It Should Have Been A Defensive Gun Use: Archie Andrews Edition

Archie about to get it (courtesy mashable.com)

“The famous freckle-faced comic book icon is meeting his demise in Wednesday’s installment of ‘Life with Archie’ when he intervenes in an assassination attempt on Kevin Keller, Archie Comics’ first openly gay character,” mashable.com reports. A story TTAG reported back in April. Regardless, this should have been a defensive gun use (DGU). What better way to introduce impressionable comic book fans (if such a thing exists) to the importance of Americans’ natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms than to have Archie taking out an assassin with a legally-owned firearm? Maybe have the gay candidate defend himself? But then if Archie had lived, we’d have had to live with him. I’m not so sure if that would have been a desirable outcome. Just sayin’ . . .

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  1. avatar Pantera Vazquez says:

    Pro-gay and anti-gun. Why are any of us surprised? Not like the publishers have an agenda…………./Sarc.

  2. avatar jjtalaska says:

    Well it was just a matter of time. If the bullet hadn’t gotten him, then the gay lifestyle would have. The comic book authors saved him a lot of pain.

    1. avatar DM says:

      Please, perpetuate the stereotype of a ofwg gun owner. It really helps our cause…

      1. avatar neiowa says:

        Blah blah BLAH blaH bLAh

        So tell us about the pathetic aging city boomer queer (who votes for every libtard progressive the dems put on the ballot).

      2. avatar jjtalaska says:

        No my friend. I was supportive of the gay lifestyle until my brother and his partner both became HIV positive. They don’t know where or whom or when the got it, or worse who they gave it to. Years of partying and easy sex has caught up with them. They are good people, not violent who otherwise have never hurt anyone. They work and pay taxes. I have since learned to differentiate between homosexuals who are just people like the rest of us, and the pop culture gay lifestyle which kills many, ruins lives, and waste resources. I havel
        Learned this from my gay friends who don’t live the lifestyle. They are dedicated, mature monogamous adults who don’t live Archie’s gay swinger lifestyle. To bring it back full circle, In the new comics Archie lives the gay lifestyle. The propaganda is everywhere and it is very influential.

        1. avatar Jumbie says:

          In the new comic Archie lives the gay lifestyle? Will you PLEASE check yourself into treatment for delusion…

          I don’t know if you were trolling and that was an attempt at humor, but in the new comic, there are actually two versions of Archie who end up getting killed the same way, one married to Betty and one married to Veronica. He’s not sexual with any dudes.

        2. avatar Sprocket says:

          Riiiight… ’cause straight people don’t party and have casual sex…

        3. avatar GenghisQuan says:

          *party* lifestyle.

          fixed that for you.

      3. avatar DM says:

        Why does this have anything to do with a gun blog? These types of comments turn fence sitters into anti’s. Keep it on topic, take the social commentary elsewhere.

        1. avatar DM says:

          Ipad reply fail apparently.

        2. avatar Jus Bill says:

          iAnything fails.

        3. avatar Geoff PR says:

          The Archie character was killed by a gun.

          From the “Who We Are” section – “Robert Farago founded The Truth About Guns in February of 2010 to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.”

          IOW, pretty much all things guns.

  3. avatar Templar says:

    Isn’t the CEO of Archie’s comic company being charged with sexual harassment for calling her male employees by the name “penis”?

    1. avatar Bonkers says:

      Yes. The owner of Archie Comics is completely insane. She’s being sued for sexual harassment by her male employees and she’s misandric as all hell.

    2. avatar Geoff PR says:

      http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/archie-boss-calls-male-employees-penis-article-1.1534462#ixzz37b7XuFaF

      Then in October came the $32.5 million suit by the Archie employees. They’re seeking a court order keeping her two miles away from the office, and say her “deliberate and disturbed campaign of outrageous conduct” has them so freaked out an armed guard’s been posted in the office.

      “Silberkleit, they say, invited Hell’s Angels to Archie’s Mamaroneck offices in an apparent effort to “intimidate” them, and has repeatedly inquired about the whereabouts of the handgun and 750 rounds of ammo her husband kept at the office. She’s also stalked the employees and their families, the suit says.”

      Silberkleit called the accusations “untrue and twisted.”

      “Silberkleit, 59, took over as co-CEO of the iconic comic book company – home of Archie, Jughead, and Sabrina the Teenage Witch – after her husband’s death in 2008.”

      And I thought I had a female boss once who was a whacko…

  4. avatar Ralph says:

    Back in the day, you were a Betty guy or a Veronica guy. Now you’re either a Betty guy or a Veronica guy or an Archie guy or a Betty girl or a Veronica girl. It’a all so confusing!

    But some things never change: there are no Jughead girls. Or guys. And I’m good with that.

    1. avatar anonymous says:

      Back in the day, you were a Betty guy or a Veronica guy.

      False dilemma; I would have chosen both!

    2. avatar Rick the Bear says:

      I preferred Betty’s style and Veronica’s hair. (Thank goodness there was Maryann on the Isle!)

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        Second that on Veronica’s hair!

    3. avatar Full Cleveland says:

      I wanted Betty and Veronica to be the gay element.

  5. avatar Ing says:

    It was waaaay past time for Archie to pass from this life. Talk about outliving your time…the Cumaean Sybil had nothing on this loser.

    1. avatar Yellow Devil says:

      Holy crap, I’ll read that.

  6. avatar Indiana Tom says:

    People still read Archie comics?

  7. avatar Cameron B says:

    why is some chick trying to kill that guy? and who’s the other women with the revolver in the background?

  8. avatar Excedrine says:

    This is exactly what the Civilian Disarmament Industrial Complex wants, though: more victims. Martyrs, to be more accurate. They’ll happily sacrifice their own, and openly celebrate (and demand) the blood of the innocent who happen not to be — and even castigate these people as villains. It’s just another part of their plot to paint guns and everyone who owns them (even on their side) as evil incarnate for which there is no low that’s too low to reach in order to fulfill their blood-lust, all the while they are the ones who are actively engaged in not only blood-dancing on the corpses and graves of dead children but actively killing innocent people (James Eagan Holmes, Jared Lee Loughner, Karl Peirson, et. al.) and blaming innocent people for it (which would be us).

  9. avatar Scrubula says:

    Because we still live in the past.
    I guess archie is ancient enough to show bigotry in the comics. Yes, I know people still get harassed for their private beliefs, but I would like to think the lady with a revolver in the background of the picture was actually trying to help.

  10. avatar Parnell says:

    I always thought Archie was stupid but charging a gun head on proves it.

  11. avatar Bonkers says:

    The anti-gun comics fans are usually DC fans, even though DC is largely confused on it’s stance on guns (It’s okay when Pa Kent or Gordon use a gun but all the heroes outside of Jonah Hex view guns as something only evil people use). The pro-gun comics fans are usually marvel or indie. (Marvel largely for The Punisher though lots of marvel heroes/anti-heroes use guns, indie for all the war comics and other stuff)

    1. avatar The Brotherhood of Steel says:

      The marvel comics are actually pretty great when it comes to a pro 2a and resisting government encroach over all our rights. Im not a huge comic book fan but after seeing some of their movies, I read up on them, and the Captain America story goes full balls into a second civil war in America, where Captain America leads a rebel army against the government heavily supported by Iron Man, who is at the head of the Government effort. The war occurs over the governments attempt to confiscate anyone with superpowers. Now whats the symbology in that, gee I wonder?, I believe the title of that series was actually “civil war.”

    2. avatar Lurker_Of_Lurkiness says:

      I’m a fan of old style gun toting batman.
      http://sacomics.blogspot.com/2005/08/batman-and-guns.html

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        I always liked them two, Rat man & Bobbin! Always got them mixed up.

  12. avatar Roger says:

    Just posting to say, there are pro-gun and pro-gay people. They’re called actual Libertarians. Not the corporatist RINOs that currently occupy the “Republican” party. Gun rights is civil rights the same way not getting murdered for liking someone with the same set of genitals.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Are you saying that Archie had genitals? I’ve never seen them. Have you?

    2. avatar tdiinva says:

      Now that is stupid statement if I have read one. Someone can be pro gun and pro gay and be a Progressive, RINO, DINO and any other possible political combination. The problem with you faux Libertarians is that you equate a political right like the right to bear arms with a social right like sex. The former is based on the Constitution while the later is social convention.

      1. avatar The Brotherhood of Steel says:

        “If you like your butt sex, you can keep your butt sex… Period.”

      2. avatar LC says:

        freedom of expression?

        ever hear of that?

        (let me give you a clue. its the enumerated right before the right to bear arms).

        Your rant against libertarians is noted. You authoritarian republicans are no different than your democrat rivals. Proof that the horseshoe theory reigns supreme in fanatical politics. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

        1. avatar Roger says:

          Read that post again you fucking idiots. That was not a rant against Libertarianism.

          Oh and you guys talking about how social convention is not part of the rights enumerated in the Constitution. There’s something called “natural rights”. Among those natural rights is the right to live your life how you want to live it *and* defend said life.

          But no no. Continue with the anti-gay shit and keep calling yourselves “Libertarians”. Robert Farago’s opinion on these matters is fairly well documented. “I want gay married couples to be able to defend their marijuana plants with machine guns.”

        2. avatar tdiinva says:

          I am getting tire dof your badass NCO routine so I am going give you my lost his patience 0-6 routine. (To be upfront I was not an 0-6 I just got quartered like one except on a few occasions when I got upgrade flag quarters) Despite what the current social convention is Freedom of Expression originally meant freedom of opinion, i.e., the written word and speech. It didn’t necessarily apply to behaviors that are independent of speech. It is perfectly consistent with constitutional values to be unwilling to socially sanction behavior. Constructional values only require you to tolerate it. This is difference is what puts the faux in the faux Libertarian. The faux Libertarian agrees with the Progressive that anything short of full affirmation is unacceptable. Faux Libertarianism is merely Fascism of the mob.

          Now, as pointed out by Roger below my object to the statement was his equation of pro-gun and pro-gay with Libertarianism. That is demonstrably false statement. That combination of views can be held by a person of any political stripe.

          .

    3. avatar neiowa says:

      Wait one………… Sorry “Civil Right” is not in the text of the Constitution. Once each have civil Office and civil Officer. “Right” appears once dealing with patents and copyrights.

      Now what was your (dumbass) “point”

      Perhaps you might read this amazing document. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

  13. avatar Sean N. says:

    So.. we dont attack the liberal gun grabbers… but gaybashing is acceptable? You folks should be ashamed of yourselves.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Can you point out the gay bashing? I must have missed it.

      1. avatar Sean N says:

        Read again, the thread isn’t that long.

        1. avatar The Brotherhood of Steel says:

          Um, yeah dude there’s like one comment that you could take anti gay if your a sensitive little girl, which was more written to be funny rather than serious. Maybe you need thicker skin. Other than that I see a whole lot of Archie bashing, and that’s it. Nothing wrong with that.

        2. avatar C says:

          Look for yourself? Oh, so it didn’t actually happen. Cool.

        3. avatar Yellow Devil says:

          I counted possible one comment that could be considered “anti-gay” but even that was a stretch. Most criticism was regarding the comic’s approach to the issues.

    2. avatar Excedrine says:

      Yes, please, do tell us exactly where we’ve bashed gays anywhere. Don’t rush. I’ll wait (forever since it didn’t happen).

      1. avatar DM says:

        Second comment from the top was either a failed attempt to be funny or an excellent attempt at being a douche. Either way it has no place on a site for discussing guns.

        1. avatar Full Cleveland says:

          We are all so sorry. To make up for our insensitivity I propose to TTAG that the Archie Award be created and awarded to each person who makes the blog by being unarmed when attacked, robbed or brutalized.
          The two women who had their car jacked while they were checking the tire pressure is a good example.
          Happy now?

  14. avatar Bigred2989 says:

    I’m pretty sure Archie is, even after all these years, still underage so he can’t carry a gun. That would have been an interesting story though, seeing Archie on trial for carrying a gun despite saving someone’s life with it.

    1. avatar Jack Brown says:

      No, this is (groan) an alternate future. He’s old enough for one of his classmates to be elected Senator(on an antigun platform)

  15. avatar Werechicken says:

    They really missed a potential artistic moment with the cover. They could have put Archie in the Christ pose with Betty cradling him in her lap (like the Pieta) and Veronica sobbing at his feet like Mary Magdalene.

  16. avatar KingSarc48265 says:

    The RKBA is hardly a ‘political’ right. Natural right is more like it.

    1. avatar Matt Richardson says:

      Don’t even engage with idiots like that. “Political” and “Social” are silly qualifiers used by dishonest people in order to cheapen a position they dislike. Much the way the anti-2A movement marginalizes gun owners by calling us “ammosexuals” and “gun nuts.” These people are all about freedom, so long it’s their favorite flavor.

  17. avatar KingSarc48265 says:

    Dangit, reply on mobile still sucks, my previous comment was toward tdiinva.

  18. avatar S_J says:

    And nothing of value was lost.

  19. avatar C says:

    The assassin is apparently motivated by senator whothefckever’s civilian disarmament push. The holy trinity of progressive wet dreams. Teabagger tries to kill gay messiah because guns.

  20. avatar Matt says:

    The intended victim Keller is a politician so I would think the woman with the revolver is his security detail. Yes, we know security carries semi autos which reflects the author’s and artist’s lack of factual details.

  21. avatar Former Water Walker says:

    Archie? Really? Rest in Pieces…

  22. avatar Jack Brown says:

    Wait, the assassination attempt isn’t because the Senator is gay but because he’s a gun grabber. He was elected on a gun control platform after his “husband” was injured in a shooting. And they’re both veterans. Yes it rings all the bells.

    So I’m sure the shooter will be waving a Gadsden flag.

  23. avatar Gunr says:

    Talk about gay bashing and anti everything else, how about the OTHER Archie, The “Bunker” man himself!

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      Interesting point – As I recall Carroll O’Conner was a huge libtard. Who, typically made his fortune in a series of movies and TV (cop) show with guns. Obvoiusly Norman Leer of All in the Family was godfather of all things libtard progressive.

      http://www.tvrage.com/news/4011/all-in-the-family-episode-reflects-today-s-pro-gun-argument-40-years-ago

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        Interesting flicks, reminds me of old times. Thanks for posting that.

  24. avatar Chase says:

    DC and Marvel should just merge under the name “Cultural Marxist Comics.”

    Its like seriously…. Gay Green Lantern. Gay Archies friend. Mexican undocumented worker Spiderman. Thor is now a woman. What else am I missing?

    Where’s all the posts about anti-white hate crimes RF? White women are more important to the future.

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      I have a headache now. Thank you.

  25. avatar fuque says:

    Archie is a lot like unions… his and theirs, time has past,

  26. avatar Bondie says:

    http://www.pinkpistols.org/

    I agree! I think Kevin, the “openly gay senator” should have been packing the other kind of heat! Gays can protect themselves, right!?

  27. avatar Pashtun6 says:

    I you guys are interested in comics, or graphic novels, go check out The Activity and Black Powder Red Earth. I haven’t read them myself yet but I’ve heard good things

  28. avatar Victor says:

    Anyone else notice the business woman in the background holding the revolver? If Archie had used his head to GTFO instead of as a shield he’d still be alive and the responsible carrier behind him would be able to take the dude out. Rule 1: if the guy has a gun don’t be a hero.
    Of course, the lady could just be a murderer too, because as far as liberals are concerned everyone with a gun is one.

  29. avatar Steve Shook says:

    So when exactly did Archie start doing gritty storylines… It was for the under 12 crowd when I was a kid.

  30. avatar Fug says:

    I remember seeing the cover with Archie bleeding out that has been going around and hearing Archie was going to be killed off some time ago, like maybe two years. It is like they were waiting for the right moment to publish it. This is nothing less than a propaganda campaign, pro-gay and anti-gun.

    The powers that be are using these issues as a wedge to turn the screws on Americans. The reality is that gay people make up a tiny slice of the population and unfortunately their community has become a hotbed of disease. The WHO is recommending all gay men start taking antiretroviral drugs whether they have HIV or not due to the increasing risk of infection through casual sex. Meanwhile our own government seems intent on mainstreaming this lifestyle… I don’t care what people do behind closed doors, but it is clear that the gay issue is being misrepresented and exploited by certain parties. There would be no debate over gay marriage if the state didn’t require people to submit the marriage to their approval for tax reasons.

    The anti-gun issue goes hand in hand with the dishonest narrative being put forward regarding homosexuality. The people behind this are statists, they want control and control is achieved most easily by scaring people into submitting to authority. Some of the recent highly publicized incidents of gun violence stink to high heaven, it is hard to swallow that they happened the way we are being told if at all. A culture war is being waged and the objective seems to be gutting America as we know it from the inside out.

  31. avatar GuyFromV says:

    Whatever skullduggery is up at Riverdale High, Reggie Mantle is surely involved.

  32. avatar Hannibal says:

    Meh, at that range, if your job is to safeguard someone, the best move is to go hands-on anyway. There’s a reason the Secret Service didn’t open up on Hinkley…

  33. avatar GSP says:

    If you really want to stick it to Archie comics, embrace Rule 34 of the Internet! LOL

  34. avatar Raul Ybarra says:

    Remember this is an alternate timeline on one of the lowest sales comics on the market. And I’m not talking about the Archie digest at the supermarket checkout; I’m talking the actual comic.

    It’s about as much of a publicity stunt as it gets. On the bright side, the only people reading this are going to be people who already share the same opinion.

    I put my full thoughts on this at The Conservative Lefty yesterday: http://wp.me/p1VLms-1t

  35. avatar DBM says:

    The whole scenario is BS. The only groups that commits political assassinations in the US are Lefties and Democrats. Not US Vets.

    The more likely theme would have been the Vet shot Archie just as Archie was about to pull the trigger on his stolen pistol to kill his so called friend.

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