By ST

In the movies, the female companion of the brave action hero never takes a moment to grill the hero about why he packs a pistol all the time. In real life, however, not everyone is so progressive of thought. As a 27-year-old young man with a CCW permit, vetting dates has become a secondary talent. Here are a few tips for finding firearm-friendly females . . .

1) Pay attention to the woman’s background. I hate to use the word “stereotyping”, but if your lady friend is a fan of Obama and pictures her dream job as being a diplomat at the UN, it’s probably not the wisest approach to take her for a first date to the gun range. But be careful not to fall into the trap of associating geography with anti-gun sentiment. I dated a girl from New York City who didn’t mind me owning guns, and I’ve met more then a few from red state America who support The House of Feinstein.

2) Can the fanboy gun talk. If youre with Kirsten Joy Weiss’ sister, by all means compare range notes. The average girl, though, doesn’t have the faintest idea about the differences between a GLOCK Gen 3 and a Gen 4. And couldnt care less. Be prepared for some ignorant preconceptions as well. At one time circumstances forced me to load and uncase my S&W M&P9 when leaving the base, and my date said ” nice GLOCK.” The poor girl meant well, but…ouch. I had to eat my pride and smile back, even as I felt the instinctual need to jump down her throat and say “when was GLOCK ever located in Springfield Massachusetts??!!”

3) Be on the lookout for any sign of a turbulent past history, and weigh anchor of you detect signs of problems. I don’t want to say that women should be judged for their past mistakes, but you have to be practical about this. Many ex-boyfriends can be violent and even well-balanced dudes has been known to lose it and resort to irrational activity in the face of rejection. If something “goes down” and it results in a dead body with you holding a smoking gun, every detail of the event will be open for public scrutiny.

Defending your home or person from a random attack by a total stranger is a situation everyone can understand. It’s a lot harder to argue self defense in court when the dead body is that of a former suitor of your current significant other. Ideally, there will be a paper trail demonstrating the individual’s prior instability, but it’s not hard to imagine how bad your case will look if the bad guy shows up out of the blue and you’re forced to defend yourself.

There’s  one more complicating factor – some women lie. This may be just an annoyance when you’re an unarmed man, but having a CCW permit means there’s zero room for impropriety here. Don’t play the game of lovers’ geometry, where you end up a participant in a triangle. There’s a thin line between self defense against a crazed attacker, and a plot to commit the murder of an inconvenient husband. Even if you had no idea of the association, it won’t stop a prosecutor from arguing it at your trial. Better a lonely night at home then a cuckolded boyfriend or husband with a short temper finding his wife in bed with you. After all, you’re not the only man who carries a gun.

Finally, the best advice is to just act normally. Don’t make carrying a gun out to be a life-changing, epic event of a monumental nature. If you’ve done a good job in preselecting the lady to start with, she won’t care that you’re armed, and might even appreciate it as a positive attribute.

108 Responses to The Single Man’s Guide to Dating and Guns

    • My wife tried this. I said I guess we aren’t getting married. She changed her mind. She has put up with my gun collecting for the past few years. Now she wants to see about shooting and getting a gun for her own protection when I am gone for an extended period of time.

      • I told my ex wife that like the Israelis, I dont negotiate with terrorists after she made an ultimatum. I represented myself in the divorce (yeah, yeah, I know what they say) and she only got $5000 and had to pay her lawyer. I recall smoking a Mayorga Natural Churchill and having a shot of Jack Daniels after the hearing when it ended. 🙂

        • Old joke: what’s the difference between a woman and a terrorist?

          It is a bad idea to negotiate with a terrorist but it is physically possible.

        • My Dear Sweet Former (well disguised psycho) spouse made the demand that I split my premarital firearms collection with her, to which I responded: “what gun collection”?

          She: “all of those guns in the safe”.

          Me: “what safe?”

          She: “the big red one.”

          Me: “Bill (my attorney), please ask her attorney what the Hell she’s talking about.”

          My Attorney (to her attorney): “Mr. X, please inform your client that if she can produce a receipt showing that my client purchased a firearm during the term of the marriage, my client will be happy to SAW IT IN HALF, and she may choose which portion she would like”.

          Soon-to-be-exwife: (Sound of head exploding). End of issue.

    • A co-worker told me he was turning his rifle into the police on the upcoming weekend; his wife was insisting on it now that they had a kid. Wasn’t my place to tell him to buck up- but I asked him why he didn’t just sell it to fund his golf equipment habit. He said he just didn’t want the hassle, plus it was old and probably not worth much. I asked him what kind of gun? M1Garand. How much would you want? $150.

      and that’s how I acquired my M1Garand.

  1. Dose she have an NRA sticker on the back of her Ford F-150? WINNER!!!
    Does she drink Whiskey and own a few NFA items? Wife Material!!!

  2. Might we be worrying about this just a tad much?

    I understand that it is a serious matter, as well as a large part of many of our lives, but are we going to pigeonhole every girl we lay eyes on based on this one singular facet?

      • A woman who is afraid of/cannot tolerate firearms is not a real American woman. Remember, men used to move cattle and women used to defend the homestead with a rifle without fear of the tool. Women today can’t even start a proper fire.

        • Now, Erin. Put some kind of qualifier in that statement……”some women, young women, city women, the women I know.” Obviously, some women today can start a proper fire and even outshoot you.

    • Well if you don’t worry about it religiously and it comes up, one of three things occur.

      1. They treat it like a hand grenade and you like a prospective dealer of death. Fear levels vary but outright fear cools ardor very well.

      2. They fan girl you and your manliness for carrying a gun. It’s compounded in uniform and also unattractive after date number 3.

      3. They will treat it like nothing special and wonder why you didn’t mention it before. Best case scenario.

      4. Or respectfully ask that she never see or hear about it/them/any other weapons. Which puts a real damper on days where you score a good deal and can’t explain your good mood but to the effect of “oh that’s nice” if it’s firearms related.

      The first cannot be tolerated long term. You’ll either quit guns or her. The arguments will drive you apart if your indoctrination attempts go badly. The second makes for great short term carnal relationship material. The third makes a great long term partner. The fourth is what a lot of people go through when breaching the subject and a large part of why I find this article relevant. As it is hard to pigeon hole folks but easy to find patterns.

      Some women can be converted. Some are already there. The ones who can’t be bothered to learn or even pretense care about your hobby or lifestyle choices based on context alone or be of any constructive addition to your life due to their attitudes about one of your passions are the main issue.

      It isn’t just left leaning types who do it either.

        • No I did not list that scenario. As anyone who isn’t totally blind and deaf knows how to handle that sort of lady…*chuckles*

      • There are many important facets to a person, and differing interests are fine so long as at least neutrality is present.

        My female counterpart doesn’t design integrated circuits for fun, and I can’t make dresses. We actually talk about both, however. We have things which we do together, and things we each do alone or with others. That’s healthy.

        Were I to be in the market, however, I’d look for at least comfortable with my interest in firearms. I’d also run, not walk, from someone who was:
        obsessed with snaring my soul for her religion;
        a racist;
        insisted that every moment must be shared;
        disdained my blue or khaki collar or my utility vehicle…

        If they think of me as clay from which to build a mate, that’s not my flavour of beer.

        That’s another one: O.K. with beer, Scotch and such.

        Firearms, if important to oneself (presumably that applies to you, gentle reader) should be at worst comfortably accepted by a prospective mate. Likely noone here believes them to be the only measure of a person, but this is a firearms blog.

        Doglovers.org or BBQ.net likely offer differing, complementary advice.

    • I’m a single issue voter; this is it. The great thing about it is it tells you everything about a person by this one issue.Do they, ( the politician or the potential girl friend ) if they believe in freedom, in self-defense, in personal responsibility, and ultimately in freedom. That alone will weed out 95% of either the statist tyrant or the helpless dependant; leaving the few that are worth making an effort to get to know.

      • While firearms and our rights concerning them are very inportant to me, I am not single issue.

        To put it in the context of this article, if a woman loves to shoot but otherwise is a flippin’ psychotic, I’ll not associate with her.

        Same holds with politicians.

        • Oh. I completely agree; of the 5% that I would take time to get to know; finding out if they are psychotic is part of that check off list before getting intimately involved. I stopped jumping into bed with the first hot and willing chick when I hit my early twenties; wait a few months to get past what I call the Golden Glow; get past the initial lust and see if you can be friends in love; there is a difference.

          Now, as a baptized Christian; a year courtship and then wait for our wedding night; I’ve gone old school.

    • I would pay good money for that, especially the inevitable cascade of embarrassing comments from drooling available dudes.

      Actually, that would be another idea: A gun-friendly gal’s take on why some gun guys are still single.

  3. First date with my wife, a foreign national bytheway, I slipped in my desire to purchase a handgun in the future during our conversation. She reacted… well. Had she been opposed, its quite likely I would not have sought out a 2nd date.

    • Actually, I’ve heard GLOCK used on multiple occaions as generic for handgun (although not at the range) like aspirin for any anaIgesic capsule/tablet/whatever or Kleenex for even a cloth towel if used it on ones nose

      Sad, but true.

        • More often “Harley” in my experience, but yes, exactly that.

          Harley = big cruiser with lots of chrome; glock = semi-auto pistol. Regardless of brand.

          In both cases, if the general reaction is good, treat it as ignorance, not stupidity. If the relationship moves forward, there will be time for remedying the lack of knowledge.

  4. “Better a lonely night at home then a cuckolded boyfriend or husband with a short temper finding his wife in bed with you.”
    Thanks for that advice!

  5. “In real life, however, not everyone is so progressive of thought.”

    Now I’m all confusled. Does you do or does you don’t like all that progressive sh¡t?

  6. Step 1) If you need dating advice from a gun blog… YOU NEED HELP. (LOL, j/k)

    On a serious note, as much as we all love and enjoy guns, bringing up the subject isn’t what I’d call “first date” material. Other topics guaranteed to invoke controversy: religion, politics, abortion, and the role of the DH in modern baseball.

    If things get serious (meaning you’d actually like to see the person beyond that first date), then by all means, find a way to ease into conversations about the various “non-negotiable” values you hold dear. Yes, that will require TALKING. Go enjoy a nice meal somewhere. Go out on a hike or a walk in the park. Or, as we do up here in Seattle… go out and have coffee. Something that lends itself to talking.

    To the 20-somethings out there: stalking him/her on Facebook / Instagram doesn’t count as talking.

    • Are you serious? My wife and I went shooting ON our first date? How could it not be brought up?

      Been together over 20 years, by the way.

    • I mention shooting as a hobby, that’s all. It implies you’re a gun owner who enjoys guns but isn’t “weird” about them.

      It’s my **** test for them. If they react negatively I’m out of there.

  7. I will admit that as a gay man I have yet to find a partner who is not game to go to the range at least once or twice. I’ve never met anyone (at least anyone who was a potential partner) who was rabidly anti-gun, although they may have just had a filter on to be polite.

    They may not love it, but it’s usually a fun experience to do once or twice. Although my current partner comes to the range he is the type of guy who will put a magazine through the pistol and spend the rest of the session flipping through his iPhone.

    • Dude, it’s a start.

      My wife was kind of like that until she fired my Kimber the first time. Then, three things happened.

      First, it’s now her Kimber. (But she then gave me a gun for our 1-year anniversary, so it’s okay … I guess …)

      Second, she now will sometimes go to the range on her own, or drag a female friend along for a lady’s day.

      Third, I have to hide a couple of boxes of 45 ACP if there’s going to be any left for me. (I need to start reloading…)

      So … Don’t give up. It might be that he hasn’t found “the right gun” yet.

      Also, have you taken any Firearms-related classes together? It’s a different dynamic than you teaching your SO, it gives you lots to talk about later, and it builds confidence.

      Just a thought, but it’s something else I’ve seen work wonders.

  8. The Single Man’s Guide to Dating:

    1) Pay attention to the woman’s background. I hate to use the word “stereotyping”, but if your lady friend is a fan of Obama and pictures her dream job as being a diplomat at the UN, walk away.

    2) The average girl, though, doesn’t have the faintest idea about the differences between a GLOCK Gen 3 and a Gen 4. And couldnt care less. Be prepared for some ignorant preconceptions as well. If she says something stupid about guns, walk away – if she’s a gun owner and says something stupid about guns, RUN away.

    3) Be on the lookout for any sign of a turbulent past history, if so – you guessed it son, walk away.

    A shorter and more useful list!

  9. In high school, my senior year, my steady girl would go with me to the local range…she loved to shoot, back then it was revolvers and 22 rifles, but she loved it. Her parents would not have been so happy had they known, they thought guns killed people.

      • “If there’s one thing there’s no shortage of in this world- it is people. If some of them can’t behave themselves we’re better off without them.”

        Matt Helm (series by Donald Hamilton)

  10. This happened to me years ago when I was living in Kalifornia. I picked up this gal at a bar/dance, and after a stopping at a couple of other watering holes, we ended up at her place.
    A little while later we were on her bed. After we had finished our romantic session I noticed that there were 7 or 8 long guns on the wall. She said they belong to her ex.
    I called a couple of days later and this time she came to my place. A few days after that, I called her and she informed my that she had decided to reconcile with her husband and that she would no longer be available.
    A while later I was back in the original establishment where I had met her and was talking to the bartender. He said that he had remembered serving us and had seen us leave together. He told me that I might want to be careful with seeing her as she was not in fact separated, but that her husband sometimes left for a few days and that is when she would show up at the bar.
    I asked he knew anything about her husband, and he said that he had thrown him out a couple of times for getting violent with other customers.
    I told him to excuse me, that I needed to locate some fresh underwear.

  11. My significant other comes from the Deep South. She grew up around firearms, but never has personally owned one. We knew each other prior, and she knew of my posession and interest in firearms, so when things kind of happened, it wasn’t a huge issue. She knows and respects my interest, and now we’re at the point of “OK, when are you taking me shooting…you keep saying you will…so?”

    She’s in advertising, and one of her prospective clients is an LGS. She texted me about the store when she stopped in on them, and I jokingly said “Pick me up some 5.56 – and don’t let the guy fool you with .223…”

    When we met later I had a box of 20 Federal XM193. A small thing, yes, but the fact that she bought me ammunition was super cool. And it wasn’t crap Combloc ammo.

  12. I say just the opposite, get that O’Bama loving fool to a gun range ASAP. If she can’t be persuaded to go, let’s face it, she’s just not that into you. If you can’t get her to say, ‘That was cool!’ at least once in two hours at the range, she’s not the girl for you. Better to find out in the first week than after 20 years of marriage.

    • This actually sounds like the first half of a first date. Followed by dinner to reinforce the happy range session!

      Not a happy range session, then it begs the question would you like me to take you home now then? In which case I save the money for dinner. Either way it’s win/win for me!

  13. I bought a Trooper .357mag and walked in, showing it to my wife. “That’s nice. That’s mine. Where’s yours?” was her response on seeing it. I turned around, went out and bought a Ruger .44mag. Same story when I bought a 22-250 to varmint hunt – I ended up with a ,243. The stainless mini14, S&W66 (built by Smith Performance Center ) are all hers – adamantly stated by her, along with others over the years (44 years married). We reload together and I don’t even try to compete with her on the range (even after 47 years of shooting 1911s and my having qualified “expert”). I’ve seen her make very good 500 yard shots in west Texas. Yes, she carries, but not the .44mg (8 3/8″) that she shoots full house loads in. She’s 5′-3″ & 120# – YES! I am afraid of her :-).

  14. When my fiance was still my girlfriend she made a comment to her mom that she thought it weird that I carried almost everywhere we went and not just “dangerous places.” Her mom told her it was because I am smart and know that criminals don’t just commit crime in “dangerous places.”

  15. I never pushed guns on my wife. I told her I owned and carried and she eventually wanted to learn more about them. Her parents still donate to the Brady campaign and volunteered for the Obama campaign.

    I suppose if you are in a big city and want to meet a person who is not anti gun, consider going to a libertarian type of event, you would be hard pressed to find an anti gun person there.

  16. I had a great first date when I went back to a girl’s place and she offered to show me her Ruger. In the morning, however, she told me that she’d kill herself if I ever cheated on her. At that point I got my clothes on and got the hell out of there.

  17. A lot of the difficulties in the situation will go away with age and experience. By the time most reasonable men and women hit their forties, they’ve decided that bullshit is a lot of work for no good reason. Adults are more likely to accept a partner with a few differences, communicate, learn, share whatever you’re in to, and live-and-let-live.

    I’m staying away from the subject of Unreasonable men and women, and so should you. You should know better by twenty-seven, sport.

    • I can vouch for this. My future wife asked if I was a “gun nut”, I said no, I’m a “firearms enthusiast”. We respect each other and she has come around on guns.

  18. Best first date to find out if their keeper material was taking a girl to the NRA range in McLean when I lived in NoVA. Dating was easy out east. But after moving to a oil/gas town in Wyoming…ehhhh, not so much. So I’ve suspended dating in lieu of collecting guns. Sadly, I find it much more fulfilling than most of the women I’ve meet here.

  19. Another option is to gather an extended pool of good friends, associates, coworkers, etc. which include both couples and singles from both sexes. If you find yourself attracted to a member of your group and decide to try dating, the prior familiarity in a friendship setting should have already exposed everyones major bias or stance on the gun issues. The hunting process is also cheaper. Buying expensive drinks at bars or ponying up for an adventure singles club gets pricy quick.

  20. Guys, we’re expected to pay for everything. The transportation, the meal, the drinks, the movie, the concert, whatever, it’s all on us. So instead of worrying about what she wants, maybe we should let her worry about what we want.

    The first date should ALWAYS be at the range, and the outcome will determine whether we actually want a second date. There’s always another woman out there who would be happy for us to blow a week’s pay on them, isn’t there?

  21. A lot of single women I know complain about not being able to find a man to date. I tell ’em either get a bass boat and go fishing, or buy a firearm and go to the range. Either way you’ll be covered up in guys.

  22. Why not start off with a flaming gun hating liberal and coerce her over to the dark side? It happened to Anakin Skywalker, it can happen to anyone.

  23. I was a single guy for 20+ years,up until last year… I never met a chick that didnt love to shoot guns and I did a hell of a lot of dating.. My wife loves it, she would rather spend money on ammo and go shoot then go out to dinner..I think its all in how it’s presented to them.

  24. I imagine this applies whether a gun is in the picture or not, otherwise you have got some pretty damn low standards.

    Also, as a gun guy, I don’t “have the faintest idea about the differences between a GLOCK Gen 3 and a Gen 4. And couldnt care less.” Sorry, it had to be done.

  25. I think I may be the only girl posting here, but I hafta say, this post is hilarious! Buncha gun-toting men griping about women and guns. This is like the men’s version of a beauty salon!

    I think it’s pretty funny and sad but also typical to see so many takes on the topic of guns. I was not raised in a house that was a fan of guns but we weren’t opposed to it. Now all my siblings and I are gun owners and love to go out shooting!

    So, a single girl’s guide to dating gun guys, huh? Well, how about this: I am a single woman who loves shooting, anything I can get my hands on, but I find gun ranges terribly intimidating, especially if I am by myself. Watching all you men out there with your weapons and being all “manly” 😉

    I think it doesn’t have to be complicated to own and shoot, it is our right to own, carry and defend. I’ve gotten into this conversation myself, working in a field that is especially exposed to potentially violent people and I say, heck yes would I pack and use a weapon if I thought it would save lives!

    So boys, if this is such a big part of you, yes, you want to find a girl who’ll either love it or be at least okay with it. Remember, though, for some girls it is an intimidation or lack of knowledge factor. So your challenge is to step up and be the gentleman to introduce and entice her with something you enjoy!

    And as for the first date, might not be the best time to give that ultimatum, but drop the hints and let her know your interest in guns. If she’s like me, she’ll definitely pick up and jump on it. If not, give her time!

    Best of luck to all you crazy men!

    • lgnp,

      As far as the intimidation, I’m a believer in women teaching women to shoot. That came about when my wife went to her first Babes with Bullets camp. (Look it up and go if possible.) The quality of the trainers is the highest and the “women teaching women” aspect really lowers the intimidation factor.

      For the men, I believe the future of the 2nd amendment lies with the women in this country. Sometimes, the relationship (especially in marriage) makes it difficult for you to be the one that teaches your significant other to shoot. In that case, look for creative ways to do it. Is there a woman at the range (or at work or church or some other group of people) that you know who could help teach your wife?

      Mike

  26. I’ve found that mothers are an excellent barometer for the habits and viewpoints of their feminine offspring. I dated a girl in College who was a 9/10. Good looking, sunny personality, great conversationalist, lots of fun.

    Her mom was, however, a Crazy Bitch. Anti-Gun. Anti-Republican. Multiple divorcee. She was as far left as it gets, and had more personality flaws than any reasonable person is allowed.

    I originally thought “Wow, she’s nothing like her mom!”
    And man did that viewpoint change fast.
    Point being, women tend to look and act a LOT like their mothers. There are exceptions, but as a general rule of thumb, a crazy mother is an excellent disqualifier for any serious long term relationship considerations.

    So if the girl in question has a mother who is a rabid guncontrol advocate, who thinks Obama was the second coming, and that Fienstien is a tireless champion of Public safety.. Start cutting your ties now.

    Just my personal experience, YMMV

  27. I’m a 25 year old single male living in South Carolina.

    texting has become my main form of communication with young ladies. weather we meet online or face to face, after the initial conversation, it moves to texting. I end up leading a lot of question and it kind of becomes a 20 questions “get to know you” session. once the basic are covered, I slip in “how do you feel about guns” it’s a slightly awkward but very blunt question. usual answer is “not a lot of exposure, but not against it” a trip to the gun range makes for a great 3rd or 4th date. after i ask, they usually ask the same. i volunteer that i enjoy shooting and own a few. i dont volunteer that i have a CCW permit and carry everywhere i can.

    so far, it has been a very positive response. once they have shot a gun responsibly, they are much less squeamish about me carrying.

    • Want some free, unsolicited advice?

      Stop texting. During the ‘get to know you’ phase, go for face-to-face real human interaction.

      Non face-toface communication is NOT the way you want to get to know a potential mate…and can be quite bad overall. My opinion, but also some studies are starting to come out on this.

  28. I had a date back in my ravage, ravage some more and then release days with a girl who I thought would be a nice one to, ahem, “date”.

    So, we’re at a priming date when I get to know what she likes, what she finds romantic. Gives me a chance to get them thinking romance.

    The first red flag was when she said she was a vegetarian and can never have fast food. Okay… We’re at a decent restaurant and she’s happily munching her rabbit food.

    She asked me what I was doing that weekend as we were scheduling our romantical date. I said teaching about a hundred kids how to shoot handguns.

    You woulda thought I was stepping on her pet kitten, crushing it to death under my foot.

    No kiss or sex from her. Hallelujah.

    The sex probably would have been pretty good, but the moonbat drama? Nah, there’s plenty of conservative-leaning girls who are freaks in bed.

    John

  29. More often than not I found that discussions about outdoors led to me sharing that I hunt, which led to some discussions about guns.

    I found this to be an effective not threstining way to bring up the topic and to peak her interest. I could usually find out what experience/exposure she had pretty quickly. From that point it was easy to transition to “Youve never shot before? I’ll take you out and show you how sometime” 98% success rate with that approach.

    Of course this all took an interesting turn when the girl who became my wife said ” hell yea. I shoot. Ive got an AK in my closet” and I find out her dad is an ffl.

    All in all I couldn’t be luckier. But that approach Never felt forced and made the few girlfriends before her very comfortable

  30. My wife was highly offended that I hunted, owned guns, and voted Republican when we started dating. 13 years and a couple kids later, she has a CHL, and put Ted Cruz signs all over our yard. Its amazing how people change when they grow up, get married, and have a couple kids.

  31. Happened to me. The wife was originally, terrified of guns. I’m talking a ‘lord of the rings’ type kind of hysterical thinking that a gun within close proximity will slowly corrupt a person and turn them in to a murderer, kind of terrified. I explained that she didn’t have to like it, but it was an opportunity for the two of us to spend time together. I paid for her to take a basic pistol class taught by a competitive USPSA shooter that also happens to be a lady. Told the wife that if she didn’t like it, I understand, and you don’t have to go shooting with me if you don’t want to but go in with an open mind and give it a try.

    Worst mistake of my life… j/k . The wife takes instruction very well and likes the fact that, on the range, she can shut out everything but the sight picture, breathing, trigger squeeze. She says that she likes target shooting because it’s like yoga with proof that you did the technique well.

    It took her a lot less time than it took me to learn to shoot a handgun well and now she actually bugs me to take her to the range.

  32. I consider myself lucky. My fiance is an NRA certified pistol instructor– firearms are not only welcome in the relationship, they are actually encouraged. She can smoke me in pistol competition, but I’ve got the leg up when it comes to longarms!

  33. Finally got my wife of 27+ years to come around to thinking about learning to shoot. She then suffered an aneurysm, and passed away in December. Not that I’m looking to date, but I found this read very interesting. Might bookmark this, in case the time ever comes…

  34. “Be on the lookout for any sign of a turbulent past history, and weigh anchor of you detect signs of problems. I don’t want to say that women should be judged for their past mistakes, but you have to be practical about this.”

    Rules of Life:
    Never eat at a place called Mom’s.
    Never play cards with a man called Doc.
    Never date a woman with more problems than you have.

    Oh yeah – a Smith & Wesson beats 4 aces.

  35. One of my first dates with my wife I took her shooting to make sure I wouldn’t be wasting my time. She enjoys shooting with me but is still somewhat cautious since she had never even held one until she met me. Going on 4 years together and she is thinking about getting her CCW permit.

  36. Those who play for the other team I think tend to have it harder, since the rainbowier side tends to be very left(understandably so of course) and tends to go with the whole left on guns and all other issues. Then again, if you can convince someone of the same sex(that likes the same sex) to go shooting with you, then that makes for a pretty amazing first date don’t you think?

  37. I actually started carrying BECAUSE a girl had a psycho druggie ex in her life. Better safe than sorry. We dated six months and other than a few real thugs in her circle of acquaintances, up until the very end it was an absolutely wonderful relationship. So I’m gonna disagree with fretting over a girl’s past.

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