Universal background checks is gun control speak for gun registration. The NRA waffles on the subject—as you’d expect. They have a hard time arguing against an extension of the current FBI background check system because they supported its creation. “We need to fix the current system first” may be a politically palatable prevarication, but it masks the truth: the current background check system is the proverbial camel’s nose under the tent for federal firearms registration. (Which already exists through the ATF’s log book requirement). In fact, “below the radar” private gun sales are how ALL gun sales should be. Below the government radar. Because if they’re not, Canada. And worse. ‘Nuff said?
I also fin it funny that fascist like Obama like AR-15s and all semi autos banned. BUT in Canada you can own a AR-15 and other semi-auto firearms, mag limit yes (5rd allowed for hunting) But Canada goes against some of the antigunners logic.
You can own a Norinco AR copy called the CQ in Canada.
You can own shotguns of any barrel length without onerous paperwork requirements and tax stamps too.
You cannot hunt with an AR or any other Restricted Weapon (pistols and most patrol rifles (with a few quirky exceptions like the Tavor). You can only lock them up at hom and transport them to the range (assuming you have the proper transport permit). 10 rd limit for pistols and 5 for rifles. No baby pistols – Glock 26 et al have barrels too short and are banned.
Well, its not like you can carry so I guess there’s not much point in having small pistols anyways.
Yes, What is needed is no restriction gun sales. With many people packin then, help is just seconds & a bullet away, Randy
All in due time.
Look at how long those Canadians had their rights trampled before fixing things at the ballot box. The message is you can either lay down and take it, and play the long game and try to fix things, or you can fight. One guy fought, on paper, and lost, and now he is losing everything.
The Canadian long gun registry was one of the most expensive policy mistakes the Canadian government ever made.
The only people who still support it are the provincial government of Quebec, which believes in a good many goofy, expensive policies that don’t pan out.
The AR15 is a “Restricted Weapon” in Canada. This means the only place it can be used is at the range. Can’t be taken into the field for hunting.
There’s not really much good about Canada’s gun laws. The really draconian stuff started back in ’78 and each law made the situation for gun owners worse. That bill proposed in WA state (now withdrawn) to allow law enforcement to ‘inspect’ your gun storage… that has been law in Canada for many years.
The present federal gov’t is run by the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC). But the leader appears not so conservative. He rejected his own committee’s recommendation to ease the gun laws. See http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-rejects-committees-advice-to-relax-gun-laws/article6033474/
Take what Brian Lilley says very seriously. Because once you lose your freedoms, you will never get them back. It’s the primary reason I left Canada. For good.
It’s very telling when Canada teaches the US about gun laws. We also have the UK and Australia as examples of emotional legislating gone amok.
They should simply make the background check system like the E-verify system. Anyone who wants to sell a gun gets on the web site, enters the buyers info and it says eligible or not eligible and thats that.
Unfortunately, it does not work that way, and was never intended to work that way. It was always intended to morph into universal gun registration over time. It should be eliminated as costly and ineffective.
If the time and money spent on background checks was spent insuring that violent criminals were really disarmed, we and our rights would be much safer.
Can we drop the “universal background check” bullshit already?
It already infringes upon the 4th and 5 th amendment rights.
Yes. Not to mention the 2nd, 9th, and 10th.
The only nice thing about Canadian firearms laws is that they aren’t so paranoid about foreigners owning guns. To bring a gun into Canada (Other than prohibited guns) all one has to do is fill out a simple form, at the border. (According to this) For the United States, you need an advance permit, which requires one to have a hunting license, or a registration for a shooting event, and must be filed with the ATF in advance. (see here) Other than that, it sounds like a slightly eviler version of California.
Yes, while the AR15 is restricted in Canada and limited to range-only use, we don’t have to go through the NFA and $200 tax stamp hassles for anything under a 16″ barrel. In addition, we have quite a few black rifles that are non-restricted which makes them eligible for hunting, shooting or transporting anywhere: Tavor, FS2000, XCR-L, ACR, PS90, Swiss Arms just to name a few.
Make no mistake: Any firearms registration leads to reclassification and confiscation. It’s not a question of “if”, but “when”.
Absolutely, registration will lead to confiscation and the very best one can hope for is to be grandfathered. But even then, the gov’t will screw you. I had a Norinco AK47 clone (semi-auto only of course) and a nice FN L1A1 that overnight, became Restricted Weapons, then a couple years later, Prohibited Weapons, then a short time later, a prohib with NO permission to take it to the range. All by Order in Council, because some statist in the (in)Justice Dept decided they are too scary looking. IOW, my two rifles became nothing more than a paperweight or doorstop. You are not permitted to take those firearms (and others they classified as ‘prohibited long guns’) to the range. Period. So while the gov’t didn’t “confiscate” them, they are absolutely useless because they cannot be used anywhere (full autos started down that path in ’78 with law C51 by the Liberal Gov’t).
I have been involved with the FED-UP I and II rallies, tens of thousands of gun owners marching on the Hill in Ottawa to protest law C68 but it was all a waste of time. And now Harper rejects his own committee recommendations to ease the draconian laws. Canada does not have a 2nd Amendment (in fact, NO property rights enshrined) so it was/is doomed to go the same way as England and Australia (not quite there just yet but the writing is on the wall). The USA must never, ever allow gov’t thugs to take away the RKBA. If RKBA falls, other rights will follow. I sure didn’t move here to see the US go down the Canadian path. I’ve already joined the NRA and am doing everything I can. Every gun owner should be!
Note that the idea of universal background checks isn’t presented as an attempt at compromise. If a system were set up whereby buyers enter their information and an answer–yes or no–pops up on the screen with no record made, I’d have no major objection to this, but in response to such a waste of time, I want something in return. Eliminating the ATF form and bound books, for example.
Whenever gun control freaks yammer about compromise, ask what they’re willing to give in return. The answer is invariably nothing.
Universal background checks aren’t the solution, either. Criminals will simply get what they need on the black market, steal it or utilize a straw buyer (as we saw recently in NY). And until we start marking the mentally insane with a scarlet “I”, it’s going to be pretty hard to detect or deter them (especially if they lift firearms from legitimate owners).
Take it from your Northern neighbours: Firearms owners threw “assault weapon” owners under the bus in the vain hope that they’d be spared. We say AR15s restricted en-masse, a magazine limit of 5 rounds and numerous other firearms prohibited and seized without compensation.
Lo and behold, within a few short years they came for the turncoats as well in the form of a national firearms registry. It’s taken us 2 decades to even begin to start repealing and undoing the damage (which did substantial damage to our firearms industry).
Give an inch, and they’ll be back tomorrow for another inch. It’s death by 1,000 cuts.
I got a better idea still-Don’t do *ANY* new gun laws, we have enough BS to put up with as is!