Gun Tweet of the Day: Shannon Watts Edition

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Shannon, Shannon, Shannon. When you tell so many lies about guns and gun owners (90% want universal background checks!, ‘gun bullies’ intimidated us!) it gets hard to recognize the truth. But there’s no reason to tell a fib just because you’re embarrassed. Our man Alan Brooks saw the Moms Demand Action doyenne leaving Saturday’s SXSW civilian disarmament seminar and asked if she had a second for a quick photo. Figuring everyone must be a devoted fan, she said, “Sure!” After the pic, Alan then shook her hand and thanked her. And that’s the whole story behind the photo that’s provoking so much conversation (follow the subsequent tweet war here). And no small amount of creativity. See some examples after the jump . . .

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270 Responses to Gun Tweet of the Day: Shannon Watts Edition

    • avatarAndrew says:

      Wow… just wow.

      I am actually surprised that who ever is running the social media campaigns for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence would allow such a childish tit-for-tat to even happen. After reading the CSGV’s tweets all of our “gun-nut” paranoia is seemingly confirmed with such gems as this one:

      CSGV ‏@CSGV 2h
      @sithschnauzer The police have a responsibility to protect the public. Gun nuts have “Stand Your Ground” laws. Big difference.

      Its good to know that we’re all f*cking crazy, we’re going to shoot anything and everything that moves, and we are surely plotting against women, minorities, the state of Israel, the state of Palestine, people who walk on the correct side of the sidewalk, dogs, and trees.

      Its these sort of histrionics that make the CSGV’s arguments fall flat on their face. Why would I take anything you say seriously if you cant have an adult discussion about what firearms mean to our country, and the individuals who make up said country?

      • avatarOCD says:

        It is hard to have an adult conversion on just about any topic with someone who disagrees with your viewpoint.

      • avatarThomasR says:

        The level of hate, invective, ad-hominem attacks with not one ounce of reason, logic, or discussion of the issues.is just breath taking.

        It truly is like I’m looking into the minds of immature 12 year olds. More like children having a tantrum. Let alone mothers with children.

      • avatarAsmodeus says:

        I’m surprised whoever is running CSGV’s Twitter account would let them falsely accuse Alan of a felonious criminal act not once but twice.

        There’s a LOT of civil liability that attaches when you accuse someone knowingly and willfully of committing a felony while knowing such accusation is false and defamatory.

        How much you want to bet that whoever sent those Tweets out is now looking for another job?

        • avatarAndrew says:

          Was wondering that myself… that went from “NGO representative” to “librul with a chip on the shoulder” real quick…

        • avatarWilliam Burke says:

          “I’m surprised whoever is running CSGV’s Twitter account would let them falsely accuse Alan of a felonious criminal act not once but twice.”

          It gets worse! Accusing him of a felonious criminal act, WHILE DENYING IT HAPPENED!!

          Even if you can fix stupid, you certainly can’t fix THIS stupid.

      • avatarBrian says:

        just goes to show how insecure and childish these people REALLY are there Andrew. and that’s ALL they can do is sling mud (as evident by Shannon’s initial tweet that started the whole thing because she’s embarrassed, much like folks like Sheila Jackson Lee, the Senator who asked if the Mars rover could see the American flag left by the astronauts. and called the local Texas paper that printed the quote racist for putting it in an article from her interview) about a responsible gun owner (who’s following the law as law abiding citizen who is licensed to carry a concealed weapon like a firearm by the state of Texas, or as a reciprocated licensee from another state). But they have absolutely NO problem displaying their violent natures about Gun rights advocates time and again, but yet they attempt to maintain this arrogance by using words like “fetishism” (oh yeah “creepy” at that, pffft pul-eeze) to make them look good to the public eye.

    • avatarChris says:

      I thought they supported the second amendment and legally owned guns? (sarcasm) I mean if he was carrying on his ankle it probably fits the bill of guns they “like” right?

  1. avatarRyan says:

    Oh the pathos! These ‘victimized moms’ are terrible with rhetoric. But that is a glorious picture, no doubt about it!

    • avatarpeirsonb says:

      Something JUST occurred to me…..how good a “mom” can she be. Running a national non-profit anti-constitution group can’t possibly leave much time for actual parenting…..

      • avatarTaylor Tx says:

        hahaha I thought this before as well, just like having a traveling business man or policians for a parent, very little face time to actually do that parenting stuff :)

      • avatarDave says:

        With such absentee parenting, what kind of morals will her child grow up with? Poor thing could grow up believing that guns aren’t evil or even touch one if “mom” isn’t around… She may even grow up believing people should have the freedom to exercise all their Constitutional rights!

      • avatarTom says:

        Maybe the best thing that happens to those kids.

      • avatarTexanHawk says:

        Sorry PeirsonB, are you a Dad? Do you have a full time job? Then I guess based upon your assessment of SW, you’re not much of a Father. I highly disagree with SW and MMAG/MDA but to charterize her as a bad mother just because she has a full time job is sexist, unless you consider full time working fathers the same.

        • avatarpeirsonb says:

          Sorry PeirsonB, are you a Dad? Do you have a full time job?

          Yes, and yes.

          but to charterize her as a bad mother just because she has a full time job is sexist

          I did no such thing. In fact, if we are to believe that MDA is truly a non-profit, grassroots organization then Shannon does not have a full time job. She’s a volunteer. As a volunteer head of such an organization of MDA it is not unusual to spend 90-100 per week running the organization. Add to that insane amounts of travel that said people do.

          So, she is spending inordinate amounts of time away from her family for what is, ostensibly, a volunteer’s pay.

        • avatarGene says:

          Uh, as a Dad and full time employee, I put my child on the bus, meet my child getting off the bus, do the snack after school, do farm chores with him, do quality time with him, etc. Why do you suggest there’s mutual exclusivity with that? I believe the poi t is the difficulty is actuall spending time with you children while simultaneously flying all over the country pulling PR stunts.

        • avatarDirk Diggler says:

          LET’S BE CLEAR: SHANNON WATTS HAS 2 CHILDREN, BOTH GROWN/COLLEGE AGE. SHE HAS 3 STEP-CHILDREN, AND OTHER THAN THE BOY, THE GIRLS ARE GROWN/COLLEGE AGE. HER STEP-SON IS ABOUT 14. HARDLY A “CHILD” . . . . . LET’S STOP GIVING HER CREDIT

        • avatarDuke says:

          Okay peirsonb,

          So you claim you did not call her a bad mother for having a job, then outlined reasons why you called her a bad mother for being a volunteer.

          I think you missed the point there, just a little bit…

        • avatarJR says:

          Sorry, sir (Duke), but I think it is you that is missing the point.

          What he’s saying, in my read of what he said, is that it’s a question of priorities.

          Her family does not depend on what she’s doing (despite her delusions that she’s somehow protecting them). His job kind of does provide for the needs of his family in very direct and acute ways.

          To make it simple: she’s pursuing a political hobby and pretty much nothing more. To equate that with a man fulfilling his obligations to his family is, quite frankly, reprehensible.

        • avatarpeirsonb says:

          ^That

      • avatarWilliam Burke says:

        It takes a village.

        And she didn’t build that… everybody built that.

  2. avatarHiddenHills says:

    Shannon ! We LOVE you!
    Keep doing what you do (for 2A & TTAG)!

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    • avatarHiddenHills says:

      Shannon sez – “He claimed to be a Huge Fan!!!!!”

      Shannon, dear, we at TTAG *are* huge fans! We love every word you say. They make our jobs in presenting 2A so much easier, not to mention you are making us happy.

      Happy! Happy! Happy!

      I started out blue Monday, then got better because I read TTAG & Twitter.

      • avatarTheBear says:

        Even if he did say he’s a huge fan, who cares? It’s hilarious.

        This back and forth schoolyard stuff is just lame.

        I’m still trying to figure out how anyone can be “held accountable” for doing nothing illegal too…

  3. avatarFlash says:

    It’s not lying if they don’t ask (or in MDA’s case, if you actually believe what you are saying) And if he said that he was lawfully carrying before asking for that picture that tweet would read as the following: “Responsible gun owner from @guntruth threatens mom w/ loaded gun”

  4. avatarTom S. says:

    Not for nothing – but we all had to know this was going to blow up, right? And – even though it’s not biggie – it does kinda seem a little childish… doesn’t it? A little?

    • avatarFlash says:

      So far this tweet seems to win the childish award for the day “Shannon ‏@shannonrwatts 4h
      .@GunTruth came to #SXSW panel, lied & said he was “huge fan”, gets off on taking pic w/loaded gun. @CSGV #MomsDemand pic.twitter.com/QVh0yksvzT”

    • avatarJR says:

      No. It’s funny. And the aftermath is pathetic…on their part.

      What’s childish is all the name calling (misogynistic, women haters, etc) from JUST A PHOTO!

      Come on. Alan did not hurt her in any way, shape or form. He asked to get a photo taken. Both parties are smiling.

      And, he proved two very important points:

      (1) Their fear of guns is completely irrational.
      (2) They will lie and mischaracterize the facts of what happened to fit their narrative.

      In this particular part of the culture war that Shannon Watts started with her idiotically named activist group, what Alan did was fight back.

      And, he won. He’s showing them to be frightened little mice that cannot even stand to have their picture taken next to a (gasp!) man…who they only LATER learned was carrying a gun.

      • avatarcrndl says:

        she’ll be limiting her contact w/the unwashed public to waving from her popemobile from now on to avoid this type of embarrassing incident :)

      • avatarCT Resident says:

        Having involuntarily followed Shannon Watt’s (Shannon Troughton as she was known when she was working as a Public Relations/Communications Pro) a few things come to mind.

        1. She is a Public Relations Propagandist, she avails herself of the tools and opportunities that present themselves. In this case it appears that she is using the “victim card” to claim some sort of harm, within the ranks of “true believers” in her movement it will be good for some “righteous outrage” and bonding against the enemy (us), and probably more revenue generation.

        2. She appears to be really naive. She really doesn’t get it that regular gun owners are just normal people. Demonizing them is really turning against her. Also it appears that she is now a paid organizer and that runs counter to her message that she is “just a Mom” and the “Mom” Branding.

        3. Going from a “behind the scenes” Public Relations “Perception Manager” to front line “celebrity” has had some peculiar flubs, like her using her home address for the corporation, and her surprise that the public would actually talk to her and question her.

        4. She is likely a “true believer” and I can imagine that she would do “anything” to further her objectives.

      • avatarspiralego says:

        Bingo.

    • avatarDuke of Sharon says:

      Not that I’ve done anything to support the cause today, and yes, this is total Monday Morning Quarterbacking but . . . :

      More hay could probably have been made by playing this not as “gotcha” but: “See, we pro gun rights people are so pleasant and normal that even our enemies cannot identify us. Also, an anti gunner was actually in the presence of a gun and did not die. As for deceit, neither of the persons pictured asked the other what he/she had in his/her pockets or on his/her person. It didn’t matter to Alan what objects Shannon had on her possession; why would it matter to Shannon what objects Alan had on his person?”

    • avatarIan says:

      I would say this is the opposite of childish. The anti’s show up at our favorite events in droves waving signs and spouting hate speech at random passers by, wearing their cloak feral blindness to protect them from any opinion or fact that isn’t their own.

      When we show up at their events we are courteous and respectful. We listen even though we don’t agree and we mingle, smiling politely and shaking hands with everyone we meet even though the whole point of their event is a disgrace to our country and it’s people.

      I know which one sounds more childish to me.

      • avatarMina says:

        and … to take a comparison to horse training. When training a horse we don’t expect the horse to understand human language so we learn to speak to it in language it will understand. Then we can expect it to respond to our cues.

        Same with the Liberals. We have to use language they understand. This photo with the captions included and all detail are the very same tactics they use against us. They do that because that is all they understand.

        We like to take the high road, to show our higher value by being nicer, accomodating and friendly. How they interpret that is: Weak, doormat, accepts defeat and all of our accusations. Win!

        The solutions is: We have to stop trying to be the bigger person and lead the Lib by example. They will never follow because they do not understand. In contrast, when we use the language and actions that the Lib will understand and that is how we beat them. We can still be the better person and use facts, data, rational debate but how we deliver it – that is the key. See: Ben Shapiro How to Debate Liberals on YouTube

        • avatarTheBear says:

          +1

          This in spades.

          I’ve been saying for a long time now that one of the biggest drawbacks of gun rights activists and conservatives in general is a larger rural population. Larger rural population = less people with tech skills or finger to the pulse of pop culture.

          Culture wars now are not won by sit ins or anything like that. They’re won through memes, blogs, and animated shorts.

          It’s a new era, and unfortunately the NRA still has a lot of OFWG dead weight and needs to catch up.

        • avatarGene says:

          Gotta love horses and horse sense. I love my herds.

  5. avatarBill says:

    I would have let her COMmENT MODERATED me just to be sure I wasn’t packing

  6. avatarDirk Diggler says:

    When I grow up, I want to be just like Alan Brooks. And if Shannon is “freaked” out by armed men, how does she explain being around Bloomy? Those men in suits with dark sunglasses are not cops and they are not part of the cool crowd in NYC. Them is armed dudes.

    • avatarTaylor Tx says:

      “Whadda you want us to use man, harsh language?” Yea, thats one of those if I can willfully ignore it will go away thoughts the antis have.

  7. avatarMiketheHopsFarmer says:

    So wait, the way I read her bad grammar is that the mom was packing? English Shannon, there are rules to sentence structure. Perhaps you need a background check and license before using english?!

    • avatarJohn E> says:

      She was probably 3 glasses into that bottle of cheap California wine when she wrote. She has a face with alcoholic stuper written all over it.

      • avatarDirk Diggler says:

        and now you know my interest . . . . :-)

        • avatarChip in Florida says:

          coffee through the nose! And the rest of the cubicle farm looking nervously at the man snorting with laughter!

      • avatarWilliam Burke says:

        Cheap Sherry, I bet. And while I wouldn’t want to disparage cheap Sherry, I did date her a couple times. She was a cheap tease, and didn’t put out.

        • avatarGene says:

          Would that a,biguous pronoun reference be for someone named “Cheap Sherry” or “Shannon Watts”? I get so confused.

  8. avatarRokurota says:

    “Responsible gun owner…”

    Holy crap, we JUST WON.

    • avatarThe average American says:

      I think that was her attempt at sarcasm, but I don’t see how anyone could think he acted irresponsibly. Then again she thinks all citizens with guns are bullies/stalkers/fetishists/misogynists/racists/mass-murders, so why do we take her seriously?

  9. avatarpeirsonb says:

    Responsible gun owner from @guntruth lies to take pic w/ mom w/ loaded gun

    Wait, Shannon was carrying too? Maybe she’s coming around, good for her :)

  10. avatarMike says:

    The way her tweet was written, Shannon was packing. Did Alan feel threatened?

  11. avatarg says:

    Haha, what a PR FAIL! And no matter what she does to try and control the damage, the illusion has been shattered.

    Newsflash, gun control proponents… the pro-2A community is filled with regular, sensible folks.

  12. avatarJR says:

    Okay, so Shannon is the PR “expert” hired to put the right face on the civilian disarmament movement. She is, we may assume, the best money could buy for this battle front.

    And, she has been soundly beaten by a simple act of social politeness.

    For all her cries of misogyny and women-hating in those tweet threads, and all the ire and anger…she sure does not look frightened in that photo.

    She’s a PR phony and here’s the proof. SOME of her followers will see this. Here’s to hoping that every Google search for the mums hits on these ttag pages and reveals the truth of who they are.

    MAIG tried to engineer a repeat of the MADD successes. And they have FAILED.

    I look for SW to be replaced at Moms soon…by end of summer is my guess. Staples, Facebook, this…she’s just not doing the job.

    • avatarneiowa says:

      IF she was a COMPETENT PR PRO would she be working this small time puissant project? Not in this day of unlimited libtard “messaging” campaign $ flowing in DC

      • avatarDirk Diggler says:

        maybe it is compensation review time and Bloomy wants to make sure some of her metrics are met. . . ?

    • avatarg says:

      She’s an ex-PR hack for MONSANTO. That should tell you everything you need to know about her idea of “truth”…

    • avatarPaulus says:

      Every time i see a MAIG, CSGV, or MDA tweet, fb post, meme, or ‘news story’ i am reminded of the boy who cried wolf too many times and of chicken little crying ‘the sky is falling!’ their over the top antics have basically become nothing more than a three-ring circus largely ignored by the masses and anyone with even an average IQ coupled with common sense.

  13. avatarRandy Drescher says:

    You guys should be ashamed, ashamed I say, for exploiting that wonderfull sweetheart. Next up, the bloomberg is really a wonderfull guy post.

  14. avatarLurker_of_lurkiness says:

    I spose this is the reason for the new policy, if they are willing to outright lie about what happens, imagine if they saw some of the “jokes” on here, sure everyone knows its a joke, but for those who “need to believe”

    • avatarGeneral Zod says:

      Never underestimate the liberal capacity to play stupid in the face of sarcasm or humor – if it allows them to feign outrage.

  15. avatarFlash says:

    I didn’t really pay attention to the whole bloggers considered journalists thing, but assuming bloggers have the same protections as journalists, isn’t bringing up stalking irrelevant if said journalist is reporting on your event, whether you like them or not?

  16. avatarfuque says:

    I am twitter challenged, I don’t know the significance of the hash tag, or the forward slashes.. Is she bragging about the photo op?, or is she back peddling because she was duped?

  17. avatarHenry Bowman says:

    This is awesome! Get video, next time, to help expose their lies.

  18. avatarmirgc says:

    HAHAHA. Just check out the facebook pages. They are sure in a tizzy from all the embarrassment. I’d comment, but I’m saving my 5-seconds of fame (be fore being banned) for something more special.

    I think it’s a nice picture!

    https://www.facebook.com/CoalitiontoStopGunViolence

    • avatarpeirsonb says:

      Wow….a comparison between Alan and Mark David Chapman. And WE’RE the bullies….

    • avatarFlash says:

      I couldn’t help but notice there is an awful lot of misandry over there. I’m curious what the reaction would’ve been if it was Emily Miller.

      • avatarJR says:

        Yeah, calling him a stalker is the pinnacle of delusion.

        Let her keep digging that hole. A lot of would-be MDA followers / prospective members will see the true colors. Not all females that have children are as easily duped as SW thinks.

        After all, with all the effort they’ve put into their publicity campaigns and emotional appeals, they only have 18K twitter followers. And some of those are gun rights folks keeping tabs…

    • avatarfuque says:

      I left a comment on their facebook page.. Im sure they will delete it it tho..

      • avatarmirgc says:

        Be sure to get your stop-watch out and let us know. I think 30-seconds is about the quickest I’ve seen.

    • avatarneiowa says:

      Your dimwits apparently are at war with the NRA and ALEC.

      What is ALEC? I think I may need to join. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

      • avatarJus Bill says:

        Not necessarily. The enemy of my enemy shares just one common interest with me.

      • avatarDirk Diggler says:

        ALEC is the american legislative exec council. . . . or something like that. It is basically a chance for state legislators to meet and “harmonize” state laws to keep them from being too radically different. It was criticized a few years back b/c of some left wing propaganda

    • avatarKelly in GA says:

      We must be winning, even with them. The photo caption from 3:23 on Saturday says, “When a child is shot, an adult is to blame.”

      OMFG THEY DIDN’T BLAME THE GUN!!!

  19. avatarMina says:

    You can’t moderate me on Twitter. ;-)

  20. avatarErik says:

    Now you’ll have to take the Sigfried Oath before you’re allowed to take a picture with her….

  21. avatarRoll says:

    Typical that they would spin this in a negative manner. They’re probably busy deleting all the posts on their website/twitter/FB that support gunowners and expose MDAs closemindedness.

  22. He lied?

    Did she ask him, “Do you have a concealed handgun?”

    And did he answer, “No.”

    So what was the lie?

    Did she mean to write, “Irresponsible”?

    I am totally confused.

    • avatarLayne says:

      I think she’s insinuating it’s a “lie of omission” (this is a woman thing, don’t be surprised if you haven’t heard of it). However, in this case would it not be illegal for him to tell her he was carrying concealed? I believe it is in Texas.

      • avatarJR says:

        Is it a lie of omission for a woman to stand next to a man and not tell him it is her time of the month? Or, perhaps that she does / does not use a particular form of birth control?

        Who believes it is right or required to divulge all personal information in an informal social setting like this?

  23. avatarRoss says:

    Now this is just funny.

  24. avatarAsmodeus says:

    So. Much. Win!

    I wanted to thank you guys for giving us the material for our most popular meme ever. As of right now it’s got 2650 likes, it’s been shared 2.255 times and 372,000 people have viewed it.

  25. avatarTaylor Tx says:

    He lied by saying “Hey can I take a picture with you?” /facepalm

    In all seriousness, It seems like twitter is a lot of “Two kids arguing by trying to yell over eachother.”

    That being said I did make an account for that damn walther 22 contest and I added ze guntruth anyway.

  26. avatarMina says:

    As the token female on the blog I am having a twitter field day with this :-)

  27. avatarLJM says:

    Winning

  28. avatarRoscoe says:

    Too funny. What a vapid, lame response from Watts et al. over a non-event.

    Comment moderated.

  29. avatarPascal says:

    With all her supposed marketing experience, you would think she would know when to shut up — her tweet will be an epic fail and only help reinforce gun owners resolve. Sometime it is better to shut up

    • avatarRoscoe says:

      Yep. These people are more often than not their own worst enemies. If the mainstream liberal press wasn’t always coming to their rescue and puffing up their cause, they’d be out’a here.

      She’s worse than a half-wit; she’s a no-wit.

    • avatarMina says:

      What she is doing and what we should all be jumping on, is exposing her own lies about her goals with the MDA.

      • avatarRoscoe says:

        Watts and MDA has goals?

        I thought they were all just following their pied piper.

        • avatarJus Bill says:

          The goal is to bank as much money as she can before the well runs dry. She’s just doing self-directed inward PR. And the Mighty Midget is being conned big time, but is too vain to admit it.

        • avatarDirk Diggler says:

          a lot of us have done dumb sh!t and spent way too much $$ to get laid.

  30. avatarDon says:

    So she’s out to take my rights away and she’s the victim? This woe-is-me victim charade is low.

    She’s the self-proclaimed common-sense reasonable person, yet all of her ideas weaken the law abiding against criminals? The gall of these victim-card-playing know-nothings who wake up one day and think “I have a new idea to solve problem X!” and then proceed to push for the same incredibly stupid miss-the-mark policies that have failed X over and over again. I get it Shannon, you are passionate, but passion doesn’t make you knowledgeable on the issue and successfully leveraging your expertise to manipulate other know-nothings to get behind your “new ideas” doesn’t make them good ones. Truth isn’t democratic and can’t be established with a PR campaign.

    If you want to reduce gun violence and have the moral and legal high ground then go out on the street and catch some violent criminals in the act and take their guns, because in a free country a person is not a criminal until they demonstrate themselves to be through their actions and the state proves it with evidence. If you want to take guns from the law abiding then be prepared to commit a humanitarian atrocity under the auspices of guilty-until-proven-innocent to do so, because that’s what you are going to have to do to us to get your way.

    In the meantime go watch the movie Deacon’s for Defense, 2003, starring Forest Whitaker, and familiarize yourself with the far more subtle and local threat of tyranny that the 2A is there to allow us to defend against, and why even though there are many mechanisms for liberty the 2A is important too. If you don’t understand after that I suggest you go buy yourself a bow-tie.

    -D

    • avatarExcedrine says:

      She doesn’t want to understand because she just doesn’t give a rat’s ass, as much as she simply pretends that she does.

      No, What she wants is for more dumb rubes to sacrifice themselves and their children, whom she will use as shields and soapboxes, on the Altar To Stupidity to get rid of something that she simply doesn’t like.

      That’s all there is to it.

    • avatarJeff says:

      NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS

      JUST:
      - Bring back the assault weapons ban
      - Register all assault weapons
      - Confiscate any unregistered assault weapons (huh? how do you find them?)
      - Universal background checks
      - After a year of universal background checks, we need full registration because it turns out (surprise) UBCs are un-enforcable without full registration
      - No high-capacity clipazines over ten, seven, or maybe five rounds
      - Ban high-powered military caliber ammunition bullets
      - Make concealed carry permits unobtainable or nearly worthless by making all public places “gun free zones”

      BUT I REPEAT, NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS. YOU DON’T HAVE A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF IT!

  31. avatarJames says:

    So has there been an increase in coexisting, compassionate, and tolerant lefties since Shannon decided to play the lied to victim card? Based on her tweet and the CSGV’s tweet, they are seeing red and not the most emotionally stable.

    • avatarMina says:

      Amygdala hijack.

      And the good news is if we’re careful we can keep it going until her whole brain explodes.

  32. avatarExcedrine says:

    In the words of Charlie Sheen: WINNING.

  33. avatarWI Patriot says:

    pwned…

  34. avatarAlex Peters says:

    Definition of irony: Hypothetically, If someone had shown up to that event and threatened anyone in that room, you can bet Alan would’ve stepped in to protect them.

    • avatarJR says:

      In one of the twitter threads, one of Watts’ followers said “they don’t want {gun owner’s} protection.”

      Not sure if that person would be singing that same tune in a real active shooter scenario, but it has been said…

    • avatarNine says:

      If that is true then he is a better person than I.

      That is the America they want, let them have a taste.

  35. avatarRobert Farago says:

    They’ve taken to as hominem attacks now. Let it be known that Alan is a Marine and former LEO, now special ed teacher.

    • avatarJR says:

      Which totally breaks down their crap even further.

      “He’s a bad, bad man, woman hater and stalker!” Only…you are standing there SMILING next to him, obviously not threatened by his demeanor at all.

      “Guns make you evil…you can’t help it!” Good thing that friendly looking, smiling gentleman in the photo was able to resist, then.

      “Only cops and military should have guns!” Okay, Alan was a cop and military.

      Alan…I repeat: You win. This was brilliant. You beat her at her own game.

      I’m guessing Bloomberg is blowing a gasket today – not over the photo, but over SW’s total failure in handling it today.

      She could have gone for the PR win (killed with kindness and maybe a bit of self deprecation) but instead opted for the defensive two-year-old approach. Not flattering at ALL.

      Hers is a PR war, and she is losing …

    • avatarDon says:

      I’m looking forward to an expose on the ad-hominem nature of these official organization’s arguments. ;) Good job Robert ;)

    • avatarpeirsonb says:

      Permission to spam all associated Twitter accounts and Facebook pages with those facts?

    • avatarTom in Oregon says:

      Yeah. The name calling on their FB site is quite amusing.

      • avatarjanitor says:

        i was also amazed at the “low brow” comments on a page with such an enlightened liberal view point.

  36. avatarWielsucker (@Wielsucker) says:

    I’m glad my mom isn’t a communist puppet.

  37. avatarDon says:

    CSGV twitter is exploding with all of this “intimidation” and “gun fetishism” and “misogyny” stuff.

    I hadn’t realized that their position is that gun owners are savage low-intelligence sub-humans who all have dangerous predilections toward violent outbursts with a measure of oversexualization. I’ve learned about this form of prejudiced code-language in an African American Studies course I took in college. I’m surprised the people at CSGV haven’t immediately noticed this serious problem in their ranks.

    -D

    • avatarJR says:

      What serious problem in their ranks? They encourage thinking like that if it forwards their agendas.

      • avatarDon says:

        The problem is that it is the very language and style of a kind of virulent prejudice which even in recent history has lead to oppression and violence.

        • avatarJR says:

          Which is, in its way, exactly what they want.

          Gun grabbers are all about oppression. If they can use violence (even that committed by others) to achieve their goal, they will.

          It is no accident that they use those rhetorical styles you describe.

        • avatarDon says:

          ew. this is more typical of racist and nationalist movements, not for civil societies who know better and have the lens of history.

        • avatarMarcus says:

          Did you think they simply want us to lay down our arms to hold hands and sing kumbaya with them? They either don’t care or want us to be oppressed.

        • avatarJR says:

          “not for civil societies who know better and have the lens of history.”

          No offense, man, but I think you are DRASTICALLY misreading the anti-gun crowd.

          The only lens of history they care about is that you cannot control an armed population.

        • avatarDon says:

          It’s ok, I understand. If it quacks like tyranny and looks like a mom, it’s still likely tyranny. I think others don’t understand how identical their tactics are to other oppressive movements, hence my comment, somewhat feigning ignorance.

    • avatarpeirsonb says:

      I hadn’t realized that their position is that gun owners are savage low-intelligence sub-humans who all have dangerous predilections toward violent outbursts with a measure of oversexualization.

      FWIW: That’s also their stance on MEN.

      • avatarMina says:

        That is correct. Gun control is a facet of the emasculation of men.

        It’s not really the guns they are afraid of it is the person who is not afraid of the guns, who understands the nature of the gun, the utility of the gun they are afraid of.

        Generally that means men.

        One reason why I have so much fun debating with them; they have zero idea how to fling their poo at a women (protected class, remember??) who is gun friendly.

        • avatarWendy says:

          Heh. As a female gun owner also, I have great fun with the “guns are penis extenders!” crowd. The concept of a woman (and a mom!) who likes to shoot just blows their minds.

      • avatarDon says:

        note that proliferating these exact notions is identical in form and goal as the social engineering used to oppress free blacks in the south.

  38. avatarHannibal says:

    Wait, who said it was loaded? It couldn’t have been. We all know that a LOADED GUN would have killed any child within 1,000 feet of that place.

  39. avatarShwiggie says:

    I’m guessing we need common sense camera control now?

  40. avatarFred says:

    How are we supposed to have civil discussion on the topic if they can’t even stand next to a legally-armed American citizen?

    It makes sense she would be upset that we poked fun at her not knowing a gun (!) was so close to her, so she responded and then went through the standard procedure to make her the victim. If she wasn’t a victim that would mean she tolerates guns in at least one way and that would be a bad message to send to her followers. Complete intolerance of anything gun-related is the only response possible. Because of that, though, she may have been forced to respond in that way where she otherwise would not have cared.

    It’s always sad to see the policy make a puppet of what used to be a person. Shannon is now under the control of the message of total gun intolerance. She has no freedom to think or act for herself now, she is MDA (a wholly-owned subsidy of Bloomberg Anti-RIghts Advocacy INC. Bloomberg: We Know Better).

    • avatarJR says:

      “How are we supposed to have civil discussion on the topic if they can’t even stand next to a legally-armed American citizen? ”

      Excellent point. +100.

      Even more fail on SW’s part in how she has responded to this.

    • avatarAsmodeus says:

      She’s never been in control of anything. She was a corporate spinmeister for Monsanto, WellPoint and a host of other despicable corporations. She’s simply selling herself to the next one after her art gallery crashed & burned like an Iraqi fighter jock.

      It’s what she does and she does it well. She’s earned her millions turning vile corporate practices into positive sounding sound bites for consumption by people who do not know any better… just like she is doing at MDA.

      • avatarJR says:

        “It’s what she does and she does it well.”

        Well, I’ve got to say I disagree with the ‘does it well’ part.

        Her track record as the face of the moms groups is a disaster. Low turn-out to publicity events, utter failure to do ANYTHING and worse…to even spin it positively in a believable way, etc.

        She may have had some success in the corporate world, but there was no real “opponent.” Here, in this job, I think she’s just making a fool of herself.

        She’s not really convincing anybody, even fence sitters. This latest just proves (in my mind) that she does not really know how to do this kind of PR…she’s totally melting down and trying tactics that are only earning ridicule.

        • avatarAsmodeus says:

          JR- by “doing well” I meant lying her ass off. Not that she was capable of crafting successful lies or that her lies gain any traction in the real world but rather the sole act of lying :-)

        • avatarJR says:

          Gotcha! ;)

      • avatarJus Bill says:

        I must disagree. Logic dictates that if she was any good at her trade she would still be “a corporate spinmeister for Monsanto, WellPoint and a host of other despicable corporations.”

        • avatardirk diggler says:

          well, there is the whole marrying the former despicable company president thing. . .

  41. avatarLurker_of_lurkiness says:

    While I hate being sexist at all, perhaps getting a woman, or better yet a mom to get a pic with her next time would be a good idea? That would take away their only (fake) response, have a voice recorder as well to prove you didn’t lie. I imagine finding a woman ccw-er would probably make her melt down.

    • avatarMina says:

      I already asked on Twitter – “how would this situation be different had it been me getting a photo with Shannon and not Alan?”

      ~ crickets ~

      … because I am in fact a real woman, about Shannon’s size (i.e not too tall, size-2 petite, probably considered attractive for a middle-aged lady) and I have three kids. I also dress pretty much like Alan – casual, jeans, kind of outdoorsy.

    • avatarWendy says:

      It wouId be great to have a female gun owner posing next to a beaming Shannon. “O hai Shannon, I’m a mom just like you! Can I get a pic with you! Thanks ever so!”

      • avatarRick Testa says:

        Maybe now she’ll be reluctant to have a photo taken with ANYONE, fearing that the person might be a female gun owner!

    • avatarHannibal says:

      Good idea. Don’t let sexism get in the way of good rhetoric (not sarcastic).

  42. avatarRalph says:

    Can I get a copy of that picture? Poster size? I want it on my wall. I need it on my wall. And I’d love to have it autographed.

  43. avatarFoRealz? says:

    I laughed, I cried, I bought the entire series.

    Oh the humanity!

    Pretty funny stuff. I thought her misogyny accusation was a classy touch.

    Let me translate her FemiNazi/Commie speak:

    Misogyny: when men don’t white knight for her, or run like puppies to agree with every dumb thought that ejects itself from her mouth. An accusation of such is usually used by a feminist woman, who often likes to loudly proclaim that she doesn’t need a man, to get a man to do something she needs doing. Like agree with her, or punch other men who disagree with her. See psychological game called “Let’s you and him fight”

    Creepy: when a man that she does not find attractive does something outrageous like deigns to exist in her general vicinity. Note for readers – when a man that a feminist does find attractive does that same something, it’s not considered creepy by her. Catch-all insult that immature and vapid women and girls use to insult men. Example: “Brian from chem class asked me for my phone number.” “Ewww…creepy.”

    Fetishism – likely refers to the typical suburban housewife’s penchant for mommy-porn like “50 Shades”, et. al. I sense projection here.

    Stalking: see creepy translation.

    These moms suffer from boredom, and a condition called:

    Solipsism

    1.Philosophy. the theory that only the self exists, or can be proved to exist.
    2.extreme preoccupation with and indulgence of one’s feelings, desires, etc.; egoistic self-absorption.

    That is all.

  44. avatardwb says:

    So full of win.

  45. avatarCurious says:

    I wonder if Shannon likes fireworks? In my experience, people who like fireworks also like shooting. I like the concussion of mortars and watching big colorful star bursts. Shooting is simular, especially if shooting water filled bottles, balloons, cans, and targets other than boring paper. I enjoy introducing kids and moms to shooting. I love history and discussing how the antique/service rifles I allow they to try helped to shape events (Muzzleloader/1861 Colt repro/SMLE/Garand/Mosin/1919a4/1911a1). BTW: paper can be fun for kids. Draw a tick-tac-toe board and see who wins with 1 person shooting .50 cal muzzle loader and 1 doing .22 or .30; draw a mouthless face and see if shooter can add a smile; try to use their ideas. I wonded if Shannon would thank me for giving her the experience and say something like what I often hear after intoducing others to shooting: “that was so much fun!” If so, we could explore why sailing in light winds and fishing without catching anything can still be awesome. However, I doubt you can convert a motorboat person into a sailer. It is probably intrinsic, like being a morning person or not.

  46. avatarbeanfield says:

    Ahem, “fetishism” & “stalk”… don’t flatter yourself.

    Isn’t this the same group that just stalked staples employees and was ejected from their HQ? #irony

    • avatarCoolBreeze72 says:

      Such accusations!! What next Shannon?! “RAPE!! RAPE!! Well, I FELT like I was VIOLATED”. Who is abusing the abused, Shannon? Do a mirror check.

  47. avatarCoolBreeze72 says:

    All the photo did was extend her 15 minutes of shame.

  48. avatarHiddenHills says:

    I wonder how many people I “stalk” at Walmart, every week with my concealed Kel-Tec…….

  49. avatarPavePusher says:

    “Stalking”?! Pretty strong words there, CSGV. Please, take your ‘evidence’ to the police. I’d love to watch them try to file a false police report.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      wonder if we need a lawyer to inform Ms. Watts and company the meaning of “Slander” and “Libel” for making such claims. File a police report or apologize

  50. avatarT says:

    Well, I knew this was going to happen. There response as usual is hilarious!

  51. avatarDaniel Silverman says:

    Wow CSGV went on a three year old style rant this morning hahahaa.
    Now that is full of win!!!!

  52. avatarGene says:

    Watch, the best part – Alan _WASN’T_ carrying! He just _said_ he was.

    #FellForIt

  53. avatarCoe says:

    If I was an anti-gun leader and this happened to me, I would just laugh it up as a harmless joke that it is, brush it off, and forget about it. I would not however, tweet about it and make myself look like an butt hurt, opportunistic, immature half-adult.

    • avatarJR says:

      ^^^This.

      There are 100 ways she could have handled this with some professionalism and dignity.

      Instead she went “school children.” Hope Bloomberg feels he’s getting his money’s worth. Looking incompetent, immature and constantly defensive may have been part of the overall strategy from the beginning for all I know.

  54. avatarTom in Oregon says:

    Alan, this has got to be impacting you. Being hated by 7 or 8 moms…

  55. avatarDev says:

    She sounds an awful lot like our current president. She got caught in an embarrassing situation for her. Instead of letting it go, or telling the truth of what happened, she makes up a lie and tries to attack her opposition. Pathetic, really.

  56. avatarO-Hebi says:

    T-shirts!!!!!!! WHEN?!!!

  57. avatarDoug says:

    Tell ya what, it only takes a few short moments of visiting that website of hers to get a truly creeped out feeling. The responses to this picture on her website are also scary, she does have a dozen or two hitlerish followers for sure.

    • avatarDaniel Silverman says:

      Just waiting for the calls for his head on a stick. They have pretty much lost it over this. The more they spew the more it points out how hysterical they are. I am sure there has to be some sort of medication for their problem.

  58. avatarCknarf says:

    Gasp! She narrowly escaped with her life lol.

  59. avatarMaineuh says:

    I wonder how well they pay the person responsible for deleting opposing comments on their Facebook page. I’ve seen it go on into the wee, wee hours. They are committed to censorship, you gotta give them that.

  60. avatarMaineuh says:

    How’s Alan doing with all this? Is he hee heeing or pasting on a fake mustache and heading for a Motel 8 in Nome?

  61. avatarAsmodeus says:

    Just noticed that CSGV accused you of a felonious act. Might want to speak to a civil attorney that is 2A friendly and wants to twist Laddie’s panties into a knot.

    Stalking is defined in the TX State Penal Codes as follows:

    Sec. 42.072. STALKING. (a) A person commits an offense if the person, on more than one occasion and pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct that is directed specifically at another person, knowingly engages in conduct that:

    (1) constitutes an offense under Section 42.07, or that the actor knows or reasonably should know the other person will regard as threatening:

    (A) bodily injury or death for the other person;

    (B) bodily injury or death for a member of the other person’s family or household or for an individual with whom the other person has a dating relationship; or

    (C) that an offense will be committed against the other person’s property;

    (2) causes the other person, a member of the other person’s family or household, or an individual with whom the other person has a dating relationship to be placed in fear of bodily injury or death or in fear that an offense will be committed against the other person’s property, or to feel harassed, annoyed, alarmed, abused, tormented, embarrassed, or offended; and

    (3) would cause a reasonable person to:

    (A) fear bodily injury or death for himself or herself;

    (B) fear bodily injury or death for a member of the person’s family or household or for an individual with whom the person has a dating relationship;

    (C) fear that an offense will be committed against the person’s property; or

    (D) feel harassed, annoyed, alarmed, abused, tormented, embarrassed, or offended.

    (b) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree, except that the offense is a felony of the second degree if the actor has previously been convicted of an offense under this section or of an offense under any of the following laws that contains elements that are substantially similar to the elements of an offense under this section:

    (1) the laws of another state;

    (2) the laws of a federally recognized Indian tribe;

    (3) the laws of a territory of the United States; or

    (4) federal law.

    (c) For purposes of this section, a trier of fact may find that different types of conduct described by Subsection (a), if engaged in on more than one occasion, constitute conduct that is engaged in pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct.

    (d) In this section:

    (1) “Dating relationship,” “family,” “household,” and “member of a household” have the meanings assigned by Chapter 71, Family Code.

    (2) “Property” includes a pet, companion animal, or assistance animal, as defined by Section 121.002, Human Resources Code.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      thank you for that – saves me from pulling up TX law. . . . . Now, can someone from TTAG tweet that either Shannon publicly apologizes or file a police report??

    • avatarJus Bill says:

      You know, from reading that Alan is the one that’s being stalked. I think at this point there’s more than libel/slander in play.

    • avatarMina says:

      This is actually a “thing” and we call it “Black Knighting”

      Here’s a recent case: Some armed guards in their uniforms were sent to some historic place in Italy to secure it. They were met by hordes of young pretty women/girls who proceeded to hand out flowers to the guards and their photos were taken and published in the local papers as a sign of “goodness of love and peace”

      Meanwhile the armed guard in question who had his photo published of a young woman lovingly kissing the front bottom lip of his helmet visor (her eyes closed) told the interviewer he was going to be filing Sexual Harrassment charges against her and fully expected her to be fined, tried and punished!!

      Funnily enough as a follow up said pretty girl turns out to be a foul-mouthed feminist who proclaimed that she’d have as soon shit on his face and kiss his helmet that day …

      so there you go. Black Knighting. Do it.

  62. avatarKyle says:

    He would only have lied if she had asked him, “Are you carrying a gun?” and he had responded, “No, I am not.” But apparently she never did this. She just assumed he was a gun control fan.

    • avatarGene says:

      So what? He’s not under oath. He has no obligation to answer any question she asks. She doesn’t need to know what personal property he owns. It’d be as appropriate as asking her how how much gold jewelry show owns or how much money she’s carrying.

      • avatarKyle says:

        Your argument is that he would have had every right to lie even if she had asked him, which I agree with. But my point is that he did not lie to her.

        • avatarGene says:

          Understood. I was trying to expand upon it to suggest that truthfullness was irrelevant.

          Besides, she lied to him in making him think he’d be welcomed as anyone else in the general public to that event.

  63. avatarSteve says:

    Don’t you just love it when those stupid gun grabbers get punked and don’t even realize it? She probably would have FAINTED had she known he was carrying.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      she would have fainted if he shook her hands afterwards and said “Hi, I am Dirk. Let’s got have a drink.”

  64. avatarlonelyranger says:

    I screwed the pooch. Couldn’t help myself, The twitter comments posted above were to much, so I went and had a looksee. Oh. My. God. And then my fingers began typing a little note to them apparently attempting to add some context to their safe, no guns ever needed world. Sorry guys.

  65. avatarGuy From V says:

    Well…since it was a Rossi it at least couldn’t have had one in the pipe. Not that any of them would know what that means. Imagine explaining that one…then delivering a coup-de-gras of “BUT…it has 6 pipes!” Or 5…forgot what model it was.

  66. avatarJeff says:

    MDA’s mentality is eerily similar to that of 1920s prohibitionists – i.e. they speak of “responsible” gun owners, but when it comes down to business, they accuse all of us of being gun bullies and irresponsible. Sort of like how the prohibitionists would immediately label anyone sipping a single drop of alcohol as a drunkard and immoral sinner. Additionally, these attacks are aimed primarily at men. The zeal, accusations, and name-calling are exactly the same.

  67. avatarPatriot says:

    In reply to @sithschnauzer and their statement “The police have a responsibility to protect the public.” this is a false sense of security that you have there. Years ago the high courts ruled that the police have NO responsibility to defend the public and it is up to us to defend ourselves!

  68. avatarRockOnHellChild says:

    So, the lady that outright lies all the time is calling the guy that lied by omission once a “Liar”?

    Sounds like my first marriage.

    Also, that “secretly armed” thing is too funny…

    You know, there’s a name for that, it’s called “Concealed Handgun” as in “State of Texas, Concealed Handgun License.”

  69. avatarH.R. says:

    They need to grow up.
    At any point in Ms. Watts’ day, an armed citizen could hold a door open for her or share an elevator with her. She could be interacting with armed people every day and not even know it.

    There’s no need to panic.

  70. avatarMina says:

    Finally got the money shot! See my Twitter post.
    https://twitter.com/minasmith64/status/443127720109551616/photo/1

    I love it.

  71. avatarDallassoxfan says:

    Wasn’t that panel at the convention center which has 30.06 signs at each door?

    • avatarRich Grise says:

      What, exactly, is a “30-06 sign?” I’ve googled it, and there are lots of news items and opinion pieces, but I haven’t yet found anything of the form: “A 30-06 sign is ….”

    • avatarRockOnHellChild says:

      How do you prove he was actually carrying?

    • avatarJR says:

      I don’t know the law in Texas, but here in NC, the sign has to be placed by the property owner at the entrance to the property. This looks like a room inside a larger building. I kind of doubt a room that’s not even formally leased within a property would even qualify.

      But either way, are you trying to suggest Alan was violating a law? Because, well, the false accusations of him committing a felony are already on record (ie, accusing him of stalking). I’m sure our resident lawyers would love to add this kind of false accusation to the list of defamation style tactics being tried.

      If that’s not what you are trying to say, my apologies. But it reads that way, so if that was not your intent, you may consider clarifying.

      If you are saying that, do you (a) have proof the sign was properly posted, (b) that he WAS in fact carrying and (c) prepared to file a police report documenting our accusation?

  72. avatarNagurski says:

    I am a huge Bears fan so going by Shannon Watts logic, if I happened to see Aaron Rodgers and get a picture taken with him, I am a stalker. Hell, I was in a picture with double barreled Joe Biden once.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      I was in Obama’s senate offices a few times.. . . . . and I was on tv holding a beer once with Jerry Brown when he ran for POTUS . . . . do I win a stalking prize?

  73. avatarMediocrates says:

    bwahahaha it’s almost embarrassing to call these “people” human.

  74. avatarH.R. says:

    MDA would look a lot more classy if they had used this as an opportunity to welcome differing opinions and to acknowledge that they don’t have a problem with responsible gun owners.

    Instead, true colors.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      or if she said she would love to meet her #1 fan Dirk Diggler !!!

    • avatarMina says:

      “acknowledge that they don’t have a problem with responsible gun owners.” – Exactly! I debated I think 3-4 different supporters today … all of them took at least 4-5 responses before they would even admit I was a human being.

      The problem with Liberals is not just that they think they are better than us, it’s that they want to de-humanize us so that they can demonize us. Even after cutting one of them out of the herd and forcing them to deal with you one and one, well you can see you might get a little glimmer but then suddenly … wham! they remember themselves and default back to modus operandi.

      That was why this exchange was so interesting:
      https://twitter.com/minasmith64/status/443127720109551616/photo/1

      The other three folks I talked to today eventually dropped off debating once they realized I wasn’t going to let them make me the bad person and they had to admit I was a person just like them. AT THAT POINT and not a moment before, they all three made a statement to effect that “I don’t have a problem with responsible gun owners” – even though everything that led up to making that statement re-inforced the opposite.

      Unraveling Liberal arguments is tough. They kind of think and talk in circles – and it all comes back to: “you’re nasty”. That’s why you have to learn “How to Debate Liberals” (Ben Shapiro on YouTube) – because, bottom line, they just think differently than we do. And if you want to beat them, you have to learn to think like they do and say things the way they will understand them. Their brains are just wired completely differently than ours.

      • avatarH.R. says:

        During a phone poll today, I was quizzed for about five minutes on my opinion of Congress, the President, and the economy.
        I was also asked “do you consider yourself Very conservative, somewhat conservative, moderate, somewhat liberal, or very liberal.”

        I immediately chose somewhat liberal and I meant it.

        • avatarMina says:

          Not at all sure what your point is in posting that as a response to mine. But here’s the deal: If you’re a Liberal, you’re my enemy. I don’t care what your stance is on guns. If you want to engage me great, I’ll be happy to debate you and I will make sure we keep it fair and square.

          Other than that, in my experience Liberals are the rabbits of a species meant to be wolves. As such, I despise them.

          If your point was to draw out my opinion, there it is slapped right onto the tabletop. No need to be coy about it. The question is: What are you going to do about it?

        • avatarH.R. says:

          Your “enemy” huh?

          Lighten up, Francis.

          If you base your defense of the right to keep and bear arms on the success of one political faction, what are you going to do when that faction loses?
          Do you think it might be better to have strong defenders of the right to keep and bear arms scattered all throughout the political spectrum?
          I’m inclined to think it’s a better idea for POTG to unite in the defense of our right to keep and bear arms, regardless of what political points of view we may differ on.

          But I guess when everyone who doesn’t always agree with you is your enemy, maybe things look a little different.

  75. avatarDoc 03911 says:

    After reading the CSGV page and The MDA page, I’m joining the NRA.

    Any other pro org need a few bucks? I have a tax return buring a hole in my pocket..

  76. avatarrlc2 says:

    Yes, hat tip once again to Mina above, on “how to debate liberals” –
    (you can get that e-book by Ben Shapiro at truthrevolt.org).

    Watch this clip on a panel discussion, at part 2 video at 4:18 where Shapiro summarizes it in 5 words- http://www.truthrevolt.org/video/jew-hatred-and-art-political-warfare-

    This is how we 2A supporters, and other conservatives and independent thinkers HAVE to conduct ourselves when dealing with the MDAs, OFAs, Kos Kids, and other nitwits/bullies/liars/haters/koolaid drinkers of the left:

    “Moral Narrative Infused With Passion”.

    He is speaking to another issue, anti-semitism or more properly, jew-hatred, as it emerges in the BDS movement against Isreal,

    but it is ALSO completely instructive, in that gun-control and the moral superiority of their position is ALSO completely invested in the belief system, of the typical prog-tard left.

    And the TWITTER feed of CSVG, and the creepy guy threatening Mina, reminds me of the reaction of Danielle Dimacali, the UCLA student voter, who lost the vote- on YouTube (which seems to be rapidly being erased from the innertubes)
    as it completely illustrates how the people on the Twitter feed, to whom Ms Watts is proselytizing, acts and feels, in their own parallel universe. We Cant Engage Them With Facts, When They Live in their Own Emotional Fantasy World.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/jamie-glazov/the-meltdown-of-danielle-dimacali/

    PS: I also like Shapiro’s take on how he beat Piers Morgan so thoroughly-
    citing the Mike Tyson quote- on how to open up the conversation with an ambush journalist:

    “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose.”

    We are not interested in holding our ground, we are interested in holding them by the nose and kick them in the ass.

    Truly, Breitbart Lives!

    • avatarH.R. says:

      Lunacy generally can not stand up the light of fact and logic.

      That’s why CSGV’s reaction was a mistake. Mr. Brooks wasn’t doing anything illegal, he clearly had no intention of harming anyone, and he was even treating people on the other side of a very nasty polarized debate like human beings. All while carrying a concealed firearm.

      And his civilized behavior was met with hysteria from the other side.

      Very enlightening, isn’t it?

    • avatarMina says:

      “We are not interested in holding our ground, we are interested in holding them by the nose and kick them in the ass.” – Great quote!! You will love this page as well:

      http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/strategy.html

  77. avatarDaily Beatings says:

    It’s completely Shannon’s fault for not vetting beforehand who she is taking a picture with. She got comfortable in her echo chamber and let her guard down. She screwed up and she damn well knows it. This is just damage control by misdirection. Bloomberg has got to be pissed about the money he spent on an amateur.

  78. avatarDaily Beatings says:

    CSGV is coordinating the message with Shannon that a “big bad meany” forced his way into their inner sanctum. Once again damage control by giving the illusion that a separate group is quantifying Shannon’s description of events.

    It’s a nice show put on for all of the low level supporters who blindly follow without the slightest idea of what actually happened. You would think that someone with twenty plus years in public relations would have been a little bit more professional. But then again that experience was mostly in the private sector, which is very different than running a non-profit with an extremely devoted opposition.

    • avatarH.R. says:

      I’m no PR guy, but it seems they had a couple options of how to handle this a little better.

      1. Say and do nothing. Play dumb. “Alan who? I don’t know any Alan. I pose for so many pictures with so many supporters. Alan who?”

      - TTAG has its laugh and by this time tomorrow, no one has anything else to say about it.

      2. Say something to the effect of “though we differ with Mr. Brooks and the organization he works for on many issues, we were happy to have him as our guest. MDA respects opposing views.”

      - They take the high road and show just a little class. Who doesn’t respect someone that disagrees with you but still acts that civil? Then TTAG has its laugh and by this time tomorrow, no one has anything else to say about it.

      3. They do exactly what they’re doing.

      - Their members get to act all self-righteous for a week, TTAG continues to have something to talk about for another 300 posts, Mr. Brooks is catapulted to internet stardom, MDA looks like a bunch of children throwing a hissyfit, TTAG revisits the hissyfit every two weeks, and a lawsuit could possibly ensue regarding the “lie” that wasn’t spoken.

      As I said, I’m no PR genius, but I think they’re trying to overplay this hand.

      • avatarJR says:

        There are several other options as well.

        (4) She could have joined in the fun…this is a variant of your (2) “Taking the High Road” but even takes the sting out of anything our side says.

        (5) Here’s the kicker: she claims she supports the 2A and common sense gun ownership.

        Here was her opportunity to solidify that position. I think it’s a lie; I think she is a bona fide disarmament advocate. But here was her opportunity to speak to that and make it harder for people like me to gain traction on that issue.

        “Yes, I had my picture taken with Mr. Brooks. I found him to be a pleasant person, and learning afterward that he was carrying a gun is a non-issue for me. I believe he and I are on the same side of the fight – that we both want less violence in our society.”

        In other words…not even going the “we disagree but can still be civil” route, because she’s all the time trying to say she does NOT disagree with RKBA. If she’s really trying to sell that idea…that they ONLY want to achieve safety (and convince people that’s all they are really after), she dropped the ball big time here.

        Man, the more I think it about this, more “fail” their response has written all over it. It just reeks in so many ways.

        I bet that there are MDA members (‘regular folks,’ not activists) out there today asking themselves “What was this all about? I don’t want to be associated with this.”

      • avatarDaily Beatings says:

        Shannon and company’s intent is to distance themselves from the event while at the same time throwing raw meat to their base. The resulting hissy fit is a measured response to deflect attention from the fact that Shannon screwed up big time. I can guarantee she is more angry at herself than with Alan or TTAG.

        Remember it’s not about the polite or correct thing to say. They have to stick to the script otherwise cracks will develop in the messaging, which could lead to the opposition being viewed as caring human beings. If you get the chance read “The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements” by Eric Hoffer. It’s a fascinating book about the mindset of this fanatical behavior.

        • avatarH.R. says:

          The fanaticism you speak of… I have seen that so many times.

          I’m no conservative. My views are actually pretty “liberal” on a lot of things, and some of my friends have been pretty liberal over the years. And I’ve seen that thing where some of them are just unable to think for themselves. If a politician in their party says it, it must be true. The dogma must be respected at all costs, the koolaid must be gulped down with enthusiasm, and any independent thinking will result in expulsion from the group.
          I’ll look that title up when I get a chance – should be an enlightening read.

          And, though we’re all having a fine time getting a little laugh over this whole scenario, I have to be the guy who points out that in the grand scheme of things, this really only matters to the readers of TTAG and those who support MDA. The rest of the world likely doesn’t know and wouldn’t care one way or the other if we posted the pic of Mr. Brooks posing with Shannon Watts on a hundred billboards.

  79. avatarpeirsonb says:

    I know the Twitter war on this post is officially over, but I had to pop back in here to say it….right at the moment I hate TTAG. Up until yesterday I was only on Twitter to (maybe) keep up on the snakes at MDA and MAIG. In the last 24 hours I’ve been locked in at least a dozen different Twitter wars with anti-gun nuts. Damn you for making me (at least a little) active for a cause I believe in.

    • avatarRobert Farago says:

      Thanks for that.

    • avatarMina says:

      I know it seems like a waste of time, but it needs to be done. Bonus is: It’s good practice if your local Govt bodies decide to try to limit your rights. You’ll know what to say and how to say it. How to fight them! :-)

  80. avatarAsmodeus says:

    One of the funniest things to come out of this so far has been CSGV’s whine piece using the Hypo meme getting 472 likes and 473 shares on Facebook… with about 30% of the likes and shares being people supporting the meme.

    Ladd should write a book titled “How to Utterly Fail as a Communications Director”.

  81. avatarteebonicus says:

    If you didn’t grab her fine, skinny little hiney while you had the opportunity, you’re a wuss.

    /sarc

    GUFFAW!!!

  82. avatarJim says:

    I would want to ask Shannon if she really was being stalked, wouldn’t she feel more comfortable carrying a gun she was trained to defend herself with?

  83. avatarBrian says:

    it’s quite sad that they have to resort to such a JUVENILE manner claiming that Alan was stalking her. It’s not his fault that she (nor her group apparently) did any due diligence to know and identify opposition to their cause (not like they coulda done anything anyway since it was a PUBLIC forum there where anyone could attend the event. and especially to be a blogger/article contributor to the website, so naturally going to an oppositions event to get info on what their current or future plans are is NO surprise. These sad individuals will do anything they can to save face in front of their supporters.

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