Question of the Day: Do Gun Couples Have Less Sex?

 

The New York Times Sunday Magazine ran an article last week entitled Does a More Equal Marriage Mean Less Sex? Spoiler alert! Yes. Yes it does. Or not. You don’t have to have Nick Leghorn’s analytical skillz to realize that Lori Gottleib’s conclusion is based on extremely dodgy analysis of incomplete data – not to mention anecdotes that challenge a Cosmo mag “exposé” for their lack of authenticity. All you have to do is read this bit: “Correlations don’t establish causation, and especially when it comes to sex, there’s always a risk of reporting bias and selective sampling, not to mention the mood of a subject at the time of the survey.” So pseudo-scientific politically correct titillating B.S. then. Still, what if it is true? I can’t think of a more “equal” couple than one where both members are armed. The question must be asked: do you/have you had more frequent sex with partners who are into guns or ones that weren’t?

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  1. avatar Evan B says:

    I Lol’d at the guy holding a BB pistol.

    That’s pretty badass.

    1. avatar Rick says:

      Evan,

      I totally missed that. I used to have one like that many, many years ago. Thanks for the flashback!

      1. avatar Jesse says:

        As did I. It’s nice to know that Brad Pitt and I share a firearms connection. I’m just glad we don’t have the same taste in women. I wouldn’t trade my wife for a dozen home-wrecking Angelina’s.

    2. avatar Cliff H says:

      My very first pistol! A Christmas present from Santa, no less. I never did get that Red Ryder rifle I wanted, though.

  2. avatar NLU78grad says:

    Do BB guns count??? That’s what dude has in this image…I’d guess her disgusted look is because he’s a poser…

    1. avatar WRH says:

      Try clicking on the pic… It links to him being quoted as very pro-gun. So before you hate on him for what was probably a prop the camera guy had, consider his words.

  3. avatar MW says:

    There weren’t any that weren’t into guns…

    1. avatar James R says:

      I’ve never had any that WERE into guns. Lets swap some old phone numbers. You know, for science!

  4. avatar tdiinva says:

    I don’t think Michael and Fi are having issues.

    1. avatar Jus Bill says:

      Don’t you mean “issue?”

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        No, Issuues is the plural of issue. There can be more than one.

  5. avatar peirsonb says:

    Because my wife is into guns I make it a point to not have sex at all with other partners. YMMV.

    1. avatar tdiinva says:

      + a large number

    2. avatar Gunracer1958 says:

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      THIS………….. ∞ x ∞

    3. avatar jwm says:

      I’m a rather large target that gave his wife, amongst other weapons, a shotgun. My son has stated that I’d better behave, no way could she miss my big ass with a shotgun. I think I’ll take his advice.

      1. avatar peirsonb says:

        A guy I used to work with used to say that he taught his wife to load their single shot twelve with a .22 LR. He figured if she decided to shoot him in his sleep he’d feel the .22 bounce off his head and wake him up….

  6. avatar Taylor Tx says:

    “________ ‘s conclusion is based on extremely dodgy analysis of incomplete data – not to mention anecdotes that challenge a Cosmo mag “exposé” for their lack of authenticity.”

    Summarization of all NYT articles written.

    1. avatar peirsonb says:

      From the few articles from Gottleib that I’ve read, “dodgy analysis” is pretty much par for the course.

  7. avatar Oddux says:

    I’ve dated pro-gun and anti-gun girls. Though the anti-gunners result in shorter relationships by far, I can say there is no difference in sexual activity in either group. That is until the inevitable disagreements begin with the few girls that didn’t change their minds after they actually tried shooting.

  8. avatar A-Rod says:

    That picture… Is that Brad and Angelina?

      1. avatar General Zod says:

        Angelina must be quite impressed with that BB gun. It shoots steel darts too, you know. Manly!!! I got one just like it when I was 10…

        1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

          While I’m sure they aren’t great examples of 2A supporters, both have been quoted to say they own firearms and they are quite willing to use them to defend themselves.

        2. avatar ropingdown says:

          I wish I’d save the photo to disk, but a photo appeared in the papers a few years back with two of her children escorting her on a grocery run. The kids both had semi-realistic toy AR’s in camo. Good traditional parents.

      2. avatar Chris in CT says:

        Angelina, while still in the midst of having her “BillyBob” ink eradicated from her shoulder. Or, as they say in these parts, “whickid smaht!”

      1. avatar KevinMA says:

        Brad also spent $400K installing a private gun range for Angelina at their home in France. Yes France, as in gun hating Europe. I’d say both of their credentials of being on our side check out: http://www.guns.com/2012/09/07/brad-pitt-gives-angelina-jolie-gun-range-wedding-present-south-france-gun-laws-minerval/

      2. avatar NYC2AZ says:

        @Blue: I have read those quotes before. I’m not saying he doesn’t support owning guns. I’m not saying that they believe in bans. I only put the caveat in my above statement because their statements are brief and specifically about keeping firearms in their home. I really don’t know what they think about the hoi pollloi having shall issue ccw’s and the like. They are still far better than many of their various co-stars for sure. I am very suspect of most Hollywierd types though.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Pitt is a huge Obama ass-kisser. He may like his guns, but he loves him some POTUS even more.

      1. avatar Jus Bill says:

        Wanna bet HRH will allow Brad to keep his guns?

        1. avatar peirsonb says:

          Yes. He can afford to get around any newly minted laws.

  9. avatar Josh in TX says:

    C’mon, at least make it interesting! How about “are people who are into guns more or less likely to have unprotected sex?” And cue the inevitable joke from Austin Powers.

    1. avatar Austin Powers says:

      Do you like my blue steel barrel? Yeah, BABY!

      1. avatar Josh in TX says:

        Hats off to you Mr Powers, I did not see that coming.

  10. avatar Jeff the Griz says:

    Well I have only been with one woman, so I can’t compare. But I can say when I buy new guns there is sometimes a decrease in said activity.

    1. avatar pyratemime says:

      Try buying the new guns for her and see what happens. Best case she is appreciative and shows you that appreciation in some wonderful way. Worst case you still have another gun.

      1. avatar Jeff the Griz says:

        I bought her a rifle for her birthday, she shot a couple deer with it but complains to this day. I’m allowed to buy her guns on unbirthdays.

  11. avatar Paul W says:

    dafuq?
    I’ve been married for 9 years now so it’s hard to say; libido ebbs and flows and all that.

  12. avatar Randy Drescher says:

    The ladies I’ve had …?…target practice with, weren’t into guns & I prefer it that way. A purse gun would be fine though for protection. Yes, my knuckles are dragging here, let the boo’s begin, Randy

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      I’ve heard shagging called many things, but never target practice!

      /sarc off

  13. avatar Jus Bill says:

    I married one that was in 1967. Still together. Next question.

  14. avatar Jake says:

    The most i’ve ever had in my life was with a seriously deranged anti-gun nutbar. My current is pretty much on the fence and it’s all a little blah. Anti-gunners are normally a little disturbed, and disturbed people tend to be better in bed.

    1. avatar pyratemime says:

      My previous crazy was of the right wing sort, I still agree with your general thesis that the crazy ones bring something interesting to such activities…

      1. avatar iksnilol says:

        I hope it isn’t too personal but could you come up with some examples? I always hear the “crazy people are good in bed” but how?

        1. avatar Jake says:

          frequency was a big part of it. as was location. she was a ‘anytime, anyway, anywhere’ kinda gal. the mental ones also tend to be a lot more vocal, both about what they want and that you’re… eh… giving them what they want. much more open about adventurous things as well.

          full disclosure, i’m only 24 and she was only 21 at the time, and you know how crazy us young folks are 🙂

        2. avatar Shawn says:

          The crazier they are the better (except fully blown nuts)…college library, elevator, anything goes…etc.

        3. avatar Jeff says:

          Well I’ll throw in my .02.. Around ’05 I dated a pretty liberal chick who, as I learned, was abused by various men in her youth – although her father wasn’t one of the abusers, he was a no-show. Then she went on to enlist in the army and during that time “discovered” that she was bisexual, before she sustained a major injury in AIT and was discharged.

          Let’s just say daddy issues seem to make women either a) completely disinterested in sex with men, or b) interested in any and all kinds of sex with men, including multiple men and women. She was willing to do almost anything I had ever thought about sex-wise (I was young and all I knew was from watching porn, so it wasn’t that much), but the line was drawn for me when she proposed threesomes and foursomes. Not something I was ever interested in, even if some of her lady-friends were pretty hot. I’m not a prude but I prefer monogamous sex. Relationship ended soon afterwards, part of the reason being that I wasn’t “experimental enough.” Sex was like THE most important thing to her, before anything else. She was more obsessed with it than any guy I’ve ever known.

          The real crazy comes in after that.. She wanted to become a sex counselor, but never did anything about persuing her education, or doing any long-term planning at all. Her reason? She was convinced that the world was going to end in 2012, so there wasn’t any point to planning for her future. She was just going to party until the end of the world. I kept in touch with her as friends, and when the end of the world didn’t happen last year, her FB page went awfully quiet about it.

          Also her favorite movie maker was John Waters.. Should’ve known right then and there.

        4. avatar jwm says:

          Jeff, my first wife was the same. Abused and she went completely buck wild. Nothing was too wild or risky for her. Unfortunately she was just plain nuts the rest of the time.

          And lolinski, aren’t you a little young to be asking those questions?

        5. avatar lolinski says:

          Maybe I am trying to find out so I don’t screw up too much and wind up getting a brick with a love note thrown trough the window (happened to a friend). Just curious, would prefer not to find out all the stuff the hard way.

          But you are probably right.

        6. avatar jwm says:

          lolinski, not being critical of you. Just bear in mind that for every truth you’ll hear on a website populated mostly by guys you’ll hear 9 parts bullshit. There’s more trustworthy places to get life advice than the web.

        7. avatar Seabass says:

          My experience was the opposite (mirror?) of Jeff’s. My abused, liberal, vegan, PETA supporting, Bush hating (she’s still blaming him for stuff), Obama loving ex was completely uninterested in sex beyond the occasional makeout session.

          I married the one that’s into guns. After a few years of dating, she revealed she’s bi, thinking I would be upset. Where Jeff expressed a disinterest in threesomes and foursomes, we’ve embraced the idea and have really enjoyed ourselves in that regard. It’s definitely not for everyone though. At any given time, my open browser tabs tend to be TTAG and adult friend finder.

        8. avatar Jus Bill says:

          Quite so, jwm, quite so.

        9. avatar lolinski says:

          The “1 part truth, 9 parts bullshit” I am used to in my normal life so I know about that (should become a lawyer when I think about it).

  15. avatar P. Nissman says:

    –> Insert obligatory caliber joke here <–

    1. avatar Andy says:

      Who needs length when you have the girth of a can of corn??

  16. avatar Totenglocke says:

    The article was referring to the fact that men who take on women’s traditional roles kill their partners sex drive. Any man should be well aware that acting like a woman won’t get you laid.

    Sure, your wife might want you to do more chores, but it makes her less sexually attracted to you.

    1. avatar Michael B. says:

      This.

      If you’re not having regular sex you’re either doing something wrong or there’s something wrong with you.

      Best remedy is to be in shape and stop acting like a woman.

      1. avatar lolinski says:

        Except women of course. They should act like women, right?

        1. avatar Michael B. says:

          Of course, but there are no women on the internet so I didn’t feel the need to clarify.

      2. avatar Ralph says:

        If you’re not having regular sex

        I prefer irregular sex. Regular sex is boring.

        1. avatar peirsonb says:

          But I am quickly reaching a point in my life where irregular is too damn much work…

    2. avatar peirsonb says:

      “your wife might want you to do more chores, but it makes her less sexually attracted to you.”

      “Suburban” chores I agree with. Tying on your apron, donning you gloves and scrubbing the toilet would make any woman less attracted to you.

      But interesting things have been known to happen in the aftermath of “manly” chores….felling, splitting, stacking an acre of standing timber in a day, walking in covered in mud smelling of sawdust.

      Such things are good, very good for the love life. ‘Course, my wife has always been an outdoor girl….

  17. avatar Shawn says:

    Insanely crazy sex before kids. Afters kids…hahaha.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      I’ve found that to be untrue. What surprised me is the level of good sex we continue to have even though we’re grandparents. Not as frequent as in our youth, but good quality.

      1. avatar LongBeach says:

        Not a grandparent, but i’m with you in that it continues to be awesome, if less frequent than before.

      2. avatar ropingdown says:

        “I’m not as good as I once was, but I’m as good once as I ever was.”

      3. avatar Ralph says:

        Grandparents can have great sex. Usually not with each other, but it’s still great.

  18. avatar launchpadmech says:

    What the Hell kinda holding pattern is that?

  19. avatar WV Cycling says:

    The Girl™ fires her pistol for practice about half as often as she “fires mine”. I’m very satisfied with out intimate life, and her range accuracy with the LCR .38sp, PM-9, and 22/45. Med school gets in the way of things more than anything else.

  20. avatar Joel says:

    I don’t think frequency of sex is the issue. I’d be more concerned about accidental discharges. 🙂

  21. avatar dwb says:

    you either have a lot of sex and not much time to write about it, or

  22. avatar NJDevil says:

    What a dumb conclusion; of course you are more interested in and attracted to someone who shares the same hobbies and interests as you do. That’s why you stay in a relationship with someone.

  23. avatar Cameron S. says:

    My girlfriend carries infrequently, is very good with most guns, and has become quite good at locating and safely removing my holster without looking at it.

    She’s an only child, so if for no other reason, I should lock her down for her father’s 50+ guns…

  24. avatar Don says:

    I barely have time to reload.

  25. avatar ensitue says:

    Liberal women are far easier to Boink so my batting average is over 100-1

  26. avatar Ralph says:

    The stooooopidist thing I ever did was give my crazy ex-gf her own pistol. Diddling crazy is dumb, but arming it is heroically dumb.

    1. avatar lolinski says:

      You survived so far so that is a good sign I guess?

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        We live 1200 miles apart, so that may have something to do with it. And I’m tooled up to the eyeballs, which may also be helpful.

    2. avatar Avid Reader says:

      I gave my now former wife a .22 semi pistol for Christmas many years ago. She was surprised. She wasn’t really into guns, but wasn’t opposed to them. She turned out to be a natural pistol shot.

      The pistol was lost in a burglary some years later, a few years before we split. So, unless she’s tooled up again-which I doubt-I think I’m probably OK there.

      I hope. . .

  27. avatar crashbbear says:

    All the one’s I’ve dated were into guns. All the rest… well… I never found out. What’s your stance on the 2ND amendment? Also, what’s your last name? Never mind, I’ll just call you Katie-Pro, much better than Molly-No Guns.

  28. avatar I_Like_Pie says:

    I have noticed that anti-gunners do anal more often than pro gunners…Lots and lots more anal!

  29. avatar pat says:

    I’ll let you know when my record dry spell ends.

  30. avatar William Burke says:

    Apparently I’m in a “more equal marriage”; I didn’t even know I was married.

  31. avatar Daniel Silverman says:

    My wife is tolerant.. But then again twice a day every day keeps your hair shiny!
    I don’t really have much perspective on how others live..

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      That’s a lot of ammo, Daniel.

  32. avatar Guner from Oregon says:

    I never knew what happiness was until I got married,
    then it was too late!

    1. avatar jwm says:

      A man isn’t compleat until he’s married. Then he’s finished.

      Marriege is a fine institution, if you don’t mind being institutionalised.

  33. avatar Matt in Maine says:

    Lemme just say that my wife and I have been together for nearly 17 years. I finally swayed her from her anti-gun ways about a year ago and there has been a significant uptick. YMMV.

  34. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    After 30 years of marriage, we have hallway sex a couple times a day.
    We pass in the hallway, she says something unintelligible, so I reply “blow me”, she then retorts, “up yours”.
    So, yeah. It’s pretty much oral sex, all the time now.

    1. avatar Guner from Oregon says:

      LOL! Sounds like you guy’s have really got a system.

  35. avatar Tarrou says:

    Saw a Playboy sex survey years back said the two demographics with the best sex lives were jazz fans (the music, not the shitty NBA team) and gun owners.

    More to the point of the author, if you read the Times article, you saw it was about traditional gender roles, specifically in housework. I’d assume that a couple who both carry would be very “equal”, but also more likely to be more traditional in their household roles. Ergo, more sex.

  36. avatar RB2001 says:

    I have noticed a decrease in sex since I started CC. Taking off my holster, belt, and gun during our interlude and see if that increases the frequency.

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