Name That Gun: And Who Owned It Edition

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IDing the make and model of this revolver isn’t going to present TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia with much of a challenge. It’s hardly an exotic firearms. The mystery here: who owned it? And once you’ve got that sorted, what other guns did he own?

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  1. avatar lolinski says:

    Some form of Schofield revolver, what model and who owned it I dont know.

    1. avatar Chris. says:

      The Schofield Kid obviously.

  2. avatar PeterC says:

    Is that the Iver Johnson .32 Automatic Safety revolver that Leon Czolgosz used to assassinate President William McKinley?

    1. avatar Robert Farago says:

      No, but you’re in the right ballpark.

      1. avatar BDub says:

        Sirhan Sirhan’s Iver 22?

        1. avatar Robert Farago says:

          Nope.

    2. avatar Texas says:

      My first thought as well..

  3. avatar Chris from Iowa says:

    Looks like an S&W Model 3. Wyatt Earp used one or more of these, not sure who else.

    My dad has one of the .44 Russian versions of these guns.

    Edit: I take that back. I think PeterC is correct. The grips weren’t right for a S&W and a little more digging pretty much confirmed it.

  4. avatar Nine says:

    Looks to me like a S&W Model 3, no ideawho owned it.

    I do see what appears to be a 7 scratched above the grip, that intrigues me.

  5. avatar I_Like_Pie says:

    Bird’s Head Iver Johnson.

    Owned by Maeda – Right before she goes to jail

    1. avatar Robert Farago says:

      Right gun.

      1. avatar BDub says:

        Leon Czolgsz Iver Johnson, used to assassinate Pres. William Mckinley.

        Edit: nevermind, just read the other post.

  6. avatar Jeh says:

    Mark Twain I believe.

  7. avatar DanRRZ says:

    Agreed on the Iver Johnson Safety Revolver.

    As far as owner, I’ll venture a guess Teddy Roosevelt probably added one of these to his collection as one directly lead to his presidency.

    Since you mentioned ‘other guns’ owned, TR seems like a logical guess as he had a vast collection. The most notable in my opinion was the Holland & Holland .500/.450 Double Rifle used in his expedition stocking the smithsonian.

    1. avatar Robert Farago says:

      There is a presidential connection.

    2. avatar Pat Carver says:

      I was just at the newly opened NRA museum in the Bass Pro shop in Springfield MO. They have on display TR’s Holland and Holland double rifle and his engraved, pearl handled Browning model 1900 White House bedside pistol. (Those were different times!).

  8. avatar Jesse says:

    The only somewhat famous person I know what owned Schoefields was Jesse James the outlaw.

  9. I own an almost identical revolver, only it has a hidden hammer. I believe a gun like that was used by Jack Ruby to kill Lee Harvey Oswald. Is it Jack Ruby’s gun?

    1. avatar Robert Farago says:

      Soooooo close.

  10. avatar Irock350 says:

    Iver Johnson Safety Revolver, Owned by Leon Czolgosz. He used it to shoot President McKinley.

    1. avatar Al says:

      Yep, McKinley assassination. Iver Johnson Serial Number 463344

  11. avatar Tommy Knocker says:

    An early model Armalite used by Alexander Hamilton in the charge up Pikes Peak against the Spanish. In full auto mode it provided devastating fire at the squad level. Currently classified as a crew served Class 4 device by the ATF.

  12. avatar Phil L says:

    I own a US Revolver clone of that basic design (I see only one or two details differences) in .22 LR. It’s so rough that I don’t trust firing it (I removed the firing pin, just to make sure). But it belonged to my grandfather – so in the safe it stays.

  13. avatar Itchy grundles says:

    Sirhan sirhan used a
    IJ cadet

    This is a first safety owned by lee Harvey Oswald

    1. avatar Larry says:

      Sirhan used an 8 shot .22. This pic doesn’t look to be a .22 or have an 8 round cylinder…

    2. avatar Robert Farago says:

      CORRECT! Give that man a cigar! Seriously, email your snail mail to guntruth@me.com and I’ll send you a proper cigar.

      Itchy wins. As irock350 pointed out (too late) below, the gun was featured in a recent Daily Mail article on an upcoming auction of Oswald’s stuff.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461878/Lee-Harvey-Oswalds-Soviet-wedding-band-lost-50-years-set-auction-scores-rare-artifacts-linked-President-Kennedys-assassin.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

  14. avatar Sam says:

    That’d have to be property of Charles Guiteau used on president James Garfield.

  15. avatar Gregolas says:

    The Hopkins & Allen .44 spl. Leon Czolgesz(sp.) used to kill President Garfield?
    As to what other arms he owned, not a clue.

  16. avatar Adam says:

    Is this the revolver Lee Harvey Oswald owned and shot the Dallas Police man with?

    Edit: Nope. I looked it up. He had a snub nosed revolver

    1. avatar Itchy grundles says:

      Winner winner chicken dinner
      But not the gun he used to kill, just owned.

    2. avatar Adam says:

      OK So it was Oswalds gun, but not one he used.

  17. avatar Adam says:

    “Compared to iconic names like Smith & Wesson and Colt, Iver Johnson is not much more than a historical footnote except for very recently). However, if you’re going to be a footnote in U.S. arms manufacturing history, being an infamous one certainly makes things more interesting, a feat Iver Johnson achieved as a result of its revolvers being used to assassinate both President William McKinley in 1901 and Senator Robert Kennedy in 1968.”

    From http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/03/don-gammill-jr/gun-revieww-iver-johnson-32-sw/

    1. avatar BDub says:

      Don’t forget the gun allegedly planted on/carried by Dillinger.

  18. avatar dq says:

    President James Garfield?

    1. avatar BDub says:

      I think you nailed it.

    2. avatar jwm says:

      Hammerless? I know my eyes aren’t as good as they once were but that revolver in the picture looks like it has a hammer.

  19. avatar LS/HD says:

    I don’t know all the guns he allegedly owned but he is supposed to have owned a Carcano Model 91/38.

    1. avatar Taro Tsujimoto says:

      He did. That’s what he used to kill Kennedy.

      1. avatar MrVigs says:

        Killed him with that superbullet he did. Killed him dead.

        1. avatar jwm says:

          Naw, just an ordinary bullet for an ordinary man. Bullets been getting the job done for centuries.

        2. avatar Schizuki says:

          A single rifle bullet injuring two people? Inconceivable!!!

        3. avatar jwm says:

          Could just be a myth, but years ago I heard of a single bullet wounding the same guy 7-8 times. Something to do with his body position and the surfaces he was against.

  20. avatar Brian says:

    All of you are wrong! Its a Glock 7 !

    1. avatar Dave says:

      i’m not so sure, that doesn’t look like its made out of porcelain 😉

      1. avatar jwm says:

        And it sure don’t look like it costs more than I make in a month.

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