BREAKING: Sandy Hook Spree Killer Changed Magazines “Multiple Times”

 

“As police wrap up at least the crime-scene portion of their investigation into Lanza’s murderous spree that left 26 people dead in the school, including 20 first-graders, the earplugs [found at the scene] are not the only evidence that shows Lanza might have carried habits either from the shooting range or the virtual world of video games into his real-world massacre,” courant.com reports, oddly. “Lanza changed magazines frequently as he fired his way through the first-grade classrooms of Lauren Rousseau and Victoria Soto, sometimes shooting as few as 15 shots from a 30-round magazine, sources said.” Well that ought to change the debate over magazine capacity legislation. Or not. More info after the jump . . .

Investigators have not said how many shots Lanza fired with the Bushmaster semiautomatic rifle after he entered the school by firing half a dozen rounds through the glass at the school entrance. Sources said that he fired approximately 150 rounds during the shooting spree.

[NB: TTAG's sources report that the killer fired 76 rounds before his Bushmaster AR experienced a "stovepipe" at which point the killer threw his gun away.]

Besides the earplugs, he was wearing all black clothes under a drab olive green utility vest with pockets filled with 30-round magazines for the Bushmaster.

Which means that even without the AR in his hands, Lanza would have stood out walking up to Sandy Hook. FWIW. [h/t RC]

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116 Responses to BREAKING: Sandy Hook Spree Killer Changed Magazines “Multiple Times”

  1. avatarAlphaGeek says:

    If anyone is still on the fence about whether tac vest == gun toting crazy to the masses, I hope this clarifies things.

    No matter how bad the S may HTF in the US, if you are spotted on the streets in a tac or LBE vest, law enforcement is NOT going to smile and wave as they drive on past.

    • avatartdiinva says:

      You guys can stop laughing at my LL Bean CCW clothing now. When officer friendly sees me he thinks “there goes another preppie gun grabber.”

      I think I am going to have my Winchester model 70s modified for stripper clips.

      • avatarAlphaGeek says:

        You already know we’re in the same camp on low-profile wearables, so I won’t belabor that. I’m just waiting for the next Filson sale to move even further down the curve.

        I’ve been looking at the various designs for levergun speed-loaders and can’t help but think I could do something better. I’ve got some ideas for a box-magazine-fed device that pushes one round through the gate every time you squeeze-and-release.

        • avatartdiinva says:

          I know that. I was just reinforcing the point. I am not geeky enough to figure out how make a speed loader for Winchester style lever gun but I think I can do one for a Henry.

        • avatarRalph says:

          No matter what I wear, if officer Krupke sees me he’s going to think “what a kindly looking OFWG. I wonder if he needs help crossing the street.”

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          Ralph, just make sure the cop doesn’t do the classic “one hand on the elbow, one hand on the small of the back” thing when he helps you along.

          Alternatively, just warn them that you have some disgusting medical appliance strapped to your back…

        • avatarLeo338 says:

          He can claim he has a colostomy bag back there. I guarantee they would not touch him after that.

  2. avatarPatrick Shockley says:

    With the average size of a classroom probably being around 15+ he may have even changed mags while in the middle of shooting up a room (some people were shot multiple times).

  3. avatarnotI says:

    Just got a nice DSLR for Xmas.
    Now that have new hobby, family will know what to buy.

    I’ll make sure that nobody buys me a Photographer’s Vest.

    Word to our fishing colleagues…..

    • avatarIn Memphis says:

      High hook capacity fishing lures are next. No one needs more than one hook to catch a fish.

      • avatarAlphaGeek says:

        Pretty sure California already has laws on the books to limit the number of hooks per line when fishing off the coast.

        True story.

        • avatarLogan P says:

          Generally in Minnesota it’s the same, except for lures. A lure counts as one hook.

          Then again, in some lakes lure hook capacity is limited, and in some others the hooks may not have barbs.

        • avatarWA_2A says:

          California: The genetic trashcan of the United States where those who didn’t make the evolutionary cut feed off the rest of the country.

          The government, anyways. Plenty of good folks live in California, I guess, though why I’ll never know.

  4. avatarBrad says:

    So did he or didn’t he have an AR15. It’s been reported both ways and now this.

    • avatarRobert Farago says:

      No question he had a Bushmaster AR-15. Early reports said two handguns only. The video of the cops pulling a long gun from the trunk of his Honda misled people into thinking that was his AR (it as a Remington 870). The initial bad info kept on recirculating. And will do. Forever.

      • avatarBill says:

        I saw the video and it looked like a Saiga 12 shotgun with a Dragunov style stock.

      • avatarAlphaGeek says:

        And the conspiracy theorists, who somehow manage to simultaneously think that a story should be reported with perfect accuracy AND be available to the public instantly, as it happens — they’ll look at every new detail or clarification as vindication of their suspicions that it’s all a big cover-up.

        Time and experience have taught me that playing whack-a-mole against conspiracy theorists is just as fruitful as whack-a-mole against legislators pushing gun control, but there are days (like today) when it’s REEEAL hard not to walk down that road.

        • avatarBarstow Cowboy says:

          I’m with you about the conspiracy theorists. Late night AM radio open lines had multiple people outlining a grand conspiracy that had Lanza as a psychotic, satanic, drug addled patsy. Of course this is all part of a larger thing, and it’s all being controlled by a small group of elites bent on something not yet entirely clear, BUT it ain’t good…it makes me wonder if these people believe that anything real ever happened at all ever anywhere in the history of man. Still though, ya gotta wonder why that principal buzzed in a guy with a 3′ long rifle and an ammo carrier vest…

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          It’s not clear to me that he actually was buzzed in. There are conflicting reports, some of which say that he shot through the window into the area with the access controls. I’m still waiting to see some reliable evidence presented either way.

          If he did get buzzed in, it’s not clear what his outward appearance was at that moment. Did he have a coat over his tac vest? Was his rifle discreetly slung behind him, with only a plain nylon strap showing?

          I’d really like to see the security camera footage from the secured front portal area. That would tell us an awful lot about his tactics and the weak points of the school’s portal security.

        • avatarWLCE says:

          right, conspiracy theory.

          you two let me know when you wake the f–k up.

          http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/12/28/agenda-prevails-over-truth/

      • avatarWLCE says:

        no question he had a AR15?

        please point me in the right direction that indicates this.

        • avatarSaul Feldstein says:

          The anti conspiracy nuts sure will bend over backwards to explain away the unexplainable.

          For instance, how did a retard whose mother allegedly had to drive him everywhere drive himself to the school, dressed like Rambo, and not attract attention? Initial reports stated he had a “driver.” Did this Ritalin junkie even know how to drive?

          Oh, sorry, dont want to seem like a “conspiracy nut” but asking obvious questions about these gaping holes in an obviously bizarre story with no forthcoming information from “officials.”

          In fact, we should never question the authorities, they know what is best for us.

        • avatarWLCE says:

          http://sgtreport.com/2012/12/so-many-questions-too-few-answers-was-the-sandy-hook-massacre-an-organzied-false-flag-operation/

          “At 44 seconds, the police relay a teacher’s report that she saw “two shadows running past the gym”. [Now keep in mind that according to the 'official' story the "lone" shooter has killed himself.] At 55 seconds, the police officer reports a van coming toward him with two occupants, he then says at 1 minute 30 seconds he has them “proned out” (lying on the ground face down). At approximately 2 minutes, they report the New Jersey plates of the van, and the rental car company registration. These two men are in addition to the ONE man dressed in camo pants who the police arrested in the woods near the school. That makes THREE men in addition to the “lone gunman” Adam Lanza. QUESTIONS: WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE MEN? WHO ARE THEY?”

          as usual nobody asks any questions. just like they didnt ask questions about the oklahoma city bombing or 9/11.

          anybody that asks questions is labeled a “conspiracy theorist”. Sorry, i dont deal with conspiracy theory, i deal with conspiracy fact.

  5. avatarjwm says:

    And if you were in the school and saw him walking up to the front in his battle rattle and gun? By law you were unarmed. By law, he was supposed to be unarmed. Would you have pointed out the “Gun Free Zone” sign as he blasted his way into the school?

    Mikeyb, Hmmmmm, Low Budget Dave, WC. In your heart you know that if you had been there watching Lanza walk to the school you would have wished to have a gun of your own to fight back with.

    No gun laws being proposed now will be in place, provided they even get enacted and survive legal challenges, before the next Lanza starts his walk.

    This isn’t England, Italy or Australia. The clock is ticking, Lanza is approaching and our kids go back to school tomorrow.

    • Guys like MikeB would have ran to the nearest phone and called the cops, then he would have huddle himself in a corner and waited for the cavalry to come and rescue him without ever giving a second though about the kids being slaughter on the adjacent rooms. Guys like mike think that things like these should be left to professionals to handle and even if he would have had a gun (which by the way would have made him a hypocrite) he wouldn’t have used it cause once again this things are better left to professionals. He probably would have made for a great distant witness.

    • avatarJoke & Dagger says:

      That’s what worries me more than anything else, JWM. The media and politico firestorm does nothing but encourage these whack jobs. Arm the rest of our unarmed schools ASAP, please.

  6. avatarMr aNINNYmouse says:

    Again, this is a double-edged sword…..

    Detachable mags + semiauto = …. Salivating Antis.

    How do you counter the obvious arguments coming out of this new information?

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      What new information? You mean the fact that he did all this with, apparently, just a few more rounds per magazine than the proposed ban would allow?

      The Bushmaster AR-class rifle is already the Devil’s personal firearm, as far as the press and the antis are concerned. That happened weeks ago.

      It was already known that the school murders were committed with .223 rounds.

      If anything, this is a huge setback for the push to restrict magazines to 10-round capacity. The only way it could be any more obvious that the 10-round thing is idiocy is if the murderer had used some 10-round mags.

      • avatarMr aNINNYmouse says:

        As a Kalifonian AK owner (with stupid bullet buttons and grip wraps), I have to say that this kind of info might be used to push for a ban on all detachable mags.

  7. avatarCigr says:

    Pockets are clearly a problem here. Legislation needs to be passed immediately banning the sale of clothing with more than 2 pockets.

    • avatarMr aNINNYmouse says:

      Just what kind of evil things are you hiding in your high-capacity pockets?

      • avatarIn Memphis says:

        I guess I could choke someone with the dime in my pocket or fling it at their eye then jump them as they react?

        • avatarC says:

          Hey, that’s nothing to joke about! A penny out of a slingshot hurts like hell!

        • avatarspeedracer5050 says:

          A quarter with the edges filed down and carried in the watch pocket!!
          Assault Change!!! OMG!!!

        • avatarjwm says:

          you ought to try a penny out of a frying pan. Set the flame at medium and wait a little. Hilarity will insue.

        • avatarRopingdown says:

          speedracer, that’s Change You Can Believe In.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      Stop giving the CA legislature ideas. They’ll ban the sale of clothing with readily accessible pockets shaped to fit AR magazines. (I’m only 51% kidding.)

  8. avatarborekfk says:

    The stories have been changed and modified so many times, I don’t believe any story about this any more. As far as I’m concerned every story that comes out of this shooting is just to create more Anti-2A sentiment.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      That’s how the news works. The stories start out muddled and conflicting, then things clarify a bit, then the meticulously careful people who have to get things absolutely right because there are serious legal ramifications if they don’t (aka crime scene investigators) release their reports.

      Do try to get out of that basement and talk to real people every now and then. It’ll be good for you.

  9. avatarDave S says:

    Brad, the bushmaster is a maker of AR 15 lower receivers.
    todays MSR modern sporting rifle or AR 15s are very much mix and match assembly jobs coming with different barrel assemblies, sight configurations, lights/lasers/optics, and different stocking options..

    So yes the subject had an AR 15 type weapon, with at least the lower receiver made by bushmaster.

  10. avatarShooter says:

    Hey guys check out Joe Biden’s new proposals. I actually support them. I would be much happier with this instead of a mag ban or AWB.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-gun-control-biden-task-force-heidi-heitkamp-assault-weapons-ban-2013-1

    • avatarJames1000 says:

      Make no mistake…they will do everything they can to institute an AWB.

    • avatarRoss says:

      Shooter…………. really, Biden is a fool he will come out supporting all the gun bans proposed and even ones that haven’t when it all said and done.

    • avatarMechman says:

      That’s on TOP of the AWB/mag ban, not instead.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      Every time someone posts a “death to all Democrats” screed I’m going to post a link to this article along with a quote from Heidi Heitkamp.

      Yeah, I’m lookin’ at YOU, Ralph.

      • avatarLance says:

        Show not all Dems will be for a AWB so support ones who side with us this is NOT a partisan issue its for all americans to keep arms no matter what they look like.

      • avatarRalph says:

        Pointing to one Democrat who supports 2A is like pointing to Spud Webb and saying that dwarves are good at basketball.

        And AlphaGeek, DON’T EYEBALL ME!

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          Yes, sir. Sorry, sir. I’ll go back to staring at the spot where your hair used to be.

          Counterpoint: this particular Democrat is a Senator, not some House back-bencher.

          Counterpoint 2, 3, etc. for pro-gun Democrats in the Senate:
          Jon Tester, D-MT
          Max Baucus, D-MT
          Harry Reid, D-NV
          Mark Begich, D-AK
          Mark Pryor, D-AL
          Tim Johnson, D-SD

          I know this may fall on deaf ears, but my personal opinion from watching Harry Reid’s work closely over the last few years is that he’s done more to kill bad gun laws in the cradle than anyone else on Capitol Hill. He does it quietly, without drama, so there tends to not be a lot of media attention on his actions.

        • avatarRalph says:

          First of all, I have plenty of hair, and most of it is on my head.

          Second of all, “don’t eyeball me” is a famous line from “An officer and a Gentleman.”

          Third, here’s the party platform on guns from your beloved Democrats:

          Right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements–like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole–so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.
          Source: 2012 Democratic Party Platform , Sep 4, 2012

          Reauthorize assault weapons ban, close gun show loophole
          We will protect Americans’ Second Amendment right to own firearms, and we will keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists by fighting gun crime, reauthorizing the assault weapons ban, and closing the gun show loophole, as President Bush proposed and failed to do.
          Source: The Democratic Platform for America, p.18 , Jul 10, 2004

          Strengthen gun control to reduce violence
          Democrats passed the Brady Law and the Assault Weapons Ban. We increased federal, state, and local gun crime prosecution by 22 percent since 1992. Now gun crime is down by 35 percent. Now we must do even more. We need mandatory child safety locks. We should require a photo license I.D., a background check, and a gun safety test to buy a new handgun. We support more federal gun prosecutors and giving states and communities another 10,000 prosecutors to fight gun crime.

      • avatarChuck says:

        When the rubber meets the road, democrats all fall in line regardless of consequences. Just like they did for Obamacare. They knew they stood a very good chance of losing the House after that vote. They did it anyway. Losing the House for 4 or 6 or even 10 years was a small price to pay to get to that next rung on the socialist ladder, because they knew like Social Security and all other entitlements it would never be repealed. If they get the chance to do the same with gun control, just watch the SOB’s fall in line.

    • avatarPascal says:

      Compared to Fienstiens proposal, I will take Biden’s which effectively does nothing.

    • avatarJamie in ND says:

      I live in North Dakota & trust me on this, Heidi Heitkamp will support a new AWB & a ban on mags over 10 rnds…count on it! When you vote again in two years remember what party introduced 8 anti-2nd Amendment bills on the first day of the 113th congress. Hint: they all have a (D) by their name, wake up!

  11. avatarMikeP says:

    This smacks of “video game” reloads. Most “gamers” are very familiar with those magic feeding devices, always topped-off no matter how many times you pound the “reload” button after firing just a few rounds.

    As for the political fallout, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the grabbers use this to say we have to give up detachable mags altogether. Just too easy to reload. Then when they notice how quickly a top-feeding fixed magazine can be charged with a stripper clip, it’s time to give up magazines altogether – single-shot only. Next step will be the cartridge itself. And what’s with that high-capacity powder horn, there, buster!?

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      This smacks of “video game” reloads. Most “gamers” are very familiar with those magic feeding devices, always topped-off no matter how many times you pound the “reload” button after firing just a few rounds.

      That seems about right, actually. When you drop a mag and load a new one in a game, all of the remaining rounds in the dropped mag are magically available in your inventory. Given the killer’s reported reality disconnects, I’m 100% willing to believe that in his world that’s how it was supposed to work.

      Regarding the political fallout: I’m 100% in disagreement. This will be a serious blow to the magazine-capacity bans, as it plainly illustrates that no restriction likely to pass SCOTUS review would have done anything to lessen the tragedy at Newtown.

      • avatarLogan P says:

        It’s the magical Dump Pouch Gremlins™.

      • avatarإبليس says:

        “Brothers In Arms” ditched this fantasy. Dump a mag and the mag is gone for realzz.

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          Heh. I bet you could definitively prove that games sell better when (Logan, I’m going shamelessly steal this) the Dump Pouch Gremlins magically reconsolidate ammo from dropped partial mags into whole fresh new ones.

      • avatarSoftwareCowboy says:

        Your faith in logic is admirable, but not very realistic in my opinion. In my experience, emotionally driven demands to “do something” trumps logic in the majority of people. Politicians do what gets them re-elected and if that means ignoring logic and reality, then logic and reality be damned.

        That is the whole reason Obama and company are pushing to get something through now. They know they need the emotion to win the day.

        Make no mistake, they mean to win and will not take any loss as permanent. The price of our freedom is eternal vigilance.

    • avatarIn Memphis says:

      Guess I’ll head down to Wally World next pay day and get a muzzle loader

      • avatarspeedracer5050 says:

        From personal experience my .50cal muzzle loader with 75 – 100 grains of Triple Seven and 2 1/2 ounces of #00 buckshot in a light cloth pouch makes for a hell of a close range(inside 25yrds) single shot shotgun!!!

        • avatarMike S says:

          I don’t doubt it. 100 grains of triple seven behind a 250gr bullet is a hammer on whitetail.

        • avatarspeedracer5050 says:

          100grs of triple seven behind a 295 or 310 gr sabot round will take down most any deer or wild hog!!

  12. avatarjake45 says:

    A 1/2 gallon glass bottle full of gasoline with a flaming rag sticking out of the top can rack up a hefty body count. What can Di Fi do to ban that?

  13. avatarAccur81 says:

    I see the antis continuing after standard capacity mags and trying to cram fixed magazines and / or bullet buttons on the nation.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      Let’s not kid ourselves — they’re doing everything they can to defeat bullet buttons and any other reasonable work-around. I’m sure you’ve seen Leland “goatblower” Yee’s latest attempt to tighten up the California AWB.

  14. avatarSivartius says:

    I personally am just about the spitting image of what Mikeb and his friends view as the “medium-term” gun owner. I only own two guns a Winchester bolt-action single shot .22 rifle and a break-action shotgun. I cannot afford a handgun, and the chances of me beeing able to buy one in the near to medium term are very slim. I just MIGHT be able to buy a Mossin-Nagant in a few months if things break just right and the stars align. Because my Dad died when I was very young and my Mom grew up in an anti-gun home, I have never been hunting, and I’ve never been taught how to use a gun, aside from the class needed to get my hunting license once and three very short church activities that had guns IN MY LIFE. Until very recently, I bought the “common-sense” gun wisdom of his crowd. I’m also constantly derided by those (outside of at church,) around my for my position on this and other social and economic issues. I probably would be denied under Mike’s rule, becaus I have/had ADD, and used to take Ridalin. But other than that, imagine you children and/or grandchildren in my place. That’s what Mike wants. That is his vision of the future.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      Sivartius, when you feel comfortable sharing what state you live in, I bet you’ll find folks here willing to go shooting with you. Odds are pretty good that you’ll find plenty of support to get you out hunting, too.

      • avatarSivartius says:

        I live in California. In Butte County.

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          You’re within driving distance of at least a half-dozen regularly-appearing commenters at TTAG. If you can, you should show up to the gun-rights rally in Sacramento on the 19th and introduce yourself to TTAG regular Sanchanim, who I believe has signed on to be the organizer.

          EDIT: And if you find yourself in the Bay Area, I’d be happy to meet up with you at Reed’s, Chabot, or Livermore-Pleasanton Gun Club for some range time.

        • avatarLance says:

          smelly place LOL

        • avatarSivartius says:

          AlphaGeek, I hope to be there for the protest. I’ve actually never been to San Fran, but I’d love to hook up and do some shooting.

        • avatarAccur81 says:

          Hey AG, keep me posted as well. That’s a long drive for me, but that could be pretty cool.

    • avatarSivartius says:

      Sorry. This was meant to go in the MikeB topic.

  15. avatarDavid says:

    Federal Law 18 U.S.C. 926 (2) (a)) being:
    No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

    • avatarRalph says:

      It says no “rule or regulation . . . may require” It does not say “no law . . . may require.” It puts the clamps of the ATF acting by rule or regulation. It doesn’t put the clamps on Congress.

      • avatarAnon in CT says:

        It couldn’t even if it wanted to. Any ordinary legislation may be overturned by subsequent legislation.

        But you knew that counselor.

  16. avatarSupero100 says:

    Looks like they’re teeing up to blame videogames too.

    A real one-two punch to the bill of rights.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      I wouldn’t worry too much about my friends in the videogame industry. Have you SEEN the sales figures for recent blockbusters like Black Ops and COD? They’re outgrossing 99.9% of the movies that Hollywood makes these days. Believe you me, they have some SERIOUS lobbyists on the payroll.

      • avatarDracon1201 says:

        News flash: about 60% of the people that buy those don’t have rights cause they are foreign sales figures added in. About 70% of the remaining don’t really have rights or a say because they are under 18. They could do a ban just like Australia.

    • avatarWA_2A says:

      Actually, NRA VP Wayne LaPierre also brought up video games as a problem, along with other things.

      http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16069537-nra-blames-media-music-and-more-for-culture-of-violence?lite

      This is why I have a love/hate relationship with the NRA. On one hand, they’re the most well-funded, well-known, and largest gun rights group in the country, and they have the attention of the media…on the other hand, most of that attention is negative and they do dumb sh*t like this.

      • avatarAlphaGeek says:

        That’s because Wayne is far too clueless to be the spokesman for the NRA. I know plenty of folks his age who live in the same era as I do, and have kept up with how things have changed. Unfortunately he came across as a crotchety grandpa shaking his cane about gangster rappers making songs about killing cops 20 years after that was a thing.

        • avatarWA_2A says:

          That is true. The NRA needs new management. Someone who will get the job done and not sound like an out-of-touch OFWG. Cpl. Boston. Larry Pratt. Tom Selleck. Maybe even Bruce Willis.

    • avatarOHgunner says:

      But the founding fathers could never have envisioned that one day we would have video games, so they obviously aren’t protected under the bill of rights! Ban them! For the children!

      • avatarWA_2A says:

        There is no earthly reason why anyone would need entertainment devices designed to kill thousands of virtual characters!

        • avatarAlphaGeek says:

          I’m in serious trouble if the media ever gets hold of my body count figures from Assassin’s Creed or Borderlands. Pretty sure my headshot stats from Borderlands alone would cause a panic that resulted in hunting rifles being declared NFA Destructive Devices.

        • avatarspeedracer5050 says:

          Oh Crap!! Hope they don’t find my head shot counts and sniper rifle runs on HALO and F.E.A.R!!!
          Man I guess I will have to hide my IP, subnet mask,etc!!!
          Glad I don’t play Brothers In Arms and Medal Of Honor online.
          But my Gran Tourismo 1-5 records may get my drivers license suspended!!! Oh well, gas, like ammo, is too damn expensive anyways!!!

        • avatarWA_2A says:

          All video game consoles capable of storing more than 2 GB of data are considered “Assault Entertainment Devices” and must be registered as NFA items. In addition, each citizen needs a license to buy games, and must go through an NICS background check for each purchase (CLOSE THE GameStop LOOPHOLE!). No one may own no more than 5 games. If you currently own over 5 games you must turn them in at a compulsory police buyback.

        • avatarjwm says:

          Sucks to be you guys. I’m completely under the radar on video games. Never bought, owned or played one. The G knows nothing about me and my unregistered deck of cards and scrabble board.

      • avatarWLCE says:

        oh you mean ban them like germany and australia???

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia

  17. avatarzero says:

    So what happens if someone fires back and hits one of those loaded magazines on his chest?

    • avatarEric says:

      The magazine would probably break, but the rounds would not detonate. The brass may dent, crack, split, leak powder, but they won’t go off or explode.

    • avatarLogan P says:

      From what I understand, he’ll explode into a bajillion itty-bitty pieces and then suddenly all the bullets will go off and kill everything. Ya know, because science.

      Of course I kid.

  18. avatarEric says:

    Wasn’t the vest he wore originally (mis-)reported as “body armor”, just like in Aurora?

    • avatarLogan P says:

      Yes it was, and yes it always will be when someone wears any form of battle rattle in a situation such as this.

    • avatarIn Memphis says:

      One day some freak will go on a spree wearing a camofauge sports bra and matching bikini bottom. The media will say he was in full tactical gear.

  19. avatarLance says:

    Find it weird that they attack mag capacity when this shows he never shot 30rds at a time he kept changing mags so 10rd mags would not have stopped him. Shows we and the NRA have the facts it does not support AWBs and mag bans.

    Also find it weird CT has a ban on mags over 10rds so bans did nothing to stop the murders and pics of the AR show it a circa 2003 AR, min Y-comp muzzle brake and fixed stock with no bayonet lug. so the 1994 law did nothing on the murders.

  20. avatarSanchanim says:

    So let’s do some simply math shall we…
    lets round up from the only major report we have had so 80 rounds.
    At ten rounds a mag, assuming we had the law in place, he would need 8 magazines, and if you were in the military you know you clip them together so he needed four pockets to carry them all, along with two on the rifle, and that would give him a total of 100 rounds..
    I don’t think having ten rounds would have stopped him, and honestly I tell people this all the time, it is easier to count to ten than 30 when shooting and moving. So in reality it would be easier to count to nine and swap and keep on going.
    Then again people never learn…

  21. avatarRydak says:

    Doesn’t CT have a 10 rnd limit? Were they 30rnd mags blocked off to ten?

    • avatarPascal says:

      No, CT does not have a 10 round limit. Never has, and if we can get organized in this state, never will. Compared to our neighbors, we have very strict by much more sane gun laws.

      The fact remains, no law would have stopped the person who did this and when all is said and done, we will see that his mother did try to get him help but the mental health laws here have been clipped by the ACLU making it near impossible to get people with mental health issues the help they need. The ACLU supports their need to privacy over even their need to get the help they need and our politicians caved to the arguments of the ACLU last January. The law that was trying to get passed and failed would have been able to get Adam Lanza some help before all that happened — but nobody want to hear about that.

      There are a reported 600,000 people in CT with mental health issues (of a state of 3 million) and of that number 134,700 have severe mental health or social issues including violent episodes.

      Our state is basically ignoring mental health issues we have. Sadly, the last major state facility to close was about 1 mile from Sandy Hook school, At one time CT ranked as the best state with mental health system, today it is a wait to fail system that is hodge podge of systems mostly left to a few understaffed regional hospitals. The best we have in the state is Danbury Hospital which ironically served Sandy Hook and would have handled the probate hearing his mother was trying to get.

      • avatarAnna says:

        I have a 19 year old with mental health issues. He has ADD, Asperger’s and a mood disorder and I would NEVER keep weapons around that he or any of my kids could gain access to. I had a .357 when I worked in law enforcement and I had multiple locks in place to ensure that no one could get to it , but me. When my son was diagnosed with his problems, I sold it. I can’t understand why any parent of an emotionally unstable person would own an AR-15. It just seems like it would make you an automatic candidate for the DARWIN award.

  22. avatarJP in Tennessee says:

    My daughter’s school district announced Friday that they are hiring police officers to be stationed in every school for the entire school day. I love it.

    • avatarDirk Diggler says:

      my local police chief says he wants teachers and principals to tool up since his officers cannot be everwhere.

  23. avatarChase says:

    Apparently you guys are too old, but the story alludes to the fact he was reloading with half way full magazines, which is clearly something inspired by Call of Duty.

  24. avatarSantha says:

    This is my first AR and I’ve been researching all the alavlabie literature I could find. I work with some guys that also own ARs and I finally decided on the Rock River Arms LA R 15. I’ve only shot one box of ammo so far but I can say that this is going to be a lot of fun to own. I got started with a Sig Sauer 522, mainly for the price of the ammo and for the fact that my grandsons can handle it very easily. but this 5.56 is another world altogether.WHAT A BLAST. I’ll see how it goes after warming it up, if you know what I mean, Until then Be safe and enjoy the sport while we can.

  25. avatarLolinski says:

    Wouldn’t anybody report to police if they saw a guy dressed like that walking down the street. It is a bit fishy if you ask me.

  26. avatarmuh says:

    greetings from germany!
    i read this blog for quite a while and think the right to keep and bear arms is an essential right for a civilized, democratic society. look what happened to us germans after their disarming (essentially in 1972): cripling of civil rights, disrespection of the constitution by the gouvernment again and again and still shoolshootings and other stuff. strangely most germans strongly support the de-facto gun ban. i wish you the best of luck for your fight against the disarming fanatics.

    • avatarMark says:

      Danka!

      • avatarSaul Feldstein says:

        Umm, danke is the correct term, but he speaks pretty good English so THANKS.

        • avatarmuh says:

          well, i don’t think my english is very well, but thanks for that :)
          i hope one day i’ll being able to immigrate to the us (it’s a bit hard to come over …) cause i wanted to escape the EU-related extinction of democracy and freedom in europe. the EU and the national governments are wiping out freedom and civil rights in europe, if it goes as bad as i assume you’ll be one of the last free countrys in the world (maybe together with switzerland and norway *lol*), so you’ll better keep the ability to defend your freedom. facism doesn’t stop at borders …

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