Moveon.org: The NRA Doesn’t Speak for Me

“MoveOn says that besides [spending 'six figures' on air time for] the TV ad, they’ll greet members of Congress as they head home for recess with organized rallies and congressional office drop-bys.” No irony intended by cnn.com or moveon.org I’m sure. “The group also says it will distribute ‘The NRA Doesn’t Speak for Me’ bumper stickers.” Thankfully, that’s a particularly weak campaign; it doesn’t say what the NRA says that moveon supporters don’t agree with. In other words, it’s as clunky as it sounds. And who is this Jerry Thompson guy anyway?

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55 Responses to Moveon.org: The NRA Doesn’t Speak for Me

  1. avatarThomas Paine says:

    and what happened to your eye?

  2. avatarRoss says:

    What a totally pointless ad, and he is most definitely not a defender of the Second Amendment.

  3. avatarSammy says:

    Really? The vast majority? You must really get around.

  4. avatarSCS says:

    I promise that most people in Ohio are not as stupid as this buffoon sounds. At least I hope not.

    • avatarTotenglocke says:

      Oh, they’re definitely not. This guy probably owns a .22 rifle which he’s probably shot less than once per year on average.

      And no surprise, comments are disabled on the video.

      • avatarJMS says:

        Nothing bothers me more than the fact that the comments are always disabled on left-leaning videos on YouTube. I guess they know what they’d see.

        I think what bothers me most is that it just proves they aren’t interested in a debate, discussion, or hearing any opinions or “common sense” or even almost considering the other side of the argument. The close-minded attitude is difficult for me to reconcile.

        • avatarSilver says:

          They know they’re wrong, plain and simple, but so much is dependent on their warped psychological views (victimhood, ignorance of unpleasant truths, comfortable cowardice) that they simply can’t handle facing the truth. Thus, they don’t want to be reminded of it.

    • avatarJohn says:

      Nope, most people in Ohio are not this stupid. Granted, I think Wayne LaPierre is a terrible spokesman, but this guy doesn’t even have a point.

  5. avatarSixpack70 says:

    Stop taking the NRA’s money and take another lobbyist’s money that supports my narrow world view instead!

  6. avatarj says:

    The guy is just another piss ant whore getting a few bucks from Soros and company.

    • avatarpat says:

      Soros should die. Monstrous Commies who need ball-peen hammers taken to the lower jaw.

    • avataranonymous says:

      > Soros should die. Monstrous Commies

      Commie? George Soros is the embodiment of Ayn Randian capitalist ideals. The guy has so much money the Republicans would have him run for president in 2016 if he wasn’t a foreigner.

      George Soros, Mitt Romney, and Al Gore will be wining and dining in Galt’s Gulch counting their billions of dollars — which makes them better people than us — while the rest of the world competes to serve our betters at Chinese slave wages in the race to the bottom.

      • avatarUS says:

        Actually, Soros is probably not the embodiment of Ayn Rand’s ideals.

        I’m not an Ayn Rand fan but have read her two most well-known books (The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged). I found them interesting and thought-provoking while at the same time deeply flawed.

        In both books there are various characters who are enormously wealthy but nonetheless are clearly villains in the story, because they obtained their wealth through fundamentally dishonest means and tried to advance “collectivist” ideals. The author clearly did not equate wealth with virtue.

        • avatarSoccerchainsaw says:

          I suspect that Ayn Rand would be a libertarian before joining the Republican party.

          I don’t think she saw wealth as virtue. She saw value as virtue. She saw value in those that exchanged their capabilities and efforts for the true value of those efforts. She saw the true evil inherent in the Marxist ideal: “Give according to ability, take according to need.”

      • avatartdiinva says:

        On the surface yes but after the fall of the Soviet Union scholars got access to Soviet archives and lo and behold arch capitalist Armand Hammer turned out to be the bag man for the COMINTERN. At that point the CIA started to look for who the KGB might have beem grooming to be Hammer’s successor. While they could not find an unambiguous answer many analysts thought it just might be George Soros.

      • avataranonymous says:

        > The author clearly did not equate wealth with virtue.

        Her followers do.

        Look at who they ran for President in 2012.

        Next thing I know you’re going to tell me is that Communists don’t believe in gulags, because Marx didn’t mention them.

      • avatarpat says:

        Yeah, he is quite the conservative Republican(rolling eyes). I wouldnt call that America hater a Yankee Doodle Dandy by any stretch.

  7. avatarRandy Drescher says:

    Someone needs to speak for that asshat, he should be thankfull the NRA would. Typical go off on a tangent, blowhard, POS, Randy

  8. avatarRalph says:

    Moveon.org needs to change it’s name. I suggest GeorgeSoros.org.

  9. avatarLance says:

    Thats why true gun owners must keep calling there Reps and say kill the ban bills.

  10. avatarRydak says:

    Guy looks like a nutjob.

  11. avatarjerry says:

    Pitiful. One would think a well-funded libtard organization like moveon could run a better false flag op than this. A gun owner? Supporter of the 2nd Amendment? Really? Not even the low information Obama stooges would fall for this.

  12. avatarJan says:

    But he’s a proud parent of a soldier, so he must love this country and defend it’s constitution. [/sarc]

  13. avatargreat unknown says:

    So why doesn’t the NRA come out with a sticker that says “Moveon speaks for George Soros. The NRA speaks for me.”?

  14. avatarSteve says:

    I dunno who he is, but this ad, built around this one (random?) guy has all the hallmarks of a anti-gun trap.

    I would refrain from speaking of him, until we know EVERYTHING about him.

  15. avatarChubby says:

    Sounds like some investigative reporting on who this guy actually is is in order…..do it Robert.

  16. avatarJohnnyNRA says:

    Tomorrow, you and I get our first look at the gun control monster President Barack Obama and his anti-gun pals have been building behind closed doors . . .

    Make no mistake — this will be the biggest fight over our gun rights in a generation, and you will have a critical role to play.
    But from the news already trickling out, I can tell you that what I’m hearing isn’t good.

    The Obama administration is preparing to launch all-out WAR on our gun rights, including:
    *** The Feinstein Gun Ban;

    *** A full-scale national gun registration scheme hidden under the guise of “background checks;”

    *** A total ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
    All in all, there are 19 anti-gun measures President Obama will pursue.

    You and I have to FIGHT BACK with everything we have.

    The future of our gun rights will depend on it.

    For Freedom,

    Dudley Brown
    Executive Vice President
    P.S. The Obama administration is preparing to launch all-out WAR on our gun rights. You and I will get our first look at their gun control monster tomorrow.

    Make no mistake — this will be the biggest fight over our gun rights in a generation.

    In fact, U.S. Senator and NAGR member Rand Paul has thrown down the gauntlet.

    • avatarEPTinFLA says:

      If we still have a republic come high noon on January 20, 2017, I hope that Rand Paul is taking the oath, with Marco Rubio or Allen West as his Vice President.

  17. avatarJohnnyNRA says:

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    OPCON of any forces that remain at the incident.

  18. avatarJAS says:

    And sadly, the bumper stickers will work…. They are organized and ready to plow the 2A under. Any ideas?

  19. avatarAlphaGeek says:

    Don’t underestimate the impact of this stuff, folks. This is a well funded national level campaign to split the gun-owner base. I’m subscribed to most of these email lists and I’m warning you that this one has legs. They’ve been beating the anti-NRA drum for two solid weeks now, which is a freaking eternity by modern standards.

    • avataranonymous says:

      > Don’t underestimate the impact of this stuff, folks.

      Self-Defense Tip: DABDA
      Posted on December 2, 2012 by Robert Farago

      Most gun gurus’ have a simple, mostly effective answer to the standing still problem: dial-up your situational awareness before the incident goes critical. Have a plan ready-to-go. If you’re prepared to move before you have to move you’re far more likely to move when you have to.

      This theory rests on the bedrock of Col. John Boyd’s OODA loop: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act. That’s how we all process information. If your OODA loop is faster than the bad guy’s OODA loop you might be able to knock him for a loop, and live to tell the tale. The key to OODA loop speed is practice.

      The anti-gunners have been running cirlces inside our OODA loop.

      Two months into this and the pro-gun groups are still way behind the curve. I can’t even say we’ve been reactionary, becuase we haven’t figured out how to react yet.

    • avataranonymous says:

      AlphaGeek says:
      January 24, 2013 at 22:25

      Yep. Obviously agree with both since this is the outcome I’ve been predicting.

      Mark my words, the self-defeating AWB 2.0 dog-and-pony show will look like the easy part by the time this cycle is over. Defeating the mag capacity limits is going to be seriously fracking hard, because it is way less objectionable to some of the pro-2A legislators than AWB 2.0.

      Folks, our OODA loop is substantially behind the confiscators on the magazine capacity limits. We need to work on framing the argument in terms that work in our favor. We need sound bites and well-honed arguments that leave the opposition speechless.

      I’m deeply concerned that we are starting off behind in the real battle to retain our full 2A rights.

      The magazine ban is a perfect example of where our side has failed.

      The David Gregory kerfuffle was a godsend for our side. His crime was broadcast on TV. Yet the Washington D.C. attorney general refused to press charges, going on the record as stating that prosecution of David Gregory for illegally possessing a 30-round AR-15 magazine

      would not promote public safety nor serve the best interests of the people“.

      We could not have asked for a better sound-bite. There should have been ads using the A.G.’s words running on TV and radio. Six-weeks later, where are those ads?

      “No magazine ban should be allowed to pass as long as David Gregory remains a free man.”

      That that is a message the NRA, GOA, SAF, etc. will never broadcast, probably due to “professional courtesy” among Washington insiders.

      • avatartdiinva says:

        No magazine limit will pass the House. I don’t see why Second Amendment supporters continue to fall for this meme. It is as if you want it to happen.

  20. avatarDaniel Silverman says:

    This is why more than ever we need to put the pressure on the politicians.

  21. avatarDon says:

    Well, he’s right about one thing, the NRA doesn’t speak for the vast majority of Americans… They speak for those of us who have hired them for about $35 per person per year to speak for us.

  22. avatarJohnnyNRA says:

    OATH KEEPERS MOLON LABE PLEDGE

    We will never disarm. We will never surrender our military pattern, semi-automatic rifles and the full capacity magazines, parts, and ammunition that go with them. The fundamental purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the military power of We the People so we will have effective means to resist tyranny. Regardless of what unholy, unconstitutional filth issues from the mouths of oath breakers in “Mordor on the Potomac” our answer is MOLON LABE.

    Sign a pledge

    • avatarTodd Bowden says:

      I’m curious.

      Can you give me an example of an act of tyranny by the government (other than limiting your ability to own whatever firearm you want) that you would need to protect yourself from?

  23. avatarJohnnyNRA says:

    My traces are red, my guns freshly blued; guess I did the best the blood lies on those who those who put these bills through. .

  24. avatarSilver says:

    They can FOAD.

    • avatarJohnnyNRA says:

      Yeah its hard to believe that the acts tyranny or from fools who don’t even know the acts of treason their committing.

  25. avatarJoe E says:

    I am a gun owner. I am conservative not a republican. I live in Ohio. The NRA does not speak for me any more. Those guys endorsed Ted Strickland in the last election cycle for Gov of state. An Obama clone! How can anyone give financial support to a group that wants to elect people who have shown total contempt for 2nd amendment, ie: Strickland/Obama?

    Strickland also was Obama’s lead man in Ohio for the 2012 election cycle.

    Move on and Obama/Strickland are the same people. How does the NRA explain that? I asked them the question. I was basically told to go away.

  26. avatarGreg Camp says:

    Let’s keep this simple: The NRA and other similar civil rights organizations do speak for me.

  27. avatarJim D says:

    His bumper sticker must read “I am a hand puppet of George Soros”

  28. avatarJohnnyNRA says:

    WHAT!

    .CON.RES.107 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high… (Introduced in House – IH)
    Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

    Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution

  29. avatarWilliam says:

    I wish those frackers would stop spamming me. I also get spammed to death by Nancy Pelosi, the White House, Michelle Obama and countless others. I hope their computers blow the hell up.

  30. avatarMy Name Is Bob says:

    I wish these jerks would all go live in the gun free utopia of England, instead of trying to push this BS here.

  31. avatarstewart says:

    The NRA does not speak for me either!

    I lived through one of America’s wars to tell about it, I aint leavin and nor am I going to sit back and watch a bunch of gun obsessed nut jobs threaten our way of life!

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