like handling characteristics without losing terminal ballistics allowing one to avoid the NFA’s BS as well as being a viable home defense weapon with its compactness are “solutions looking for a problem” then I do not know what to tell you.

      Basing your experience on the M82 is a fool’s errand when bullpups have not only come a long way since then but the M82 is considered one of the worst bullpups ever made. If you are going to make a sweeping negative generalization of bullpups at least do it from a better, more-proven system like an AUG or Tavor. The Tavor with an upgraded trigger is a fine system and I guess you have not heard of K&M Arms M17S which boasts one of the nicest triggers out there that rival if not surpass triggers on standard rifles if that is your sole basis for bashing bullpups.

      https://youtu.be/gyjb7taxaK8

  36. avatar joe-in-NC says:

    I shot a Tavor, it was pretty nice except for the trigger. I am reserving making a decision until the MDR has been out for awhile. That gives me time to get an AR10 in the interim, sr762 or dpms g2.

  37. avatar Bob says:

    IF they make a decent one in 7.62×39 I’ll probably pick one up. The tavor interests me but not enough to drop 1800 on a niche gun. I kicked a lot of doors and never felt that the m4 was a hinderance. I could see how private security operating out of a smaller armored car would beg to differ but I’m not shooting from inside the humvee anyway and that is where i see this thing shining.

  38. avatar Michael says:

    SA80, Please can we have a .22lr version

  39. avatar Charlie says:

    I like that they think highly of the AUG, but why are they basing that on an MSAR? And their recommendation to get a used MSAR instead of a genuine AUG is 180 degrees out of phase with mine.

    How the heck do I post an image?

  40. avatar Timmy! says:

    Well, let’s just count the Bullpups I have: Tavor, SKS in an Shernic Gun Works stock, Saiga 7.62×39 in a Kushnapup stock, Remington 870 in a Bullpup Unlimited stock, Mosin Nagant in a CBRPS stock, and a 10/22 in a Hightower Industries stock (looks like a PS90!)

    And the ones I have let go of for one reason or another: Kushnapup Saiga 12, Mossberg 500 in that chunky blocky stock with the square handle on top (can’t remember who made it), annnnnnd…. I guess that’s all of them.

    If I had to choose just one though… Tavor. Two: Tavor and SKS. Three: Tavor, SKS, 870. Four….

    No, wait! That was before the tragic boating accident! I don’t have ANY guns now.

  41. avatar Russ Bixby says:

    The P90; it’s like a Chevrolet Suburban: unpretentious, functional and promises nothing which it cannot deliver.

    1. avatar Charlie says:

      Except a full compliment of working lights? That comparison in no way enhanced my appreciation of the PS90! lol

  42. avatar Al Booth says:

    Either one of my two AUGs – a rare A2, or a later A3. Desert tan, black and green stocks, along with a NATO stock and trigger pack, which allows me to use AR mags.

    Great triggers on mine with a Ratworx sear bar. Extended top rail with case deflector, so you can shoot from the left shoulder without getting hit with fired cases, from One Source Tactical. Best ergonomics of all of them.

    Interchangeable barrels, from 16″ (my usual) to a 24″ heavy barrel.

  43. avatar Sixpack70 says:

    I own a Tavor and a PS90. They are both great and they both serve different purposes for me. I’ve held an FS2000 and an AUG and I prefer the Tavor over them although I want a Tactical Tuna. Especially since they are no longer made. I also had a Kushnapup Saiga 12. That thing was a lot of fun! I did sell it so I could pay for the Tavor.

  44. avatar Lbx1911 says:

    Recently SBR’d my ps90. I love it even more now.

    If I were to get another bullpup it’d be a big toss up between the Tavor and the Aug.

  45. avatar 1919a6 says:

    High Standard 10b old school rules

  46. avatar Raoul Duke says:

    It is a draw for me between the Tavor and AUG. Both offer their pro’s and con’s over each other.

    To put it bluntly the Tavor is more ergonomic and reliable but the AUG is more comfortable shooting and compact.

  47. avatar racer88 says:

    My favorite bullpup is the (only) one I own…. the FS2000.

    The trigger is a bit weird, but it doesn’t bother me. My only issue is getting a cheek weld without displacing my ear pro. Neat gun. Showing up at the range with one is like driving up to your high school reunion in a Ferrari. It gets a lot of attention.

    The PS90 is on my wish list. I’ve already got the Five-seveN pistol. And, I’ve got at least a half-dozen 50-rd magazines for the PS90. Now, I just need the rifle!

  48. avatar veloxsouth says:

    I’ve been holding out for an MDR when they finally come out.
    But if the Hughes Amendment gets struck down like I’m hoping, then I’ll get a P90 in addition to converting the MDR to full auto.

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