Weekend Digest: Completely Inappropriate Everywhere Edition

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A electrician running cable as part of a renovation at JFK Airport’s Terminal One found a MAC-11 machine pistol hidden above the ceiling of a maintenance closet on Thursday. The gun, which WABC news 7online breathlessly reports is well known for its ability to discharge its 32 round magazine in “less than two seconds,” was found in a case outside the terminal’s secure area. There was no ammo found in or near the gun . . .

nor was there any indication of who secreted the gun there or when. Port Authority police were immediately called into investigate but are “not even slightly” concerned that this is part of some plot.


Mr. Colion Noir talks about Mother’s Day in New Orleans, and urban gun violence. Why don’t we hear more about that?

“I’m a strong supporter of the second amendment. I’m a hunter. I own guns. I’ve gone through background checks. They take just a couple minutes. We have a gigantic loophole in Virginia, you can buy guns through mail order. You can go to these gun show loopholes.” -Virginia Gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe (at YouTube)

MAIG sent out an email blast recently hyping their forthcoming analysis of mass shootings in the U.S., and I’m having a little trouble with their math, or at least their priorities. MAIG’s focus, to the exclusion of almost all else, is on military-style assault weapons or high-capacity magazines, but the numbers seem to show that’s not where the fight should be. They (correctly) say that “mass shootings represent a small share of total U.S. firearm homicides. Less than 1 percent of gun murder victims recorded by the FBI in 2010 were killed in incidents with four or more victims.” They go on to say that “military-style assault weapons or high-capacity magazines were used in at least 15 percent of the incidents.” So if military-style assault weapons and hi-cap mags are used in only 0.15 of total mass-shooting homicides, why do they hate them so hard?

And the hits just keep on coming. Hot on the heels of the lawsuit filed last Thursday by the Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore, et al., which targeted restrictions on black rifles and hi-cap mags, comes news of another lawsuit, filed Friday in the same state. The new lawsuit, brought by a collection of gun stores, gun associations and gun buyers with pending applications, argues that Maryland State Police are not ready to process the license applications quickly. That would subject citizens to an outright, indefinite ban on handgun purchases, they contend — a violation of their Second Amendment rights. An emergency hearing on the first case is scheduled for early next week. Watch this space.

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Because it’s the weekend, here’s a video from the archives, CarniK Con settling the 9mm vs .45 debate once and for all (for this week). Stay to the end for the gag reel.

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  1. avatar Jus Bill says:

    WRT the Formerly Free State, Maryland and the two cases – watch Bloomberg money come flying into town along NYC-written “amicus briefs” in 5… 4… 3…

  2. avatar Mike says:

    You know there’s some former JFK airport employee slapping himself now saying, “Dang! THAT’S where I left it!”

    1. avatar jwm says:

      Shouldn’t this be an issue for Lost and Found, not the police?

    2. avatar g says:

      Maybe it’s for rats. Those mean b@stards get big and menacing…

      1. avatar jwm says:

        Rats and roaches I can tell you about. Custodial staff at a public high school for more than 20 years.

        1. avatar Jahead1982 says:

          Seen a few I would even hesitate to shoot with a .44, them critters just too big and mean, and at such close range wounded animals are dangerous!

    3. avatar dook says:

      I wish I could find a forgotten Mac11 in a closet. That would make my decade 😀

  3. avatar Bob says:

    What does Terry McAuliffe’s voting record say? I bet it does not say that he is a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

    1. avatar dale says:

      “What does Terry McAuliffe’s voting record say? I bet it does not say that he is a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment.”

      He’s not.

    2. avatar ropingdown says:

      His record says he loves to cut corners, marry rich and leverage it, and look out for number one, him. This is pretty standard US politics. He is, in short, Kerry’s kind of guy. Gun rights? People with guns that don’t agree with him? Nah. “The 2nd Am doesn’t mean that!. It means you can have a gun if I say so, and only when I say you can check it out of the armory.” Clinton agrees. Most of Wall Street agrees. They, collectively, are King George and the House of Lords. For the moment.

    3. avatar tdiinva says:

      His claims to being a gun owner are legit. I know where he buys his guns. Even if Terry McAullife got the NRA endorsement he would still be a corrupt bastard who seeks office with the sole goal of looting the State of Virginia for himself, the Clintons and his cronies. He is associated with numerous corruption cases and his current “business” appears to be :EV business designed to get payoffs from foreigners for work visas. He is aiming to be the Rod Blagojevich of Virginia.

      He is probably going to win because women are irrational and he is exploiting Ken Cuccinelli’s position on abortion. The only ads McCauliffe runs are about Cuccinelli’s positions on abortion. It gives the impression that all Cuccinelli talks about are social issues. Ken Cuccinelli has not mentioned abortion once during the campaign. He is running on Virginia issues. I always ask the following to questions:

      Can a Governor Cuccinelli unilaterally ban abortion (no)
      Can a Governor McCauliffe turn Virginia into New Jersey or Illinois (yes)

      The I ask how can you vote for someone who can do something you don’t want over someone who can’t change what you do want?

      There is more things wrong with the 19th Amendment than the Volstead Act.

  4. avatar ErrantVenture11 says:

    I live in Michigan but was born and raised in Maryland, and I’m really hoping for positive progress in beating back O’Malley’s anti-gun push. I wasn’t in a hurry to move back there before all that junk got passed, but now I’m dead set against it.

    It is always a pain to my heart to drive through OH and PA on the way to visit family as a free citizen, only to lock up my stuff at the last rest stop before the state line. Heck, all the new laws passed there make me a criminal just for entering the state with a weapon now if I’m not mistaken…

  5. avatar Christian says:

    ..am I the only one sort of interested in that gaston e-training?

    As a relatively poor and inexperienced handgunner I like the idea of being able to improve my skills so my range time is better spent.

    What say the intelligentsia? Gimmick, or legitimate training tool I should spend 20 bucks on?

    1. avatar KAT says:

      I’m something of a tech whore, especially anything gun/shooting related, already ordered it on USB
      For 20 bucks, what the heck. I have books, DVDs, saved articles. All have improved my shooting accuracy by learning I used too much finger on the trigger (learned that from; TroubleShooting by Gabby Franco’s book. Had sister-in-law’s cousin correct my sighting. All helped so much that at last range time with ladies shooting league, lots of comments from the other ladies “wow your groups are so much better” It is a learning process

    2. avatar peirsonb says:

      Cutting through all the marketing, it sounds like a video game. There are at least a couple different studies out there that show that video games improve hand-eye coordination. I would have to assume that if a pure entertainment game helps then a game designed for it would almost be guaranteed to work.

      Just don’t tell the rapid anti-video game crowd. Vidya games are bad, M-Kay?

      1. avatar Kelly in GA says:

        I think I read another one a few years back that said people who play those EEEVIL FPS games are less likely to freeze in a SHTF scenario and navigate said scenarios with a higher level of situational awareness. They are also supposedly able to process information and react quicker, too.

    3. avatar Patrick says:

      Has anyone been able to download it? Where is the download page?

  6. avatar In Memphis says:

    I love the argument that background checks only take a couple of minutes. Either youre a crimminal, have a past record or not. This isnt NCIS where the bad guy doesnt have a history in the US so lets check interpol and every country hes ever been too.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      I just liked the condescending nature of the entire statement.

      1. avatar In Memphis says:

        Funny thing. How condescending the other side is. And how celebrities and others on their side want us dead and any other harsh things they conjure up. They make the threats and have the atitude but we are the evil ones.

        1. avatar Jay1987 says:

          Yep didn’t you see the poster the other day??? Gun owners eat babies… and they are delicious (sarc)

    2. avatar Mark N. says:

      Here, let me introduce you to Kamala Harris, AG of the Great State of California. Califonia has, by statute, 10 days to clear your background (and no, it does not use NICS, but its own data base). Ever since she was elected, there has been a sudden increase in the number of approvals delayed, in some cases over a year, where the DOJ has been unable to establish dispositions for prior–in many cases many years prior–arrests. Gun owners who have purchased multiple weapons have suddeny found themselves delayed or denied, imposing upon the buyer the burden of proof of innocence, i.e., presentation of proof that they are NOT prohibited, rather than the state being required to prove that they are disqualified.

      Oh, and here’s the kicker. Under a recent rules proposal, the DOJ wants to THIRTY DAYS to process background checks. And if there is any question as to one’s qualification, the delay can be indefinite.

      Freedom is not just a phone all away.

  7. avatar Frank Masotti says:

    The first 2 videos we interesting. The third video the 45ACP vrs the 9MM must have been done by a gun grabber group. Because that’s about how they all see us. While I know it was meant to be funny. The problem is that is how we are all seen.

  8. avatar Steve Ramsey says:

    If that’s the actual gun, it looks like the closed bolt semi-auto to me.

    1. avatar Jay1987 says:

      Don’t matter it still gets ms fussy britches msm all outta breath and flustered on top of her already being flustered and havin the vapors for “that intriguing rogue who wants to be free.” Sorry if that sounded somewhat like Sigmund Freud.

    2. avatar Matt in FL says:

      I have no reason to believe that’s not the actual gun found. Does the MAC-11 full auto version fire from an open bolt?

      If that’s actually semi-auto, someone should let that news station know, as it’s unusual for the media to broadcast inaccurate (and potentially inflammatory) information, and I’m sure they’ll want to fix it.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        The MAC11 is the full auto, .380 version of the 9mm MAC10. It fires from the open bolt and had an obscenely high rate of fire that made it practically useless in a real world scenario.

        1. avatar Craig says:

          I don’t know, I think I could find a purpose for a .380ACP machine pistol with a nice and high rate of fire. Destroying very large pumpkins would be a season-appropriate purpose…

        2. avatar CA.Ben says:

          Not necessarily. Many of the MACs that you find today aren’t actually MACs, but rather Cobray clones from the 80’s. They made MAC 11’s in 380 and 9×19 (MAC 11/9). These guns were also made in both semi and full auto configurations, of which the semi-auto fires from the closed bolt. I have a relative who has a Cobray MAC 11/9 that I have become quite familiar with. It’s a fun gun, semi-automatic, closed bolt, and not exactly a tackdriver.

          Furthermore, the roll stamp on the upper right hand side of the receiver looks to me like a Cobray logo. And the magazine it was found with is a 16 round magazine, not 32 round. I also see a safety selector, but not a giggle switch.

          I would be willing to put money on the fact that this is a semi-auto, 80’s Cobray M11/9. And the media is, like usual, hyping it up because OHMYGODSCARYGUNS!

        3. avatar DJ9 says:

          I’m with CA.Ben on this. All full-auto versions should have a sliding safety on the receiver, inside the trigger guard (accessible by the trigger finger), and the rotating selector switch is positioned on the left side of the weapon. Semi-auto pistol versions had a rotating safety on the right side, as does the weapon pictured in the report.

          Retractable stock is also missing (as said by Jeff, below), although it might be removable. However, the stock locking mechanism (button under the rear edge of the receiver) would probably still be in place and visible even if the stock had been removed.

      2. avatar peirsonb says:

        I see what you did there….

    3. avatar Jeff says:

      I was under the impression that if a MAC is NFA, it’s probably going to have the folding buttstock. This doesn’t – looks like the civvy version.

  9. avatar Moses Browning says:

    The article asks “why do they (MAIG and ban-ners) hate them (military style ‘assault weapons’) so hard?
    It’s like “why do you rob banks” “because that’s where the money is.
    Only in this case the gun-grabbers’ desired currency is that:
    The term assault weapons is misunderstood as if their purpose is assault. I wish that the originator of ‘sturmgewehr’ as a word had never walked the face of the earth.
    They are easy for the media and antis to make them look scary.
    They are a potential point of division, or so the grabbers hope, within the shootimg community (ban those ugly things and keep your deer rifles) (anyone want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?) as a beachhead and place to start momentum and normalization of ever deepening and broadening bans.
    I’m not anti A.W.; I owned none 5 years ago and own scads now. The good ones are fine and fascinating devices. Consider me radicalized, and it’s Pelosi and friends that first caused me to look with curiosity at any A.W. How’s that for unintended consequences? And I am sure that I am not alone… I vote and I litigate..

    1. avatar Hal says:

      Unintended Consequences. Indeed.

  10. avatar C says:

    Freedom America Ale. If you don’t like it you can go to hell!
    My favorite Carnik Con so far.
    The proper response to finding a Mac11 in a drop ceiling is to quietly tuck it under your shirt and walk it calmly to your car.

  11. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    So criminals used semi-auto rifles to murder people in just 0.15% of all murders where the criminal used a firearm for the murder weapon.

    And that is where so many gun grabbers focus their efforts. Why?

    1. avatar LongPurple says:

      The gungrabbers see “assault rifles”, conflated to include anything that isn’t a single-shot firearm, as an easy target, based on the public’s ignorance of guns.

      From the Violence Policy Center website:

      “The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons.”

  12. avatar Not So 1337 says:

    “Which one was that?”
    “It doesn’t matter anymore nobody cares.”

    I feel like that’s where most of us have gone concerning the .45 vs 9mm debate.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      That was one of the best parts of the video, for sure.

  13. avatar Julian says:

    Man, I never find good stuff!

    1. avatar Mamba says:

      Get a job with the TSA. They find other people’s stuff all the time…and often steal it.

  14. avatar peirsonb says:

    Isn’t 0.15% being a lot generous?

    If I remember right (it’s early and I’m on a smartphone so I apologize for lack of fact checking) don’t the FBI numbers state that rifles are involved in around 0.004% of all firearm related deaths?

    Wouldn’t that make:

    1) MAIG STILL bending stats to their goal and

    2) the actual number really, incredibly small? Like my odds of being double sided tape guy at Miss America?

    1. avatar Chaotic Good says:

      According to the FBI it’s more like 4%, how many of those are AR or AK type rifles is anyone’s guess.

  15. avatar dwb says:

    if they are impressed with a gun that can empty a magazine in 2 secs, i guess they have never seen Jerry Miculek.

    1. avatar IdahoPete says:

      Love it! Empty and reload!

  16. avatar Hal says:

    “So if military-style assault weapons and hi-cap mags are used in only 0.15 of total mass-shooting homicides, why do they hate them so hard?”

    Because arms that are even vaguely comensurate with the infantry technology of the day has always caused totalitarian wannabes to shit themselves.

    1. avatar ensitue says:

      Bingo!

  17. avatar IdahoPete says:

    I read stories like this, and stories about people finding a handgun left in a restroom stall (usually by a cop), and I think “how come I never find neat stuff like that?”

  18. avatar ensitue says:

    Left over from Die Hard #1?
    I’d be interested in seeing where the ser.# leads on this one and if it actually was a FA gun

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