TTAG Supports Disarmament

If this video wasn’t from the New Orleans Police Department I’d swear it was a fake. ‘Cause, you know, the New Orleans Police Department is so trustworthy. Also, every Martial Arts-based “How to Defeat a Gun” video ever posted on YouTube has the pretend bad guy jamming the gun right up to the sensei. Which makes it a whole lot easier indeed to kick the BG’s butt and take away his or her weapon. As happened here. I guess truth is as strange as fiction. Oh, and this website formally endorses criminal disarmament during a violent attack. Or maybe even before. That is all.

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  1. avatar user3369 says:

    I’ve never heard a security camera with such clear audio. Impressive!

    Fake.

    1. avatar Billy Wardlaw says:

      I suspect that as well. When I frame by framed it, it became clear to me that the bad guy is anticipating the grab, and actually starts to turn and run well before the gun is actually taken from him.

      1. avatar Pat says:

        Baton handoff, track and field style.

    2. I have never seen a security camera prevent a crime.

  2. avatar Loyd says:

    Farago has found a way to cause heart attacks over the Internet.

    1. avatar Daniel Silverman says:

      +100 I just about fell off my chair when I read the article title!!!

    2. avatar DonS says:

      He did that long ago when he started linking to Israeli model pictures.

  3. avatar Ralph says:

    Why didn’t the BG receive a whole @ssful of buckshot?

    1. avatar jwm says:

      BG was disarmed and running away. No need to shoot and if he had of shot the video might have made it into the gg’s trial as eveidence against him.

      hopefully the bg rented that gun from one of the gangs in Nawlin’s and now he can’t give it back or pay for it. He’d recieve more and swifter justice that way than if he went into the legal system.

      1. avatar Al Cohol says:

        He was probably gonna score some cash with it at the next local gun buyback.

      2. avatar Ralph says:

        jwm, I’m guessing that the BG didn’t get an @ssful because the shotty wasn’t loaded.

    2. avatar Al Cohol says:

      It was either not loaded in the first place (very likely, especially in this ammo drought) or the guy had enough self control to realize once the @sshole ran away and no longer had a shotgun he was no longer a threat.

      1. avatar utdmatt says:

        umm, the ammo drought doesn’t include $5 boxes of shotgun ammo…

        1. avatar Al Cohol says:

          You apparently do not live where I live then.

    3. avatar Jason says:

      Cause the victim didn’t want to spend a decade in the federal pen.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        The victim chased a fleeing BG down the street while brandishing a shotgun. Why? What was he expecting to happen?

  4. avatar William Burke says:

    MAKE. MY. DAY.

  5. avatar Mike in NC says:

    Read about this elsewhere and it was reported with the additional detail that the would-be robber came back in a car and tried to trade the victim’s phone for the return of the shotgun.

  6. avatar Armchair Command'oh says:

    In NYC, Bloomberg would probably have our hero arrested for receiving a firearm without a background check and possession of a firearm without a license.

    1. avatar jwm says:

      Don’t forget it looked like an illegally cut down shotgun. Kapo bloomberg would have had this poor guy burned at the stake in Time’s Square.

      1. avatar Felix says:

        No, that would be pollution.

        1. avatar C says:

          and smoking.

  7. avatar Saul Feldstein says:

    DOJ should press hate crime charges on the white guy, he obviously didnt get the memo to submit to street violence from Eric Holder.

  8. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

    This happened ONE BLOCK from my house. I often park in front of this place. Not fake. The owner of the place was burglarized not too long ago and put up the cams. I have similar ones and am surprised at how clear voices are.

    FYI this house was the subject of some of he very early reporting on Katrina. Here is a pic. http://www.asergeev.com/pictures/archives/zb.htm

    1. avatar g says:

      Whoa… thx for the info.

  9. avatar Pantera Vazquez says:

    But the NYT and other papers will tell you, give up the goods, don’t fight the BG. Kudos to the would be victim with Cojones………

  10. avatar Will says:

    I especially like how the guy hardly flinched when someone racks a 12 gauge behind him at 5:00am on a deserted street.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Only BGs are frightened by the sound of a pump being cycled.

  11. avatar PavePusher says:

    Perfect Okinawan Karate circle-block and grab. Uechi-Ryu, anyone?

    Not that I’d want that to be my only level of defense.

    1. avatar crashbbear says:

      No, couldn’t have been… he didn’t assume a proper kiba dachi, nor did he follow up his disarm with the venerable ippon ken. Just sayin’.

  12. avatar DonS says:

    This story sucks. It will be used by the anti-gunners in an attempt to demonstrate that nobody needs a gun to defend himself. You see, even when the BG is armed with the preferred (according to the Veep) self-defense weapon, an unarmed victim can easily disarm said BG.

  13. avatar Randy Drescher says:

    I’m surprised the cops weren’t there instantly to take the white guys “gun” away. They certainly had enough practice during Katrina, Randy

  14. avatar crndl says:

    nice takeaway move; tom cruise refined it a bit in “Collateral”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiqwF_Y9S5Q&list=FLuGg5ObT9mHcMZppOWEvmOg&index=35

  15. avatar Billy Wardlaw says:

    To me this is an interesting example of miseducation in martial arts and film working both ways. The bad here is clearly under the impression that the way to threaten someone with a gun is to put it as close to the intended victim as possible – where did he learn that?

  16. avatar whiskeytangofoxtrot says:

    Two words- situational awareness.

    1. avatar Dark Alley Dan says:

      Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of. Potential Victim Man is a thumbslave, walking through a skeezy neighbourhood, head down and mashing away at the electronic teat. He had no idea that Captain Shotgun was on him until he racked the slide.

      I see this inattentiveness daily, and it never ceases to amaze me. Darwinism is a regrettably slow process.

  17. avatar user3369 says:

    Fine. Not fake.

    Definitely staged.

    1. avatar Geo says:

      As Eric said, not faked. Real. I live on this street less than half a block away. We have similar cameras covering this street and the cross street, and NOPD has knocked on my door at night asking for footage after an armed robbery outside my door.
      NOLA.com reported that the BG came up later in a vehicle and said he would trade the shotgun for the Winner’s dropped cell phone, but Winner used the shotgun to break the car window. So perhaps the shotgun was not loaded — I know I would have been very tempted to unload two shells when the BG pulled up on the street.

      1. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

        Geo- we will have to meet up and form the NOLA/Marigny chapter of TTAG. I am in the last block of Touro- you closer to Wasabi or the New Movement?

        1. avatar Geo says:

          I’m very close to New Movement and the bank (Ruby Slipper).

  18. avatar Russ Bixby says:

    With the tag line, I figured someone had his mortar or howitzer confiscated and that for some reason RF approved. Nice.

  19. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

    Cool, I am sure we have seen each other in the neighborhood. FYI I just called in two dudes sitting in a dark nissan who did not belong on my block. Nopd had great response time but they were already gone. FYI there is a new indoor range going to open in da’ parish next month. I shoot at honey island but this place should be good mid week.

  20. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

    FYI the bad guy was caught, I talked to a cop in my neighborhood and the shotgun was unloaded- from the NOPD press release of 5/1/13

    May 01, 2013)- Today, NOPD Eighth district detectives arrested a 16-year-old boy for three separate armed robberies in the Marigny. He used a shotgun in all 3 cases. The teenager contacted 8th District detectives this afternoon and turned himself in with his family and attorney present.

    Detectives say the teen first struck on Friday, April 26, at or about 12:30am in the 800 block of Touro Street. In that incident the victim was walking when he was approached by the 16-year-old suspect and another young male. One of the subjects pointed a shotgun at the victim and demanded his property. The suspects struck the victim three times. The victim fled the scene without relinquishing his property and sustained minor injuries.

    On Saturday, 4/27/13 at or about 5:05am, detectives say the teenager and an accomplice approached a victim who was walking in the 1900 block of Burgundy Street, pointed a shotgun at the victim’s face and stated: “Give me your money”. The victim disarmed the gunman and then chased him. Moments later, the victim was approached by the two suspects again, who were in a black four door sedan. The driver of the vehicle said to the victim “Give me my gun back and I’ll give you your phone that you dropped”. The victim then used the shotgun to strike the rear windshield of the vehicle causing it to break. The two suspects then fled on Frenchmen to St. Claude and then unknown.

    The detectives began a follow up investigation and discovered the 16-year-old’s family member reported vehicle damage to the New Orleans Police Department under false circumstances which was consistent with the damage reported in the armed robbery that happened on Burgundy; this led the detectives to develop a suspect of the crime.

    Today a couple who saw the video footage of the incident on television came to the 8th District Police station and reported that they, too, were victims of an armed robbery by the same suspect seen in the video. They told detectives the teenager pointed the shotgun at them on Saturday 4-27-2013 in the 800 block of Frenchmen Street, and demanded their property. The victims stated the perpetrator took cash and other property and fled.

    The detectives then prepared a photographic line-up of the suspect and he was positively identified as the perpetrator.

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