Sons of Guns Season Finale: Is That It? Please?

“In this season finale, Will is asked to build a sniper rifle [from a Remington 700 Bolt Action Rifle] for the [local] sheriff but Red Jacket Firearms (RJF) isn’t the only shop in the running.” Ya think? The 700 platform is to custom rifle makers what the ’55 Chevy is to hot rod shops. GA Precision, Venom Tactical, Utah Rifle, Red Hawk Rifles, Superior Tactical build mighty fine long-range rifles based on the venerable Remmy action. Not to mention everyone else. Or the fact that Remington sells seven different 700-based police sniper rifles. Anyway, “The contract and prides are at risk, when a key part doesn’t arrive on time.” The plot? Authenticity? An interesting character? I can hardly wait. But then I have for some time now.

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  1. avatar Bill says:

    This show is to the firearms industry is what James Yeager is to the shooting community.

  2. avatar Daniel Raidt says:

    A reality show based in non reality, Scripted like 98% of them , In actuality if your looking for an evenings temporary escape from reality them this will fill the bill, just entertainment.

  3. avatar Ralph says:

    A sniper rifle built up on a Remmy 700 action? Nehva bin done befo!

    1. avatar CyborgCowboy says:

      Let’s see ’em build one out of a Sigma, then I’ll be impressed.

      1. avatar Swen says:

        Let’s see take care of all those 10/22 bullpup backorders!

      2. avatar Will says:

        What’s wrong with that? I can cut the same hole in a page at 200 yds with my Sigma. Oh… Wait…

      3. avatar Will W says:

        What’s wrong with that? I can cut the same hole in a page at 200 yards with my Sigma. Oh… Wait…

    2. avatar Leo338 says:

      Heck, they are so bad ass I heard they plan on building a sniper rifle built on a Mossberg 500 pump action. Will is still trying to decide if he should use birdshot or rifled slugs for the test.

    3. avatar Will says:

      Yup… Nevah bean dun beefuh….. the SR-8 was never based on the 700 platform. Of course the SR-8 never got beyond the prototype phase either, but still.

  4. avatar SCS says:

    It is impossible for me to watch stupid.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      So you never watched C-Span?

      1. avatar SCS says:

        I try not to, Ralph. I have a very short attention span as well as a hypersensitive bullshit-o-meter.

        1. avatar William says:

          So you forget what you got so upset about?

          Me too.

          See… all my adult life, my thing with TV has been YOU GOTTA PARTIPATE. You have to engage and talk back. Yell back. Makes no difference at all they can’t hear; this is about YOU, not them.

          But sometimes it seems it’s better to go yell at something else.

        2. avatar Rambeast says:

          @William. This is why I stopped watching TV years ago. Primarily, it was being advertized to, and lack of reciprocation. The internet allows for more than just vegging out and absorbing the crap they broadcast. Forums like this allow for a lot more. Here we can put out ideas and interact with people we would have never had contact with previously. Now the powers that be want to clamp down on this medium because there is too much freedom of expression.

  5. avatar Pyrotek85 says:

    Is there even much to add? I’m not familiar with them myself, but I’ve always heard they were pretty good even in stock configuration, just need to add good glass.

  6. avatar Avid Reader says:

    I stopped watching after the first few episodes. I recorded it so I could speed watch the shooting parts and skip the “drama”.

    I don’t miss it.

  7. avatar louringe3 says:

    Thank god I hope it is gone. You can’t cure stupid you build a for a customer and don’t allow enough time to test it???? I am a 1 man shop and a gun NEVER leaves my shop before it has been fired…… Anyone catch the blooper….. one minute it’s 300 Blackout and the next it’s 300 Whisper?????????

    1. avatar Pyrotek85 says:

      It was the same with American Chopper. Some company or wealthy individual commissions a $50k+ bike and they always need it done by next week. Like they just got this sudden urge to spend that much on a custom bike.

      1. avatar William says:

        You mean like the (cough, cough) United States Army?

  8. avatar Fred says:

    Every single time I’ve flipped through the channels and saw part of an episode of this show a “key part” is late or doesn’t show up or someone is late or doesn’t show up. Some bits get old but the same bit every single time? The first full episode I watched they built a piston AR for a gov’t contract and the rifle didn’t fire due to, you guessed it, a wrong part installed. The problem was caused by, you guessed it, someone that didn’t show up to work. They finally got the part in and fired one shot into an RV that exploded. Wow, what a test. I guess that’s why people think AR-15s are “high-powered rifles”, they can blow up anything you shoot at! For being such a huge contract, as they said it could “make or break” the shop, you’d think they’d put together more than one rifle.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      So that’s where Jesse Jackson got the idea that an AR was a death ray. He must watch this show.

      1. avatar Michael says:

        That would not suprise me

    2. avatar Matt in FL says:

      Well, at least from the point of the “key part” being late, in my experience, that’s how life often works. Especially when your available suppliers are limited, and you can’t just say, “Well, then get it from so-and-so.” Every industry I’ve ever been involved in, from construction to cars to guns to computers, has always had issues with the parts being late with astonishing regularity. That knife cuts the other way, though. They always present the parts being late as an “OMG” moment, when in reality, it happens so often that you either design the pipeline with that expectation in mind, or you just shrug it off.

      1. avatar LongBeach says:

        It’s like being shocked that you’re late for dinner cuz your lady takes too long getting ready EVERY TIME you go out. Plan for it or adapt.

  9. avatar Adam S. says:

    I had this conversation with my fiance as we were watching, and she had the better argument between us.

    She says, “It is a local sheriff, hiring the local business, to do local work, who can fix something locally, and give any support they might need quickly”. Keeping money and business local? I will agree with that.

    We are going to make a trip to visit the RJF shop today, and that made me want to ask:
    Does anyone watching outside of the Baton Rouge area, get the advertisement each commercial break for the actual storefront?

    1. avatar William says:

      No. Why would they? Watch out for Will, unless cameras are rolling.

      1. avatar Adam S. says:

        I was curious how far away they might advertise. New Orleans is only an hour away, and Lafayette is an hour away in the opposite direction, but they might try and get the foot traffic. Is there some story to Will with cameras off?

  10. avatar David says:

    Uh-oh. Cops & and the military use the Rem 700. Now it’s a “weapon of war” that belongs on the “battlefield” and not on the streets.

    You need that gun w/ that scope for 100-yard work? I KNOW rednecks can shoot better that that. Hell Junior from Swamp People hit a gator in the head at the same distance with a .22 mag and he was on a boat, the gator was in the water, and it was raining.

    1. avatar Cliff says:

      Tis was exactly my first thought. Why exactly does a Sheriff’s department in America need a 1,000 yard plus sniper rifle? Maybe they do occasionally need an extremely accurate rifle, but I can’t imagine ranges much in excess of 100-200 yards. Want to do something interesting, make a rifle that will hit a dime every time at THAT range and stop scaring the cr*p out of us with Sheriff’s deputies who can kill us from half a mile away.

      1. avatar CyborgCowboy says:

        The militarization of police forces IS getting pretty ridiculous. However, on a lighter note I could only think of this image when I imagined a police marksman trying to hit something that far away.

        http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff254/CDFingers/mosinnagantoptimism.jpg

      2. avatar r3z0nate says:

        They put a 40mm grenade launcher on the sheriff’s boat. When will a sheriff need to blow up vehicles, and how did they even get clearance for that? They clearly state that several launchers were for tear gas, as well as HE grenades.

  11. avatar Ashley Spurlin says:

    The daughter will break off and get her own show just like Orange County Choppers did to keep it going.

  12. avatar Richard says:

    Where Red Jacket quality control at on that rifle???They fail just for fact they could get rifle feed right double stack ever time which was issue other rifle. They bring rifle with out extractor getting one last monet have no clue if gone work or not. I am sorry rifle most used in counrty why be so hard find extractor for it?? If was real world firearms test no way would Red Jacket gun pass test.

    1. avatar kevin says:

      you must not own allot of firearms or work on them at all? Parts are actually very hard to find on a short time line. Gun shops are lucky to have fucking ammo right now, let alone everything they need to build. If your going to criticize anyone for anything you should also learn proper grammar…

      1. avatar Matt in FL says:

        People who criticize other folks’ grammar should probably not use “allot” and ensure their own usage of your/you’re is correct.

      2. avatar louringe3 says:

        Excuse me? Do you have ANY IDEA how long Remeington has bee making the 700 rifle. You can get parts for this rifle all day long. It would be like going in to a auto parts store and wanting a part for a Chevy V8.

  13. avatar Dave says:

    I just can’t take the show. I’d love to see some actual smith work but they are always doing “garbage” work.

    Just crap.

  14. avatar velillen says:

    Such a staged setup. The police base their purchase off one “test” that they even said would probably never happen (shooting through two windows). All the features they wanted Vince (the other gun shop) had covered and had a better gun IMO.

    That and they show Vince test firing his rifle and only show his very first shot that misses the paper….and then nothing else?

    All RJF does is put a gun in some ugly as hell “tacticool” stock and call it high end and fancy. Knew from the very start of the show that they would pick RJF’s rifle whether it was the best or not

  15. avatar MIKE B says:

    everytime i watch sons of guns, top shot, or any other “gun show” for that matter i hear Mr.Colion Noirs voice in my head going “you think sons of guns sucks but you watch it because its about guns”. That statement couldn’t be more spot on. This “reality” tv world we live in now is pitiful but wether if some stupid house wife show, survivor, or sons of guns theres something for everyone. We tend to get so caught up in how we(the firearms community) or portrayed that don’t get to enjoy some of the progress that we’ve made. At the end of the day we just have to remember that NOTHING we see on tv is 100% real and just take it for what it is.

  16. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    I watch now and again because they make me laugh. And I like to laugh.
    I have no doubt, after reading here these past few months, that there are quite a few commenters here who could do a way better job on a build. Without the drama.

  17. avatar Paul53 says:

    Show reminds me of the Simpsons. Except, The Simpsons is mildly interesting. Will somebody please The Clueless Commandos and Pearce Morgan and send them to Mars.

  18. avatar Leo338 says:

    Damn I got excited, I thought this was a series finale but it is only a season finale

    🙁

  19. avatar Coloradan says:

    I liked American Guns better.

    1. avatar JP says:

      no, you liked the daughter on AG more than RJ

  20. avatar Ryan A. says:

    I thought the two tests that they put the guns through were lame. The gun has to be able to shoot through two car windows and shoot through a lock, but not penetrate behind it. So which do they want, penetration or not. You can’t have both.

  21. avatar ncheel2 says:

    Random but does anybody know or remember what song was playing during the end of the episode last night?

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      It’s called “I Go On” by Kyle Adem. Apparently it was written specifically for that scene of that show.

  22. avatar Michael F. says:

    English please?

  23. avatar Bud C says:

    First ppl don’t want reality they want to get away for 60 mi. most builds ae boring at best so you throw in prob. rel or not
    Will is a former USMC all the ppl i know are high strung
    and facing your co. failing pressure is so great been there done that
    IF YOU DONT LIKE THE SHOW CK OUT DANCING WITH THE STARS OR AMERICA HAS ??????

  24. avatar Taylor Tx says:

    Local LE wanting a little TV time or what? After the rj Vs. vince stuff this season, I lost all hope and have near abandoned the derp ship.

  25. avatar Anthony says:

    WHAT??? First off, they cant show u in depth of the builds so they have to show some sort of entertainment. Red Jacket isnt behind the scripted stuff, its the producers who have notepoads in their hands at all times and they decided to film vince because he looked annoyed in every scene like he didnt want em there but made sure to bash Red Jacket. I know an angry stressed out dude wen I see one and Will Hayden is the real deal. I thought this season was awesome and loved the outro.. Was a noble outro and almost brough a tear to my eye hearing Will tell his story and seeing the team part ways. Awesome Finale!!!! You people are pathetic the way you pick this show apart like they’re supposed to teach you how to build a gun so kids or grown amatuers get excited and will gets hurt killed in the process. Watch or dont watch. Plain and simple!! -Anthony

    1. avatar louringe3 says:

      Having done some movie work in my time, this like ALL reality shows are scripted. ANYONE who is in the gun business how hard it would be to find all the parts to build 40, 458 rifles. So what your trying to say is someone ordered 40 rifles from this hole in the wall outfit that sports a outstanding backlog of orders instead of going to a place like Rock River? All I can say is Give me a break

  26. avatar jonathan flink says:

    I Think that Chris is a real caniving , idiot and he is into steff just to get higher up Will’s arse hole , he has no real ability , and i wonder why they have not seen through his sly ways , they should get rid of that F–ker , the prick , I dont like him and his false ways ,A real brown noser, now put that in your pipe and smoke it !

  27. avatar PHILLIP says:

    Great show.loved the show from the start , thank God ..ya…….it was great to see others…go on…like vince..it was great to see that the master. gave life to others.so they could dream of having there own shops.it was good to see a young man .find his place.after leaving.alot of throught has gone into this.all of us in ozz love the show…..praise God

    1. avatar louringe says:

      OH PLEASE

      Your raving over scripted tv???

  28. Personally I do not care if it is scripted or not. I enjoy the show immensely..
    As an aside, I am really looking forward to a new season.. And while ‘Will’ may not be everyones cup of tea, he strikes me as a very honest up front guy who manages to keep going no matter how badly he gets crapped on by those around him.. I watch the show for entertainment… not for facts ( and being in the UK where guns are virtually non existent, I know nothing about the subject anyway ! )

    Very entertaining and here in the UK very popular too

    1. avatar sean smith says:

      Why don’t you join a gun club? you can just about any bolt rifle you want if you can show good reason to have it right up to .50 cal (can only be used on certain ranges and no semi-autos). I know our gun laws in the UK are well over the top!

      1. Honest truth is, I am interested in guns purely in a mechanical aspect. They scare the crap outa me and am more than happy to simply watch others with the expertise and knowledge to handle them safely!! 😉

        1. avatar sean smith says:

          I like the mechanical side of the weapons too but remember that a gun in any form is only a tool and they are nothing to be scared of. You treat a gun with respect and common sense and you’ll be fine, if not its like driving a car with your eyes closed, sooner or later you are going to hit something you shouldn’t.

        2. Yesssss.. But I also know how kak handed I am !!!
          I would rather respect from a distance 😉

          Mind you, as long as there is no amunition within a100 yards I would be very happy to strip any gun just to see how it works ( not saying I could actually put it back together mind you, but cannot be much harder that rebuilding a 4 speed borg warner automatic gearbox ! LOL !! )

        3. avatar sean smith says:

          Yeah know what you mean. Any way getting back to topic.I like the Sons of Guns show, we don’t get much in the way of gun programs over here. Wounder who’ll be left of the old workforce now Vince and Glenn have gone?

        4. I caught a quick glimpse somewhere and it looks like a couple of new guys will be around..
          Really hope Stephanie and Kris’ venture works out for them and equally ( not wishing to seem arsy.. for all I know the bloke is a diamond in real life ) but it would be karma if Vince got his come uppance …

          As an aside……….. Have a read of this.. All the crap Will has had to put up with and then this..

          http://businessreport.com/article/20130408/BUSINESSREPORT0112/130409827

          No wonder he gets somewhat tetchy sometimes !

  29. avatar louringe says:

    Oh another season of this garbage and yet SURPRISE they lost their lease. I feel so sorry for them having to move all that junk

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