President Meeting, Listening to Top Cops on Gun Control

Barack Obama, Joe Biden

President Obama is, as we write, meeting with police chiefs from around the country. Notable among them are, naturally, chiefs from Newtown, Aurora and Oak Creek, WI. According to usatoday.com, “The meeting will also include representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association.” In brief remarks before the non-televised meeting, the President said that he and VP Biden had been on a “listening session” for the past few months on the subject of gun violence and that no group was more important to include in those conversations than the chiefs . . .

He also made a point of saying that the top cops he’d be chatting with were a “representative group” from around the country — which, if true, may explain why the session isn’t being televised. Anywhere. And as if to tamp down expectations, the President made a point of saying that in order to get everything done that he’d like to restrict Americans’ right to keep and bear arms, he “needs the cooperation of Congress.” Watch this space.

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  1. avatar pk in AZ says:

    Hope everyone who voted to keep the occupier in the WH is very happy.

  2. avatar William says:

    Naturally, WHICH cops is a state secret. He’s not just any tyrant, he’s an ERSTWHILE tyrant.

  3. avatar KnowWhatIamTalkingAbout says:

    I don’t expect this, but I hope there are the 127 and counting Sheriff’s who said they would not enforce the federal gun control regs he wants to pass.

    It will probably be something like the meeting with Biden and the groups, i.e. you have 5 minutes to say your peace and then we are going to push forward with what we want anyway.

    It is a fricken joke.

  4. avatar Matt in FL says:

    To be a fly on that wall…

    1. avatar Bryan says:

      You’d be one pissed off fly!

  5. avatar Mike S says:

    Here’s hoping for total GOP intractability. I would really love to see him take a big loss on this one.

  6. avatar TTACer says:

    “The meeting will also include representatives from the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the Major County Sheriffs Association.”

    Flyover country-except for Chicago-need not apply.

  7. avatar stateisevil says:

    I’m so sick of these people. I want to bludgeon the gun control movement to death with a crowbar.

    Maybe he’ll ask the Newtown boss why it took 20 minutes for his thug scrum to get on the scene?

  8. avatar In Memphis says:

    All this behind closed doors stuff, attacking the constitution? I’m thinking charges for conspiracy to commit terrorism are apropriate

  9. avatar stateisevil says:

    Maybe he’ll ask the Newtown boss why it took his thug scrum 20 minutes to get to the scene?

  10. avatar Totenglocke says:

    Jeez, I wonder what a bunch of anti-citizen’s rights police chief’s will tell him to do….

  11. avatar In Memphis says:

    Okay, my comment posted but didn’t?

    I’m thinking charge Obama with conspiracy to commit terrorism. He’s attacking the constitution and since he’s doing it behind closed doors, who knows what could be said?

  12. avatar MDC says:

    Major city Police Chiefs,nuff said.Their in their own world,not rest of America.

  13. avatar Roll says:

    “representative group” as in “they represent your political agenda” Obama

    I once told my friend that “Great minds think alike”; he replied to me sarcastically that “So do dumb ones”

    Who in here thinks Obama’s got a bunch of Dummies/yes-men in that representative group?

  14. avatar Accur81 says:

    I do sincerely hope he is meeting with Top Cops and Sheriffs from Arizona and Texas. The other reservation I have is that most police chiefs are politicians in uniform, and know precisely jack squat about patrolling the streets. Still, I imagine there will be a few in this meeting who can tell these politicians exactly how misguided their efforts are. Any chief who can eloquently state that “Gun Free” school zones are a security nightmare will forever have my support.

  15. avatar Frank Williams says:

    Anyone want to bet that the deck has been stacked on the anti-gun side for this meeting just like it was with Biden’s “task force”? When (If?) they release the names of the participants, don’t be surprised at all to find out all the police chiefs invited to participate are from cities with vocal anti-gun mayors and strict gun-control laws in place (or proposed). And you can all but be guaranteed the representatives from the Major County Sheriffs Association won’t be any of those sheriffs who have publicly stated they won’t support any federal mandates that go against the 2nd Amendment .

  16. avatar Thomas Paine says:

    “no group was more important to include in those conversations than the chiefs . . ”

    no group is more important than the citizens, actually.

  17. avatar Cameron S. says:

    I’m sure he hand-selected anti gun police chiefs that agree with him so he can say he talked to police people and they all agreed with him. I’m sure Chicago, San Francisco, NYC, DC, etc. are all there as well.

    This is political maneuvering. Not an actual “listening session”

  18. avatar SCOTT SHAW says:

    Nothing like surrounding yourself with a group of people who see the issue the same way and expect a consensus……..

    1. avatar elnonio says:

      Like on this board?

  19. avatar Aharon says:

    The subject of gun violence is but a portion of the larger subject of overall violence which Obummer is not addressing unless it supports his various political agendas.

  20. avatar Elliotte says:

    What about the police chiefs of Virginia Tech & Northern Illinois? Maybe they should call in the top cop for the area where the Oregon mall shooting took place?

  21. avatar IdahoPete says:

    I will bet Obama WON’T meet with Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr., who “… set off alarm bells Friday with a radio spot some view as a call for citizens to arm themselves.

    In the radio ad, Clarke tells residents personal safety isn’t a spectator sport anymore, and that “I need you in the game.”

    “With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option,” Clarke intones.

    “You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back.”

    Clarke urges listeners to take a firearm safety course and handle a firearm “so you can defend yourself until we get there.”

    “You have a duty to protect yourself and your family. We’re partners now. Can I count on you?”

    That’s the kind of common sense crime fighting advice we need, and I bet that Obama will put the sheriff on the TSA watch list. Hey, the Bamster has to make sure that Sheriff Clarke can’t testify in any hearings on gun control!

  22. avatar James1000 says:

    Surely, he cannot believe that Congress will pass any of his proposals? If so, I have been giving him too much credit.

  23. avatar John F says:

    We the GOVERNMENT are chipping away at the US Constitution.
    We the PEOPLE are loosing out Freedom nibble by nibble.
    2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th Ammendments.
    Soon we will be living like Australia, England & the rest of the Not so FREE World
    BUT I AM PREACHING TO THE “CHIOR”

    1. avatar john says:

      What’s wrong with Australia. England and other countries.
      Do you think you have more freedom than they? Not so, probably less as you are more depented on the plastic in your wallet. Guns have nothing to do woth freedom and defence agains tyranny nowdays.It’s more an issue of self defence, which it seems Americans luck more than citizens of other countries. In any case, to make myself clear I live in a European country were guns in civilians hands are illegal (except from long 3-cell shotguns) and I wish I coulbe able to have one or two, just in case. BUT I also think that this gun issue in America is more advertisement of certain type of guns than a real freedom issue (AR-15 manufacturers will be happy with such publicity). You can do the job with a lot of other not so demonized guns and you could serve better your interests by not generalizing the issue. See, at the end most of the guns will stay legal, perhaps with a tougher background check, but prices will increase especially when the government decides that a, say, 50% tax on the high-cap mags doe the job better than a ban (who would resist the money at the end).

    2. avatar Anonymous says:

      > We the PEOPLE are loosing out Freedom nibble by nibble.
      > 2nd, 4th, 8th, 10th Ammendments.

      Don’t forget the conservative and libertarian war against the 7th Amendment.

    3. avatar IdahoPete says:

      I believe that the only amendment in the Bill of Rights that the government has NOT violated is the 3rd. As far as I know, they have not yet quartered troops in private houses during a time of peace. So far. I probably shouldn’t mention this, because the DHS web site monitors are going to be upset that they missed one. Brace yourselves for an EO “Requiring the quartering of gummint personnel in private homes that don’t belong to the wealthy and influential. For the children!”

  24. avatar Dale says:

    Why do I suspect that Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. wasn’t invited?

  25. avatar Carrymagnum says:

    I hope it’s not one of those situations where they use 10 chiefs as advisors and 9 of them are from towns where events like these happened. It would be just like them though.

  26. avatar Soccerchainsaw says:

    “…the President said that he and VP Biden had been on a “listening session” for the past few months on the subject of gun violence and that no group was more important to include in those conversations than the chiefs.”

    Especially when you hand pick only the ones that reinforce your plan. I’ll believe he got a true cross section when the Pro-2A chiefs say they were there. The next question will be, did they give you a chance to speak your piece and did they listen?

  27. avatar Silver says:

    Meeting with government enforcers on how best to oppress citizens. Yeah, this should be good.

    Ten bucks says none of the FOAD sheriffs are on that list.

    1. avatar Rambeast says:

      Sherriffs are not controlled by the feds. Essentially, in their jurisdiction, they are the law of the land.

  28. avatar ensitu says:

    Top Progressive Cops

  29. avatar Cameron S. says:

    “representative group” = Aurora, Newtown, Oak Creek, NYC, Chicago, DC, Boston, San Fran, etc.

    I think it’s a likely a rigged, one-sided meeting. Hence the lack of televised coverage.

  30. avatar jwm says:

    Dog and Pony show. The grabber in chief wants to take them. Period.

    1. avatar ensitu says:

      Top Progressive Cops

  31. avatar MikeP says:

    Running out of folks who might enforce this stuff … VA is jumping on the nullification bandwagon

    http://hamptonroads.com/2013/01/va-house-panel-feds-we-wont-enforce-your-gun-control

  32. avatar NickS says:

    I imagine it going down along the lines of:
    /waves Jedi Hand
    “For 1 million dollars in grant money you leave here anti-2A”.

    1. avatar Totenglocke says:

      For free they went there anti-Second Amendment.

  33. avatar BlinkyPete says:

    So, this means whatever gun control the Prez pushes will apply to cops too, right?

  34. avatar Frank Williams says:

    You can bet the deck will be stacked in favor of the antis just like Biden’s “task force” was. When (If?) they finally release the names of the participants don’t be surprised to find out the police chiefs in attendance were all from cities with rabidly anti-2A mayors. And I doubt the representatives from the Major County Sheriffs Association will be any of those who have gone on record stating they will not enforce any federal mandate that contradicts the Second Amendment.

  35. avatar OkieRim says:

    This is crap-o-la……enough, be a man and concede that the AWB wont pass, and he will work with congress on the EO/EA’s for funding and all that crap.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/democrats-revive-bill-to-strip-sheriffs-of-power/

  36. avatar Accur81 says:

    The comments are similar to my own, which have been trapped in the spam filter or in cyber purgatory.

  37. avatar James1000 says:

    I can hear it now, “Is there something WE have that YOU want that will make YOU walk outta here hating the second amendment???”

  38. avatar In Memphis says:

    Did I miss the part of Schoolhouse Rock where the bill said local law enforcement will enforce him if he doesn’t pass?

  39. avatar Lance says:

    Most Top BIG city Cops are imbeciles that are more of a mouth piece for the Mayors so this is really nothing more than more bullcrap from the gun ban groups. Overall I doubt Obama will talk to many US Sheriffs who say they wont enforce Obama’s BIG gun bans just scumbags from Fascist city’s who would.

  40. avatar AlphaGeek says:

    The outcome of any meeting with mid-to-large city police chiefs is 100% predictable. I would much rather see them meeting with sheriffs from a range of demographically diverse counties.

  41. avatar Gene says:

    Superb job in picking the liberally inclined Sheriffs from metro areas. It’d be horrible to get input from Sheriffs in those rural bitter Bible clutching gun counties. At last count, there were about 172 that I’m aware of that said “Mr. President… No”. Were any of them involved?

  42. avatar Bill F says:

    I wonder if Utah sherriff got their invites…….

    crickets……..

  43. avatar CZJay says:

    New “talking points” in 3, 2, 1…

  44. avatar SGC says:

    Sadly, most law enforcement CEO’s (chiefs and sheriffs) are merely politicians with pretty uniforms. There are a few out there that stand up and support the citizens they serve, but they are few and far between.

  45. avatar OldLawman says:

    Most of these top LEO executives are nothing more than political whores, and fitting examples of the Peter Principle.

    I would not trust them with anything.

    Now, the Sheriffs around the country who are signing the letter advising they will refuse to enforce any unconstitutional gun control laws have the correct amount of intestinal fortitude.

    The Administration will trot out the usual suspects from the IACP, etc., who are dependent on federal grants to fund their projects.

  46. avatar Ropingdown says:

    The President and VP Biden are currently in a Sound Bite Collection session. We don’t need O’s filtering. We’ve already heard from Sheriffs all over the nation advising law-abiding people to get a gun and training. Big city CofP types are like recently retired registered-Dem generals. What they say simple isn’t credible. They’re talking-for-brownie-points, a new reality show just as fake as the others.

  47. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

    i’m sure the police chief from chicago was there beaming with pride on how gun control does work…LOL

  48. avatar mongo says:

    listening to top cops on gun control…..hmm probably top cops from chicago…..

  49. avatar pat says:

    Listening tour?

  50. avatar Joseph B Campbell says:

    The police chiefs of America are nothing less than brown nosers, The yes men of every politician seeking support.

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