Bud’s Gun Shop: Yes, We Have No Black Rifles

Hell has officially frozen over. Bud’s Gun Shop, they of the endless inventory, competitive prices and leisurely shipping, have exactly zero ‘Modern Sporting Rifles’ listed in stock, and almost no defense-capable autoloaders of any kind. I doubt anyone is surprised by this, but I scrolled through their inventory from 94 different rifle manufacturers and importers just to see for myself . . .

No ARs. No AKs. No HKs. No FNs, except a .308 caliber FNAR. Nothing else but a .308 Remington 750 hunting autoloader, and a MasterPiece Arms 9mm carbine.And by the time you read this, they’ll probably all be gone.

Since the semis were finis, I expanded searched to include handy lever-actions and pump-actions. I found nothing but a couple carbine-length .30-30s from Marlin, a Henry Big Boy in .45 Colt, and a .30-06 Remington 7600 pump. I’d choose one of the short .30-30s myself, but none of these are exactly first-string defensive rifles.

There’s better news from the world of shotguns, where 18″ or 20″ barreled pump shotguns are still plentiful and insanely cheap. Defensive autoloaders are nowhere to be found, except for some off-brand imports whose quality and reliability you’ll have to prove for yourselves.

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  1. avatar Joe says:

    I’ve actually sold some of my AR’s locally for a good price with the presumption that an AWB bill won’t pass and prices will drop back in 6 months…. Life is a gamble…

    1. avatar daveR says:

      You’re smart.

      Even if it does pass, the wording will try to prohibit transfers too. So liquidating now is probably the best.

  2. avatar ready,fire,aim says:

    boy if you want to get rid of something fast just have the government tell you you can’t have it…

    1. avatar 6 gunner says:

      Or suggest that you may not be able to have it at some point in the near, yet undetermined future.

    2. avatar BLAMMO says:

      Millions of heretofore, non-gun owners:

      I have the right to have a gun but I don’t need a gun. When the Government tells me I can’t have a gun, that’s when I’ll need a gun.

      I don’t think the panic buying is being driven by existing, experienced gun owners. Most of us have been through things like this before and a more rational perspective. Now, first time / non-gun owners are trying to get their hands on anything they can.

  3. avatar Don says:

    Why wouldn’t they hold back some of their inventory to sell at outrageous prices as it gets closer to the legislation negotiation in congress?

    Oh…

    1. avatar zbaer says:

      because holding back inventory is an absolutely horrible idea. Inventory is money, and the quicker you turn it over the better off you are. Companies can’t afford to just hoard inventory.

      And anyways, productions still full steam ahead for now, so they’ll restock a few times before anything happens.

  4. avatar David says:

    The situation for mags & ammo is not any better.

  5. avatar Mr Pierogie says:

    Guess who bought the vast majority of what was in stock? People who already had ARs and wanted to get additional ones, either for themselves or to resell later at a higher markup (check Gunbroker, prices are very high). What Bud’s and other outlets should have done in response to extremely high demand was to raise prices. That way, people who have ARs would be discouraged from buying additional ones, and only those who don’t own any would be willing to pay more to get one. Also, there would be no reselling them at auction sites later because the original price would already be high. That means there would be ample inventory left for those who really wanted an AR.

    This is simply supply and demand, nothing more. I know those who don’t understand it will argue with me, but there’s nothing complicated at work here. Supply is extremely low, demand is sky high, it’s only natural for prices to go up. And as I’ve said, prices should have gone up sooner, for the reasons I spelled out above.

    1. avatar Brian says:

      skdtac.com is selling “asshole proof PMAGs”. They increased the price to keep up with market prices, but are donating the difference between the market price and list price to either the National Rifle Association or the Special Operations Warrior Foundation. Neat idea.

      http://www.skdtac.com/Magpul-PMAG-Gen-M3-30-rnd-AR-M4-p/mag.502.htm

      1. avatar Mr Pierogie says:

        That’s interesting, assuming that that’s where you want your money to go.

        Their “asshole” remark is an obvious reference to CTD, which I don’t agree with. CTD responded to high demand immediately, so prices went up. When demand falls, prices will drop, most likely to the original level. No need to call somebody an asshole because the market dictates a higher price. Is everyone at Gunbroker an asshole? Stripped AR lowers are going for $300, $400 or even $500 (often auctions start at $1 with no reserve), because that’s what people are willing to pay. Again, once demand falls and supply increases, prices will drop as well.

        1. avatar WLCE says:

          LMT upper receivers have been sold on there for 1500$.

          gunbroker is prison rape central right now.

        2. avatar Mr Pierogie says:

          If I’m not mistaken, DiFi’s proposed legislation will ban the sale and manufacture of the evil black rifles. That sends a very strong “buy” signal to everyone who is expecting that law to pass. Not surprising that prices are surging. If people want to pay $1,500 for an upper, hey, then that’s what the price is to buy now, before it’s (potentially) too late. If, however, no new bans are imposed, then prices will go down fairly quickly. Markets will adjust.

      2. avatar int19h says:

        Speaking of mags, Mako still has plenty of their steel 20/30/40-rounders in stock, shipping them promptly, no limit on order size, and they’re not price gouging:

        http://www.themakogroup.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EARM30+W

  6. avatar Mauser says:

    They probably still have a few of those revolvers that fire the entire cartridge out of the barrel like the one in the linked image.

    1. avatar John Fritz says:

      They probably still have a few of those revolvers that fire the entire cartridge out of the barrel without pulling the trigger like the one in the linked image.”

      Updated.

      1. avatar Rob says:

        That’s it. We need a ban on magic guns.

        1. avatar joe says:

          It’s not magic, the trigger pull is .00005lbs… and the bullet is actually fired from a rail system (hence no fire from the chamber opening) using electromagnetic pulses combined with pyrotechnics to scare the perp…. it’s actually quite advanced and I’m glad Bud’s are selling it before the UN bans it.

        2. avatar Rob says:

          Reminded me of the scene in Terminator.

          “Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range”

          “Hey, just what you see pal.”

      2. avatar Mauser says:

        It could be Jerry Miculek holding that gun. He did pull the trigger but its already reset ready for the next shot.

        1. avatar Chris Dumm says:

          I was waiting for someone to notice that awful Photochopped title picture. Bud’s actually paid someone to make that. Someone who knows nothing about firearms.

  7. avatar Saul Feldstein says:

    Yet another promotion piece for Buds gunshop. Anybody who considers rolling the dice dealing with the Buds gang should take a few minutes to google them, and particularly check them out on Complaintsboard.com. Having been on the receiving end of the “Buds treatment” being harassed threatened and having my credit card compromised after daring to question the quality of the goods they sent and their customer relations “skills” you might do your diligence with this outfit.

    Caveat emptor.

    1. avatar Aharon says:

      Sorry to read about the bad service you experienced. I’ll keep it in mind.

    2. avatar Anon in CT says:

      Long before sandy Hook Bud’s refused to ship state-compliant rifles and pistols to CT. Plus their search function is a mess.
      So they’ve been useless to me except as a place to compare prices.

    3. avatar Jay Dunn says:

      There’s always some sob like me who says something like, ” I’ve bought six guns from Bud’s in the last three years with no problems at all” isn’t there?

      Even so, you might try KyGunCo.com in Bardstown, Ky.–prices on most things seem as good as or better than Bud’s.

  8. avatar Narcoossee says:

    As of 10:25 EST, Bud’s is auctioning, among other things, a “Ruger SR556FB 5.56 16″ Flip Up Sights 3 Mags” … current bid with 11 h 45m to go is $1,950, so they’ve got inventory…apparently.

    1. avatar Rob says:

      I noticed that the auction inventory was very strong (and high priced), I just wasn’t sure of the auctions were running from Bud’s or through Bud’s from private sellers.

  9. avatar WLCE says:

    let the ass raping begin.

    You should check out the SCAR 17. a previously 2700-3000 dollar rifle is going to the 4k range…with NO spare mags!

    1. avatar Adam says:

      Yes pretty much any rifle that was/is popular has pretty much almost doubled or doubled in price (or more) from MSRP.

      1. avatar Hal says:

        I was toying with the idea of picking up a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in .40 S&W…it would make a nice companion piece for the Glock 22 I recently purchased. They’re going for close to $1000 (!) on Gunbroker right now.

        1. avatar rybred says:

          lol, i’m sooooo glad i got what i did, when i did.
          i definitely wouldn’t want an AWB to pass, it would kill so much of the momentum that we had, it seemed like the public at large was really understanding the reality of life, only to get whipped up by the media into full-on ANTI mode..

        2. avatar int19h says:

          I’ve snagged one for $700, and consider myself lucky, looking at all the other bids.

      2. avatar WLCE says:

        I think there is a valuable lesson to be learned here: buy while times are good.

        it is a decision I have never regretted.

        1. avatar rybred says:

          amen

    2. avatar matt says:

      Thats nothing, I saw a RFB 18″ which has a MSRP of $1880, and was selling in the summer for around $1600, get bid up to $4000

  10. avatar IdahoPete says:

    Went to the Boise Cabelas store last Friday. You could not get to the gun counter – people were standing four-deep in front of it, and about half of them were women. Lots of younger folks – somehow I don’t think the majority of them already had an AR and were buying more to re-sell.

    “A fair and just government has nothing to fear from an armed citizenry.” – Thomas Jefferson

    1. avatar Jeff O. says:

      I was at the same Cabela’s on Thursday picking up some fishing gear, and it was just as crazy.

      I’d also been toying with buying a 4.5″ 9mm XD(m) for awhile, and on Thursday at least, they still had it, I just didn’t want it bad enough to wait 3 hours to get helped.

    2. avatar Aharon says:

      “A fair and just government has nothing to fear from an armed citizenry.” – Thomas Jefferson

      That is so true.

  11. avatar Hal says:

    Shrug. Supply and demand. That’s how capitalism works.

  12. avatar Aharon says:

    I will consider selling you my Browning Buckmark Camper pistol .22LR for $1,500 and I’ll even include free shipping since I’m such a great guy.

  13. avatar James says:

    People need to relax…they will be back on shelves before long. Obama is definitely good for gun business. Oxymoron by letter definition for sure.

    1. avatar Mr Pierogie says:

      I stopped by a few stores in NJ and PA. Managers of those stores were told by suppliers to check back in February. No ARs or AKs to be found locally at all.

  14. avatar rsu11 says:

    Just saw a news report that Xmas retail sales were a disappointment. My LGS also made the news last week with sales of a cool million in a single day. We know where the Christmas cash went, now don’t we?

  15. avatar Mark Horning says:

    Bud’s can’t hold back inventory because they don’t actually HAVE inventory. Buds is a middleman operation. This is how they keep their prices low, by having their distributors drop ship everything.

    1. avatar Charlie says:

      That’s right! I bought an AR-10BNMF from them and got it the next day, courtesy of Gun South!

      Charlie

  16. avatar Charlie says:

    Last night they had two Armalite AR-10s in stock (I think both were carbines). They also had the Sig P239 and the Remington 700 SPS Tactical (.308) that I’ve been coveting, but both were up by about $50.00. But the Remington 700 XCR Tactical (.308) that I’m also coveting (SPS or XCR, not both) was out of stock.

    I’m about 180 degrees out of phase with the rest of the gun community. They’re looking for ARs, and I’m looking for bolt guns. lol

    Charlie

  17. avatar Rich says:

    Gotta love Obama. The only business and industry he has stimulated is firearms and ammo. Didn’t even need any government intervention so far. Just a dubious background, Communist friends, an illegal gun running fubar into a foriegn country, oppressive regulations in every area of individuals life, and a CEO of Snafu’s and mental midget of a Vice President now in charge of banning guns

  18. avatar damond says:

    Buds have “black guns” or assault rifles and other items. This is evident because they are posted on their auction site Gunbidder.com where they are going for double the retail prices. Why put inventory on regular retail site when they can gouge consumers on an auction site? They have inventory, they’re just releasing one or two at a time to get most profit for each.

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