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After a year and a half of tinkering with an old Nagant revolver that I had, I finally got around to putting it back together yesterday. I posted a picture of it (above) on Reddit last night and it was surprisingly popular. Several people asked for a range report, so here we go. This particular revolver was made at the Izhmash factory in 1943 and then refurbished after WWII. After I bought it, the nice folks at Yankee Hill Machine, added a Q.D. flash hider to the barrel and I had a gunsmith mount a 2″ rail to the top strap. I stripped off the old, worn-out bluing and parkerized it (well, it was a good first attempt anyway). A cheap NC Star red dot sight and some new grips (bakelite sucks) rounded out the rebuild . . .

For this test I swapped out the normal 7.62x38r cylinder for the easier-to-find .32 ACP cylinder. Unfortunately I didn’t realize until today that the extractor rod hits the ring on the flash hider and now you have to remove the barrel completely to swap cylinders.

 

The upside to .32 ACP is that there is essentially no recoil and it was surprisingly quiet even without a suppressor. The only problem I had was the ridiculously heavy trigger and the hammer getting stuck a few times. So it needs some work on the internals and if anyone has any suggestions on how to reduce the trigger pull please let me know. As a bonus, here’s a picture of it wearing a YHM titanium suppressor.

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Some of you might ask why anyone would do this to a perfectly good revolver. The answer is, “why not?” Half the fun of shooting is trying new and outrageous things (within the boundaries of safety of course). It’s why Kirsten Weiss shoots while hanging upside down from a tree and why I make ridiculous modifications to a perfectly good service revolver.

57 Responses to Range Report: Heavily Modified Nagant 1895 Revolver

  1. “… if anyone has any suggestions on how to reduce the trigger pull please let me know.”

    Trade it for a S&W Triple Lock 38/44?

    On the ejection issue, you might try using .32H&R Mag brass for your next set of reloads, if they will work in your Nagant cylinder.

  2. i picked one of those up new old stock from ’34, i so wish i could put a can on it stupid tax and wait time

    • Absolutely! I’ve had my eye out for an 1895 Nagant for sale locally since getting my can. Would love to thread it and shoot one of the only revolvers on earth that can be effectively suppressed!

  3. Curious…what’s the real point of a flash hider on a revolver? Don’t you still get a TON of flash from between the cylinder and forcing cone?

    • When Nagants are fired the cylinder moves up to close the gap in between it and the barrel so there’s no flash there. Nagants are weird.

    • The nagant forces the cylinder forward so that it is sealed at the breech end of the barrel when firing. Hence why it can be suppressed where all other revolvers cannot.

    • That particular flash hider is also a suppressor quick disconnect mount, and regarding the gases escaping the forcing cone gap the Nagant revolver cylinder actually pushes forward against the forcing cone when cocked and the goofy looking cartridges help form a gas seal. This is why there are so many references to the Nagant as the only revolver suitable for fitting a silencer. With a 32 cylinder on it, I’m not sure if that is still the case.

    • Not with a Nagant revolver, it’s got a nifty way of sealing the cylinder to the barrel by pushing the cylinder forward, and the cartridges are loaded so that the bullet sits down inside the case to help with the sealing effect. There’s a pretty cool review of the revolver here on TTAG I recommend reading, it explains how it works far better than I ever could.

  4. I had a chance to pick up one of these about a year ago for something around 75 bucks.

    I kinda think I should’ve bought it. It would’ve been a fun range toy.

    • Yup, I wish I had picked one up back when they were that cheap, too.

      Lesson learned. Buy all the cheap milsurp you can, ’cause it’s gonna run out/get popular.

  5. Good luck fixing the trigger pull…..let us know when you do. I figured that would have been job one!

  6. That is a serious steampunk/dieselpunk work of art you have there.

    “So it needs some work on the internals and if anyone has any suggestions on how to reduce the trigger pull please let me know.”

    The nagant revolver uses the trigger pull to move the entire cylinder forward to press right up against the barrel. As such, trigger pull is going to be very heavy no matter what you do. There are a few things you can do to make things better:

    1. Polish/Hone contact surfaces. This is the only part where you can mess things up. If you take off too much metal you could mess up the gun – but it is like 90 bucks anyway right?

    2. Apply trigger grease to the trigger and lubricate contact surfaces w/ gun oil.

    3. Break the springs in by firing the thing w/ dummy rounds in it. Do that a couple thousand times. Also, you can tie the trigger back to the handle /guard (when not in use) to wear the springs faster.

    That should make your pull weight go from like 18 lbs. to 16 lbs 🙂

  7. With all due respect to Alan, this is proof that you can, in fact, polish a turd. It’s actually kind of cool.

  8. So where is the range report?

    Why the blather about .32 ACP? It would be much preferable to hear how this gun shoots the cartridges it was designed for.

    Switching cylinders?

    WTF?

    • Some prefer to shoot easy to find ammo. Here in Norway .32 is a common competition cartridge which means it is easy to find. 7.62 Nagant I would have to import or handload.

      I don’t have a Nagant yet but I would like one of the 1910 swingout models, maybe find some blueprints and make one from scratch? With some modifications of course 8 or 10 shot cylinder and integrally suppressed.

  9. I hate to ask this, but where is the rest of the range report? What loads did you end up shooting and what was the spread? Did you get improved accuracy after all of the mods? What was the total cost of the gun + build?

    That might all be in the video but I can’t currently watch that while I am on deployment on a gov’t computer. It is either blocked or the bandwidth is too low. So if it is there nevermind, I’ll check it out in a few months from my home computer. Interesting seeing it though.

  10. The beauty of Russian milsurp. They nearly all went thru an arsenal refurb before being stored. I bought what was essentially a new SKS for 99 bucks. Have picked up mosins for as little as 50 bucks(those days are over) and ignored tables full of maks at 99 bucks.

    Cheapest I remember nagant revolvers was 59 bucks. Sigh. Had I the brains god gave a turnip I would have a storage unit mixed full of them.

    • Don’t beat yourself up over it, hindsight is always 20/20 or like my teacher said: “It isn’t easy to predict anything, especially the future”. You also have to adjust for inflation, I know I saw an ad for Thompsons (when they were new in 1925) saying they were only 225 dollars or something. Ran that through the calculator and in was the equivalent of 3000 dollars today.

    • I did buy one back in the $50 days.All kitted out at that price to boot. Aside from the Lou Ferrigno trigger pull it’s not a bad little shooter (for $50). A fact the Romanov’s learned the hard way.

  11. The stoning (de-burring) and grease on the contact does reduce the pull, somewhat.

    But Why? The thing about the Nagant is that that once you can keep it on target through that trigger pull, you can keep any DA pistol on target. You will also be able to lift a beer keg with that finger.

    If you do not use the gas seal rounds, there is no point in putting a can on it.

    The Soviet version with a can removed the extractor completely. The can seated all the way back and kept the cylinder bushing/pin in.

    • You do know that Nagant revolvers are capable of some really good accuracy? Since they don’t mangle the bullet like many conventional revolvers and their barrels are fixed unlike many semi autos.

      Get one of the target versions and you will see what I mean. The weight of the trigger isn’t the problem, you just have to make it smooth and know how to shoot.

  12. the uglier the gun, the better. something like this should be able to scare the bears away without firing a shot

  13. Ha!
    I like this. Just might have to tinker with the old Webley out in the shop. That looks really funky.

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