There were days when you could buy cheap Israeli 30 Carbine ammo by the crate and shoot it all day long with nary a worry about price. My Dad loves telling me about it, specifically his long lazy afternoons with a M1 Carbine plinking tin cans off a fence. Those days are long gone, cheap Israeli ammo having dried up ages ago and the only thing left these days is Prvi, S&B and some other rather expensive ammo. So why you would want a rifle in 30 Carbine that isn’t an M1 or an AR-15 conversion is beyond me. But then again, it appears to be selling.

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25 Responses to Deepest Depths of Uselessness: Excel Arms X-30R in 30 Carbine

  1. An M-2 used to be my EDC, it, along with some Purple Haze was handy for breaking contact in deep cover and tacticly superior to a handgun but now, 40 years later, it is a round whose practicality is in question. The same design in a pistol cartridge like 10mm seems to be a more realistic choice.

    • This. I have an M1 carbine, and I can find some Tula .30 carbine for $17/50 online. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper than 7.62 and 5.56 these days…

      • Depending on where I buy from, Tula and Aguila are about $15 per box (plus a few bucks for shipping multiple boxes). For something bigger than a pistol caliber cabine, I’d say it’s the best bang for your buck you’re going to get.

  2. I love the M1 Carbine, and I love the .30 Carbine round. Such a peppy little round. M1 Carbines are like big overgrown pistols. I also like the Ruger Blackhawk in that round.

    And yeah, .30 Carbine has (until the panic) been easier and cheaper to find than it was for awhile. Not too bad to reload, just needs trimmed once in awhile.

  3. They released some new M1 Carbines up here with the appropriate barrel lengths but there were very few. Something like this is much more interesting to me.

  4. I love the M1 Carbine. Former Marine here. I actually shoot better with the iron sights than with a scope for the range of this rifle. The reloading of this cartridge is easy and once in a while I need to trim. I anneal the brass occasionally and that keeps the brass going. The price of .30 carbine is not what others are showing any longer so I am guessing these entries a bit old. Now-a-days the price of FMJ 110 grain .30 carbine is closer to $34/box of 50. That’s why I reload now. Reloading is ez pz with this cartridge and I use IMR 4227 for the powder. I’m now trying to hunt down a hand-gun. I’ve looked at the blackhawk but just saw the Excel Arms 30p and thought that was pretty nifty.

  5. The 30 carbine round doesn’t have the energy of the 223/5.56 or shoot as flat, but it will still mess you up bad even with fmj’s up to 150+ yards. The 30 carbines light weight mild recoil and simple compact design make it ideal for youngsters and small fframed adults. 30 carbine ammo is also not all that expensive considering it comes in boxes of 50 instead of 20 like most other rifle cartridges. Reloading is the way to go though. Components are cheap and the brass lasts a long time but frequent trimming is to be expected like a previous poster mentioned. The AR15 is better nobody is denying that, but the M1 30 carbine is not useless like the author seems to think it is.

  6. Deepest Depths of Uselessness ?
    I realize I’m finding this article almost two years after the fact but I’d say the article is what’s useless, and produced in an attitude that the gun world doesn’t need. Anything made to fire the 30 carbine round is welcome.

    • Olympic Arms use to make an AR upper in 30 Carbine. It used a special mag well adapter so you could use M1 Carbine mags. Not sure if it’s still being made…..haven’t seen it on their website. Not even sure if it was released….maybe it was just a prototype…..it’s been a while.

  7. “So why you would want a rifle in 30 Carbine that isn’t an M1 or an AR-15 conversion is beyond me. But then again, it appears to be selling.”

    Well, the only problem is they haven’t made ANY to sell. They are producing the 5.7x28mm, none in 30 carbine. I looked up their distributors (none available) and then called Excel (left messages) and e-mailed them. I got a response that it was not in production and they’d notify me when it was. gee…that was over a year ago? So a item presented at SHOT show in 2012 is not yet available as of April 2015.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  8. Why do I want anything that will shoot .30 carbine? Because the Plainfield M1 I just bought does not shoot the cheaper brand that I just happen to now have almost 500 rounds of ( American Quality Ammunition). The Plainfield also does not like the magazines (5 each) that I also just bought. I know all about the cleaning and the bolt problems. I also know that the Hornady shoots just fine in an old magazine. Cool gun, that gives me something to look forward to fix on when and if I get to retire. I can afford something else too, I just don’t want to pay over $750.00.

  9. What a dickish article, maybe the author should pull the dick out of his ass before writing one paragraph hit peices.

  10. What an uninformitive crappy “review” IF you want to call it that….

    This guy has no business reviewing anything.
    Just saying.

  11. Ive got a Gen 1 Universal M1 Ive been buying steel case Tula ammo from cheaper than dirt for about 85$ for 250 rds after shipping. I love this old rifle. I got the snob treatment at the range from this guy with a PlainField. His rifle wasnt any more accurate than the Universal and his rifle wouldnt cycle anything but the brass rounds. So far the universal has cycled anything I tried.
    Anyways he was talking trash about the Universal being a jamomatic and blowing up in my face. fact is the Gen 1 is 99% USGI. I replaced the aluminum trigger group with USGI. So the only left that isnt USGI is the barrel.

  12. Well, its mid-2016. Here’s the response I got from them earlier this year:

    Currently this item is not yet in full production as other projects are

    in process ahead of it. We do have you on our interest list and will let you

    know when they become available. Expect to have it sometime this year.

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