Quote of the Day: They Must Be Teaching Them Something Edition

“They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school, so why do they need guns?” – New Mexico Junior College student Annastasia Wood in College security guards armed with guns [at krqe.com]

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  1. avatar jwm says:

    Cause those signs are so good at protecting people, that’s why.

    1. avatar KOB says:

      They’re great to hide behind when there’s an active shooter.

      Probably should add lights and a siren to them, since it’s clear these law breakers aren’t noticing them.

      1. avatar Daniel S. says:

        They need to start making those signs at least Level IIIA.

  2. avatar Hal J. says:

    Ah, the “wisdom” of youth…

  3. avatar Shire-man says:

    “They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school, so why do they need guns?”

    We need to map the brains of these people. Find out which sections arent firing because something is seriously wrong when their reality tells them that a simple decree is absolute. Otherwise just have the Pope stand on his balcony and decree “there shall be no more war” and bingo bango we have world peace.

  4. avatar T says:

    Cause a flashlight or pepper spray ain’t gonna stop someone spraying bullets.

    1. avatar Richard says:

      And here’s ‘T’ using the media’s buzzwords ‘spraying bullets’. Just never been able to figure out how that’s done. Must be a hell of a big bug sprayer to get all those rounds to flow through the system.

      1. avatar William Burke says:

        I’ve never understood that either. Seeing as how only one bullet exits the barrel at a time, where does this notion of “spraying” come from? Is it dark and smelly in there?

        1. avatar T says:

          Alright I get it. Dumb word to use. But Richard made me laugh with his joke about the big bug sprayer.

  5. avatar Pascal says:

    “They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school, so why do they need guns?”

    THIS, this is what our education system turns out. Well, Virginia, maybe those signs don’t tell the whole truth and maybe the bad people do not follow the signs and Oh! one more thing, when the bad people start shooting at you, those magical signs cannot stop the bullets heading your way no matter what the teachers have brain washed you to believe.

    I wonder if she believes in unicorns too?

    1. avatar John says:

      Maybe they should start making them out of carbon nanotubes and letting students “shelter in place” behind them. Then they’d actually be able to help make people safer!

      1. avatar Scott says:

        If they were made of carbon nanotubes you would not be able to hide behind them. Think about it.

  6. avatar Nigil says:

    From the article: “’It’s not that big of a school and we really don’t have much violence go on here, so I don’t think that’s really necessary,’ said Roger Garcia”.
    Was Sandy Hook a large school? Was there “much violence” there? Do you think that having one or more armed guards would have been a good thing in that situation?

    1. avatar Braenen says:

      Actually, they would say that more guns would have made things worse.

      I like to think I am a smart person. I try hard, really hard, to understand the positions of those who I disagree with. In this case, I simply cannot see how an armed teacher could have made things worse. Even in the absolute worst case scenario where the teacher accidentally shot another student while trying to hit the assailant, that still wouldn’t be worse than having him continue his rampage unchallenged.

      Now my head hurts again…

      1. avatar Rich Grise says:

        That’s because there is no “thought process” involved in the antigun nut brainpan. All it can do is parrot the dogma, like a tape player on infinite loop.

      2. avatar Mark N. says:

        Because anyone who would teach must be batshit crazy? Those teachers, you know, after twenty years they are on a hair trigger….

  7. avatar great unknown says:

    What a great way to solve Chicago’s overwhelming fiscal crisis. Declare the city drug free and gun free and get rid of the Police Department. Besides the direct savings, the city would save billions in lawsuit payments.

    It would be more accurate to declare the quoted students as “intelligence free”.

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      Absolutely correct!

      I wonder if they can declare a major in Dumb?

      1. avatar Bob says:

        “Here’s your sign.” – Bill Engvall

        He wasn’t talking about Gun-Free Zone signs, but it would be just as appropriate if he was.

  8. avatar Ike says:

    Sig makes a .44?

    1. avatar Chas says:

      She actually meant to say it was an AR-15.

    2. avatar Chris says:

      If you watch carefully you’ll see it’s a Sig P220 (single stack mag). Obviously the reporter screwed up and meant .45. As for the students…. It would be funny if they weren’t woefully naïve. The media bias shows through at the end when they throw in a blurb about how NMCC security don’t carry. Quite frankly if I was a student there I’d be carrying anyway, just like I do now.

  9. avatar juliesa says:

    I think the reporter said the four guards now have .44 caliber guns. That seems unlikely.

    Besides that though, honestly, what’s with these irrational little ninnies freaking out about this?

  10. avatar John Fritz - Commenter says:

    So can any students carry a gun or is it just the retired LEO security guards?

    1. avatar Another Robert says:

      New Mexico is actually an “open carry” state, and will honor just about anybody else’s CC permits. But I’m gonna make –yes, I’ll say it–an educated guess that such does not apply to college campuses there. If Annastasia weren’t such a sterling example of modern public education, I would simply conclude that students are prohibited from carrying, since she says it’s a gun-free campus. But I ain’t taking her word for anything.

  11. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    Drug free school? Those don’t exist…

    People need to quit kidding themselves.

    When I was in HS I could get drugs easier than I could get alcohol and cigs. Drug dealers do not check for ID.

    People need to get off this whole sign protection thing, it’s a piece of metal with paint on it, not an impenetrable force field.

    1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

      Oh, and if the kids aren’t getting high, the teachers sure are…

      The only thing that seperates 22 yrs old college girl, Kate Johnson, from smoking pot and doing keg stands at the frat house and Miss. Johnson your kids first year kindergarten teacher is a few months and a piece of paper.

      1. avatar JoshtheViking says:

        Yet another reason to homeschool.

        1. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

          I send my kids to private school, I don’t know if it changes much in the way of drugs, but it does provide them a better education.

          Home school isn’t an option for my family.

          I have a great job and so does my wife. She didn’t bust her ass for ten yrs putting herself through college to be a Susie Homemarker. And, I would be the worst stay at home dad ever, I like being outside and playing too much. The kids and I would end up fishing and hunting all day. Little would get accomplished.

        2. avatar JR says:

          Thinking too much inside the box, there, friend.

          Being outside DOING stuff is a GREAT way to educate your children. How in the heck do you think “education” was done for thousands of years of civilization before someone thought of the “wisdom” of compulsory, institutionalized school?

          Don’t fall into the trap that homeschooling = sitting at a desk all day mimicking all the failures of the institution.

          No beef with your personal educational choices for your children, but you CAN homeschool if you want to….you or your wife. If you were to set that as a priority, you could do it.

        3. avatar Mister Fleas says:

          +87 gazillion, JR.

        4. avatar Another Robert says:

          Respectfully, ROHC, if “Susie homemaker” is educating the children , those years in college aren’t exactly going to waste. And JR is exactly right, one of the great advantages of home schooling is the ability to tailor your , ahh, “program” to your family’s particular situation.

      2. avatar JR says:

        If they are separated by even that much. Let’s not assume Kate grew up and changed her behavior during those few months.

      3. avatar Mister Fleas says:

        +1

  12. avatar StevieP65 says:

    Annastasia’s a special kind of stupid, ain’t she?

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      Was she high when they interviewed her?

  13. avatar S.CROCK says:

    “They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school…” So whatever they say must be true and you should never question them. Okay got it.

    1. avatar JR says:

      Read some of John Taylor Gatto’s writing; the public education system was designed to teach precisely that…follow authority without question (in many cases in the early years, “authority” was meant to be your supervisor at the factory you were destined to work in).

  14. avatar William White says:

    I am not aware of any company that manufactures a .44 caliber semi-auto hand gun. Reporters should get their facts straight and stop interviewing the campus idiots for their opinions.

    1. avatar Ike says:

      Magnum Research and IMI make the Desert Eagle. But I’d love to see security guards carry that.

      1. avatar JoshtheViking says:

        Beat me to it.

    2. avatar Taylor TX says:

      I thought for a second Coonan made a .44 but turns out its only a .357 in their 1911s

  15. avatar zealot says:

    Said the student holding a dime bag…

  16. avatar Garands r Grand says:

    I always ask this of people at both colleges I have attended. I always get back “for protection”. So now I follow up with if they need it for protection how come I can’t protect myself. I manage to carry off campus and never shoot anyone or myself what is the difference. I have yet to have a good response from professors or students.

  17. avatar Kagans says:

    Sig makes a .44 mag handgun?

    That aside, those two people do not understand that it really isn’t a gun free zone. Shoot, I had kids that brought knives and a machete into my elementary school in the 90’s. There is no such thing as a gun/weapon free zone. To think so is to be naive

  18. avatar ST says:

    Drug Free Schools? That’s hilarious. In college drugs are not only available, they’re *discounted*.

    Gun free? Another lol. About time someone saw the light and realized you can’t stop a bullet with a sign.

  19. avatar boardsnbikes says:

    I miss my days of absolute knowledge and naivete. Annastasia, hopefully, you will too.

  20. avatar WayneMHK says:

    “They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school, so why do they need guns?”

    And Sheldon says, “Wait, that was sarcasm, right?”

  21. avatar DisThunder says:

    “They” say a lot of things, don’t they?
    This comes as little surprise, but I blame the parents of the little princess Annastasia more than I blame her. These are the same kinda people who say “Sure pumpkin! go ahead and take senior trip to a foreign country! Why, it looks just like disneyland in this here brochure you brought me!” and then stand there in shock when their little girl doesn’t make it home. If you’re naive and out of your depth as a parent, then your kids will be too. And that makes excellent victims.

  22. avatar Bob says:

    A nation raised afraid of guns is a nation ready for their new shackles.

  23. avatar Jim R says:

    These are the kind of kids our education system turns out, and we wonder why America is the laughingstock of the industrialized world.

  24. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

    This would be a great question for Shannon Watts to ask her pim. . . I mean boss…

    “If guns are bad and signs work, why do your goons carry guns? Why not declare everything gun free and be done with it?”

    Unfortunately, it takes awhile for some to get out of “the life”.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      And is there a “This is a Gun Free Zone” sign on the lawn in front of Shannon Watt’s hou…I mean MDA’s corporate headquarters?

  25. avatar Rich Grise says:

    “They say it’s a drug free and a gun free school, so why do they need guns?”

    Because every single one of the mass shootings on campuses has been at a “gun-free school.”

  26. avatar Sixpack70 says:

    Another college student that lacks critical thinking skills. The school system is still failing at its job.

    1. avatar JR says:

      Sorry, but no it’s not. It’s failing at the job you THINK it has, but it is completing its mission as designed.

      The institution of public is not and never has been about “education.” It is designed to habituate “institutionalization” as a way of life….please read John Taylor Gatto for more detail that is far more eloquent than I can provide. He’s done a TON of research on the topic.

      The public education that most people think exists is, and always has been, a myth.

  27. avatar Morgan Y. says:

    “THEY SAY…”

    That’s why they need guns. Words are wind.

  28. avatar the ruester says:

    You know what else is supposed to be drug free and gun free? PRISON

    1. avatar JR says:

      Also another place where the term “Lockdown” is used.

  29. avatar former water walker says:

    Hey what about KNIFE free zones? BTW the post on the HS knife attack sure brought out a lot of trolls. Yeah she’s a dumb college twit. What else is new?

  30. avatar Werewolf1021 says:

    The .44 caliber is a misquote. In the article it states that the firearms are .45 ACP.

  31. avatar TexanHawk says:

    Girl child goes to UT Austin. There are 120 police call boxes distributed throughout campus.

    http://www.utexas.edu/police/services/callbox.html

    1. avatar Taylor TX says:

      Im pretty sure that the max size of a blade length to carry is 5.5 inches in TX, but she could definitely be carrying a burnt orange pig sticker walking past those call boxes 🙂

  32. avatar SilverState says:

    Does anybody really believe that the “drug free” policy actually makes the school drug free? If that policy doesn’t keep drugs out of the school, how stupid must a person be to believe that a “gun free” policy will prevent a shooting?

  33. avatar GSRpositive says:

    “I weep for the future.”

  34. avatar Michael says:

    the U of O here in Eugene has its own police force now

  35. avatar allen says:

    as a former teacher with experience of being in a school building. there is nothing that will stop a shooter or a knife holding nut job other than a guard with a gun. they are there for our protection from the outside, not there to intimidate students or teachers.

  36. avatar Aaron NM says:

    I must be the only one who read that and thought that Anastasia was making the point that the school administrators are lying hypocrites.

    Of course I didn’t watch the video

    1. avatar Maineuh says:

      Nope. That’s how I saw it at first, too. Thought she was employing our kind of snark.

  37. avatar lolinski says:

    I would have lost fewer brain cells if I had smashed my head against the table instead of reading that.

  38. avatar GunGuyInNC says:

    I have an idea, can we hang a sign under the drug/gun free sign that says “All students graduate with honors” does the simple act of hanging a sign make 100% of students graduate with honors? If so we have just found the answer to all our public education woes… hang a sign and make it so.

  39. avatar Calvin says:

    A lot of what I learned in highschool about people, especially when chained together into large bureaucracies, was by negative example.

  40. avatar Ralph says:

    Most college students would be better served learning a trade. For Ms. Wood, I would suggest that making sandwiches would be an intellectually challenging and rewarding occupation.

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      Only if someone opened the bread bag for her.

  41. avatar Pashtun6 says:

    Considering most college police departments carry firearms….

  42. avatar Sven says:

    44, 45, whatever it takes.

    1. avatar JR says:

      Nice. Excellent movie.

  43. avatar Pashtun6 says:

    There’s a guy in the comments of the actual article claiming the firearm is an M&P. ROFL,it’s clearly a SIG

  44. avatar jim says:

    Didn’t know sig made a .44 pistol

  45. avatar Aaron says:

    If the media can’t provide a news video of a mass student protest rally then the issue is probably not all that much of an issue to most students. Even many of those students currently opposed to the guns will probably not notice the armed guards a month from now.

  46. avatar JoeVK says:

    I bet she believes it when guys tell her “I’ll only put it in for a minute.”, too.

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