Quote of the Day: More Guns, Less Gun Owners Edition

“The research we’ve seen indicates fewer and fewer people are owning more and more guns” Caroline Brewer, Director of Communications, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence [via cnn.com].

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  1. avatar frankgon4 says:

    That might be to the *&$%^#( management of the economy.

  2. avatar John says:

    I saw a Unicorn once. So now does everyone believe they exist based on my “research”?

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Yes. Yes I do. But I still don’t believe the Brady wingnuts, who are incapable of telling the truth.

      1. avatar Mikeb302000 says:

        They’re just incapable of agreeing with you. You call that “lying.”

        1. avatar IdahoPete says:

          No, Mike, we call lying “lying”. This web site recently reported that 47% of US households now admit to owning a gun, up from 41% last year. Doesn’t sound like a decrease to me. Or are you going with the Eric Holder definition of “lying”?

          As racer88 says two posts down: Hmmm…“Americans who report having a gun in the home in the past year have risen from 41 percent to 47 percent, the highest ever recorded, according to Gallup.” – http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/22/firing-back-at-gun-control/

        2. avatar Mikeb302000 says:

          Pete, The question is not whether or not you can find some discrepancy on their site, it’s about whether or not the Brady folks want to eliminate all guns from civilians.

          I say they don’t.

        3. avatar Charles says:

          Mike, go away.

  3. avatar JayF says:

    The increases in gun purchases at the same time as there has been decreases in crime has been very embarrassing for anti-gunowner advocates, and their “fewer and fewer people are owning more and more guns” is their way of trying to explain it.

    However, it has also been a longstanding talking point of anti-gunowner advocates that ownership of many guns by one individual is a bad thing, requiring some sort of limit. But now, according to their own propaganda, there has been an big increase in the number of guns owned by many gunowners — at the same time as there has been decreases in crime!

    So I await their “common sense” response of abandoning any suggestions of limiting the ownership of many guns by one individual.

  4. avatar racer88 says:

    Hmmm…

    “Americans who report having a gun in the home in the past year have risen from 41 percent to 47 percent, the highest ever recorded, according to Gallup.”http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/22/firing-back-at-gun-control/

    Does Gallup have a political agenda? Does Brady?

    1. avatar Tom says:

      Agree. The data posted contradicts the Brady Bunch claim. This statement is to convey that fewer gun owners are stockpiling more guns and that they are some sort of militant types that need more regulation.

    2. avatar Ralph says:

      Actually, Gallop does have a political agenda. If it’s claiming that 47% of homes have guns in them, the true number is probably higher. But compared to Zogby, Gallop looks good.

  5. avatar Ralph says:

    In every jurisdiction that adopts a “shall issue” law, permit applications go through the roof. Now, I could be wrong, but I don’t think that fewer and fewer people are applying for more and more permits.

    I have to confess that I do think that Ms. Brewer is a jackass.

  6. avatar Totenglocke says:

    If someone rounded up some prominent members of the Brady campaign and dished out some good old fashioned mafia-style education with a baseball bat, then they can spend 30 years whining about the Brady Campaign Against Blunt Object Violence instead and leave us alone.

    1. avatar Pro.0s says:

      Brady Campaign:
      To Prevent Baseball Bat Violence
      Sensible baseball bat laws save lives

  7. avatar Rick says:

    How about Ms Brewer showing that research data that supports her claim? I won’t be holding my breath.

  8. avatar RKflorida says:

    Years ago I owned quite a few guns. Then for 20 years or so, I owned none. As of last month only 1 member of our family of 10 households had guns. He has about 5 guns. Now a month later 6 members of our family of 10 households own guns and are looking to purchase additional guns. 4 members are applying for CCP. I purchased a home defense revolver, and will get a 12ga next month along with a M&P 9C for my wife to carry. Two neighbors in the last 3 months became gun owners and we pool our ammunition needs for shipping savings.

    That’s the story of one family and 1 little block of the city. I know it’s a small sample but I think it is a meaningful trend when I consider all the anecdotal evidence I receive from other folks I know. CCW applications are way up and many of those will require a weapon. Class attendance is up for CC permit requirements locally. My nephew works warrants and they are more than doubled in the last 6 months.

    My take on this story is that it is B.S. Of course considering the source, I knew it would be. Anybody else have similar stories about their friends, neighbors and families?

  9. avatar Aharon says:

    ‘The research we’ve seen indicates fewer and fewer people are owning more and more guns’

    “It doesn’t matter how many people are voting and for which candidate or party. What matters are the people chosen who are counting the votes.”
    Joseph Stalin (paraphrased)

    Isn’t there an expression; ‘there are lies, damn lies, and statistics’?

    So much for the credibility of an agenda driven political organization and the mass media.

    1. avatar Pascal says:

      > Isn’t there an expression; ‘there are lies, damn lies, and statistics’?

      Yes, from the Wiki link
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

      “The term was popularised in the United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the 19th-century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881): “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

      “Mark Twain popularized the saying in “Chapters from My Autobiography”, published in the North American Review in 1906. “Figures often beguile me,” he wrote, “particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: ‘There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.'”

      As Twain was a citizen of my home state and a gun owner, I would like to add two additional qoutes

      “Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”
      – Mark Twain, a Biography

      “All Congresses and Parliaments have a kindly feeling for idiots, and a compassion for them, on account of personal experience and heredity.”
      – Mark Twain’s Eruption

      1. avatar Tom says:

        I am lovin it!
        “Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”

  10. avatar Pascal says:

    Once again, since they are unable to fight with facts, they fight with emotion. FUD in that if someone has too many guns he is trying to start an army — arguments like “who needs that many guns” — I suspect the noise lately is meant to go into 2012 and the presidential election and stir up the pot for the base so that they will donate to the Dems in general and Obama specifically.

  11. avatar Matt in AZ says:

    What? I think James Brady could have mimed a more rational argument. Yes that was boorish and in poor taste and I damn near apologize.

  12. avatar Silver says:

    That’s the problem with Brady Bunch “research”…you need a frontal lobotomy in order to see it.

  13. avatar Drew says:

    I do agree though that most folks I know who own guns tend to own more than 1. Even my friends who own guns but don’t shoot them tend to own both a .22 and either a 12 gauge or a deer rifle, usually inherited from Grampa or Pops. I broke 100 this year though, so I’m probably the guy they’re talking about…

    1. avatar garynyer says:

      100? How do you feed 100 firearms

      1. avatar Totenglocke says:

        One at a time, same as everyone else! =)

    2. avatar Tom says:

      I envy you!

    3. avatar Ralph says:

      I broke 100 too. On the front nine.

  14. avatar Mikeb302000 says:

    I find it hard to believe the number of gun owners is going down. I would imagine the number is going up but what’s going up even faster is the total number of guns because the average gun owner owns more than he used to.

    1. avatar Greg in Allston says:

      How cool is that? This tide won’t be turned back, to the great consternation of some.

      I’m actually a little surprised that you’d recognize this phenomenon for what it truly appears to be, instead of trying to spin it off somewhere into left field.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        Wow. mikey’s a concern troll now.

  15. avatar Tarrou says:

    Was the “research they’ve seen” done by Michael Bellisiles, by any chance? Or did someone else fabricate it? My guess? There is no research.

  16. avatar RuffRidr says:

    Which research Caroline? Be specific so that we may all check your work.

  17. avatar Scott says:

    Just sounds like another attempt to tap into the “99 percenter” garbage.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      Their percentage is higher than their IQ.

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