Gun Review: GLOCK 42

121 responses

  1. avatar
    John K
    February 11, 2014

    It’s Hickock45 not Kickok45

    • avatar
      Danny Griffin
      February 11, 2014

      No, it’s not. It’s hickok45.

      • avatar
        John K
        February 11, 2014

        Right

    • avatar
      Dan Zimmerman
      February 11, 2014
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        Mike
        February 11, 2014

        I believe his gripe may have been with an errant ‘k.’

        ” But not everything works. Kickok45 found that super-snappy, 100gr. “

      • avatar
        Dan Zimmerman
        February 11, 2014

        Ah. Thanks for pointing that out. Text amended.

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    Danny Griffin
    February 11, 2014

    Well I, for one, don’t get it. Loads of interest and anticipation for a .380 Auto? Sad.

    • avatar
      Roscoe
      February 11, 2014

      Keeps the interest up and generates new sales activity; you favor a strong, quality gun industry, don’t you?

      Besides, not all gun users have your braun. What’s your problem with that?

      I own multiple handguns from .22 through .44 mag / .45ACP. Each has its use and purpose.

      I guess if you want to be a caliber snob, it’s your loss.

    • avatar
      Accur81
      February 11, 2014

      You know what’s really mind – blowing? A lot of .380 costs more than 9mm. Still .380 is going to be a good caliber for my recoil sensitive wife, and maybe as a backup for me.

      • avatar
        Gregolas
        February 11, 2014

        My wife. Ditto. I’ve been in the doghouse ever since I sold her SIG P230.
        The 42 should get me out.

      • avatar
        Kent Unterseher
        February 11, 2014

        I agree. I bought a Ruger LCP and thought mine would love it. The small frame and light wait, however, gives it a lot of felt recoil. She fired one mag through it and handed it back with a, “no thank you”. She does love shooting my suppressed 22/45, however. She has good taste… :-) I’m thinking this might be a good fit for her. Thanks for the review Dan!

    • avatar
      Rob Aught
      February 11, 2014

      I’ve never understood the .380 hate. Ballistically it is not that different than a 9mm Luger. There is literally 2mm difference in the length of bullet between the two and they are both 9mm in diameter. If I were knowingly going into a gunfight I would take a 9mm anyday, but for an everyday carry gun where you hope not to use it but want a big enough bullet the .380 is what I consider the bottom of the ballistic barrel for self defense. Not the greatest but powerful enough to get the job done.

      I can get behind piling on .32 ACP and .25 ACP because though rounds have some serious issues when it comes to actually doing enough tissue damage to stop an assailant. Yes, yes, “placement matters” but it also matter that you inflict enough damage/pain to convince someone that attacking you is just not worth it even if you don’t get off a perfect shot. That said, I know of some folks who, for medical reasons, can’t even handle a .380 and so they do use the lower calibers.

      If I want a 9mm subcompact Glock they already make one. If I want a single stack, I’ll get a S&W Shield. I believe Glock attempted a .45 single stack and it flopped. This makes sense from their perspective and if it does well it may yet get the 9mm treatment.

      However, their is nothing manlier about a 9mm vs. .380. Following that logic we should all be carrying .45′s and none of this 9mm eurotrash.

      • avatar
        Jim Barrett
        February 11, 2014

        There is a lot more to the equation than bullet size. Check the wikipedia entries for 9mm and .380 and pay attention to the energy in the Ballistic Performance box on the right. The 9mm is moving a hell of a lot faster than the .380 and this combined with the bullet weight in the larger sizes (124 and 147 grain) means a lot more energy gets transferred to the target.

        Velocity also increases the penetration of the round, so a 9mm is more likely to have a lot of punch remaining after it penetrates thick clothing than a .380.

        Not saying that the .380 is not a lethal round – hell, a .22 is very lethal in the right place. It’s just that the lethal margin of error is less with 9mm versus .380 which is why some people shy away from the .380 in favor of the 9.

      • avatar
        Rob Aught
        February 11, 2014

        Sorry, I oversimplified trying to cover too many bases at once.

        Yes, the 9mm is a superior penetrator and that is why I would prefer it over the .380.

        However, the overall difference even in penetration is still not that great. At the end of the day, any handgun is lousy in a gunfight. As I’ve heard it put so succinctly “I carry a handgun because I can’t conceal a rifle”

      • avatar
        Hannibal
        February 11, 2014

        Or check the difference between the height\length of a .22 vs. .223 bullet only… it’s not the whole story indeed.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Rob,

        The .380 “hate” is because it is a marginal caliber. It is handily outperformed by the .40 Smith, which literally carries twice the mass for twice the energy or more, and a larger diameter bullet. The 9mm has considerably more penetration and energy than the .380 as well. If proper bullet and brand selection is not religiously followed, the .380 will fail to push its 85-100 grain JHP through 12″ of gel with 1.5x expansion. Most .380 JHPs under penetrate, and ball penetrates past 18″ without expanding. Not good.

        Shooting the Bull recently documented only two rounds (Federal HydraShok and an off brand) which were reliably able to perform through denim covered gel. The 9mm, .40, and .45 will push virtually *any* decent JHP through 12 plus inches of gel combined with 1.5x penetration.

        Were I to go into a gun fight, I’d take a 12 gauge, 5.56, 6.8, or 300 BLK. At distance, it’d be a .308 or .338 Lapua.

    • avatar
      Jim Barrett
      February 11, 2014

      Nah, it makes perfect sense. Glock gets to test out it’s new single stack manufacturing process on a gun that will have really good, but not stupendous sales. Lot’s of Glock people run out to grab this first effort. Next year at the shot show, they finally unveil the 42.5 (or whatever the hell they are going to call it) in 9mm. Many of the people who bought the 42 run out and get the new gun as well as people who decided to sit out the whole .380 option. They sell way more .380 guns than they would have if the 9mm had been released at the same time.

      • avatar
        mrvco
        February 11, 2014

        Exactly.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Glock knows marketing.

      • avatar
        Gregolas
        February 11, 2014

        You make sense Jim. I’ll buy the 42 for my wife and then be first in line for the single stack 9mm next year.
        Color me hooked.

      • avatar
        tdiinva
        February 11, 2014

        Glock Fans are just like iPhone junkies. They both rush out to buy the lastest product even wheh there are better options. I bet there are a lot of Glocksters, who never would have considered a 380 before the 42 came out, rushing out to buy one.

      • avatar
        Michael B.
        February 11, 2014

        I ran out and bought a Glock 30S recently. Totally worth the money I paid for it, by the way. I know you like .45 too so if you’re in the market for an easily concealable good shooter with 11 rounds of 230 grain on board, give it a look.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Which better options? I can get a Glock 42 for $339. Which .380 out there offers more value and better performance?

      • avatar
        Michael B.
        February 11, 2014

        Us non-LEO, non-security, non-EMT, non-military, non-firefighters can’t get Glocks for that cheap. So keep that in mind.

      • avatar
        tdiinva
        February 11, 2014

        I prefer tuperware by Springfield and I generally do not carry anything smaller than a compact.

      • avatar
        Stinkeye
        February 11, 2014

        The Kahr CW380 is only $350, and it will actually shoot those Buffalo Bore 100-grainers that gave this Glock fits.

  3. avatar
    TangledThorns
    February 11, 2014

    Mark my words. Glock will be doing a Ruger and we’ll be seeing this in 9mm next year.

    • avatar
      Ben_in_PA
      February 11, 2014

      It looks like Glock learned from Ruger’s experience. After Ruger released the LCP, they came out with the bigger LC9, and then offered the bigger gun in .380 to satisfy the people who wanted something with real sights and big enough to comfortable hold and shoot. Glock jumped to the bigger .380 from the start.

    • avatar
      Taylor Tx
      February 11, 2014

      Id honestly prefer if it was a 9mm :) but to each his own.

  4. avatar
    Mark N.
    February 11, 2014

    Did some one’s puppy get ahold of one of those mags? Looks pretty chewed up in the pic.

    • avatar
      Mark N.
      February 11, 2014

      Oh, I know. It is a baby GOCK, after all, and the review said it was having “teething” problems.

    • avatar
      Dan Zimmerman
      February 11, 2014

      Sure did. Had the gun less than an hour when one of my Labs snuck it off the table.

      • avatar
        peirsonb
        February 11, 2014

        ONE OF my labs?

        I knew I liked you for more than just impeccable grammar and wit….

      • avatar
        Dan Zimmerman
        February 11, 2014

        They’re like Lays potato chips. You can’t have just one.

      • avatar
        Matt in FL
        February 11, 2014

        Before Dan was “Dan Zimmerman from TTAG” he was a commenter here under the name of 2yellowdogs.

      • avatar
        Kyle in CT
        February 11, 2014

        Excellent argument for why the caliber argument is irrelevant. If somebody breaks into my house the dogs are going to turn them into cat food before I’m even out of bed.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Not gun related, but my Weimaraner destroyed my wife’s favorite pair of red high heels, and literally ate a pair of Ugs and barfed them up. Daddy was not happy.

      • avatar
        Gregolas
        February 11, 2014

        Why? Were they your Ugs?

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        No. Wife looked good in both. Replacing the high heels ran me $80 (but was very worth it), and I’m not paying $200 + bucks to replace the Ugs. Let’s just say I’d rather spend the money on ammo or scotch.

      • avatar
        Robinson
        March 2, 2014

        Just curious where you can get a glock 42 for $339. I’m considering one but not for the higher prices I’ve seen.

  5. avatar
    ensitue
    February 11, 2014

    Just what was wanted/needed a 380 with sights, size and mass equal to the tasks required in MOUT situations (but too heavy to carry in a pocket)

  6. avatar
    Chris
    February 11, 2014

    Wow. If only the R51 had gotten as much deference in the “customize this” category. “People will make stuff for it, so it counts, trust me”. As opposed to “Only one holster available? 1 month after it was announced? 1 star!”

    • avatar
      Hannibal
      February 11, 2014

      Yeah it’s kinda funny how one gun will get a pass over another because apparently people still want a glock that doesn’t eat all ammo even though that’s one of the things glock is supposed to do…

    • avatar
      Trick
      February 11, 2014

      I am so glad that other people are seeing this too.
      1) R51 got knocked for being too big. The Glock being larger than its competitors is somehow glorified for it.
      2) It basically failed the one task all Glocks do, fire everything. Its larger, thicker, and more expensive than it’s competitors and somehow got a favorable review because it’s a Glock.

      • avatar
        Chris
        February 11, 2014

        This site fails at reviews, hard. This smells to me like “Hey, everyone says the glock is silly, lets give it a perfect score!” and “Hey, everyone loves the R51, its refreshing, lets give it TWO STARS”

      • avatar
        Michael B.
        February 11, 2014

        Both guns are crap.

        This has been a short review from Michael B.

      • avatar
        Actually
        February 11, 2014

        In TTAG’s defense, the R51 and G42 were reviewed by two different people. Also, I like the fact that TTAG goes with the no-BS, like it or not here’s what I personally think style vs. the “professional” magazine style which can lull you into a false sense of trust. As someone who’s been coming here a couple of years now I understand that there’s no standard the reviewers use when coming up with ratings, or even reviewing the guns. Also, the reviews tend to be very subjective.

        So, as anyone should do with any single review from anyone (in person, on the internet, in a magazine, etc.) I take what I read here into consideration… but don’t base my decision solely on it.

        That said, it does seem ridiculous that the G42 gets a pass and 4 stars for “reliability” despite supposedly being “Perfection” yet being extremely picky about ammo, while there’s apparently “no reason” to buy the R51 despite it working with all types of ammo, having a super easy to rack slide, being cheaper, etc. The only major real problem I saw with the R51 was with putting the slide stop back potentially incorrectly. Which I would imagine will be quickly fixed by Remington if it really is that hard to put it back together properly.

        Some of the wording for the R51 really made it seem like the reviewer was still sore that he wasn’t part of the crew that had an all expenses paid trip to be the first ones to test the gun out to be honest.

      • avatar
        Michael B.
        February 11, 2014

        I also wish they’d have reviewers who are normal-sized review guns that give bigger guys slide bite.

      • avatar
        Renegade Dave
        February 11, 2014

        I don’t know, the R51 had a serious flaw w/ the reassembly bit, and was apparently painful to shoot, not just for NL, but RF as well.

        The problem with comparing the 42 to it’s competitors, you’re only looking at 380s, which are generally smaller, so by comparison this is larger. However it is slightly smaller and notably lighter than a shield or XDs9 (and also with a weenier caliber). The reviewer mentioned he has small hands and it fits him well. He’s someone who obviously doesn’t mind carrying 380, so he had a positive review of it.

        I would like to see a “state of the CCW” article that is more or less a round up of single stack pistols with picks for “best for new shooters/women” etc. I suspect after this SHOT show there isn’t a lot that has changed from last year.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Probably best to stick with the Guns & Ammo reviews, then. Every product is a winner.

      • avatar
        Renegade Dave
        February 11, 2014

        I started to agree with you, then I stopped. The R51 is a Remington, the 42 is a Glock. Glock is the 800 lb gorilla of handguns. So the 42 WILL sell a lot (and is from what I understand). The R51 may or may not succeed, either way you’ve got a pistol supported by Glock and a pistol supported by Remmington. The 42 will have at least twice as many holster options this time next year than the R51.

  7. avatar
    dlj95118
    February 11, 2014

    “…predictions of dogs and cats living together, real wrath of God type stuff.”
    Nice Ghost Busters reference!

    • avatar
      Heretical Politik
      February 11, 2014

      Agreed…

      Also, great review. I’m not going to run out and buy one of these right this minute, but I probably will at some point.

      • avatar
        dlj95118
        February 11, 2014

        …my first thought was “I want one!”. Then, someone mentioned waiting a year to let the bugs be worked out. THEN Kalifornia pushed the micro-stamp ruling, and that’s when I gave up on the idea.

    • avatar
      Pulatso
      February 11, 2014

      If someone asks if you want a Glock, SAY YES!

  8. avatar
    Accur81
    February 11, 2014

    I may be getting one of these for the wife to CCW. It would be nice to shoot everything (so far my Glock 23 shoots everything I’ve put in to from 180 grain range reloads – screw the warranty – to Underwood 155 and 165 JHP+Ps).

    With that being said, ARs can get jammed with 35 grain ammo and more than a few high end 1911s have choked on JHPs. Since I’ll actually shoot my SD guns with practice ammo and 100-200 rounds of SD ammo, I’ll know that my gun is reliable from actual testing and practice.

    If an experienced author chooses a gun for his EDC CCW, that’s high praise. It’s looking like this gun is worth at least some of the hype.

  9. avatar
    Ralph
    February 11, 2014

    If the G42 isn’t cycling all ammo properly, the problem might be the recoil springs — again. You’d think that “Perfection” might actually mean being perfect, but apparently it means something different in Austria. And Georgia.

    • avatar
      Accur81
      February 11, 2014

      Easy fix, though.

      • avatar
        Ralph
        February 11, 2014

        Not necessarily. The last time Glock had spring problems, the company simply retrofitted their new generation pistols with old generation springs, et voila! Problem fixed.

        But there are no old generation springs for the G42.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        According to the review, it works reliably with *most* ammo. I take that to mean exactly what it says. The author is sufficiently confident with its reliability to carry it every day.

        So the “fix” may take awhile but the gun can allegedly still run just fine as is. I’d give a gun 4 stars if it can shoot SAAMI spec ammo 200/200, and 5 stars if it can shoot everything. YMMV.

    • avatar
      Michael B.
      February 11, 2014

      Glock’s obsession with putting double recoil springs in all of their Gen 4 guns was stupid. The Glock 17 and 19 were just fine without double recoil springs. This thing would be fine without one too. .40, 10mm, .357 Sig, and .45ACP? Fine. But .380 and 9mm? Ridiculous.

  10. avatar
    Philip
    February 11, 2014

    Dan,

    Is the metal base plate of your recoil spring assembly bent slightly? Mine is not a perfectly flat circle and I’m trying to determine if I got a bad apple or if this is normal.

    Shoots fine though.

    Thanks

  11. avatar
    Dirk Diggler
    February 11, 2014

    if you don’t want to keep it Dan, holla. I will buy it.

  12. avatar
    ensitue
    February 11, 2014

    5.3 OZ lighter than an empty G-26 9mm, but with more pocket unfriendly square edges and less Boolits/power

  13. avatar
    David
    February 11, 2014

    more junk from Glock,and more R&D research done by the John Q public as usual. whatever happened to Glock perfection that Gaston Glock started in 1984. a military designed self defense pistol that’s finicky on ammunition that is absolutely ridiculous! Glock is just making money off their name now, their product has dropped in quality tenfold since 1984! and no most guns today will shoot just about any ammunition you want, its the older guns that have issues with hollow point ammunition in various load weights and pressure levels! most new guns Wolfire anything you put in the magazine. I own 7 blocks dating from 1985 all the way up till current and I’ve had a serious issue with my 19 as everyone else did with the request spring. I owned a 36 that the magazine delaminated in the mag well so bad I had to take the slide of impound the magazine out with a wooden doll and a hammer! more junk for the unsuspecting new gun owner that doesn’t know the difference between quality made firearms and crap! they’re just living off the name that guest on block made for them over years of producing high quality high functioning combat-ready firearms not the junk there making today!

    • avatar
      ensitue
      February 11, 2014

      Disengage auto-spell-check

    • avatar
      KCK
      February 11, 2014

      Here is a guy who knows what is junk. He has studied Quality Control for years. Everything he writes is checked and re-check.
      He would never let anything out the door that is sub quality.

      Unlike “more junk from Glock”
      his guns Wolfire anything.
      he owns 7 blocks
      all with the request spring.
      and the slide of impound
      Barbie is jealous because he’s out with a wooden doll.
      And finaly, they are living off the name that guest on block made … not the junk there making today!
      Dave, Dave, Dave, Thou doth protest too much.

      BTW
      Glock, S&W, SIG, Colt and Kimber are all crap too!

      • avatar
        JWC
        February 11, 2014

        You all better watch out. Later down the guy might turn out to be a heavily disabled vet, and you will get called names.

      • avatar
        Matt in FL
        February 12, 2014

        Yep, you’re correct. Disabled veteran, partially sighted, commenting via speech to text on his phone. I’m not going to call anyone names, just verifying that what you said is accurate.

  14. avatar
    bontai Joe
    February 11, 2014

    But… But.. it doesn’t have a rail, or threaded barrel or a bayonet lug. How am I gonna look tacticool with this (just kidding!) I’m thinking that this might be good for the Mrs. to carry. Reliable, simple to use, manageable recoil and decent sights pretty much checks off all the stuff on my list for a gun for her to carry.

    • avatar
      tdiinva
      February 11, 2014

      I hear “a 380 for the wifey” a lot. I think that is real sexism. Women can handle larger calibers just fine.

      • avatar
        Shooting The Bull
        February 11, 2014

        Yep. My wife passed her CHL test using a Glock 21…

      • avatar
        Hank
        February 11, 2014

        Mmmhmm. Don’t get in front of my wife with a 9mm and say that.

      • avatar
        LC Judas
        February 11, 2014

        Some of them often insist on a 380 from their reading or from LGS owners and employees offering “experienced” advice.

        This ultimately is a bad call because trying it is how you know you like it and my girl carped the 380 blues till she got it and shot it next to my MP9C. Then she put the 380 down on her own and tore the target up with authority with my 9mm.

        Same girl is scared to shoot a .45, since it’s a mule kicking death ray and all. She’s afraid of damaging the nearby countryside…/sarcasm off

        That leeriness is real and palpable for her. If I had some. 45 ball I would train her on it but that time will come. Preconceived notions and the idea of a fear supercedes any practical application of that fear being rational more often than not. Some of us don’t have the budget or patience or luxury of time required to dispel these fears (5 fruitless range visits and long discussion on my end just to get from .22 and .38 to 9mm) so it’s like releasing a product that saves time and effort but still performs the (sex is by nature) purpose in this case.

        Your mileage and others may vary of course.

  15. avatar
    tdiinva
    February 11, 2014

    The Glock 42 appears to be the most reviewed handgun in history. It’s an inexpensive, reliable 380 carry gun that breaks no new ground. Enough already.

  16. avatar
    Gerg McKing
    February 11, 2014

    Gigantic YAWN…. love my Glock 26 Gen4, but my other gun is a Kahr CM9, chambered in a “full-blown” 9mm +P round; the CM9 is smaller in every aspect than the new Glock 42. I carry the Glock 26 most of the time when I can conceal under a coat. Sometimes the Kahr CM9 fills the bill, being smaller I can pocket carry if I have to or holster it. I have the best of both worlds and can carry +P self defense 9mm HP rounds. Screw .380, ammo cost more and it is weaker, no doubt. If I got a 380 (and don’t ever plan on it) my choice would be a super small frame model not a G42. I already have a 9mm smaller than the G42. BTW I reload my 9mm for about 15 cents a round…. You all have a good day.

  17. avatar
    Jeff G.
    February 11, 2014

    I’d be curious to see how it stacks up against a Walther PK380. The Walther is not the smallest .380 out there but it is still easily concealable and a dream to shoot. Has barely more recoil than a Walther P22.

    • avatar
      KCK
      February 11, 2014

      Got one, love it, PK that is. Sweetest shooter I have and yes, my wife carries it.
      Easy slide rack. Best grip feel of all. Looking to compare the two.

      For carry, she doesn’t like to carry the PK with the safety off and it is a flick up not a sweep down. Her thumb bends kinda odd so she often uses her off hand to operate the safety.
      I would feel better if she could just draw and fire.
      So I’m looking at the 42 for her to carry and one for me… just because.

      One other thing about the PK, no slide stop, gotta use the empty mag to lock open.

  18. avatar
    Javier
    February 11, 2014

    The reason it doesn’t have a grooved trigger is that it’s made in the USA, so said grooves didn’t need to be added to meet BATFE’s stupid points requirements for imports.

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    Semper Why
    February 11, 2014

    While I think it’s interesting to compare this every so often with the Glock 26… how does it compare with the G36? Same capacity, bigger bullets… the difference must be in size, right? But where?

  20. avatar
    Nathanael
    February 11, 2014

    Yep, this is pretty much dead on. The G42 will not give maximum firepower per cubic inch and it has some trouble cycling ammo that’s at the extreme ends of the 380 bell curve. I think that the second is a worse problem than the first, but will likely be fixed, and is easy enough to work around in the meantime. Glock fans are, of course, snapping them up right now, but in the long term this gun will do very well being sold to new shooters, especially those who have trouble handling more powerful loads.

  21. avatar
    Detroiter
    February 11, 2014

    Meh. Xds 9mm still wins on paper. I will likely never even shoot this unless a buddy happens to buy one….

  22. avatar
    Jesse M
    February 11, 2014

    Can you put it next to the Kahr CW9? I have the CW9 and I love it and on paper it looks to be the same size only having the advantage of being 9mm which makes it a bit more appealing to me.

    • avatar
      mrvco
      February 11, 2014

      ditto, I’d also like to see that CW9 / G42 comparison.

      • avatar
        Accur81
        February 11, 2014

        Me too.

      • avatar
        Mark N.
        February 11, 2014

        Ditto. I think the big difference will be height (4.5″ for the CW, 4.13 for the GLOCK) capacity (7+1 for the CW in 9 mm, versus 6+1 in .380 for the GLOCK) and barrel length (3.6 for the CW, versus 3.25 for the GLOCK). O/A length is a tie.
        A better comparison would be to the CM9, which is less tall (4.0″) and carries one less round than the CW, and also has a shorter barrel (3.0″) (weight is about the same as the GLOCK).

        I own a CW9 and love it. Not suitable for pocket carry though. I would have bought a CM, but California tells me it is an “unsafe” handgun and cannot be purchased.

  23. avatar
    Kevin A
    February 11, 2014

    You have small hands? Then I must have girl hands. I was able to get all of my fingers around gun and hold it comfortably. It was, without a doubt, the nicest small sized carry gun that I’ve held.

    One will be in my safe soon.

    • avatar
      Hank
      February 11, 2014

      +1 Agreed. After looking at the LCP, 738, and others, this is a great pistol. Yes, there’s a slight size compromise, but it pays off in a pistol that is actually fun to shoot.

      As for it being a 380, I’ll take shootingthebull410′s thorough research over all the bloviating any day of the week.

  24. avatar
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
    February 11, 2014

    Anyone release a +2 baseplate for this yet? It’d be good for pinkies..

    • avatar
      Daniel Casher
      February 24, 2014

      Galloway Precision will soon have a +1 Mag Extension on the market. Around $15. I might or might not opt for it. They already have a Stainless Steel guide rod assembly for $22. This is the best 380 I have ever shot. My only complaint was the finger grip ribs on the end of the slide weren’t aggressive enough. I fixed that with a couple of little pieces of grip tape. I installed Ameriglo night sights on mine, and that is all I’m gonna do I think. At first I wanted to lighten the trigger pull, like on my G19, but not now. A little dry fire practice and the little 42 is just fine. I load it with Precision One 90gr FTX which shoots just fine in it. I did run a box and a half of Buffalo Bore 100gr +P Hard Cast Flat Nose through it with no problems whatsoever, but they are quite a bit snappier, and I don’t like the over penetration factor. I love the bone crushing flat nose bullet, but I prefer my rounds to stay inside the recipient. The Precision One’s tested great, with 12-14″ penetration and expansion. I won’t abandon my G19 or my Sig P938, but I have no fear of carrying the G42 at all. A great little gun.

  25. avatar
    Cogline
    February 11, 2014

    I hope that this hot selling Glock will lead to more/cheaper .380 ammo being available. Would love the cost of shooting my PPK to come down some.

    Maybe Glock could have silenced some of the critics if they had called it a 9mm Kurz instead of a .380.

  26. avatar
    catboss
    February 11, 2014

    What? You can’t come up with your own stuff, you have to steal Ghost Buster lyrics? – “dogs and cats living together, real wrath of God type stuff”.
    I’ll bet you thought no one would call you on this.

    • avatar
      Ralph
      February 11, 2014

      Wow! You are the only human being in the entire universe who has ever seen Ghostbusters and remembers that particular scene! Thank you for helping us out. We are not worthy to be in the presence of your eidetic memory. Now go back to your Xbox and leave the adults alone.

      • avatar
        dlj95118
        February 11, 2014

        .hey waitaminute!!!
        Check 2/11/2014 @ 11:31. There’s more than one!

    • avatar
      Dan Zimmerman
      February 11, 2014

      Yes. You caught me. I’m guilty. I’d concocted a nefarious plan to use an obscure quote only a handful of dedicated cinemaphiles would have heard from a movie almost no one has ever seen and pass it off as my own original work. But somehow you saw right through my carefully veiled web of deceit.

      Bravo, sir. You’re obviously the better man. I hereby turn in my cinematic reference card and I’m canceling my Netflix membership.

  27. avatar
    kato
    February 11, 2014

    Thanks for taking the time to report on the G42 for us. Nice work. Caliber aside, it appears a nice little pistol. Not sure it will replace my LCP, but it is a Glock, so maybe. And, I also will be in line for the 9mm version next year…

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    James
    February 11, 2014

    The arrival of the Glock 42 in stores is a good thing. Many persons who carry a concealed handgun pretend that they lug around a full-sized 1911 in .45 ACP all the time. That is untrue. Pistol and holster sales data demonstrates that .380 pistols must serve as either a primary or backup carry weapon for a very large number individuals. Competition in that market segment is desirable since it should improve quality – which is already good – and lower prices. The best thing about the G42 is that it provides another choice for people who either can’t or won’t shoot a more powerful round.

    The Glock 42 may not be my cup of tea, but for some shooters it is exactly what they want and need.

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    Chas
    February 11, 2014

    Owned one .380 in my life; I’ll never own another. Anyone who carries .380 isn’t serious about self-protection.

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      Hank
      February 11, 2014

      Nor are they a True Scotsman, I suppose.

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        Matt in FL
        February 11, 2014

        Mouth –> words. Thanks.

  30. avatar
    ST
    February 11, 2014

    Some thoughts.

    The G42 is a gun for John Q Public. See, unlike us gun geeks, John and Jane Q don’t know about terminal ballistics, 9mm vs 45 ACP, or who John Moses Browning is. All they know is they need a gun, it can’t cost a lot, and it needs to be concealable. Im not married and have no immediate plans for such, but the men I know who are can’t bring home a $600+ handgun unless it comes with a divorce attorney’s retainer.

    Go ahead, pooh pooh it because its chambered in .380. But remember, most people walking about in America wont ever need to do more then draw the piece to end the fight. Even more people will go to their graves without ever needing to clear holster in direct self defense. For folks who commute to work in a car, work in an office, and whose primary weapon on duty is a laptop computer from the company IT department, this is just the ticket.

    For all the talk about firearms and self defense, there are a LOT more concrete threats to our lives then being shot . Like a car wreck, or heart disease. I don’t carry a .380 myself, but a man or woman who totes one and has a Bondurant-type vehicle dynamics class and an active gym membership is better prepared for realistic “tactical threats” to their lives then the obese guy with a Sig P226 Navy on his overburdened hip.

    As to the R51 vs G42 review “discrepancy” noted above, ill just say that the G42 can be disassembled and re-assembled by the user without requiring a test fire afterward to verify the thing actually works.

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    Jay
    February 11, 2014

    I have been extremely happy with my LCP. It kicks like a mule but it can get the job done. Not that pocket carry without a pocket holster is a recommended method of carrying, the long trigger squeeze on the LCP (and P3-AT for that matter) allows it to be pretty forgiving. If I were to carry without a holster, I’d rather carry the LCP than the Glock and I am concerned that there are those who will chuck the thing into their pants without a holster and cause unneeded drama.

  32. avatar
    JT
    February 11, 2014

    I am still wanting to hold out for a 9mm. And there is no reason they shouldn’t be able to fit an extra round in that mag. The teething issues with ammo gives me the feeling that this will end up like the first few years of the 9mm gen 4 guns (and to some extent the gen 3 guns at the same time) First was the recoil springs, and they went through a couple revisions of those to find the ones that worked best. Then They decided to change to MIM extractors and that screwed up both generations, leading to them introducing a new ejector to fix the issue. It seemed like it took about 2 years to get the gen 4 guns actually working properly.

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    Glockinpocket
    February 11, 2014

    All this fuss over .380 vs. 9mm, the size of your pistol and the size of your hands! The most overlooked gun on the market seems to be the old Glock Model 36. My 36 is 3/4 inch longer than the new “Baby Glock” and is 1/2 inch taller — AND IT’S A .45 APC!!! With the Crimson Trace Laserguard, it eats the heart out of a target at 25 yards! It has never failed to cycle whatever brand or weight of ammo I happen to feed it. I’ll admit that it is a bit heavy in my front pocket, but you get used to it — and the confidence that is felt with a .45 vs. anything else is really good compensation! With a Fobus ankle holster (sometimes I carry two!), you can almost forget it’s there. For the little differences in size and weight, I’ll stick with my .45s!

  34. avatar
    Kevin
    February 11, 2014

    For crying out loud Glocks are NOT perfection. FLAME DELETED

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      Matt in FL
      February 11, 2014

      Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

      There has been a serious lack of decorum around here lately, and it’s not going to continue. Do not flame other commenters, the site, or the authors. It’s that simple. If you can’t abide by that, scuttle back off to Facebook.

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    SilentSecessionist
    February 12, 2014

    I handled both the G42 and the R51 extensively at SHOT, And considering the OVERLY critical R51 review, and the overly generous G42 review, I don’t think I can comfortably trust TTAG’s firearm reviews anymore.

    Or I suppose it could just be that our hands and aesthetic appreciation are so different as to denote us as different SPECIES. But really I get the feel by what you’ve written that it’s a matter of Bias. just comes off that way.

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    Barstow Cowboy
    February 12, 2014

    Next time hire a hand model to stand in for you.

  37. avatar
    David L.
    February 20, 2014

    I like Glocks, but I don’t love them. I own a 27 that I like to shoot (and it has never failed to go bang), and I bought a 42 that runs just like described in the review. It will not fire the Barnes 80 gr. (at least not more then once). It will fire most everything else (had some issues with Buffalo Bore), but then so will my 30 year old Colt Government .380 (which DOES fire the Barnes) If the new model 42 had been a Taurus, Kel Tec, Ruger, Colt or Springfield, I do not believe that it would have received such a gracious review. When most .380s on the market will eat anything you feed them, why are we making excuses for the Glock? If I can always be sure to have enough ammo with me that the 42 likes, then I won’t have a problem. But what if I can only get the stuff it won’t eat? Since there are so many guns out there that are omnibalistic, why own one that is a fussy eater. Now don’t get me wrong, I like the 42 and when it goes bang, it is easy to shoot and very accurate. I even gave Glock a chance to “fix” my 42 and sent it back to them with the complaint that it will not fire the Barnes. 3 weeks later I got it back and it is still a single shot when I put the Barnes in it. So for now, I’m going to keep carrying my old Colt. Maybe when my 42 is 30 years old, it will be as reliable.

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    Gregg W.
    February 21, 2014

    Hornady Critical Deffence was diffinitley not in Shooting the Bulls top five. It seriously under penetrated in bare gel and did so so in the denim test. You may have it confused with Hornady Custom. I would really recommend not carry critical defense in 380 from the tests I’ve seen.

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    Glen Taylor
    March 1, 2014

    I’ll buy one because the other 50 pistols in my gunsafe need another friend!! Can’t have too many guns. Cool pistol.

  40. avatar
    Cliff O’Neal
    March 8, 2014

    Just recently fired a G42 at out local police range and was very favorably impressed. It ran fine
    with a variety of ammo and is the softest shooting .380 I’ve ever fired. My name is on the waiting
    list!

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    Geno W.
    March 9, 2014

    Linking a bunch of cry babies forum commandos at firearmstalk.com is really irrelevant anyway. That forum is composed mostly of couch potatoes and airsoft kids trying to talk shop with the adults. I quit visiting that sight when one of their know-it-all mods (canebrake) decided to rewrite Ayoobs 10 Comandments for CCH and then sticky it himself. He advised tying people up with parachute cord after shooting them so they couldn’t get away and continuing to remain with the injured/deceased for the cops to arrive so you could act like you were reviving the person you just shot down with CPR while the cops were watching (among other retarded statements).

    The sad part was that maybe 3 people out of 20 pages of congratulatory grab-assery realized the idiocy and called him on it. Of course they were taunted and banned. They finally had to unpin it and delete it because they were losing sponsers and violating their own terms of service.

    As for the Glock 42. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. I had a chance to pick one up and did so because it meets the physical qualifications for my private club for our monthly small pistol marksmanship competition (rim-fire does not qualify). I also happen to carry and practice routinely with Glocks, so it gives me an advantage. It will never replace my G19, G17, M&P9, SR9, etc. for EDC; nor will it replace my Smith 442 as a deep concealment/running shorts BUG.

  42. avatar
    Daniel Casher
    March 22, 2014

    I love my 42 and as much as I hate to say it, I am carrying it more than my G19 and my Sig P938. I have shot a variety of 380 ammo out of it and it has failed to feed a few times, but this is out of around 1500 rounds, and the ammo I carry in it, Precision One 90gr XTP (4 rds) and Buffalo Bore 100gr HCFN standard pressure, (4 rds, I have a +1 mag extension from Galloway Precision) It has also fired Freedom Munitions 100gr perfectly, and that is the flat nose remanufactured ammo. Also, it fires Monarch, Winchester, and PMC with no problems. I have never cared for Hornady in 380, except maybe the Custom XTP. The only mod I have made to the pistol is to polish the feed ramp to a very slick sheen with a small dremel. I think many people underestimate the 380 and I do not. The main purpose of concealed carry is to be able to carry a pistol that is comfortable to conceal, and easy to shoot. To defend you at close range. Many people act as if we are going to war and need massive firepower on our hip. They act like the shots they shoot are the only defense they have. You can still fight back, even after you have shot someone and they are still attacking you. You can use the other hand to get into a position where you can put a round or two into the face or head or neck. I expect that if you pump a couple of rounds into the crotch or solar plexus area that will end the confrontation anyway. There are lots of fast bleeding arteries in the pelvic area and nerves and bones. A 380 loaded with good ammo is a very good self defense weapon. And the Glock 42 is the best 380 I’ve ever shot. I can’t wait till Fobus makes an Evolution holster for it.

  43. avatar
    Tom Mann
    March 23, 2014

    Their are glock, s&w, khar, ruger, 380, 9, 45 people that swear they choice is the very best and every other choice is wrong. Most buy their choice, never shoot, never practice, never clean, hardly ever carry & didn’t do their home work in their purchase. I like the choices and caliber options. Just like vehicles amd the accessories to go on them. My personal choice today is glock 45 with a s&w 38 chiefs special on the ankle & a flip blade in each pocket. Prepared notparanoid! And oh buy the way “F-250 super duty in case another idiot t bones me. (870 under seat)
    Just saying

  44. avatar
    Keith
    April 12, 2014

    I don’t know if anything will replace my colt gov model 380 but I bought a 42 today because I don’t want to ruin the colt we will see how it does

  45. avatar
    TGugs
    April 13, 2014

    After laboriously reading most of the posts…I forgot what I wanted to say….

    • avatar
      TGugs
      April 16, 2014

      Dirk Diggler …..nice…. regards Tiny Elvis…Git r done.

  46. avatar
    Glenn
    April 17, 2014

    Revisiting this post: My wife’s G42 has the same problems w/the slide locking back on some JHP’s & the Freedom Munitions RNFP’s. And… as your photos above show, the 42 you tested apparently has the “early” slide lock vs. the newer “rounded” slide lock mentioned on a GlockTalk thread here:

    http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21163932&postcount=2603

    Seems that Glock changed out the parts sometime between first runs & present mfg. – So, TTAG, how do we get Glock to send us the NEW part?

    And, FYI: The wife is now really liking the Glock 19 or my 30S; the 42 may be retired early!

  47. avatar
    Ron Jamin
    April 17, 2014

    Looks pretty cool. Love my Glock 23, best handgun I’ve ever owned. Like the small form-factor, might get one.

    Sorry, have to laugh at people bitching about .380. Trust me, its perfectly fine for what you want to do…..put some lead in the attacker, and the .380 is basically a 9MM short.

    Arguing about lethality for a small CCW is really a moot point when you practice and become proficient in firing the weapon.

    For instance, my favorite carry is my Beretta .22lr loaded with CCI Stingers…a true pocket-rocket. There is no urban thug or attacker that is going to keep coming at me when I start pumping the rounds into him. The loud pop will be the first clue, then the intense pain and blood loss, then more pain. Guarantee they either run or die on the spot. A .380 is worlds more powerful than the eminently effective .22LR and more than enough for the average CCW.

  48. avatar
    Kutter_0311
    April 24, 2014

    I see a lot of people griping about BS non-issues. This is a smaller-than-a-G27 pistol that shoots smooth, like my G35. Sounds like a solid answer for non-permissive environs. I plan to make this the family’s issued carry gun, who can give me bulk pricing?

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