Savage/Stevens: Shotguns Are The New ARs

No AR? No problem, according to Savage/Stevens. Both of these Model 320 ‘Security’ shotguns are in stock, and both of them can be yours for the princely MSRP of $540. That’s right, the MSRP is only $270 each. Actual street price is about $250.

Cheap pumps have a lot to recommend them when it comes to home defense. 00 buckshot is stunningly effective (as in “what just happened to that watermelon?”), it’s still in stock everywhere, and its price hasn’t gone up much during this Obama Panic.

And speaking of the Obama Panic, pump shotguns have such a long history as sporting and hunting arms (not that that has anything to do with the 2nd Amendment) that they’re likely to be among the last things banned if it comes to that. And let’s hope it doesn’t.

20 Responses to Savage/Stevens: Shotguns Are The New ARs

  1. avatarsupton says:

    Mary of $270? Seems rather cheap–what gives?

  2. avatarAlphaGeek says:

    Both of them imported from ATA in Turkey. Those ATA factories are going to be working overtime supplying tactical 12ga and 20ga shotguns to Stevens, Weatherby, and a bunch of others.

    • avatarFug says:

      I immediately recognized that as CZ’s new 612 “Horde Control” Pump. Are these shotguns made in Turkey any good? I’ve heard tales of shoddy workmanship, but that was in regard to fancy sporting shotguns. What could they possibly mess up on a pump shotgun?

      I know that Winchester’s Turkish pumps have chrome lined barrels, I thought that was odd. How about these?

      • avatarjwm says:

        My stepson has a Hatsan 12 ga. pump made in turkey. Rack the slide, take off the safety and it goes boom. Pretty much what i want in a pump shotgun.

      • avatarWilliam says:

        No kidding. Why would one want a chrome-lined barrel on a 12-gauge?

        • avatarjwm says:

          Why not? It doesn’t increase the cost any and it makes the barrel’s more resistent to crud.

        • avatarAharon says:

          Much of the Winchester’s barrel design is a product of Browning their sister firm. The pumps are made in Turkey to Winchester’s design and specs.

      • avatarAlphaGeek says:

        I bought two ATA-sourced Weatherby 20ga semi-autos this past fall. They’ve been great.

        Only complaint is that the recoil springs are too stiff to allow reliable functioning with lower-powered shells. 1oz birdshot shells (and anything heavier) work great. Hoping this will get better as the springs break in.

    • avatarJeffK says:

      The American Rifleman review states both the Stevens 320 and 350 are imported from China, not Turkey.

  3. avatarWmc says:

    These actions are identical to my old Sears and Roebuck. Not a Ted Williams, a real Sears.

    • avatarAlphaGeek says:

      That’s because ATA makes their guns based on older but reliable designs no longer covered by patents.

      • avatarWmc85 says:

        You are correct on reliability. My old sears isn’t as pretty but I’d put it against my wingmaster ad far ad going boom.

  4. avatarAsian Matt says:

    The ATF just tried to make a new “rule” last year banning certain shotguns.

  5. avatarAharon says:

    Here is a link to the 320 pumps with four versions visually shown and several versions to choose from.
    http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/finder/

    I’ve been looking at the Winchester pump SXP camp/field combo that comes with an 18″ and a 26″ barrel. Street price is $400. It is a very fast cycling pump, has a rotating bolt to help reduce some kick, and with the larger diameter bore designed by Browning.

    Anyone know how Savage’s quality compares to Winchester for pumps?

  6. avatarPhilthegardner says:

    Got the Stevens. Bought it 2 years ago at the lgs for $235. It is clearly marked “Made in China”. It had a break-in period of about 70 rounds before everything started working perfect. But never had a problem with it and it’s a perfect trunk gun. You won’t mind it getting bumped around a bit at that price.

  7. avatarA Brit in MI says:

    Once the grabbers have had their way with semi-auto firearms, bolt actions rifles & pump guns (including shotguns) will be next. We may be fortunate to be allowed break action shotguns and bolt/lever action rifles if a genuine need is proven. Just like in the UK…….

  8. avatarTSgt B says:

    I would advise all to go with a Mossberg 500/590. Made in America, VERY good track record, tough as nails, and although very slightly more expensive, the U. S. Armed Forces didn’t choose them for nothing. Wouldn’t trade my for gold bullion.

  9. avatarUncle Lar says:

    Listen to the Brit, he knows whereof he speaks.
    If they ram an EBR ban and confiscation down our throats the next mass shooting will be with an “evil” pump action shotgun with buckshot, the deadliest close range personal firearm ever conceived. Or there’ll be another DC style sniper scare and those “evil” sniper grade bolt actions will be the target.
    Bottom line is the goal is total disarmament similar to what’s in the UK now. Where, by the way, the incidence of violent crime is five times what it is here in the United States. See, it’s just so much more convenient for the bad guys when the population are all helpless victims waiting to be harvested.

  10. avatarLarry says:

    Of course, total disarmament of the subjects is the final objective.

    One of the proposals that occasionally surfaces along this road is to ban any firearm 50 caliber or larger.

    Unfortuntately this includes most shotguns.

  11. avatarJosh says:

    I have one these. When I first got it, it had a ton of machine oil goop that needed to be cleaned out. Manual says not to dissemble or you’ll void the warranty but you may find you need to, to clean the goop out. However, I didn’t break it down either. Cleaned it out best I could with some patches, left the barrel off and turned it upside down so it would drain. As far as breaking in, yes about 70-100 shells ran through should do it. Cleaned it out again after that initial break in and noticed the pump was rubbing a little bit on the tube and yes at first the pump needed to be racked with some force but not an issue now. I love it for the price I paid $200. It’s light weight, easy to shoot and so far has ran flawlessly even with a variety of loads from everything to bird, rubber buckshot, 1oz slugs and even some low recoil slugs. The ONLY downside is that I would have never purchased the gun had I known it was made in P.R.C. I just assumed since it had the Savage name that it was an American firearm but even with that it seems to be of reasonable quality and craftsmanship.

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