Live Blog: America’s Gun: The Rise of the AR-15

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  1. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

    1st mis-information of the night …burst means exactly that 3 rd burst… not full auto

    1. avatar Hinshelworld says:

      Legally speaking its the same…

    2. avatar EPThorn says:

      you can have a controlled burst on fully auto though…

    3. avatar BadKarma525 says:

      Burst can also mean 2-rd burst. I had the chance to experience an H&K UMP40 that was configured for semi-auto and 2rd burst

    4. avatar Skeptical_Realist says:

      No, 3 round burst means 3 round burst.

      Burst fire from an M61A1 is anywhere from 50 to 200 rounds.

  2. avatar Leo338 says:

    My comments don’t show up in the live blog above. Anyone else have this problem?

    Ok, I guess they have to approve your comment. Lame, who wants to sit here and watch these guys talk to each other?

  3. avatar personfromtheinterwebs says:

    thought the ar wasn’t used in Newtown.

    1. avatar EPThorn says:

      I don’t know why this myth is still out there… yes, an AR style weapon was not only used in Newton, it was the primary weapon.

        1. avatar projectiledysfunction says:

          Look at the date on the clip- Dec 15. That was a story from the morning after the shooting when all the media outlets were still desperately trying to barf out more information than the others and most of it was still wrong.

          Official reports indicated an AR-15 was the primary weapon used while Lanza also carried two handguns, one of which he used to kill himself. A Saiga-12 was found in the trunk of his car. There was an article about it on this very site not long ago:

          http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/foghorn/official-the-guns-used-in-newtown-shooting/

        2. avatar personfromtheinterwebs says:

          right on. I stand corrected.

        3. avatar bedbugeddy says:

          Stand corrected? So now we believe what the police and the media say? Are you kidding me?

        4. avatar projectiledysfunction says:

          bedbugeddy: I don’t know where you’re going with this since the initial report that he used four handguns in the school and the AR was found in the trunk of his car (among other incorrect things reported) came from the media.

          I mean, if we can’t trust the official police reports what are we supposed to trust? Internet hearsay based on an early, debunked report from a single media source? Really??

  4. avatar racer88 says:

    My comments are not posting. Bummer.

    1. avatar Leo338 says:

      They have to approve your comment first. What’s the point of having a live chat where every comment is moderated? Just go to twitter #RiseOFAR15, its better and you’re not moderated.

      1. avatar Joke & Dagger says:

        10:23

        Nick Leghorn: Racer88: Your comments aren’t posting because I don’t like them. Keep trying. Same to the rest of you nutters.

        Nic, For the Win.

  5. avatar Amanathia says:

    Anyone have a link to a US legal stream of this? 🙂

  6. avatar Evan says:

    Sooo how many times have they said assault rifle by now?

  7. avatar racer88 says:

    Turns out my posts were being moderated and rejected as “not funny.” That’s just great. SERIOUSLY???

    1. avatar racer88 says:

      I thought I was among friends here. But, it seems the live chat is just for TTAG staff. Very disappointed.

      1. avatar Ben says:

        If they didn’t moderate then the stream would probably be going so fast that nobody could read anything. Live chats tend to get out of hand very fast when unmoderated.

        1. avatar racer88 says:

          I had a particular interest in this. And, I got shut out. I have grossly misread my relationship with this blog. Feeling pretty stupid.

      2. avatar Nick Leghorn says:

        I was doing my best to let good, relevant comments through. But if we opened it up for everyone…. you should have seen what was caught in the spam filter. I didn’t think our readers could be that racist.

        The comments section of this post was always open for you to use.

        1. avatar racer88 says:

          I was under the obviously false impression that it was open because at the bottom of the window there was a place to enter and send comments. What was I thinking, eh?

          So, were all the comments by those granted access (mostly TTAG staffers) “relevant?” Or was it more like a “you had to be there conversation” among friends? I’d say 80% of the posted comments by the “in crowd” was vacuous… and I’m being nice.

        2. avatar C says:

          Butthurt racer.

        3. avatar mp says:

          Seriously why bother advetising it and inviting everyone??

          Have you little party and let the drunk staffers inappropriate comments through in private…

  8. avatar Ralph says:

    Another crock of sh1t from the MSM. And I missed the NFL draft for this.

    1. avatar Roscoe says:

      Well, what do you expect from NBC?

      They simply confirmed my expectations when I read about the scheduled broadcast.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        Well, what do you expect from NBC?

        Like you, Roscoe, I expected exactly what we got. Another MSM hit piece.

  9. avatar 16V says:

    McDonald’s is ‘America’s Hamburger’ and Olive Garden is ‘America’s Italian’. Let’s not even mention Applevomit.

    The Mattel puke-in-its-own-mouth-popgun? Damned with faint praise indeed.

  10. avatar Ensitue says:

    Apparently the referance to Doc Hammer was completly missed as well

  11. avatar gloomhound says:

    I liked the chat/feed/thingy thanks for doing it.

  12. avatar PavePusher says:

    I won’t see this until 2200 local, Tucson. Better cook dinner now, otherwise it sounds like I’ll be trying to scream through the screen…

  13. avatar Nine says:

    I’m watching a Rerun now.

    $60 pmags, hilarious.

  14. avatar Pat says:

    It was kind of a sleepy program. No new imfo. Compared to the other anti-gun channels, it wasnt very grabber oriented.

  15. avatar JAS says:

    I think they got a lot of their talking points on the pro gun side from this site. Some of the stuff they were talking about followed comments and posts in here almost verbatim. In the end though they made the people of the gun look like freaks. Sad. Never saw them talk to Alan, or LEOs, or anybody with a mainstream presence that was pro gun.

  16. avatar Saul Feldstein says:

    When the ER nurse started comparing wounds “from an AR15” to wounds seen in Afghanistan, there goes the logic. As if 5.56 wounds are different from, say, 9mm wounds, bullets tear up whatever they hit.

    If someone gets hit by a car in Afghanistan are the wounds somehow different if they get hit by a car here?

  17. avatar Whatever says:

    Anyone find this a as torrent anywhere yet?

    1. avatar Hunter says:

      I think this is it.

      1. avatar No_Smoking says:

        Thank you

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