Chicago Cops Roust New Media Mavens at Gunpoint

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We don’t actually see the Windy City po-po pointing their pistols at the jobbing journos. But it sure as hell sounds like they did. And although 911 conspiracy theorist Luke Rudkowski has an obvious axe to grind, his second hand testimony—“I overhead the officer saying ‘don’t shoot it’s just a cellphone'”—has the ring of truth. The main question: on what basis did the police roust these citizens in the first place? Even a Terry stop requires some kind of reasonable suspicion of a criminal act. The cops’ explanation: they were looking for a car that matched the live streamers’ vehicle. Do we believe that?

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  1. avatar Ralph says:

    “The police are not here to create disorder, they’re here to preserve disorder.”

    Richard J. Daley at the 1968 Democratic Convention

    Same shit, different day.

    1. avatar bontai Joe says:

      I remember it well

  2. avatar International Jeff says:

    These guys were saved by the grace of god and by a recent circuit court of appeals injunction that stopped the Chicago mafia / police department from arresting people for FELONY wiretapping when recording police officers in public, while on duty, even when the police are recording themselves. A few months ago, these guys would be waiting to hear if they were going to get charged with a crime that could land them in prison for life.

    The only reason that state has that law on the books is because it wants to ensure that the police have no ability to get caught railroading people.

  3. avatar ST says:

    Let us bring some context to the discussion.

    More people die in Chicago shootouts than we tally nationally for war casualties in Afghanistan. Certain parts of that city are dead ringers for Fallujah , right down to most of the bad guys having an AK47 in the basement.Unlike the U.S. Army in Iraq, the CPD have to patrol the area with pistols.Having lived in Chicago I can say there are certain neighborhoods where you just don’t take chances.

    With that established, we don’t know objectively why these people were stopped. It wasn’t for a traffic violation:right before the video ends and the kids ask “what is this for officer” a CPD member says “unbuckle your seat belt”, which means the five-oh wanted everyone out of the vehicle. Conincidently the feed stops right when the police would have said what all the fuss was about. Additionally, the CPD patrol car is in front of the stopped vehicle-not a typical position for someone pulled over for a minor violation.

    Until I see a police report,Im witholding drawing a conclusion for or against anyone.There’s more to this story than what is being imparted by our very crooked media infrastructure.

    1. avatar NukemJim says:

      “right down to most of the bad guys having an AK47 in the basement.”

      Source please, or are you just making stuff up like the antis?

    2. avatar Dex says:

      AK47’s? well the police have their tactical entry teams, military grade weaponry and equipment donated by the military, and support from Federal law that effectively circumvents the US Constitution (thank you patriot act).

      I dont feel sorry for them. I hope they enjoy licking the bankers boots.

  4. avatar Joseph says:

    People should be free to congregate and destroy whatever they like, in the name of whatever cause is just at the moment.

  5. avatar tdiinva says:

    I am a veteran of the 1968 Democratic convention. From what I hear from my friends back home is that these “demonstrators” were a punch of pussies. They talked tough but showed little interest in confronting the Man. They even attempted to use PLO phoney injury tactics, i.e., putting on bandages and fake blood to claim police brutality. They were caught on by a local TV reporter. The people who were worthy of the tradition were the five clowns in black who attacked the alleged white supremacists at a Tinley Park restaurant. But I suspect they only put on the tough guy act because it was in Illinois where the alleged white supremacists were unarmed. I doubt they would have had the courage to pull that stunt in Loudon County Virginia where the real white supremacists would be packing heat.

    I felt let down. A real good riot would have embarrassed the President and the Mayor while the OWS and anarchist crowd would have taken a few well deserved smacks across the head.

    1. avatar matt says:

      I was sick while it was happening, but I did spend a couple days watching ustreams, it was for the most part disappointing, one cop stabbed, another hit with a hammer, and minor scuffles between the groups.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        That’s nice. You call yourself a revolutionary. You sir, are a poseur; a wannabe. I have a Russian friend whose maternal grandfather was one of Stalin’s buddies from the pre-revolutionary days in Georgia. He wouldn’t waste a drop of saliva on you .

        1. avatar James says:

          Just for the record, I’m not seeing where he is calling himself a revolutionary.

          I see a lot of chest thumping coming from your direction, though.

        2. avatar Dex says:

          tdinniva , thats sure something to be proud of LOL. and I had great uncles that fought on the German side, on the eastern front. What’s your point?

        3. avatar tdiinva says:

          James:

          You probably didn’t see some of my exchanges with Matt over this. In a previous threat I asked Matt if he was going to go down and demonstrate. He demurred because he was afraid of getting arrested for assaulting a police officer and losing his gun rights before the big event happens. So this post is sort of a inside conversation between me and Matt.

          Re Dex: see the last sentence of my comment to James.

        4. avatar matt says:

          lol! Thats really the best you can come up with, you’re riding the coat tails of someone you arent related to or even know. Wow.

          I don’t think i’ve ever called myself a revolutionary here, I think the only labels i’ve attributed to myself is anarchist and racist.

          Also re: the gun rights, I said that I was unemployed and don’t have the funds to defend myself against the charges.

          Please try harder next time.

        5. avatar tdiinva says:

          Matt:

          An Anarchist is a revolutionary.

          Unemployment is no excuse. It is a reason for you to be out there. “…if you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to represent you…”

      2. avatar tdiinva says:

        editor not working…

        should have been past tense i.e., “…wouldn’t have wasted…”

    2. avatar CGinChicago says:

      Yeah… I was real upset that my home didnt burn down… and the out of town nutjobs didnt run wild throughout the city… what a pity.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few. If a riot helps sent the One back to Hyde Park I’m all for it.

        1. avatar CGinChicago says:

          well they did not take too many lumps on the head but they did get close. A few dozen protesters went into bridgeport last tue. Turned out the only thing protecting them from those lumps were the police.

        2. avatar tdiinva says:

          You have to be a real dumb a$$ to demonstrate in Bridgeport. Obviously mental defectives or non residents.

    3. avatar Dex says:

      and it baffles me that there are a few people actually siding against OWS. Theyre the ones protesting the corrupt institutions you are too cowardly or (by lying to yourself) “too busy” to stand up to.

      Let me ask you: is being too afraid or busy getting you anywhere ?

      1. avatar nonnamous says:

        But Fox News said they were bad…

      2. avatar V.McCann says:

        OWS is the cowardly institution that needs to be stood up to.

  6. avatar GS650G says:

    Chicago – not even on a list of places I would move to, or even visit. I’m sure there are nice places and reasons to go there but I’m not interested in finding out. It’s a shame there are big cities where it’s not worth it to visit.

  7. Not to jump on the conspiracy wagon, however, if these guy’s are “journalists” then why Fox news not? Also I have to wonder what the police would have done if one of these guys were practicing their second amendment as well as the first?

  8. avatar Dex says:

    9/11 conspiracy theorist?

    try 9/11 conspiracy fact whistleblower. fixed that for you.

    1. avatar V.McCann says:

      Derp!

    2. avatar tdiinva says:

      Oh know another truther. These guys give us regular gun nuts a bad name.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        I know it’s no! Please fix the comment editor!

    3. avatar William says:

      Facts are inconvenient, it’s plain to see.

  9. avatar Barbarossa says:

    I’m surprised no one has noted the irony that this report comes from RT (“Russia Today”), the Kremlin’s English-language propaganda arm. Putin would have had these people shot before a summit like this.

    1. avatar nonnamous says:

      Want to know the truth about your country? Read other countries media. Want to know the truth about other countries? Read your native media. Less conflict of interest that way.

  10. avatar William says:

    “Conspiracy theorist” = weaponized language. You know conspiracies exist as well as anyone. You didn’t like where he pointed his? Say so. Cut the crap.

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