Moms Demanding Action for Gun Sense Turfed From Target

“Moms Demand Action’s peaceful protest at a local Target store was over before it even started,” foxsanantonio.com reports. “These moms were hoping to ask Target customers to sign a petition demanding change, but the store manager asked the group to leave.” And there you have it. Save an observation: former Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s money is finally trickling down to the grassroots. Specifically, coordinated T-shirts. That is all.

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  1. avatar John in Ohio says:

    STFU and GTFO. Sounds about right. 😀

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      It would have been even worse for MDA if they tried to return something.

  2. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

    Oh phoey. Shannon has to pick a new company

  3. avatar pwrserge says:

    Wow… Such “fair and balanced” coverage. Completely ignoring that the group was…

    1. Violating Target policy on soliciting.
    2. Blocking handicapped access to the store.
    3. Guilty of disorderly conduct given 1&2.

  4. avatar brentondadams says:

    Will this cringe worthy drama finally end on a ‘victory’? If people stopped taking long guns into uncommitted private places of business, can we put on cap on this nonsense?

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Sure. All people need to do is stop open carrying, MDA will go away and we’ll never hear from them and Bloomberg again.

      Brilliant!

      1. avatar PeterK says:

        I think my sarcasometer just blew up. 🙂

        1. avatar Ralph says:

          You must have bought it at Target.

    2. avatar Marcus Aurelius says:

      Sure, if Texas legalizes handgun open carry.

      1. avatar brentondadams says:

        I think they will. And soon. I support OC, I do it myself. It has been very hard for me to rhetorically defend a group of people carrying long guns in a chain store.

        Its a propaganda victory for the other side. Leaving it now after bloomberg gets the boot makes his group look crazy. Or at least as crazy as a people in Target with rifles. We can call it a draw.

  5. avatar Sixpack70 says:

    Get off my lawn!

  6. avatar borg says:

    This is interesting.

  7. avatar SpecialK says:

    I can’t help but wonder if the same reporter would have portrayed similarly situated NRA members as having been asked to leave while trespassing and harassing customers. So one-sided. So much fail… oh, and my desire to shop at Target just went through the roof. If only they sold ammo.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Target is not pro-gun, but after compromising millions of customers’ accounts, I don’t think it’s looking for a fight.

      1. avatar rlc2 says:

        Bullseye! Remind me not to piss you off Ralph.

      2. avatar SpecialK says:

        It appears not to be anti-gun, and anybody who runs off Bloomberg’s minions deserves some patronage. As to the cyber hack, the CEO responsible is out of work, as he deserved, too bad the board didn’t get shown the door as well.

  8. avatar Excedrine says:

    If only every business they targeted would have done this. It would have shown them the true level of support they had amongst the public: which is whatever comes right before zero.

  9. avatar Danny Griffin says:

    Don’t get too happy. Target doesn’t even allow the Girl Scouts to sell cookies outside the store. They are pretty strict about soliciting.

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      It is still pretty exciting, though…at least in that Target did not make an exception for the Moms DEMANDING Action.

    2. avatar neiowa says:

      Can’t really complain about consistent and uniform policy. I do find it annoying to be hitup by an astroturff fundraising scam (as “GirlScout cookies”) when attempted to get in and out of a store in the shortest time possible (per guy buying SOP).

      Anyone got a corp email address for Target for a “thanks for having a brain” msg? I’m not able to get thru their web site to a contact email. Apparently they have some extra “security” layers (I think the cow is already out of the bran Target).

    3. avatar Another Robert says:

      Yeah, they ran off the Salvation Army bellringers at Christmas too–much to the pleasure of K- and Wal- marts here in Deep East Texas.

  10. avatar Rich Grise says:

    Howcome nobody reminded her that the theater where her daughter was shot was a designated “gun-free” zone?

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      What a coincidence she shows up in San Antonio at the moment of the Mum protest. Perhaps Mikey is buying T shirts AND airline tickets?

      1. avatar Static NAT says:

        Wow! That’s a good point that I almost missed! That isn’t her bedrock community, is it?!!

  11. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    Hear that loud noise?
    I think it was a backfire, not gun fire…

  12. avatar Garrison Hall says:

    So the Mom’s are finally capitalizing on the antics of the open carry ninjas. The Mom’s go for good visuals: nice appearing, well spoken, ladies who know how to stay on topic, hand painted signs held by cute little kids . . . Open Carry? Grinning Chipotle ninjas and boneheads standing around with their hands on their weapons. Open Carry folks are now the perfect propaganda foils for the Mom’s. I’m just surprised it took this long. Texas politicians are paying attention to this.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      … and yet Texas will be getting open carry within a year. It’s on the legislative agenda and even the DNC candidate for governor openly supports it.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        Bully for Texas. In Virginia we don’t need a law. The right to open carry is in the state Constitution.

        1. avatar Gene says:

          Citation, please? I thougt we could because there was nothing prohibiting open carry.

        2. avatar tdiinva says:

          It wasn’t a law, it was a SCOVA decision. Article 1 section 13 states the right “keep and bear arms” The Court ruled that “to bear” meant “to display” or in other words, open carry.

        3. avatar Gene says:

          @ I1uluz – That’s the carveouts negotiated for the shall issue being passed, iirc.

          @tdiinva – gotcha, that makes sense.

      2. avatar Jus Bill says:

        The DNC candidate for governor would openly support eating dead babies raw if it would garner a few more votes. Part of that “Hopey /Changey” thingie I think.

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      There’s about as much unnecessary emotional bravo sierra in your comment as there is from that Mom in the video. Are some incapable of stating something without a truckload of emotionally charged language? You can make a valid point without all of the name calling and divisive language.

    3. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      And yet, the Moms are losing popularity and credibility and Texas has handgun OC in the works.

      It’s almost as if Geezer Science on this issue is wrong.

    4. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      If by “capitalizing” you mean being kicked out of their protesting location… Then yes, they’re “capitalizing” quite well.

  13. avatar jon says:

    MDA say they won’t shop at Target, Target says “We don’t want you here anyway!”

    – I guess now they really are #OffTarget 😉 LOL

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      Maybe they can shop at Wal Mart, instead, where you can buy all the same things plus guns. Oh, wait.

  14. avatar Colt Magnum says:

    The Moms are complaining that Open Carry Texas weren’t asked to leave, when they were there, a few days earlier. The difference that the Moms refuse to acknowledge is that the open carriers were on the sidewalk (public property) and the Moms were at the front door ( private property).

    1. avatar mark says:

      I wish the media would have made that clear. I didn’t know that myself till now.

      Unfortunately MDA probably loves the outcome because as far as most people know of the situation, Target kick them out but let the gun people stay. Very important distinction about the location of each rally.

  15. First Staples, now Target. Try it at Hobby Lobby, ladies.

  16. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    A whopping 6 women 1 man and a few kids.
    What a protest group…….seems about normal amount for MOMs.

    1. avatar Mark Lloyd says:

      if they get the camera angles right, they can make it look like there was………oh hell, 25 people there!

  17. avatar rlc2 says:

    These people remind me of the Hare Krishnas at the airport.
    Except the Krishnas had yellow outfits, and better hair.

    Look where it got them, too: kicked out of the airport, thank god. I mean Krishna.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0325/Court-upholds-ban-on-Hare-Krishna-soliciting-in-LAX-airport

    Keep it up, Bloomy. Its working for us, your money and your PR mommy.

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      “Keep it up, Bloomy. Its working for us, your money and your PR mommy.”

      But wait. I thought all the OC folks were “hurting our cause.” To hear the whiners prattle on about OC, one would get the distinct impression that the Moms and their financier have free rein in the marketplace of ideas.

      So, what’s the score?

      Staples and Target dismiss the moms. A few fast food places “request” no guns, but no 30.06 signs in their places in Texas; official policy remains “obey local and state laws,” which means technically, OC of rifles still allowed.

      Aside from that one dude in the mall a few months back, no OC-ers even arrested for ‘disturbing the peace’ or whatever similar charges could be tried.

      I read a lot of bleating from the anti-OC bunch on TTAG with still no evidence supporting it.

      1. avatar SteveInCO says:

        Would the fact that Target has now asked us to leave our guns at home count?

        1. avatar Jus Bill says:

          I think their request (I confess I haven’t read it) said something like:

          We are a business. We are here to sell things. It would keep things quieter in our stores if you did not bring and openly display long guns.

          We still don’t know know who the criminal was who left the gun in the Toy Department. We sell things there. Our store is not a stage for the world to act upon. Please do that at elsewhere. Thank you.

        2. avatar Rich Grise says:

          Nobody was carrying! It was just a handful of Bloomie’s hired professional victims making demands.

          To go to Target, just pull your shirt-tail out.

  18. avatar fuque says:

    it was a total success, no dogs got shot and nobody got pepper sprayed.

  19. avatar Noishkel says:

    Yeah I’m getting real tired of this assertion that Mom’s demand action is a ‘grassroots organization’. They’re about as grassroots as I am one of the moons of Saturn.

    1. avatar Mark Lloyd says:

      Are you from a Saturn moon? I’m from the Jupiter moon Callisto, so I could believe it.

      1. avatar Rich Grise says:

        I’m from Uranus!
        Still waiting for the right hot babe to ask me what my favorite planet is. 😉

        1. avatar Jus Bill says:

          Beat me to it!

  20. avatar Phil says:

    Good for Target. I guess now I need to support their top-tier pricing.

  21. avatar mirgc says:

    If there was ever a question you wanted to ask MDA members, but couldn’t since you were hit by the Ban-Hammer, there are quite a few over on the Target facebook page. Stay classy and have fun!

    https://www.facebook.com/target

  22. avatar Grumpy F'er says:

    Nice FaceBook post:

    “Dads also need to live, and dads want their kids to live. I will not shop at Target again until action is taken to protect your customers from gun violence. I would like for my dad, my sons, and my sons’ dad to be free to shop at your stores without fear of being shot.”

    WITHOUT FEAR. FEAR! Do you hear me??? I have the right not to be afraid. It’s in the Constitution…I don’t know…somewhere near the bottom.

    1. avatar Rich Grise says:

      Somebody should ask them, “What are you doing that makes everybody want to shoot you?”

      1. avatar Jus Bill says:

        Answer: Being an insufferable prig.

  23. avatar Scrubula says:

    It sucks that you can’t downvote facebook comments. The MDA nonsense responses on the target facebook page have more pro-gun replies (and likes) than MDA BS.
    Oh well, target can’t afford to give into their minority opinion.

    1. avatar mirgc says:

      I’ve been following this since last week. Most MDA posts are “drive by” posts. The peak was last Thursday when they had their “post on twitter and facebook” page (something that would be fun for our side to do from time-to-time). I think Target seems to have battened down the hatches and are content to ride out the storm. It’s not like MDA is the first group to try and force them to do something via boycotts.

      I predict that after this weekend, it will be behind them.

  24. avatar rlc2 says:

    More proof that Moms Demand Action is irrelevant, by Alexa rankings, which matches who shows up in person- little to nada.

    Looks like Bloomy has been off buying Fakebook “likes” for Everytown, which is about all that his money IS buying, thats working. Ms Watts, call your office…

    Kudos to TTAG, again- the secret mojo is working.

    Not only do gun-sites beat all gun-grabber sites, by Alexa rankings,
    but TTAG tops the list (after excluding gun-selling sites).

    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/gun-websites-of-all-kinds-get-far-far-more-traffic-than-gun-control-websites/

    1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

      “Kudos to TTAG, again- the secret mojo is working.”

      The secret mojo is the simple truth. They don’t have it, and even people not all that invested in the issue can see that fact.

      The simple truth they lack pertains to their claim that more gun control would prevent future Newtown tragedies. They (grabbers in general if not MDA in particular) have openly admitted that their proposals would not have stopped that killer.

      All over the country, schools are at least looking at increasing armed presence in schools. They have a practical problem to solve, and ideology fails when tested against practicality every single time. I’d be willing to bet that a lot of the admins considering arming teachers gagged a little to do so, but they have to realize that “No Guns” signs and wishful thinking does not protect children.

      At the end of the day, MDA is a failure for several reasons, but not the of it is that their message sucks. And people can sense that.

  25. avatar Patrick says:

    Why is it that any time, no matter the location, an anti gunner is interviewed, they have a child who died at the Aurora theater shooting? I swear, it seems like every damn time. How many people died in that theater, and where did they all grow up? Because it seems like there was atleast 3 from just about every single state…

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      First possibility: people who care about a cause or event artificially make themselves seem closer to that event. You have the same thing with things like 9/11. You hear someone talk about how their best friend died and then you find out it was someone who went to the same high school with them they met twice. Strange human reaction but it seems to happen.

      More likely possibility: people actually connected to the events are going on tours, for lack of a better word, funded by Bloomburg’s pocket change.

    2. avatar Juliesa says:

      The San Antonio couple mentioned in the article actually did lose a daughter in the Aurora shooting. They and about 5 other adults are the entire membership of MDA in San Antonio.

  26. avatar tmm says:

    A little loose with the facts on the story. They listed Sandy Phillips as a “mass shooting victim,” but unless she was with her daughter and was injured, or was involved with some other incident, her daughter was the victim and she was the relative. Specifically, an Oxford desktop dictionary lists a victim as “a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.” Certainly she has been affected by the Colorado event mentioned in the report, but I think it’s a stretch for the television report to list her as a victim.

    1. avatar OakRiver says:

      Expand the definition enough and it could be argued that she suffered harm as a result of the loss of her child. The layperson though associates “victim” with someone who was there at the time of the event. This is nothing more than trying to achieve coveted victim status to further bolster their appeal to emotion rather than fact or logic

    2. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      She is an “emotional victim”, which is to say she morns a loved one…

      Everyone is a victim to those who are in the business of creating victims.

    3. avatar Static NAT says:

      I agree with you … but let them have that one. Someone might say that any violence makes as all “victims”. By that same token, we’re “victims” of liberal media BS on every event they choose to spin.

  27. avatar Steve Day says:

    And that ladies and gentlemen, is how you deal with the MDA/MAIG/Everytown #GunBullies !

  28. avatar OakRiver says:

    I love the MDA sympathizers on the Target FB page. Their spam on everything just harms their credibility and is likely to alienate people.

  29. avatar Pantera Vazquez says:

    MDA is just going for the empathy just like that caused by the drug whose name they took:MDA began to appear on the recreational drug scene around 1963 to 1964. It was then inexpensive and readily available as a research chemical from several scientific supply houses. Although now illegal, MDA continues to be bought, sold, and used as a recreational ‘love drug’, due to its enhancement of empathy./sarc…….or maybe not………

  30. avatar borg says:

    Target’s policy is so strict that they stopped allowing Salvation Army bell ringers from collecting donations on their property.

  31. avatar Dermott says:

    We shop at Target, plus scripts. I sent them an email and called them to tell them I would cancel my account if they put up a no guns sign. I included my account number.

    The Target guy on the phone transferred me to someone who had no clue (or acted that way).

    We spend a lot of $ at Target. If enough people did this they’d pay attention. Money talks, bs walks.

  32. avatar Jeremy in AL says:

    Please, Texans, don’t OC long guns into businesses. You are screwing folks in other states who already have OC, and yourselves in the long run. Just be patient, and OC black powder for the time being if you want to make the statement. I know that’s slightly off topic, but whatever.

  33. avatar BlinkyPete says:

    Nothing I love more than seeing Michael waste every red cent of that $50 million.

  34. avatar neiowa says:

    I see perhaps as many as 12 mums. How is it this “grassroots” mother club need as GUY to tell them what to do (0:20 in the clip).

  35. avatar Tex300BLK says:

    Good!

    Now… to all the Open Carry People, be happy that they overcooked this one and then leave it at that. MDA scored an own goal to counter the one we scored on ourselves. Lets not go giving them the ball back. Keep it on our end, burn the clock and wait to see if Greg or Wendy follow through on their open carry promises.

  36. avatar shirtgetter says:

    former Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s money is finally trickling down to the grassroots. Specifically, coordinated T-shirts.

    You people have it all wrong. I just signed up for Moms Demand Action (and their dads group too) and Everytown for Gun Safety. I’m gonna get me some of those nice t-shirts to wear to the range, and maybe get some pictures shooting the suppressed M16 🙂

    1. avatar shirtgetter says:

      Oh, and I also confirmed that all you have to do to become a “member” of their BS organization is to sign up for emails. To become a member of the NRA, I had to pay $25. I wonder how many of their “members” would be willing to fork over $25 to deny people their civil rights..

    2. avatar Rich Grise says:

      Wear an MDA T-shirt to the range and watch people’s heads explode? 😉

  37. avatar richard says:

    So why are the anti freaks all over targets webpage thanking them for being against open carry and CC?

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      Because there is absolutely NO commitment in time or money. 100% drive-by. I wonder how many commenters are over 18?

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