SAFE Act Ammo Registration De-Funded. Or Not.

It’s amazing what you learn when you listen. There I was thinking this was just another ammo shortage story when the reporter lets it drop that the ammo registration provision of New York state’s SAFE Act has been de-funded. Really? Funding for the ammo registry was a line item in the Empire State’s $36m initial implementation budget. Google-Fu indicates that the approved budget dumped the money allocated for an ammo registry into a New York State Police technology fund. Which means . . . what? The law is on the books. So even if New York’s jack-booted thugs don’t implement the ammo registry in 2014, the reg remains in place, ready to go. Well, as ready as it can be given the size of the state’s bureaucracy and the inherent inefficiency thereof. How great is that?

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18 Responses to SAFE Act Ammo Registration De-Funded. Or Not.

  1. avatarKevinMA says:

    So the law is there, but there’s no funding, so does that mean you can’t buy ammo since you can’t get a permit? Excellent end-run around the Constitution!

    • I was thinking the exact same thing, yeah.

      • avatarNWBR says:

        Isn’t that what basically happened with the machine gun registry? Congress closed the registry so that no new fully automatic weapons could be registered, so that no new automatic weapons could be legally owned.

    • avatarLemming says:

      The SAFE act says that the ammo-registry requirement only goes in effect once the registry is operating.

      5 3. NO LATER THAN THIRTY DAYS AFTER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE STATE
      6 POLICE CERTIFIES THAT THE STATEWIDE LICENSE AND RECORD DATABASE ESTAB-
      7 LISHED PURSUANT TO SECTION 400.02 OF THIS ARTICLE IS OPERATIONAL FOR THE
      8 PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION…

      • avatarMike says:

        “Operating” doesn’t mean “functioning well” – From a legal standpoint, even “barely operating” still qualifies as “operating.”

  2. avatarMatt in FL says:

    The books are absolutely chock-full of unfunded mandates. With no money, nothing happens. It just sits. If they decide to fund it later, they put it into effect. If not, nothing.

    Off-topic, did anyone else hear “luber goose” when the news lady said his name at about 0:20?

  3. avatarthe last Marine out says:

    Give them time to think up a new tax! the ammo res. will get put in , count on it..

  4. avatarBLAMMO says:

    If that’s true, as I see it, local stores will still be able to sell ammo without a background check. But forget about internet sales. Which is how most people buy ammo. Many on line suppliers already stopped shipping more than a year before the effective date.

  5. avatarLarry says:

    No worries. The whole UnSAFE Act is going to get tossed. There are three strong lawsuits pending. One, if not all, will be successful in getting an injunction. Maybe we can even hope for a full repeal…and then it will be time to go after the Sullivan Act…hey, a guy can dream right.

  6. avatarmax says:

    Ammo registration? Do you mean the backround checks for ammunition isn’t getting funded? I don’t recall hearing about any registering your ammo. Can any buddy clear this up since this directly effects me living in New York. Thanks.

    • avatarBLAMMO says:

      Yes, it’s a background check, not registration. Although, nobody has any idea how it’s supposed to work (as far as I’ve heard). Would they require you to fill out a 4470 to buy a box of ammo? Or, do they plan to create a NYS ammo purchase permit (de facto registration). Nobody knows. Least ways, I don’t.

      Gather ammo unto thyself, NOW!!

  7. avatarShawn says:

    I was in Dicks in NY, live in PA, and would not sell me .40 ammo because i did not have a license for a .40 and some other crap but could of sold me 9mm or .45.

  8. avatarDHSGuy says:

    Money just moved from one specific line into program budget. Implementation will probably be through NYSP and may encompass technologies that cross reference other data bases to determine noncompliance with SAFE Act provisions.

  9. avatarSouthern Cross says:

    Just wait until deer season when they get inundated with the sales details for .270 and .30-06.

  10. avatarJoe says:

    LGS will not do online ammo transfers, therefore I am banned from purchasing ammo online, therefore I cannot shoot. I also refuse to be treated like a sex offender to buy ammo. This is an ammo ban, pure and simple but nobody seems to care. I WILL NOT COMPLY. Oh and you have to log the amount and type of ammo, so yeah, it’s a back door registry.

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