Quote of the Day: Realistic Expectations Edition

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“We have had increased patrols. Sometimes you don’t always see it. It’s a little bit of a false expectation to say, ‘If a crime occurs, it’s [because of] a lack of police.'” – Chicago Alderman Michele Smith in Lincoln Park Robbery Victim Escapes After He Says Gun Pointed at His Head [at dnachicago.com]

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  1. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

    Great! Now with the increased patrols they’ve cut the response time down to 16 minutes!

  2. avatar Shire-man says:

    Sorry to break it to her but plenty of crime occurs right in front of police and police themselves commit plenty of crimes.

    Crime doesnt give two shits if there’s a cop within arms reach.

    1. avatar T-DOG says:

      Oct. 11, 2014
      SEATTLE – One man died in an overnight shootout in Belltown and two others ended up in the hospital. The suspect fled; the 20-year-old victim was found dead in a parking lot with a gun in his hand.

      McGehee and others want police to do more, but officers were standing just 40 feet away from the shooting.
      “We arrived within 10 to 15 seconds at the time the gunfire finished,” Detective Drew Fowler told KIRO 7 at the scene.

      http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/one-dead-two-injured-belltown-shooting/nhgn3/

      Maybe Michael Frost should move back to Seattle…… or maybe not…….

      1. avatar John Galt says:

        So this would be one of those rare occasions that when seconds count, the police are, in fact, seconds away.

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        This can’t be right. 20-year-olds aren’t allowed to have handguns.

  3. avatar Vhyrus says:

    When a gun points at my head, I usually tell the gun that it’s not nice to point, then ask if it’s parents are nearby….

    1. avatar v v ind says:

      These days it not polite to spank other people’s guns.

      1. avatar Amok! says:

        corporal gunishment?

      2. avatar Daily Beatings says:

        “This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun.”

        So it depends on who’s doing the “spanking”. 🙂

        1. avatar Accur81 says:

          Wow, that really went downhill quickly.

  4. avatar the ruester says:

    Some story. The guy was lucky to be in shape and able to outrun his attackers. The fact that the police couldn’t locate him because they had pursued him for nearly two blocks by the time they arrived is jarring. You really are all alone…

  5. avatar Pascal says:

    I am not sure which is more sad, that alderman’s statement or some of the comments under the story including this gem

    They probably had fake guns or no bullets — lots of robber aren’t going to chase you for long or shoot you when they got nothing from you

    There are others saying that the whole thing is made up.

    Do these people commenting work for the Alderman or are they delusional?

  6. Michelle is a bit of a flake and not too popular within her ward but she’s a solid ‘yes’ vote for Rahm and that’s all that matters. She once pleaded with local businesses to plaster that stupid “no guns” sign in their windows because… well, because that sort of thing works apparently.

    Also, this incident took place just a few blocks from her office.

    Illustrating Chicago Crime, Murder and Mayhem at http://www.heyjackass.com.

    1. avatar John M. says:

      Some readers of this site will also be interested in Second City Cop: http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/?m=1.

      It’s quite eye-opening.

  7. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

    Waiting for people in chicago to get up to speed like st Louis ccw’ers have and start responding, shall we say “appropriately”

    1. avatar Illinois_Minion says:

      Too many sheeple for that to happen. Wandering minlessly around thinking they are safe from that form of mischeif.

    2. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

      Remember you’re talking about a whole city full of Cubs fans.

    3. avatar JeffR says:

      I have been pleasantly surprised at how few no gun signs have been put up in Chicago but, unfortunately, there is one sitting on my office building. And my firm’s management is rabidly anti-gun. So I remain disarmed in Chicago. But every once in awhile, when a colleague is dealing with some crazy pro se plaintiff, I do occasionally hear, “Would it be so bad if we let Jeff bring a gun to work?”

      1. avatar Avid Reader says:

        Except if you ride the CTA, you’re still screwed.

      2. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

        I was at an executive meeting just this week when, during a break for an executive power lunch (read: Subway sandwiches and chips), the topic of concealed handgun license photos came up. The idea was whether you should look your best for that photo or just show up as is, since it might be shown to the jury if the God-forbid should occur. Out of a dozen+ people around the conference table, all but two (one man, one woman) produced carry licenses and everyone exchanged comments on each other’s photos.

        While that company is Texas-incorporated, it’s also a subsidiary of a foreign company; which, of course, officially bans firearms on company premises. So nobody could explicitly declare whether they were armed at that instant. But everybody just knew, without knowing.

    4. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Dirk, I agree. First thing I thought was she’s correct, more cops won’t change anything, you need more CC. It really seems obvious.

  8. avatar MamaLiberty says:

    “Frost said he was wearing headphones and talking to someone on the phone when the attempted robbery occurred, but felt like it was a safe area, especially on a busy Friday night.”

    Wonder if he’ll be more aware next time? There is no place on earth where the risk of attack is zero. Glad he ran, and glad he didn’t get shot. Just hope he figures out that he is responsible for his own safety, not the police.

    1. avatar Gunr says:

      He actually thought he was safe walking down a dark side street at midnight!

  9. avatar jwm says:

    A police presence does deter bad guys. But so do armed citizens. And there are many more citizens on the street than cops. Let folks arm up and protect them legally from bs charges like firing a gun in a park cause a bear is attacking you and make them immune from civil actions in legitimate self defense and see how that deters crime.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      A police presence deters crime except when the cops cower in fear and hide while a citizen is being stabbed.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maksim_Gelman_stabbing_spree

      See the last paragraph.

  10. avatar former water walker says:

    Been in this neighborhood many times. Lots of clueless people. Headphones in the dark?!? DUH…they think they are “safe” because they have streetlights. This fool was damn lucky he wasn’t shot. I guess his crossfit is good for something 🙂

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      In a prior life I spent a lot of time just a few blocks from there. I couldn’t agree more-lots of clueless people who think bad things don’t happen in that neighborhood. Easy access from the Fullerton or Diversey EL stop to that area and all the young’uns around the DePaul campus.

      I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often.

  11. avatar Hannibal says:

    She stumbles over a thread of truth- that the police cannot protect everyone all the time- but ignores the conclusion that should follow: that people must be allowed to protect themselves.

    1. avatar John Galt says:

      If they can’t protect everyone all the time, then naturally they should just put the city on lockdown…you know, like Boston…since that was so effective.

      1. avatar MamaLiberty says:

        So typical. The “lockdown” was AFTER the CIA planted the bomb. They are truly the gang that can’t shoot straight.

        1. avatar Jus Bill says:

          Another Jimmie Breslin fan. Bravo!

  12. avatar Richard In WA says:

    I recommend keeping at least 16 minutes worth of blood on your person at all times.

  13. avatar Ralph says:

    Alderman Michele Smith is yet another Democrat twit (pardon the misspelling).

    1. avatar Accur81 says:

      I didn’t see any spelling errors…oh, wait, I get it now.

  14. avatar Delmarva Chip says:

    Comment at the end of the article:

    “We need to have more police walking around here so we have a better environment for everyone,” neighborhood resident Hollis Griffin said. “We would like to see a better presence in the neighborhood, not just when people call.”

    Well … your self-defense is your own responsibility. Get a gun and a permit and carry it. Cops are backup – not self-defense.

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