ABC: “Rare” Chinese Spree Killing

Scene of the crime in Shanghai's Baoshan district (courtesy globaltimes.cn)

“In a rare case of gun violence in China, a man fatally shot five people and beat a sixth to death, including some of his factory colleagues and a soldier,” abc.go.com reports. Got it? It’s rare. Because God forbid it wasn’t rare, right? Then the good folks at ABC couldn’t support civilian disarmament. Gun control and spree killings? That doesn’t compute! Aside from all the spree killings in Germany and the U.K. Oh, and Finland. I meant Norway. Do we count the tens of thousands of disarmed Mexicans murdered by cartels? Do I evoke Godwin’s Law? Anyway . . .

ABC tells the tale of the Chinese spree killer then feels obliged to add

Guns are hard to come by in China. Firearms are tightly controlled and private ownership is for the most part illegal. Citizens who have hunting permits may apply at their local police station for permission to own a hunting rifle.

Once you remove guns from the populace, spree killers disappear, right? Oh wait . . . he shot a soldier and took his gun. And then there’s knives. I guess the “rarity” of the Chinese spree killing thing—in a country known for the free flow of information—trumps all that. In theory.

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  1. avatar ST says:

    This story must be fake propaganda.Clearly when there are strong gun laws there is no gun violence .Look at the gun free paradise of Chicago.

  2. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

    More commie agitprop from ABC…

  3. avatar tdiinva says:

    Let’s not forget gasoline, matches and buses. The proper conclusion we can draw from China is that controlling objects is useless when the cause is found in the person.

  4. avatar Pascal says:

    I don’t give an **** about what ABC says, my brother and I often spend months in China for work, I can assure you it is not rare. While using a gun may be more rare, the mass killing and injuries with a knife are common. In 2010 while I was there, they had a least a dozen hack and slash school incidents where someone with a really big knife when into schools and started chopping away. Oh, and it happened despite the fact in China many schools have security guards. The difference is the state media keeps it under covers unless of course the story is to large and they cannot contain it.

    1. avatar Mister Fleas says:

      “While using a gun may be more rare, the mass killing and injuries with a knife are common. In 2010 while I was there, they had a least a dozen hack and slash school incidents where someone with a really big knife when into schools and started chopping away. Oh, and it happened despite the fact in China many schools have security guards. The difference is the state media keeps it under covers unless of course the story is to large and they cannot contain it.”
      +1

      There are a lot of mass murders are caused by disgruntled people with no political or religious motivation.
      Knives are not the only means though. Another way mass murders happen, some Chinese man who is mad at the world will get some mining dynamite, make a suicide vest, and detonate on a crowded bus.

    2. avatar Bova says:

      Nope. No way. You’s a lyin!!! EVERYBODY knows that once guns be banned, violence be gone!!!!!

      (in case you weren’t 100% sure, that was sarcasm. I’m not really calling you a liar. I know how bad it can be over there at times.)

    3. avatar William Burke says:

      Ah, the lure of defenseless minor citizens!!

  5. So what happened to the 47 people that were burned alive at the beginning of the month?

    1. avatar Don says:

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/08/us-china-fire-idUSBRE95701L20130608

      Yeah, maybe spree shootings are rare in China because they’ve figured out a much cheaper and devastating way to kill mass numbers of people.

      -D

      1. avatar Sixpack70 says:

        To DIAF is ok. Heaven forbid anyone is shot and killed!

    2. avatar William Burke says:

      They died.

  6. avatar Ralph says:

    What’s truly rare is truth in American media.

  7. avatar Gtfoxy says:

    Suicide rates are among the highest of the world in China.

    FoxCon, maker of a vast majority of printed circuit boards for pc’s, phones, etc., had to install safety nets around the building to prevent people from jumping out of the windows.

    Ya know, it’s like that when a disarmed populace is forced to work 12-14hr days, for months straight, with little pay, in poor working and housing conditions. Yep, they are bussed into the factory-prisons, and then forced to work and live at factory.

    It’s such a dream job that their primary escape was to go head-long out the windows, as a show of displeasure…

    So rather than addressing the issues, they put up nets.

    Kinda like mass-shootings and Gun-Control, wrong solution for the problem.

  8. avatar Charliebull33 says:

    Oh yeah – rare, as if we had any idea what goes on with the 2.5 billion Chinese and Indians.

  9. avatar Bob Damon says:

    I checked some of the Shanghai ex-pat news sources and none had a exact name for the weapon. I had a native Mandarin friend read the Shanghai news and the translation could be a shotgun, but since he was a former soldier, he could have a rifle from his military service.
    This is the best English source I could find, you will see it was all about money.
    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/791044.shtml#.Ucc6p8u9KSM

    Having spent some time in Shanghai and asking about guns, I can tell you rich and influential people have guns, they treat them like novelties, many dont ever have any ammo.

  10. avatar Peter says:

    Shouldn’t the headline read “Rare non-government gun violence” ?
    Since the Chinese have no qualms about massacring their own citizens and those in occupied lands.

    1. avatar Matt in FL says:

      I was scrolling down to say this. There has historically been plenty of gun violence in China. It’s just mostly been government-on-civilian violence, and for any number of reasons, doesn’t make the papers.

  11. avatar Hannibal says:

    Gun spree killings are rare in China, in large part due to gun control.

    I don’t want to live in China. I wonder if gun control proponents really do.

    1. avatar brian says:

      They do, but they want to be the government.

      1. avatar William Burke says:

        And if they can’t BE the government, they want a chance to like its boots. Just a chance.

  12. avatar jwm says:

    In China the government approved method of spree killing is to run a tank over unarmed people until they quit wiggling. Very effective and saves on ammo.

  13. avatar Mister Fleas says:

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LF24Ad02.html

    “China is one of the world’s largest gun manufacturers, and many guns end up on the black market because of lax controls at factories and theft from armories. Ding said other black market guns in China were homemade weapons of poor quality. Other better-quality guns are smuggled into China through Myanmar. Prices for smuggled weapons range from about 500 to 2,000 yuan (US$73 to US$294), Ding said. ”

    So ABC is lying about guns being hard to come by. Illegal to come by, but still available to people, and for less money than here in the USA.

    1. avatar William Burke says:

      Based on Chinese salaries, they are probably more expensive.

  14. avatar Joe says:

    There should be zero deaths by gun in the freedomless, state-controls-everything utopias that guys like Bloomberg want to impose upon us. This story is a complete contradiction.

  15. avatar Jarhead1982 says:

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-09/08/c_131117301.htm

    A couple years old but average of 287,000 suicides per year 1,337, 798, 587 population 2011 = 21.45 suicide rate per 100k people!

    So to the few trolling antis on this board, since China has 1/1,000 th of the private civilian arms as the US, why isn’t their suicide rate 1/1,000 th of the US eh?

  16. avatar BRBruce says:

    The uneducated people running around wanting to ban everything, really should feed their minds something other than junk food.

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