"Demonstrators pray during a pro-gun rally at the main entrance to the Georgia State Capitol on Friday, Feb. 8, 2013, in Atlanta. Groups have been staging similar rallies across the country to protest gun restrictions." (caption and photo courtesy usatoday.com)

“The [Southern Poverty Center] predicts the ongoing gun-control debate will continue to fuel anti-government anger and swell the ranks of the radical groups. The groups generally believe the federal government is conspiring to confiscate all guns and curtail personal liberties, the center says. Some of the groups have threatened politicians who have proposed gun-control measures, the report says.” Record number of anti-government militias in USA [via usatoday.com]

66 Responses to Quote of the Day: Southern Poverty Law Center Edition

  1. “The center tracked 1,360 radical militias and anti-government groups in 2012”

    That’s 27 ‘radical militias’ per state. I couldn’t find one in PA if my life depended on it.

    Makes me wonder what criteria makes a ‘radical militia’?

    • A website, an OFWG playing the part of “The Mouth of Sauron” on-camera, and some t-shirts with skulls, flags, and mis-spellings.

    • oh i see. They count each group as a separate group if it is active in EACH COUNTY. So, the Constitution Party is counted as 10 separate groups in PA, because it’s active in 10 counties. And counted as over 500 separate groups country-wide. Isn’t it really just 1 single group?

      What BS.

    • Not liberal and opposing obama. SPLC are leftist nuts and if you are not and do not like big gov’t you are an anti gov’t radical.

    • Hang out at some western PA gun ranges long enough, you’ll see them. I definitely have. I showed up one time and the group i was with got the evil eye until we started shooting stuff – perhaps they thought we were law enforcement. I am pretty sure you dont find them, they find you, so i am skeptical of any statistic that “counts” them.

    • “Makes me wonder what criteria makes a ‘radical militia’?”

      Someone just like me: a white Jewish male who did not vote for King Obama, has never committed a crime, and owns a 5-shot DA revolver.

    • US population – (number of employees of SPLC + number of donors to SPLC) = number of radical militants

    • To Morris Dees, one guy with an NRA sticker on his pickup is a “radical militia”; issue defined.

      Dees is a race-baiting traitor and all-around SOB. If there’s anybody “radical”, it’s him.

      Pot. Kettle. Black.

    • Makes me wonder what criteria makes a ‘radical militia’?

      I guarantee you this site and anyone who comments on it is considered a radical militia. Don’t be surprised if we are soon labeled as such in the MSM.

    • An opportunist leading a leftist front organization who is in truth a greedy irresponsible capitalist of the worst nature.

  2. Extremely disappointed in you Robert for posting this!

    You should of “fact checked” this “group”.

    Case in point, southern poverty law center considers anyone who is against ILLEGAL immigration as being ANTI immigrant.

    If one is for LEGAL immigration, those asshats consider them ANTI immigrant!

  3. Anyone who even mildly disagrees with these race-baiters is labeled as something or other. The SPLC is a fundraising organization that uses fear and intimidation to fill their coffers. They have no credibility.

  4. I hardly think RF is in any way supporting SPLC, but the sad fact is, a lot of policy crafters of the statist ilk take these clowns seriously, and thus it is important to know what bile they are spewing.

  5. The SPLC is just a bunch of liberals that brand anyone who doesn’t fall in line with the status quo that they set as terrorists. This blog is probably on this list as well as every username who has ever posted here.

    • Very true. They produce crap like this list to fundraise off of it, then the directors get a cut. The heads are all rich. They are the white versions of sharpton and jesse jackson.

  6. The progressive mind sits in judgement over others and then justifies policy with “good intentions” which always take precedence over rights. Unfortunatley, “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”

    It is no different with gun rights. The Progressive judges that a person doesn’t need a gun, or that the “risks outweigh the benefits”. And taking away guns from people will make everyone safer in the Progressive mind. Since the intention is to make everyone safer, it is therefore okay for government to take away as many guns as possible from as many people as possible. Whether or not taking away guns actually makes anyone safer or infringes on anyone’s right is not important.

    For many of us, rights are superior to good intentions. This is the fundamental conflict. And that is why many people are becoming politically active and demonstrating. It is also why some people are gearing up to secure their rights if government tries to “curtail personal liberties” as the Southern Poverty Law Center states.

    It’s really too bad that the Progressive mindset is not compatible with the “live and let live” philosophy.

    • The progressive mind set is not compatible with personal freedom, responsibility, private property, sanctity of life, beliefs contrary to thier own or to the constitution.

      What the progressive mind set IS compatible with is an ant colony, with the queen or the ruling class in total control and all other worker and warrior ants lives expendable to support the rulers.

      You want to read a story based on the liberal/ progressive wet dream, “Hellstroms Hive,”, a nightmare to every freedom believing humanbeing.

  7. The SPLC was once a serious and respected civil rights organization. Today, they make Al Sharpton look like a paragon of integrity.

    • Very true. The ADL, too, has tipped over into actual antisemitism, marxism and jihad fellow travellership. The minion of SPLC who many years ago introduced me isn’t crazy, or rich, or especially corrupt, though.

  8. When the majority of Americans are anti-government [check the approval ratings for Congress and the President] then being pro-government is radical.

    BTW, “threatened politicians who have proposed gun-control measures” means “we will work to vote you out of office.” In the totalitarian world-view of “liberals”, that constitutes an actionable crime.

  9. Fun Fact: The slogan on that AK was also on Woody Guthrie’s guitar, a Depression-era liberal and communist sympathizer.

    • Banjo actually, I remember seeing it close up in circumstances too stupid to go into. Do you know where it came from?

      • Correction! I thought I read Pete Seeger – he had some dopey slogan on his banjo too. Sorry, it’s early.

        • Woody had the slogan on his guitar, Seegar had it on his banjo. It’s from WWII when both of them quit being peace and love performers and got behind the war effort. Pretty cool slogan for its time. I’ve thought about putting “This machine kills liberals” on my guitar but then I’d be limited to singing “Okie from Muskogee”…. not that that would be bad. 🙂

        • Guthrie & Seeger and all the commies were isolationist as long as Stalin & Hitler were cozy. “The Yanks Are Not Coming” was their slogan. When Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941, the slogan changed instantly to “The Yanks Are Not Coming Too Late!” and the CP,USA was screaming “Open Up That Second Front”. It was only then that the folkies put “This Machine Kills Fascists” on their instruments only that was actually first used on Soviet aircraft supporting the Loyalist side during the Spanish Civil War.

          Arlo Guthrie of “Alice’s Restaurant” fame wasn’t nearly as radical as his fellow-traveling father.

    • Mr. Hyperbole: “communist sympathizer”

      I ask you, have you EVER known a communist to write a song about Jesus? To wit:

      Jesus Christ
      Words and Music by Woody Guthrie

      Jesus Christ was a man who traveled through the land
      A hard-working man and brave
      He said to the rich, “Give your money to the poor,”
      But they laid Jesus Christ in His grave

      Chorus:
      Jesus was a man, a carpenter by hand
      His followers true and brave
      One dirty little coward called Judas Iscariot
      Has laid Jesus Christ in His Grave

      Chorus

      He went to the preacher, He went to the sheriff
      He told them all the same
      “Sell all of your jewelry and give it to the poor,”
      And they laid Jesus Christ in His grave.

      Chorus

      When Jesus come to town, all the working folks around
      Believed what he did say
      But the bankers and the preachers, they nailed Him on the cross,
      And they laid Jesus Christ in his grave.

      Chorus

      And the people held their breath when they heard about his death
      Everybody wondered why
      It was the big landlord and the soldiers that they hired
      To nail Jesus Christ in the sky

      Chorus

      This song was written in New York City
      Of rich man, preacher, and slave
      If Jesus was to preach what He preached in Galilee,
      They would lay poor Jesus in His grave.

  10. They have a real hard-on for Stuart Rhodes and Oath Keepers. That was reason enough for me to sign up- if you’ve pissed off the SPLC these days, you’ve probably done something right.
    Remember when they proudly stood up for those whose right were being violently infringed on? When they dedicated a great deal of their time, money, and effort to make life miserable for the KKK?
    Yeah, they apparently don’t either.

  11. The early 90’s saw a “surge” in “anti-government, right-wing militias” and the SLPC was instrumental in drumming up fear about them then too. After the false flag OKC bombing was blamed on “militias,” the freedom movement’s popularity all but evaporated.

    Beware how the government handles threats to its power. The term “domestic terrorist” isn’t vaguely generic for nothing.

    • I well remember the feeling of liberation among the gunnies after the elections of 1994 giving the House to the Republicans – like a weight off your chest – all to be dashed by the suspiciously timed Oklahoma City bombing. Enough to make you believe in black helicopters, or is it drones now?
      Is another shocking incident on the way? You hate to even think this way in this open society of rights and press freedoms but if the govt is trying to arouse suspicions – with the cover-up of Benghazi and Holder’s gobbledygook on domestic drone attacks – they’re doing a hell of a job.

  12. I know Potok/SPLC quite well, from a 10-year-plus online militawatch relationship. He’s so bonkers that he claims Malik Shabazz is a “far right extremist”.

    This is what you have feeding what we laughingly call “law enforcement”.

  13. So more and more “radical groups” are forming because of the perception that the governtment is “conspiring to confiscate all guns and curtail personal liberties”. And the government, fearful of “radical groups” trys to confiscate guns, etc., etc….

    It’s a vicious cycle!

  14. RF or whoever may be moderating, this may warrant a separate item for TTAG:

    I spent 25 great minutes watching a video “Publius Huldah Shows Federal Gun Control is Unlawful” on vimeo.com. She is well spoken, thorough and frankly inspirational.

  15. *sigh* Oh, you silly liberals.

    We are the Invisible Militia. We are your neighbors, your teachers, your students, your postmen, your pastors, your accountants, etc, etc.

    We are already united and fused together through our common spirit of American Resolve. Do you liberals honestly think we are advertising this, or have a website for it? LOL! We have been networking for years. We are simply being attentive and vigilant, watching events unfold, and keeping a low profile.

    We have no intention of usurping the Nation. Far from it. We wish to merely be the line in the sand to defend her.

  16. Go to the SPLC’s site, under the heading “Hate and Extremism”
    there is a listing called “Domestic Terrorism in the US Since 1995”.
    I’m sure everyone here will be surprised that when viewed the
    list is actually titled “Terror from the Right”.

    I guess left wing terrorists are not only granted immunity, but
    their actions aren’t even worth reporting.

    • –Abortion-on-demand
      –Letting convicted and jailed illegals free
      –Apologizing to The World
      –Saying it is acceptable for the President to use drones against Americans on American soil
      –Sending 250M dollars to The Muslim Brotherhood
      –Imposing unConstitutional legislation to grab privately owned firearms

      Yes, you rightists are rife with domestic terrorism, and…what?..oh, those things came from the left? Oh. Um. Nevermind.

      Ha!

  17. The Federal government is trying to confiscate property and curtail rights–and not just with regard to guns. Gun control, drones, the PATRIOT Act, and all other such evil are parts of one slow and stupid march toward tyranny. I say stupid because I don’t think that this is a conscious plan. It’s just that there is a force like gravity that pulls all governments in the direction of tyranny. Good people, whether in or out of government, pull against that. Evil people let government head in the wrong way or actively push it along.

  18. The groups generally believe the federal government is conspiring to confiscate all guns and curtail personal liberties, the center says.

    Twelve years into the War on Terror, some three decades into the War on Drugs, I’m surprised now that anybody would consider it controversial, let alone radical, so suggest the government is curtailing personal liberties.

    • Dave L.,

      Your logic and insight is falling upon the deaf ears of the statist cult.

      I, on the other hand, am both inspired and pleased to see such common sense on display.

      Molon Labe, indeed. 🙂

    • Great pictures. I like the “knowing smile” on the LEO’s face in the last picture, and how unconcerned and unthreathened the other ones appear in the background.

      And not a single trigger violation!

      • Notice how most of the private rifles have empty mag wells and chamber flags, yet the one carried by the “public servant” looks locked and loaded? I guess that explains his “unconcerned and unthreatened” look.

        To modify the famous TJ quote, “when the government is unafraid of the people…” You know the rest.

  19. From the DOJ website:

    “Street Gangs will continue to pose a serious domestic threat to many communities throughout the United States. … Large national street gangs pose the greatest threat because they smuggle, produce, transport, and distribute large quantities of illicit drugs throughout the country and are extremely violent. … it is highly probable that several United States based street gangs will increase their relationships with international criminal organizations and drug-trafficking organizations (DTOs) as a means of obtaining access to the global illicit drug market. …

    The Crips are a collection of structured and unstructured gangs that have adopted a common gang culture. Crips membership is estimated to consist of between 30,000 to 35,000 individuals, most of whom are African-American males from the Los Angeles metropolitan area. Large, national-level Crips gangs include the 107 Hoover Crips, Insane Gangster Crips and Rolling 60s Crips. … The Crips also are involved in other criminal activities including assault, auto theft, burglary and homicide.”

    Formed in Los Angeles, 18th Street is a loosely associated set of cliques, each led by an influential and prominent member. Membership in 18th Street is estimated to consist of between 30,000 to 50,000 individuals. In California, approximately 80 percent of the 18th Street gang’s membership is composed of illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America. 18th Street is active in 44 cities and in 20 states. … 18th Street gang members also engage in crimes such as assault, auto theft, carjacking, drive-by shooting, extortion, homicide, identification fraud and robbery. …

    The Black Peace Stone Nation (BPSN) is one of the largest and most violent associations of street gangs in the U.S. The BPSN consists of seven highly structured criminal street gangs with a single leader and a common culture. The BPSN has an estimated 6,000 to 8,000 members, a majority of whom are African-American males from the Chicago metropolitan area. … Members of the BPSN are also involved in other types of criminal activity including assault, auto theft, burglary, carjacking, drive-by shooting, extortion, homicide and robbery. …”

    Does the SPLC also track these domestic terrorists?

    Just curious.

  20. So dissent has gone from “the highest form of patriotism” to “criminal conspiracy” in a decade.

    “I am an officer, you are and agent, he is a spy.”
    “I am a member of a religion, you are part of a sect, he belongs to a cult.”
    “I am a patriot, you are a malcontent, he is a dissident.”

  21. In that picture, their heads are bowed. Does that mean they were praying? No wonder SPLC considers them terrorists.

    Dees is such a douche.

  22. Well if the fascist in government are pushing to take your property well DUH!!!! if bad groups get more recruits.

  23. I wouldn’t believe the Southern Poverty Pimp Law Center if it told me that the sun rises in the East. As far as believing that the feds intend to confiscate all guns and deprive citizens of their civil liberties, does such a belief make the Republican Party a radical group? I sure hope so.

    The truth is in the proposed or passed legislation. Gun confiscation, suppression of self-defense rights and draconian penalties for failure to come to heel — that says all.

  24. Good. People should be getting angry.

    Being labeled as an enemy of the state in this day and age is a badge of honor.

  25. We had to deal with this crap in the 90’s too. Here’s what I remember of Morris Dees and the SPLC:

    1. He’s a pervert. His wife (ex-wife, actually) said so in the divorce filing.
    2. He’s a Jewish red diaper baby – with all the bizarre blindness to left-wing violence that comes with that. Environmentalist torched a development? Nothing to see there, move along. Weathermen bomb people? Nah, that’s just ‘political activism.’ Whiney little commie kills JFK? Somehow, that’s caused by the right wing anti-catholic bigots. And so on.
    3. He’s on the grift for money. Always has been, too.

    The SPLC shows the power of the ginning up a group, giving it some fashionable name that causes the press to take note and pumping out “studies” that play into the bias of the media. When you look behind the curtains of the SPLC, you find just how threadbare an operation it really is.

  26. In the photo people are praying together. What the hell does religion have to with this? It makes as much sense for people to spontaneously hold hands and polka dance.

  27. I have my own concerns with right-wing extremism in the United States, but I have trouble taking the SPLC’s statistics too seriously.

    They take a rather liberal view of what constitutes a “hate group” to inflate their statistics. I was browsing their hate group map to see what kinds of hits were in my area, and one of their examples was a restaurant whose owner likes to post offensive right-wing commentary on the letterboard outside of his business.

    Sure that might not be the kind of place I want to take my business, but a “hate group”? Come on, I see shit like that from people on Facebook on a daily basis.

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