Name That Gun: And Who Owned It Edition by Robert Farago | Oct 16, 2013 | 47 comments facebook twitter linkedin email IDing the make and model of this revolver isn’t going to present TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia with much of a challenge. It’s hardly an exotic firearms. The mystery here: who owned it? And once you’ve got that sorted, what other guns did he own? comments lolinski says: October 16, 2013 at 15:09 Some form of Schofield revolver, what model and who owned it I dont know. Reply Chris. says: October 16, 2013 at 15:10 The Schofield Kid obviously. Reply PeterC says: October 16, 2013 at 15:12 Is that the Iver Johnson .32 Automatic Safety revolver that Leon Czolgosz used to assassinate President William McKinley? Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 15:43 No, but you’re in the right ballpark. Reply BDub says: October 16, 2013 at 16:11 Sirhan Sirhan’s Iver 22? Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 16:34 Nope. Texas says: October 17, 2013 at 02:53 My first thought as well.. Reply Chris from Iowa says: October 16, 2013 at 15:12 Looks like an S&W Model 3. Wyatt Earp used one or more of these, not sure who else. My dad has one of the .44 Russian versions of these guns. Edit: I take that back. I think PeterC is correct. The grips weren’t right for a S&W and a little more digging pretty much confirmed it. Reply Nine says: October 16, 2013 at 15:16 Looks to me like a S&W Model 3, no ideawho owned it. I do see what appears to be a 7 scratched above the grip, that intrigues me. Reply I_Like_Pie says: October 16, 2013 at 15:17 Bird’s Head Iver Johnson. Owned by Maeda – Right before she goes to jail Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 15:43 Right gun. Reply BDub says: October 16, 2013 at 16:06 Leon Czolgsz Iver Johnson, used to assassinate Pres. William Mckinley. Edit: nevermind, just read the other post. Reply Jeh says: October 16, 2013 at 15:22 Mark Twain I believe. Reply DanRRZ says: October 16, 2013 at 15:23 Agreed on the Iver Johnson Safety Revolver. As far as owner, I’ll venture a guess Teddy Roosevelt probably added one of these to his collection as one directly lead to his presidency. Since you mentioned ‘other guns’ owned, TR seems like a logical guess as he had a vast collection. The most notable in my opinion was the Holland & Holland .500/.450 Double Rifle used in his expedition stocking the smithsonian. Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 15:44 There is a presidential connection. Reply Pat Carver says: October 16, 2013 at 22:40 I was just at the newly opened NRA museum in the Bass Pro shop in Springfield MO. They have on display TR’s Holland and Holland double rifle and his engraved, pearl handled Browning model 1900 White House bedside pistol. (Those were different times!). Reply Jesse says: October 16, 2013 at 15:30 The only somewhat famous person I know what owned Schoefields was Jesse James the outlaw. Reply Chris Hazelton says: October 16, 2013 at 15:34 I own an almost identical revolver, only it has a hidden hammer. I believe a gun like that was used by Jack Ruby to kill Lee Harvey Oswald. Is it Jack Ruby’s gun? Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 15:44 Soooooo close. Reply Irock350 says: October 16, 2013 at 15:34 Iver Johnson Safety Revolver, Owned by Leon Czolgosz. He used it to shoot President McKinley. Reply Al says: October 16, 2013 at 15:56 Yep, McKinley assassination. Iver Johnson Serial Number 463344 Reply Tommy Knocker says: October 16, 2013 at 15:43 An early model Armalite used by Alexander Hamilton in the charge up Pikes Peak against the Spanish. In full auto mode it provided devastating fire at the squad level. Currently classified as a crew served Class 4 device by the ATF. Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 18:30 Bingo! Reply Phil L says: October 16, 2013 at 15:44 I own a US Revolver clone of that basic design (I see only one or two details differences) in .22 LR. It’s so rough that I don’t trust firing it (I removed the firing pin, just to make sure). But it belonged to my grandfather – so in the safe it stays. Reply Itchy grundles says: October 16, 2013 at 15:52 Sirhan sirhan used a IJ cadet This is a first safety owned by lee Harvey Oswald Reply Larry says: October 16, 2013 at 15:54 Sirhan used an 8 shot .22. This pic doesn’t look to be a .22 or have an 8 round cylinder… Reply Robert Farago says: October 16, 2013 at 16:35 CORRECT! Give that man a cigar! Seriously, email your snail mail to firstname.lastname@example.org and I’ll send you a proper cigar. Itchy wins. As irock350 pointed out (too late) below, the gun was featured in a recent Daily Mail article on an upcoming auction of Oswald’s stuff. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461878/Lee-Harvey-Oswalds-Soviet-wedding-band-lost-50-years-set-auction-scores-rare-artifacts-linked-President-Kennedys-assassin.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Reply Sam says: October 16, 2013 at 15:53 That’d have to be property of Charles Guiteau used on president James Garfield. Reply Gregolas says: October 16, 2013 at 15:53 The Hopkins & Allen .44 spl. Leon Czolgesz(sp.) used to kill President Garfield? As to what other arms he owned, not a clue. Reply Adam says: October 16, 2013 at 15:54 Is this the revolver Lee Harvey Oswald owned and shot the Dallas Police man with? Edit: Nope. I looked it up. He had a snub nosed revolver Reply Itchy grundles says: October 16, 2013 at 15:58 Winner winner chicken dinner But not the gun he used to kill, just owned. Reply Adam says: October 16, 2013 at 16:08 OK So it was Oswalds gun, but not one he used. Reply Adam says: October 16, 2013 at 16:00 “Compared to iconic names like Smith & Wesson and Colt, Iver Johnson is not much more than a historical footnote except for very recently). However, if you’re going to be a footnote in U.S. arms manufacturing history, being an infamous one certainly makes things more interesting, a feat Iver Johnson achieved as a result of its revolvers being used to assassinate both President William McKinley in 1901 and Senator Robert Kennedy in 1968.” From http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/03/don-gammill-jr/gun-revieww-iver-johnson-32-sw/ Reply BDub says: October 16, 2013 at 16:36 Don’t forget the gun allegedly planted on/carried by Dillinger. Reply dq says: October 16, 2013 at 16:03 President James Garfield? Reply Irock350 says: October 16, 2013 at 16:04 Lee Harvey Oswald Iver Johnson First Model Safety Automatic Hammerless Top Break revolver http://www.coloradonewsday.com/national/22636-lee-harvey-oswald-s-soviet-wedding-band-lost-for-50-years-set-for-auction-along-with-scores-of-rare-artifacts-linked-to-president-kennedy-s-assassin.html#sthash.IeSLVwbB.dpuf Reply BDub says: October 16, 2013 at 16:20 I think you nailed it. Reply jwm says: October 16, 2013 at 17:33 Hammerless? I know my eyes aren’t as good as they once were but that revolver in the picture looks like it has a hammer. Reply LS/HD says: October 16, 2013 at 16:40 I don’t know all the guns he allegedly owned but he is supposed to have owned a Carcano Model 91/38. Reply Taro Tsujimoto says: October 16, 2013 at 17:45 He did. That’s what he used to kill Kennedy. Reply MrVigs says: October 16, 2013 at 19:46 Killed him with that superbullet he did. Killed him dead. Reply jwm says: October 16, 2013 at 19:49 Naw, just an ordinary bullet for an ordinary man. Bullets been getting the job done for centuries. Schizuki says: October 17, 2013 at 11:05 A single rifle bullet injuring two people? Inconceivable!!! jwm says: October 17, 2013 at 12:03 Could just be a myth, but years ago I heard of a single bullet wounding the same guy 7-8 times. Something to do with his body position and the surfaces he was against. Brian says: October 17, 2013 at 11:18 All of you are wrong! Its a Glock 7 ! Reply Dave says: October 17, 2013 at 14:38 i’m not so sure, that doesn’t look like its made out of porcelain 😉 Reply jwm says: October 17, 2013 at 14:49 And it sure don’t look like it costs more than I make in a month. Reply Write a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment Name * Email * Website Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.