Nuestros Reconquistos Demands Investigation in Terry Death

I don’t normally dip my toes in the political pool here at TTAG. I’m content to torture test scopes and look for the greatest trigger that God has ever bestowed upon the world. But make no mistake, I’ve followed the F&F series here and elsewhere from the beginning. I’ve called and written my congressman as well as Issa’s office. Short of occupying something, I feel like I have been pretty involved in the issue. So when I stumbled upon this little gem from Examiner.com by way of Fark.com, I felt it might be time for me to finally clear my throat via TTAG . . .

Latino groups are going to demonstrate this weekend in Phoenix at Paradise Valley State Park. Members of civil rights group Nuestros Reconquistos believe that people have been lied to about the death of border agent Brian Terry, who was supposedly killed by Mexican drug cartel members.

“The misinformation about Brian Terry’s death is mind boggling. It was just a lie to get people all riled up about illegal immigration,” claims Nuestros Reconquistos President Manuel Longoria. “There is other information going around saying that Terry was accidentally killed by another U.S. border agent. The mainstream media is refusing to report this!”

There has been a lot of scandal surrounding Terry’s death. It was recently revealed that he was killed with weapons donated by the United States. Cecilia Maldonado, the President of Chicanos Unidos Arizona, calls the situation a tragedy. 

As they say, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” I probably don’t agree with most of the members of NR. They evidently think it was some kind of dark anti-brown people conspiracy. I believe wholeheartedly that Mexican cartel members killed Agent Terry. So no, we don’t agree with them at all. I also believe that the Examiner has made an unintentionally dark joke when they describe the weapon that killed Agent Terry as “donated” by the US.

While the cliché train is pulling into the station, I’ll leave you with another. “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

comments

  1. avatar Silver says:

    Baseless claims of racism from a group that thrives on racial disharmony and is in itself racist?

    Just on another day in progressive America.

  2. avatar sdog says:

    “The misinformation about Brian Terry’s death is mind boggling. It was just a lie to get people all riled up about illegal immigration,” claims Nuestros Reconquistos President Manuel Longoria. “There is other information going around saying that Terry was accidentally killed by another U.S. border agent. The mainstream media is refusing to report this!”

    this is COMPLETE BS. These people have plenty of problems of their own. This “anti brown” conspiracy theory is total crap. Cartel dudes kill people and dump bodies in public areas in Mexico all the time, why is agent terry getting killed so hard to believe?!

    1. avatar matt says:

      Because the US government has done this before? See the death of Pat Tillman.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Cover-up_surrounding_Tillman.27s_death

      1. avatar sdog says:

        there is a racialization aspect to this story that makes it somewhat different from the Tillman saga. Agent Terry’s public profile before his death was scant compared to Tillman, so the fallout from the death of the former was much more prolific. This is almost the definition to “pulling the race card” here.

  3. avatar Texan says:

    I personally don’t believe that another agent killed Agent Terry; however, the reaction of this group is one of those unintended consequences of sealing the case and stonewalling.

    If they are in search of the truth, I welcome them.

  4. avatar Ralph says:

    Agent Terry killed by another agent? Yeah, sure, right after he was abducted by illegal aliens from Outer Space, not the illegaler ones from Matamoros.

  5. avatar Javier says:

    As if race didn’t play. It always has an influence on every action in politics. NR needs it 15 minutes just like everybody else. The fact is that the “donated” weapon came by way of F(fubar) & F(fouled up) is true and that those incharge need to be held acountable.As for NR LOOK AT MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the Cartels aren’t killing much? NR needs to look for more tunnels.

  6. avatar Gunship Cowboy says:

    Explain to me how another Border Patrol agent could have killed Agent Terry when their weapons were loaded with BEAN BAGS! Yes, they were ordered to chamber bean bag rounds, which is why when they were surprised by the cartel rip crew, Agent Terry was killed and it took some time for them to respond. The BP is hindered not only by a government that won’t control it’s border, but by it’s own leaders who saddle them with ineffective rules of engagement. Add on top of that a fellow Federal LEO, (BATF) that allows tactical weapons to walk into the hands of your adversaries and you have the situation which resulted in the preventable death of Agent Terry.

    1. avatar sdog says:

      very good point, i doubt the neutered ammo BP agents are issued could of created this mess.

      1. avatar matt says:

        Bean bag rounds can be lethal at close range, riot cops are trained to skip them off the ground at people.

        1. avatar sdog says:

          bean bags don’t put holes in people, nor are the fired out of ak’s.

        2. avatar matt says:

          Bean bag rounds can put holes in people. I cant post this link here due to the spam filter, but if go to google books, find the book Tactical Emergency Medicine. They have a section on it on page 28.

          For an AK, several companies make rubber 30 cal bullets.

          But either way it was the OP who said they used less than lethal ammo. I cant even find online what type of gun was used in Terrys death.

  7. avatar APBTFan says:

    I read this last night (via Fark as well) and it sickened me. The moment I read the article is the exact moment I lost my last shred of sympathy for the Latino cause. Years and years of ever more ridiculous demands have eroded my once solid support for them and La Raza is among the worst.

  8. avatar GS650G says:

    Can we just stop pretending we don’t have a war on our hands and just engage the enemy properly?

    1. avatar Graybeard says:

      +1

      1. avatar Jamie in ND says:

        +2

    2. avatar Ralph says:

      Sure, and the ATF can arm them and disarm us.

    3. avatar Ordine Nuovo says:

      Expect every talking head, Democrat, and Northern Republican to do this:

      http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090711192840/uncyclopedia/images/5/5d/Thatsracist.gif

      Oh, don’t forget that the Federal government finds it immoral to protect the border. Oh and don’t forget being sued and threatened by almost every Latin American nation and every U.N. department. These are all ephemeral, but nobody outside the South has the political will.

  9. avatar Tom says:

    Coming from the Latino pro-Mexican, anti-USA groups, this is not surprising.
    I always thought that most ethnic immigrant groups in the past put the USA first ( including some Native American Indians I know ) versus wanting to be annexed by a bordering foreign country.
    Wonder what would have happened if the German and Italian descended folk had supported the Axis in WWII?

    1. avatar matt says:

      The Germans, Italians and Japensese didnt have to support the Axis powers, or even live in the US, they were simply rounded up and placed in to concentration camps.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps#Japanese-.2C_German-_and_Italian-Americans

      1. avatar Tom says:

        The Japanese Americans mostly were.
        A lot of Germans and Italians Americans deemed dangerous were. Which by numbers was greater than the Japanese.
        As a percentage, few German or Italian Americans were as they deemed the two ethinc groups vital to the war effort.
        The large German and Italian American populations made area bombing of European Axis Cities pretty much a limited possiblilty, or at least less than British efforts.

  10. avatar Roadrunner says:

    For the linguistically curious, “Nuestros Reconquistos,” if the Spanish were proper, would mean “our reconquests.” If their name reflects their agenda (which names often do), that would offer a good glimpse into what they’re trying to accomplish. Or at the very least, into their point of view.

    1. avatar matt says:

      The irony is that Reconquista generally time period of European nations reclaiming formerly Christian territory from Muslims.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista

      These people apparently are thinking they are doing the same. Some also seem to think they are in someway related to the Knights Templar.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_Cartel

      These groups seem to be anti-white, yet they speak the white mans tongue, practice the white mans religion, and integrate the white mans history in to their culture, yet identify as native americans…

      1. avatar karlb says:

        The white man’s religion?

        1. avatar matt says:

          Christianity. 80%+ of Mexicans are Catholic.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mexico#cite_note-tabulados-1

          If you want to be technical, the Caucasoid’s religion.

        2. avatar Manny says:

          You do know that Jesus was born in Jerusalem in the Kingdom of Judah, just south of the Kingdom of Israel so he was not “white” therefore Christianity is not a “white man’s religion”. You could argue that Catholicism is but that’s a stretch considering that by that point Christianity had went global.

        3. avatar matt says:

          Which is why I said ‘technically the Caucasoid’s religion.’
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#Classification

          The Mayans and Aztecs are considered to be part of the Mongoloid race.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid#Populations_included

          And no Christianity had not yet gone global by the time Catholicism came around. The first references to Catholicism came in the year 107, and the Americas weren’t discovered by Christians for well over 1000 years.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholicism#History_of_use_of_.22Catholic_Church.22

        4. avatar Manny says:

          You are right. I stand corrected. Thanks for the links, I’m learning quite a bit.

          It’s interesting to see how we classify, name and further sub-classify and label any minute difference within our own species, like we do to other less intelligent animals, possibly leading to “racism” and segregation. Maybe the one discerning the differences sees himself as above whatever he is classifying since has to be more intelligent to notice the differences. I firmly belive we’ve done this in error as I believe we are all one human “race” and are merely brought up in different cultures.

          To the topic at hand, I am concerned by the message of this group, especially if their chosen name is any indicator. If anything, Mexicans should be upset with themselves as they themselves have created the condition from which they want to escape from. I’m not surprised though, as the Mayans practically destroyed themselves. Although the great majority of latinos in the USA may be Mexican, the majority of non Mexican latinos do not consider themselves part of their culture at all. There is much racism in the latino community.

          I also despise any immigrant that wishes to change their new country into their own instead of embracing the new culture and assimilating into it. Those like that will only turn the USA into the hellhole they fled from. There’s nothing wrong with mainting ties and traditions of your homeland, but if you want to be American then you have to drop your baggage off at the door.

        5. avatar matt says:

          Different races of people have been proven over and over again thru genetics. Is it wrong or immoral to call one dog a Pit Bull and another one a Golden Retriever? If not then how is it wrong to do the same to people. And its not the human race, its the human species.

          I always thought it was the Spainards who destroyed the Mayans/Aztecs and created the Mexicans. Regarding the racism in the latino community, i think thats rather universal, look at the chinese/japanese, the Israelis/everyone else in the ME, or anywhere in europe.

          I cant reconcile your second paragraph with your last. Can you elaborate?

        6. avatar BLX says:

          Correction. If by “well over 1000 years” you are referring to that Italian dude, please know that it has been documented that Leif Ericson came to Newfoundland around 1003. He and at least some of his fellow viking travellers were by this time nominally Christian.
          See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson and http://vikingship.org for more info.

          Of interest to this forum would be that a free man was to be armed and slaves disarmed. This is clearly posted at the viking ship museum in Oslo, Norway.

          Long time reader, first time poster.

  11. avatar DaveM says:

    If DOJ could have pinned this on a BP agent they would have done it by now, then again maybe that’s what Holder will claim next week
    Their goal of reclaiming 20-25 % of USA for Mexico will only result in 20-25% more area that’s fucked up
    Ain’t gonna happen

  12. avatar Right! says:

    Prepare for the American Holocaust

  13. avatar Ian says:

    I’m sure mexico is a paradise and the illegals come here to educate us on the error of the white mans ways. too bad the government conspiracy won’t let the truth out. I’m planning on sneaking into mexico right now

    1. avatar Roadrunner says:

      Actually, Mexico is a paradise geographically speaking, and therefore has some nasty serpents in it. See the cartels. But a funny thing about the people who want to give the western U.S. back to Mexico is that they’re generally Americans of Latino descent who have precious little first hand experience of life in Mexico. Life is not easy for most people there.

  14. avatar Dam Ba says:

    I thought Manuel Longoria was appointed by AG Eric Holder to a position in the White House. What happened to that, as I know that a lot of people, including myself screamed bloody murder over that. Could it be that Holder was trying to keep Longoria quiet about the later’s continued contention that the unfortnate killing was by agent(s).

    Or, could their be a connection between the arms of ‘fast and furious’, but not a connection to recently armed Mexican drug dealers, but to a recently armed member of ‘Nuestros Reconquistos’, trying to expedite the ‘Aztlan’?

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