NY Grand Jury No-Bills Convicted Killer for Bringing a Gun to Court

Terrance Washington (courtesy nypost.com)

“Terrance Washington was on his way to Brooklyn Supreme Court on Nov. 26 to face an assault charge for allegedly breaking a man’s arm with a bat,” nypost.com reports, “when a court officer operating a security X-ray machine detected the loaded .22-caliber handgun in his bag, court papers state. Washington, 41, was slapped with felony gun charges. But he was never indicted because the grand jury bought his excuse — that the bag wasn’t his and he didn’t know there was a gun inside, law-enforcement sources said. ‘He said it wasn’t his bag and he borrowed his cousin’s bag. That’s why the gun was in there,’ said a law-enforcement source.” Ignorance is no excuse under the law. Unless it is. Too bad Mr. Washington wasn’t a ham sandwich. Right? [h/t DD]

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  1. avatar GeniusBandit says:

    It looks like one of those cheap Jennings .22 pistols.

    1. avatar louringe says:

      Funny it looks like a Raven 25 to me?

      1. avatar Wendy Fox says:

        It sure does, I just sold one a few weeks ago.

  2. avatar Another Robert says:

    That’s “ignorance of the law is no excuse”, RF. If the elements of the offense include a “knowing” state of mind, ignorance of a particular fact could indeed be an excuse.

    1. avatar Barstow Cowboy says:

      I guess that settles it…we need more laws.

  3. avatar Dave s says:

    Well did they charge the cuz? Seems the truth might shake out

    1. avatar JasonM says:

      The cousin didn’t take the gun to court.
      As long as he had all the necessary NYC red tape to legally own a gun, there shouldn’t be an issue.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        He’s a convicted killer according to the post. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess he’s a prohibited person.

        1. avatar Another Robert says:

          They’re talking about the cousin, no indication he’s a felon. And “prohibited person” possessing a weapon is a fed offense, NJ GJ wouldn’t be concerned with that.

        2. avatar jwm says:

          Says, Grand Jury No Bills Convicted Killer. To me that indicates dude busted with gun. He blamed his cousin for loaning him a loaded bag.

    2. avatar David P. says:

      That’s my question too. At the very least they charge the cousin with transferring the firearm. At most they charge with transferring to a felon-not sure if he is a felon. Remember this is a state that registers firearms so you can’t just give your cousin a gun

      1. avatar Tim T. says:

        It almost sounds like you want them to charge the cousin? Why? or am I misreading here.

  4. avatar DrVino says:

    Does anyone know how to riot?

    1. avatar jwm says:

      Um, no. I’m an OFWG. Unless they close kripy kreme there’s no reason for me to riot.

      1. avatar Accur81 says:

        South Central LA is a little crippy. And they definitely know how to riot. Just be careful where you where your colors.

    2. avatar Anonymous says:

      I saw on tv once a guy lit a car on fire, but I’m not exactly sure how it is done. Does anyone know how to burn down a convenience store?

      1. avatar Pieslapper says:

        Eat a couple of convenience store burritos then light the resulting flatulence.

      2. avatar John M. says:

        I’ll stop by Bass Pro tomorrow and see if they have anything that we can use.

        1. avatar Geoff PR says:

          “I’ll stop by Bass Pro tomorrow and see if they have anything that we can use.”

          Tannerite? 🙂

          “You will believe a police cruiser can fly…”

      3. avatar v v ind says:

        I have a few hammers, you guys can borrow them, I won’t need them for a day or two.

      4. avatar v v ind says:

        Oh BTW, come up with a few catchy phrases for the signs. Be sure to keep them short, they need to also fit on NFL cleats and NBA warm up shirts.

    3. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

      I guess we could youtube it, but I never even know what to wear to a riot. So I’m waiting for the L.L. Bean Spring Riot Collection to come out.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        Phuck me. White guys can’t disco and they can’t riot.

      2. avatar Geoff PR says:

        “I never even know what to wear to a riot.”

        Kevlar and trauma plates never go out of style for discerning rioters…

    4. avatar B Free me Bro says:

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      Everyone else can try again tomorrow.

  5. avatar Marcus (Aurelius) Payne says:

    I bet that excuse wouldn’t work if he had a joint in his bag.

    1. avatar C says:

      Or a large soda.

    2. avatar SeanD says:

      Or, God forbid, an evil cigarette

  6. avatar Ralph says:

    It was his cousin’s bag? Wow. That’s inventive. It must have taken Mr. Washington a whole day to come up with that. It’s a thrilling variation on the “SODDI defense” — Some Other Dude Done It.

    1. avatar Another Robert says:

      We called it the “Buck” defense when I was doing DWI-related license suspensions. Some arrestee at the suspension hearing said he let a fellow named “Buck”, previously completely unknown to him, drive his car, and him, home from the bar , but sadly, they didn’t make it before “Buck’s” erratic driving got them stopped by the Dallas law. More sadly, “Buck” somehow managed to completely disappear by the time the officers made the trip from their car to the defendant’s. The guy kept a straight face the whole time he was telling it, too…

    2. avatar Hannibal says:

      A variation of the always hilarious “not my pants” defense.

      “Oh that weed? It’s not mine. Why was it in my pocket? Well, these aren’t my pants. Oh I don’t know, some guy.”

      “Some Guy” has warrants out in every state…

      1. avatar Yellow Devil says:

        “Some Guy” is the Gremlin or Yeti of the law enforcement world.

  7. avatar Cincinnatus says:

    Is this a variation of the notorious “These aren’t my pants” defense?

  8. avatar Roymond says:

    Ignorance of the law should be an excuse, now that we have more pages of law than the Bible, Apocrypha, Qur’an, and several other holy books put together.

    I’d make a simple limit on federal law: they have to publish them once a year, and randomly pick a thousand people to read those laws and then take a multiple-choice test about them. ANy law no one gets rights is tossed, and the rest are ranked by failure. Taken the mean result, and that’s how many laws they get to keep; for example, if the mean score is 74%, then they run 74% of the way down the list starting with the best-known laws, and any found below that line are thrown out.

    1. avatar Anonymous says:

      Ignorance of the law should be an excuse, now that we have more pages of law than the Bible, Apocrypha, Qur’an, and several other holy books put together.

      Bingo! +1

      There are so many laws that lawyers don’t know the law. Judges don’t know the law. Cops don’t know the law. But… regular citizens – no excuse people. No excuse.

    2. avatar Chris. says:

      i’ve had a better idea for that constitutional amendment:

      1) all legislation is to be single subject with intended purpose included in plain text. Eg. This legislation is intended to provide benefit “x” which should be realized by time period “y”

      2). all legislation should have a 5 year review, with an up down vote–

      3) with up vote . Immediate 2nd vote for option to amend, “Within purpose statement”.

      4) with down vote: immediate 2nd vote to amend (Including amend purpose statement) or simple strike the law.

      5) if 5 year review is not completed law automatically sunsets.

      I call it “Common Sense Legislation Control”

      1. avatar Roymond says:

        Do both — it’ll trim down the laws faster.

        I’ve heard more than a few Republicans assert that federal tax law ought to at least fit in a book no larger than the Bible. I don’t see why that shouldn’t just apply to all federal law, period

    3. avatar bozo says:

      I fully support and agree with this suggestion. One almost needs counsel to walk down the street these days. Read recently the average American unknowingly commits 3 felonies per day. (which has been around a while apparently, and has probably risen)

      1. avatar ropingdown says:

        Almost? The only reason folks don’t have attorney escort is the matter of cost. People who can afford it have attorneys at their beck and call 24/7, and they don’t do a lot of walking on public pavement.

      2. avatar Roymond says:

        I’ve got the book Three Felonies a Day — it’s scary, definitely worth reading.

  9. avatar Rokurota says:

    White cop no billed. Black alleged felon no-billed. Maybe the problem is New York grand juries.

  10. avatar Model66 says:

    Austin Powers defense.
    This sort of thing ain’t my bag, baby!

  11. avatar Anonymous says:

    I have no problem with Mr. Washington’s assertion that the bag wasn’t his and he was not aware of it’s contents. Given Mr. Washington’s current dilemma and probable intelligence quotient, it is entirely possible that he actually took a bag to the supreme court without actually checking the contents of the bag.

  12. avatar SemperFlyBoy says:

    Another worthy recipient of the “No-Bills prize”.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      Worthy?

      I don’t think that word means what you think it means…

      Worthy would be that guy who shot the guy who was robbing that bar in Texas and hauled ass outtathere before LE showed up…

  13. avatar Al Bondigas says:

    It looks like he has two holes in his head (above his left eye), so maybe he can use the brain damage defense. Or maybe God just gave him a couple of spare assholes to lie out of.

  14. avatar Wibbins says:

    Oh looks like he got one of those Lorcin L22’s, that’s 1 loud ass gun, also had he fired it he would have have fun chambering another round

  15. avatar Hannibal says:

    So can we stop hearing from liberal commentators how a grand jury will indict anyone except a white cop?

  16. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    But I thought they shot all the black men withguns…

  17. avatar David B. says:

    New York has case law on the books that states if you are in a room and there is a gun in that room, anyone in that room is presumed to be in possession of that gun and all present can be convicted of illegal possession even if they had no knowledge the gun was there.

    It appears the prosecutor did not explain the law well to the grand jury.

    1. avatar JoshuaS says:

      You don’t need to make crap up. There is no case law that says anything like that. If someone told you there was, actually read the case and I would bet you everything I own that it doesn’t say that.

      Don’t believe everything you read.

      1. avatar cmeat says:

        does too!

  18. avatar John Fritz - HMFIC says:

    And my h/t to Mr. Glenn Reynolds: Ham Sandwich Nation: Due Process When Everything Is a Crime

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