New from Heizer Defense: PAR1 .223 Pistol

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We couldn’t let NRA go by without stopping by the Heizer booth to take a look at their just-announced PAR1 .223 pocket pistol. Heizer’s Eric Polkis tells us that a 55gr bullet will manage almost 1500 fps out of that snubbie-length barrel. No word yet as to the size of the resulting fireball closely following right behind that round. We asked for a gun to review and it sounds like one is forthcoming. When it eventually arrives, we’ll be sure to include some low-light photos in the review . . .

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  1. avatar michael nieto says:

    how powerful is a 55 grain at 1500 fps

    1. avatar Swarf says:

      According to their web page, CCI’s .22LR Velocitor moves a 40gr pill at 1435fps. So, not a whole lot more.

      Granted, CCI doesn’t say how long of a barrel you need to get to that 1435, but still, this .223 single shot seems like a gimmicky piece of… kit whose most useful defensive application is going to be “mutual blinding by fireball”.

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        You can burn the beard, mustache, and probably all the hair on a perps head, with the flash, if nothing else

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Pee on the blinding, don’t you require a cast on your hand BEFORE you shoot that thing?

      3. avatar RandallOfLegend says:

        Not the velocitor, but stingers aren’t slow.

    2. avatar JT Niggle says:

      About 275 ft lbs at the muzzle, which is about equal to .22wmr, if it really manages to make 1500 fps.

      1. avatar iksnilol says:

        + the bullet is pointed which means better penetration.

      2. avatar RandallOfLegend says:

        If it’s a 3 in barrel, we are looking at 1200 fps. I don’t think that barrel looks to be a 3 incher.

        http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html

        1. avatar abboberg says:

          If this Heizer has a 3″ barrel, the BBTI value of 1147 ft/sec for the 55-grain bullet translates to 160 ft-lbs of muzzle energy, or roughly the top end of .32 ACP.

      3. avatar TJ Andersen says:

        Would faster burning powders make a difference?

  2. avatar Jake Tallman says:

    Wasn’t this exact article on TTaG a few days ago?

  3. avatar Frank Masotti says:

    It can not do that much damage at any kind of distance with that short of a barrel.

  4. avatar JT Niggle says:

    I’m calling BS on the 1500 fps claim until it’s proven, I’m betting around 1200 fps, which is 175 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle. Being a single shot, I think you may want to plan your follow up shot to be throwing the little Heizer at the attackers face.

  5. avatar Gregolas says:

    At muzzle contact with a bad guy, that fireball should make quite an impression.

    1. avatar Gene says:

      It’s to cauterize the entry wound.

  6. avatar Bob says:

    I think that the ATF rules say no steel cored ammo in a pistol and it can’t be imported. Doesn’t the green tip, M855, 5.56 have a steel core. Currently the ATF doesn’t classify it as AP ammo but they could redo the rules, this could affect the importation of the M855 ammo.

    1. avatar Paladin says:

      .223/5.56 handguns have been on the market for a while, this is not the first by any means. M855 has received an exemption, which is why you’re still able to import it.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Hey, you guys ever actually shoot 855 at a steel plate? I have, and regular ball ammo puts a more impressive hole in 1/4″ plate than the steel core does. I have also seen a display of a 5.56 and a 7.62 somehow sliced in half lengthwise, and the steel in the 5.56 is difficult to see, while the 7.62 looks like a full size 7mm bullet. One would in fact pierce armor, the other would not. Hence, exemption!

    2. avatar Steve Truffer says:

      M855 is not completely steel, and has thus been explicitly mentioned to not be restricted. Same reason you can get tungsten-frangible ammo. Its a tungsten/plastic mix, so exempt.

    3. avatar 16V says:

      The actual rules as per St. Bonzo’s GCA ’88…

      (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

      (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

    4. avatar CB says:

      You were right Bob. Seeing the future eh? Tell me who wins the Super Bowl next.

  7. avatar DrVino says:

    Why?

    1. avatar nathanredbeard says:

      And here is your obligatory “Why not?”

  8. avatar Bluesman007 says:

    Spoke to the DoubleTap folks at the NRA show – they are currently in litigation with Heizer…should be interesting.

    On a side note, I ran into Nick Leghorn at Sisk Rifles, and Kirsten Joy Weiss is even hotter than she is in her videos. She was engaging and funny. I’ll stop now. I’m embarrassing myself.

    1. avatar Danny Griffin says:

      > DoubleTap – they are currently in litigation with Heizer

      Heizer and DoubleTap are suing each other. They were supposed to go into mediation last November, but nothing has been posted since then so it doesn’t sound like it happened.

      1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

        Handled a double tap at the gun show today. That thing was huge!

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          There is a gun that does not fire HE ammo that you find huge?

    2. avatar 16V says:

      Kohout was the principal of a firearms store in STL named ‘Shooting Systems’ back in the 80s-early 90s.

      They were located across the highway from the Chrysler plant, and they moved iron like McD’s moves quasi-burgers back in the day.

      They were also under a gajillion clouds for how their ‘business model’ worked, and there were many rumblings about Fed action against them. Interestingly it all collapsed, was sold to chumps, err, mgmt who turned into Mid America Arms, moved location, and disappeared about a decade later…

    3. avatar LarryinTX says:

      I’m not accepting that it’s possible to be hotter than KJW is in her videos. A fox with a gun? What could be better?

  9. avatar Gabe says:

    I’m not so sure about the 1500fps out of that gun by looking at BBTI results. I dont know how long the barrel is so I guess Ill have to wait and see. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html

    1. avatar 16V says:

      You can be pretty safe in assuming it’s all BS. It’s what Kohout is famous for.

  10. avatar 505markf says:

    I cannot imagine why I would ever want this… Granted, I can see some SHTF folks (I am one of them) that might tuck this into his/her kit bag just in case, say, they end up with a fatal breakdown of their main rifle and have nothing else to defend with, but have a bit of .223 available. Or someone who has the money and wants to temporarily (playfully) blind their buddies during some dusk shooting practice.

    What other value could this possibly provide? Hell, pull the bullets from the .223 and use a Wrist Rocket. No impressive fireball, though. Hmmm… pondering this may take a beer or two…

  11. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

    are you kidding me with this piece of crap….whats next a one shot 50 bmg? now that’s a fireball…..

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Why would you need more than one shot with a .50 BMG?

      1. avatar salty` says:

        how about, “Because America”.

        i dont give two chits why, or how, or how effective. its becuase we can. now back to your mall ninjaing

  12. Just what nobody has ever wished for, asked for, or would, in their right mind, ever buy and use, but … hey .. great product.

    ; )

    1. avatar 16V says:

      People buy Judges.

      Just sayin’…

      1. The Judge and S&W’s equivalent make far more sense than this thing.

  13. avatar Clay Moore says:

    Very thoughtful of them to prick punch the trigger pin on both sides so it doesn’t fall out. So much easier than properly fitting the parts. And what is holding this thing together? Are those pre-stripped hex heads or some sort of rivets? Inquiring Gunsmiths want to know….

  14. avatar David B. says:

    I actually like innovation and the fact that you have people willing to take risks with their ideas. While this doesn’t have a place in my ultra-secure sock drawer, I wouldn’t kick it off the couch for eating crackers. Bully good for them for trying. You think that every rifle or ammo manufacturer hasn’t had a dud? This may join the 300 Blackout on the trash heap of history or it may not, but I’m not going to knock it.

  15. avatar Lfshtr says:

    Gunr, forget about the burn, hell he will be blind as a bat, oh shit so will the shooter. There I go again, have to wear dark glasses too! Be careful out there, next review will be a .308 in a crotch gun.

  16. avatar S_J says:

    Probably only two viable uses for this whatsit: World’s loudest starter pistol (assuming you can find .223 blanks), or a flashy substitute for a Zippo lighter. There is nothing this can do that an old High Standard .22 WMR derringer or a NAA mini-revolver can’t do better, if you *must* have something this tiny.

    Proof positive that the mallninja derringer market (such as it is) has officially gone Full Retard.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Hey, I have a bunch of .223 blanks, can’t seem to give them away, have no use for them, how much does that pistol cost?

  17. avatar Michelle says:

    300blk has been relegated to the trash heap of history? Where can I find that memo? I wasn’t aware – TTAG should get on that ASAP.

  18. avatar Alex in IL says:

    “Hello, Heizer Defense? Yes, I’d like a single shot pistol that will gently poke my assailant with a .22 round, but still be able to function as a flamethrower. You’ve got just the thing you say? I’ll take five!”

  19. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    It won’t be the 55 grain .223 bullet that incapacitates your attacker … it will be the giant fireball and concussion from the massive blast that stops the attacker in their tracks.

  20. avatar GS650G says:

    It can be used to light a signal fire when lost in the woods. You’ll need help getting on the helicopter with a broken hand.

  21. avatar KCK says:

    Actually as a contact weapon, it could be devistating.
    If the muzzel was pressed firmly against the body with the blast following into the wound channel. Shootingthebull should do a gel test for that.

  22. avatar Matt in FL says:

    Apparently these aren’t made on earth.

  23. avatar Snozzallos says:

    Won’t it have yaw problems at those mediocre velocities? I mean, that’s half the selling point of .223, after all…

  24. avatar Bob says:

    If I recall the lenghth of a pistol is from the breech to the muzzle. A 3 inch barrel minus a case length of approx 1.76 inches, ref SAAMI specs. gives a bullet travel of only1.24 inches. So with the shorter length you would proably get closer to 1000 to 900 fps. Reloading could probably get better velocity but be very careful.

  25. avatar Jimmy says:

    It will pierce class 3A.

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