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Reader Drew W. writes:

Hey guys, I’ve been a long time reader a huge fan on the site. It’s a shame the direction that a lot of slave states are going with the multitude of gun laws that are successfully and idiotically being passed. But I’m here to shine a light on a state doing it right — Good ol’ North Carolina. When a lot of states are going backwards, NC is going forward . . .

Gov. McCrory signed House Bill 937 into law today. It may not seem like a big deal to some states, but to us North Carolinians, it’s a big deal. It seems like the most pro-gun bill that’s been passed recently. It’s refreshing to see that our state has taken something good away from Aurora and Newtown by letting legally license CHP holders to carry in places that charge admission (movie theaters) and also allows for carrying in your car on school property.

If these laws had been enacted in Colorado and Connecticut at the time of their tragic shootings, maybe someone would have been able to intervene. And I’d just like to point out, as a 22 year old college student, I’m extremely pleased that I can now carry on campus and leave my gun securely locked in my car, carry into a movie theater, restaurant, or a damn state park if I so chose.

Anyway, I’d just like to let you guys know about the just just in case you didn’t already. Here are the provisions of the law that will go into effect Oct. 1, 2013:

  • Allows Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) holders to lawfully carry their personal protection firearm into a restaurant that serves alcohol, provided they do not consume alcohol.
  • Removes the prohibition on CHP holders from carrying into a place where tickets are sold for admission.
  • Fixes the problem of anti-gun localities overstepping their authority regarding restricting CHP holders from carrying firearms into locally controlled parks.
  • Allows CHP holders to transport their personal protection handguns in their motor vehicle while on all school property, as well as allow them to store those handguns in their locked vehicles while parked on school property.
  • Ensures the privacy of CHP holders by allowing access to the database of permittees only for law enforcement purposes.
  • Removes the prohibition on CHP holders carrying their personal protection firearms during a parade or funeral.
  • Brings North Carolina in compliance with the standards set forth in the federal NICS Improvement Amendments Act (NIAA) of 2007—a critical mental health reform.
  • Removes the prohibition on using firearms with sound suppressing devices while otherwise lawfully hunting game.

Really hoping you guys could do an article on this and maybe it will encourage readers from other states to get out and contact their representatives.

Thanks,
Drew

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41 Responses to Everything’s Getting Better in North Carolina

  1. Thanks for some positive news! Wow. I didn’t realize you couldn’t carry into a movie theater or museum. Insanity. My family and I vacation at the Outer Banks every summer, so I’m happy to be able to carry as I would in my home state of Virginia. We got rid of the “restaurants that serve alcohol” prohibition (“guns in bars,” as the critics like to call it) a few years ago. Still working on allowing concealed carry on state college campuses. Enjoy your restored freedoms.

  2. Should also be mentioned the new law also allows a firearm in a locked vehicle on any State property. For those that work for the State of NC or conduct regular business onsite with a State Agency, you may now legally have a firearm locked inside the vehicle on State grounds – starting Oct 1st. Until then, keep your mouths shut about what you have inside your vehicle, which you should do anyway.

    • Yes. You famously law abiding gun nuts should stay quiet about the guns you are now illegally concealing in your cars and on your person.

      • John,

        I have never argued that armed citizens are famously law abiding. With hundreds of thousands of laws on the books, everyone breaks some law or another every day. Thus, these days no one is “law abiding”.

        However, it is a FACT that armed citizens are famously NOT harming other citizens. Remember, something like 80 million adults — or about 1 out of every 4 people — own firearms. If owning a firearm made a person dangerous, everyone would be dead or in the hospital.

        Rather than berating a group of people, try researching FACTS from original sources like the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the United States Justice Department, and the Centers For Disease Control. What you will find is that gangs and drug dealers are responsible for about 80% to 90% of all violent crimes. And hardened, violent criminals with violent criminal records who are no longer in prison are responsible for almost all the rest of the violent crimes that we cannot attribute to gangs and drug dealers. That means you don’t have to worry about fellow citizens who happen to own firearms because they are not dangerous unless you try to harm them.

  3. It’s a rough road ahead, but taking the govt away from the democrats was a major step in the right direction. Pay no mind to Swarf, NC has made some major tax and abortion reforms in this last legislative session. It was sad to see this great state five years ago (especially given our neighbor SC being so sensible and profitable), but now NC is on the up-and-up!

    • Yep… And cut education budget so much we can’t even educate kids anymore! This is exactly what the Republican Party wanted in NC….. To keep their voters so stupid and scared that they can stay in power… Well seems to be working!

  4. We have also been getting some really good personal and corporate income tax relief in N.C. lately. Cha-ching-Ye$!

  5. This is really good news, but it wouldn’t address the big problem of campus shootings. Having your gun securely locked in your car is not much better than not having it at all. If you can make it out to your car, you might as well get off campus. It would be fairly crazy to get to the car, grab the gun and then go back in hunting for the bad guy. Your chances of getting shot by a police officer responding to the scene is fairly high. Still, it is progress.

    • It’s an incremental step, and it’s also a convenience issue in that you can have a CCW going to and from campus. Before, if at any point on your trip you were going to be on a campus, legally, the gat had to stay at home, even if you were going to be out and about for hours before or after.

  6. After Bev Perdue wrecked the budget and put all kinds of social welfare in place, this is hardly something that makes NC a bastion of liberty and freedom. NC is fast becoming a tax and spend hell, and McCrory is not showing much resolve to undo it.

  7. Wonder what the anti’s are going to cling to (fabricate) once crime does not go through the roof after passage?

    • Which it never has done before; quite the opposite. But they already know that. It’s just senseless posturing.

  8. I live about 5 minutes from the NC-SC border and NC will now be getting my business. SC still keeps refusing to lift our ban on carrying in restaurants that serve alcohol. Newsflash, I can’t drink when I’m carrying so chances are if I were going to drink I’d also be doing it in a restaurant ignoring the laws already.

    But I’ll give the Chili’s in Gastonia, NC my money now instead of the one in Rock Hill, SC.

  9. Add did you know that in NC we could already carry in church and banks (but I would not advise open carry here 🙂

  10. What was not mentioned as a precursor to this law change is that North Carolina has been run into the ground for the last 100+ years by libturd control. Only in the last election did North Carolina vote out the libturds from all three elements of government and making great strides. We are finally no longer burdened with libturd law but getting rid of them or changing them. Our state leadership is rewriting everything, in addition to the progun stance they dropped unemployment benefits back (to pay off the state debt to the federal gov.), reduced welfare entitlement, reduced individual taxes, and numerous other changes. The libturds are losing their minds over it. We North Carolinians are just hoping that it will force the generations of moochers who have migrated to NC for the excessive freebies will LEAVE.

    • Oh yes. They seem to be especially concerned about rewriting the election laws to exclude the rabble, to ensure that the win sticks around.

    • That was supposed to be in the bill but the sheriff’s association cried foul. They didn’t want to lose that easy money. Bastards.

  11. If these laws had been enacted in Colorado and Connecticut at the time of their tragic shootings, maybe someone would have been able to intervene.

    Most (if not all) of those are already the law in CO …

    ■Allows Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP) holders to lawfully carry their personal protection firearm into a restaurant that serves alcohol, provided they do not consume alcohol.
    CO prohibits neither. CO doesn’t even have an explicit prohibition on consuming alcohol while carrying. You just can’t be “under the influence”. CRS 18-12-106
    ■Removes the prohibition on CHP holders from carrying into a place where tickets are sold for admission.
    No such prohibition in CO.
    ■Fixes the problem of anti-gun localities overstepping their authority regarding restricting CHP holders from carrying firearms into locally controlled parks.
    As long as it’s concealed, CO state law already preempts such prohibitions.
    ■Allows CHP holders to transport their personal protection handguns in their motor vehicle while on all school property, as well as allow them to store those handguns in their locked vehicles while parked on school property.
    Expressly permitted by statute in CO. CRS 18-12-214 (3)(a).
    ■Removes the prohibition on CHP holders carrying their personal protection firearms during a parade or funeral.
    No such prohibition in CO.

    CRS 18-12-214 pretty much tells you where you can and cannot carry concealed in CO. “Can” is “in all areas of the state”; “cannot” is “except as specifically limited in this section”.

    • Yeah, for being so pro-gun, a lot of southern states have some pretty strict gun restrictions, including permits/registration to own a gun (a legacy of Jim Crow), restrictions on open carry, and restrictions on where you can carry.
      If you want to experience real gun freedom, leave NC and head out west (except CA, HI, and CO–but CO will probably get things fixed in a year or two).

      • CO, recent silliness notwithstanding, is still more “gun friendly” than a lot of other states that are often touted as pro-2A environments (*cough* Texas *cough*).

        Open carry, no “30.06” -type law, bars, hospitals, sporting events, amusement parks, churches, etc.

    • Thanks Don for all of the links. I’m still getting the hang of CO laws, but so far it looks a lot simpler than MN. I just wish the CCW app. didn’t cost $150… Looking forward to seeing how the recalls turn out, though!

      • CO concealed carry law is really simple:
        * Don’t carry outside of your vehicle on school property.
        * Don’t carry while under the influence (better: don’t drink if you’re going to carry).
        * Don’t carry into any building where there is a permanent security checkpoint at every public entrance, where you’re electronically screened for weapons.
        * Don’t carry where it’s prohibited by federal law.
        * [optional] If you want to respect private property rights, don’t carry where there’s a “no guns” sign. If you do and are asked to leave, leave (otherwise, you might get a citation for trespassing).

        Otherwise, carry everywhere*.

        *Concealed carry with a permit. Don’t open carry in the City and County of Denver. That one jurisdiction won themselves an exemption from the state’s preemption.

        • Nice. This lines up with pretty much what I’ve been hearing. In MN, signs (when properly formatted) carry weight of law. I kinda like that that isn’t the case here.

          I’ll admit that maybe I’m being callous re: personal property rights, but…if you’re concealing properly, no one’s gonna know. And I wonder if the tragedy in Aurora could have turned out differently.

          Please don’t think I’m being “gung-ho” about things…I’m just still forming my own personal philosophy on life in many areas…

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